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one faith, common history, living together on the same piece of land, happiness is when you are understood, great happiness is when you are loved, real happiness is when both love. hello, the program "say don't be silent" is on the air. in the studio are victoria popova and tatyana shchyurbina. and today our guest is composer and poet valery golovko. good afternoon, valery. hello, exactly a year ago we saw each other in this studio. the interview went very well, i think, on a popular video hosting site, more than 100 thousand views. i watched it yesterday 109 was. but no less impressive comments are left. your fans,
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valera, and maybe neophytes who first learned about you, thanks to our interview, so after looking at these simply not comments, we decided to make the format of today's interview in a retro style, you wrote to us, or at the request of tv viewers, if you have no objections, let's read, yes please, well, here is one of the first comments, i would like to hear valerie's thoughts on the relationship between women and men, what will happen to the institution of the family, that all of us awaits in the distant near future? it seems to me that these are serious questions, these are really very serious questions, and i will not answer them with cliches, since soviet times, and i am a product of soviet times, we have heard that the essence of the relationship between a woman and a man is the creation of a family, the family is the foundation...
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of society, the purpose of the family, the continuation of the family, the continuation of the family, the meaning of life, i, as a young man, had a model of happiness in my head, and for me she was the only woman for whom i would live my whole life, she would live her life for me, and for me it was such a sacred phenomenon, brought up obviously by french novels, which i already... read a lot in childhood, this model made me mentally renounce children, i told myself that i would not be able to belong to the whole then, she to me too, therefore i my model was a woman and a man, two, i am a monogamist, like my dad, like my uncle, like my brother, well i don’t know how it happened, maybe because it is passed down from generation to generation, it would seem that this is a great success for a woman when a man belongs only to... her, but it turned out
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that all the men of our family were deeply unhappy in their marriages, and your father too, and my father too, they were simply not loved, by the way, yes, my father and my brother, i feel sorry for them the most, because they both passed away at 37, to a large extent for this very reason, and i know this, the thing is that, uh, this...
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gradually, in general, life shattered these illusory ideas, here is the knowledge of life, practical knowledge of life, in fact, time itself, here it is a lot put everything in its place in understanding , in general, what is the essence of the relationship between a man and a woman, i had a great-grandfather, one of my great-grandfathers, one... my great-grandfather was an intellectual, even during the teretsia war , he was the director of a high school, my second great-grandfather was a simpler man, he was two meters tall, lived 99 years, his fist was like the head of any person, this man was happily married, he had 11 children, then two died, then, in general, his only son died in the war and the husbands of all his daughters too, but his panic were afraid in the family and...
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motherhood will soon turn into pure formality, now on the agenda is the question of selection of combinations in order to... then the essence of the institution of motherhood and childhood will be reduced to donation, raising children, as i see it, we live in a world of professionals, the world is ruled by professionals, and the more difficult the area of life, the more knowledge,
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skills, abilities are required, the formation of personality, perhaps the most difficult, the most important, the most delicate work is given over to the mercy of billions of amateurs, dilettantes, parents, this is nonsense, well, it has been like this since time immemorial, this has been the peace of centuries, you think that even before this the world was arranged incorrectly, well, i, i have no right to give assessments, this is not my competence, it is simply that when there is some dissonance, it will definitely be corrected, well, these are the laws of development, how this dissonance will be eliminated in the side of professionalism, i see... the institution of professional parents, these will be people with specialized education, with experience in raising children, to whom those who are not burning with desire, spend their time, health and efforts on children
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will give children for permanent upbringing. professional parents, receiving a fairly decent income, will be happy to do this work. and those who handed over their children to them will realize themselves in life, study, make a career, travel and so on, so i see, the third position is intimate life, in the form, in which it exists today, it will cease to exist, completely, let it be a gradual movement, but the question is that without necessity.
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this is a very important remark, we are now talking about marriage, yes, in its current form, yes, and its future, material dependence, this formula, the breadwinner, the keeper of the hearth, she will die, no, listen, but i am not making maximalist statements, you are making marxist statements, these are all well-known, well , in general, things, with which the gender movement began in general, with the fact that we are destroying this formula, it began, well, in the fifties, probably, in europe, it will even end successfully, after all, we are talking about different things, look, if 99% of people profess something , only 1% is an exception, then this is not what you are describing now, you are now
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describing something else, yes, that is, we are not talking about the fact that mental changes have begun and something has begun to change in various societies, yes, we are talking... about a dominant position, yes, when we talk about the fact that there is a tendency, you say, there is a tendency, it already started there a long time ago, and i am talking about when the world will turn, it will not be a trend, but... it will be the essence of existence. i will continue, perhaps, about the following functions of the family, which i would like to tell you more about: this means that there is still a very significant moment associated with transformation, with the transformation of the family. today , only one has been added to the traditional form: same-sex marriages, in the future i see other formats. families such as temporary marriage, which will
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initially assume when the relationship is concluded exhaust themselves, then it will also be dissolved, but how is this different from a civil marriage, i don’t know a civil marriage as an official form, when i say, when i say temporary marriage, this is what is formalized, it’s even a legal term. because everyone lives in communal marriages , only in marriage, this was already at the beginning of the 20th
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century, i’m talking about the future of marriage, i see it that way, well, shoot me for this, i see it that way, no, that’s good, i don’t shoot people for an opinion in our country, i’m asking, well, what is this to you different from what was already from techform, you say that this is the future, everything is clear, i still, when i talk about the future, i say that this will be a phenomenon that will become... the essence of existence, and traditional marriages that exist today, they will be a rare exception, quite funny, today we live in a different tradition, yes, well, and if we connect to this, well, let's say religion, yes, that is, there are countries where islam is practiced, where what you describe, well, it is simply impossible to imagine, it seems to me, much of what awaits us it is impossible to imagine the future, it has always been like this, the future is unimaginable, when we say they wrote
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. not rain, and before you answer, valery, let's listen to a fragment of the song autumn branch, and then you comment, okay, a branch fell rustling with leaves, a kind gentle soul sighed, a branch smiled, looking at the distant edge, said autumn, quietly... don't say goodbye, a branch smiled, dancing to
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the distant edge, said autumn, quietly, goodbye, autumn branch, my tog is not knocking , please don't shed tears, under my window, my heart is not disturbing my, my soul does not hp, to be an autumn branch, no longer envy, to be an autumn branch, no longer envy. question: how could a man write such a masterpiece on behalf of a woman?
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in order to write on behalf of a woman it is enough to be homo, that is, a human. in the light of modern knowledge , we already imagine that our emotions, our feelings are a product of biochemical processes in the body, our bodies are practically the same, in essence, and therefore there is no difficulty, for me it was not difficult, so you grieve for about the institution of family in such a way? "i think so, valera, you even wrote an article once: "i hated women", a question, a delicate question, because if you answer it sincerely, then of course, it will look a little immodest, but i will answer it directly, my dad had a friend, he was
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small, practically a dwarf of growth with a big hump, i had a period in my life when i... suffered for several years from the fact that i was not like my dad's friend, i understand that it is very difficult to believe, did you want to be a harbun? yes, well, my favorite fairy tale is a dwarf nose, to be different from others, to have some kind of special feature, now we are talking about pressure, the thing is that due to this absolutely powerful pressure, i dreamed, because i began to understand that i would never be able to make something serious out of myself, i would not be able to realize myself, i would not be able to become who i want, that is why i had a picture, here i am, like my father's friend, i find myself the same woman, we love each other and no one touches us, no one needs us at all, this wait, they prevented you from writing music women, i went through hysterics, sobbing,
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grabbing legs, blackmail by cutting veins, jumping from the ninth floor, that is, it is such a rather difficult difficult path all this happened to me for only one single reason: i met the woman i dreamed of only at 33 years old, and before that all these hysterics, well, listen, well, each of us in our youth experienced all this, cutting veins. i figured it out when i thought about why romeo and you know, when i with this question juliet is so young, all these passions, they
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are good at 13, 14 years old, and then, you know, adulthood comes, we are talking about youth, about youth, of course, that is. that's when you, it was 20 years ago, and then more, when you wrote, i hated women, it was even stranger for me to hear it from you, because the calling card is certainly the song your mother, mother, through the years of separation i will return again.
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darling, i'm on 381 stop, i'm boring my husband, because he's only happy when i'm not around, you're probably... the best man of all, i just love someone else, i want you to know, i 've only loved you all these years, vanya hid it very well, no one even guessed, anya, where are you going, he won't make it to the train like this, you know how hard it is for me to lie to my wife and mistress at the same time, but can we start with the main thing, okay, start with the main thing, i love you, did you really find a kind person, do you think, that i don’t know that alina is my daughter, watch the series the best summer of our life on the channel. belarus 24, a native of mensk goes to the village to find out how it is better than the city, you are a real modern
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belarusian guslar, yes, you have five children, yes, i was really drawn to nature, i just realized that nature is generally my priority in life, so in general i dropped everything, i already missed this space right in the city, i missed nature, you studied, lived and worked in moscow. then at one fine moment of your life you had to return here to your historical homeland, take care of your grandmother, then you converted your parents' house into a stable, now you save horses, why horses, because other animals also need help, to each his own, well , by and large horses are such a childhood illness, what can i say, the only thing that relaxed me, this is something somewhere...
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with such archaism, then with vocabulary 18, 19, difficult syntax, i wrote everything and made a grammatical mistake in a word, i'm even ashamed to pronounce which one, so i had to enter due to family circumstances, i didn't wait, i didn't live to the tenth grade, i had to enter where 14-year-olds were accepted. so i got into a music school, which i don't regret at all. the program "say ne molchi" is on the air again, and today our guest is the composer-poet, valery golovko. and we, dear viewers, we continue asking your questions to our guest. valery, a question about health. a viewer asks what approaches he professes in relation to his body, what he eats, how much he exercises? i will answer. this question, but we must understand that what is good for a russian is death for a german, yes, that is, we cannot extend someone's experience to other people,
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as for me, i will emphasize once again, this is my experience, this does not mean that it suits someone, i do not eat anything for 20 hours a day, that is, i eat at 15-19 o'clock, fruits, bread, bakery products, flour, all cereals are excluded, from berries only blueberries, one and a half hours of cardio load daily, before, when i was younger, i trained for 4 hours a day, now the load is one and a half hours, that is, such , let's say, gentle, in conclusion i want to say another very important thing, there is an organization that constantly tries to bring panic.
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and so on, so i would like to say the following, that panic is when a person has health problems and even some critical situations, appeal you need to understand your body, your willpower and spirit, that i once read in the description of a 12-step program that is designed to help people with alcohol and drug addiction, and the first line in the description... sounded like this: alcoholism is a fatal , incurable disease. so i would like to address all tv viewers who may themselves suffer from alcohol addiction or have relatives or friends there. you can’t even imagine how easily in 25 years or later, all types of addictions will be cured, just like all types neuroses. i could suggest,
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i can't do it in the program format, but if there is... such a request, i can suggest how to live these 25 years of a full life, without being destroyed either physically or mentally, i would like to say that there are no fatal and incurable diseases on earth, there are diseases that today, the key today, today are beyond the control of doctors, and tomorrow these diseases will be awaited by what awaited cholera, plague, smallpox, spanish flu, tuberculosis and so on, another... important remark, beyond the control of doctors, this does not mean that it is beyond human control, after a serious accident i was sentenced to have my left lung removed, after traumatic shock of the lungs, it did not open, i asked how i could save my lung, they told me that you could do it, try to do it, blowing up balloons from morning till night, but you will not be able to do this with ruptured internal organs and seven broken ribs, so only surgery, i blew balloons, with seven
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broken ribs with... a diaphragm sewn to them after the rupture, sewn after rupture of the liver in two parts, a shining wound after the removal of the spleen, again after the rupture, and i blew the balloons, and i blew it easily, i saved him, i returned to a full life, and i returned to music, when i am asked how i could survive, having received injuries incompatible with life, i always answer that yes, i received from nature a powerful organism with a large margin of safety, but not less ... this circumstance played that from the moment i opened my eyes in intensive care and realized that i was alive, i had no doubt that i would return myself to a full life, no seconds, this is my motto in relation to health, not subject to doctors, does not mean a person who is not subject to them, well, for me here again a bright example is roman kostamarav, yes, who does exactly the same thing, i feel very sorry for this guy, he is a wonderful guy, i feel very sorry, really, well because he...
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all this happened to him because of his stupidity, he committed an incredible stupidity, and i committed it in my life, well, we all committed it, the main thing is how you get out of this situation, well, yes, i will give him courage, this stupidity, as my mother always said, dry wood or something like that creaks for a long time, here are people to whom nature gives powerful strong organisms, they treat them mercilessly, very irrationally, and i suffered from this in my time too, here i am... i got used to it too, well, we all know how, better early than, well , of course, late, there were a lot of questions in these comments, to which we are addressing today, questions about creativity, let's listen to another composition of yours, and after it it will be very easy for me to ask the next question, i will go to another world and i am afraid to fall, and my old piano. there are no keys to fall,
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from measures unknown to me, as for creativity, every year on september 6, on my birthday, i publish a large post in one: non-verbally, neither pistoletically, nor in thoughts, books like an anthology of wisdom, to consider exclusively as a collection of exercises for developing your creativity, and i will now
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give an example, here is a common thought that is canonized wisdom, for some reason it is attributed to remarque, although he simply used it, part of the thought was used by remarque. happiness is when you are understood, and this thought is elevated to the rank of incredible wisdom, in fact, this is incredible stupidity, who of us is ready to create a family with a person who only understands you, does not love, yes, is not your friend, does not live for you, but simply understands, and there are many people who understand each other in this world, how did the thought sound completely, the thought of confucius, happiness is when ...
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understand you, but that means they won't figure it out and won't be able to use you for selfish reasons. great happiness is, uh, when they don't love you, but then you won't face the problem of fighting off... russian maxims, which and under which one can bring a powerful philosophical basis, another example, we develop our creativity, another example, socrates: the more i know, the more i understand that i know nothing, antithesis, the more i understand, the more i know, the more i understand, period, pythagoras, life
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is like games, some come to compete, others to trade, and the happiest is to watch, antithesis, life is not like games, life is not lived in a field, this is how creativity develops, take these anthologies on the problematic problematic that is touched upon there, reflect with your thoughts and be sure to antitheses to those thoughts that you read, this develops very strongly, argue with confucius, no less, right, to summarize, there are no authorities, nothing can be taken on faith, it must be subjected to critical analysis and formulated independently, then you will live your own life, not a borrowed one, have your own opinion and your own outlook on life. absolutely, one viewer remembered that she read your poetic cycle "philosophy of darkness" and she experienced a real shock, asks, how can one be so deep, think so unusually at 22? i, like everyone else, was looking for the meaning of life, and these searches poured out of cyclosophy
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darkness, which he wrote in st. petersburg at the age of 22-24. the hero, throughout the entire cycle , is in search of a door that will open..." the light to the knowledge of the meaning of being, and he wanders in the darkness and sees rays of light, he approaches them, they disappear along with hope, when he already... what is the meaning of being and is there one? i know the answer
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perfectly well: everything that is of course is illogical, our life, of course, our life is ruled by the fear of death, few people have managed to get rid of it, this applies including to deeply religious people, no one of them, one cannot be sure that he will get to heaven, they leave him in different ways, someone gives birth to 15 children, someone dies... at work to earn 15 million, that is, they work from morning till night, someone dissolves in creativity, someone in a glass, but the point is that we all, i include my generation of people, a little younger, we were all not prepared for real life, ours, we were waiting for a fairy tale, but we encountered real homo sapiens, a characteristic to which they are given... in the list of mortal sins, our children, post-soviet,
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already grew up without rose-colored glasses, but our upbringing did not give them the opportunity to prepare for real life, only the children of our children, they must be brought up and educated in a completely different way, the children of our children must know that life is a war, you can be killed in this war at any moment, the children of our children must know that every day is a struggle for existence. for honesty for betrayal, capable of great deeds for meanness, how inopportunely these thoughts came to your mind, you live in the era of all sorts of unicorns, pink ones, and even our children, our children's children, our grandchildren should never feel superior to
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fallen or shaken people, and when passing by a person lying under a fence, they should understand that with a 50% probability they could have been in his place, this is the truth of life, and not a fairy tale that wolves tell sheep in this, i did not notice, valera, that you are so categorical in relation to your daughter, you scare her every night that the world is cruel. on the contrary, you want to make her life beautiful, comfortable, cloudless and so on, don't you? i can to say the following, that i am not, i am talking about our children's children, yeah, about children, that's it, the topic is closed, i will not be able to raise my children the way it should be, i am a product, i am a product of soviet times, what can i do, i cannot raise them on what i am on, that is, this is a message later, this is a message to descendants, right? i
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also quote: what a bright and interesting life we have is not a question, but rather recognition of merit, 25 years old university teacher, at 27 - pianist arranger of the best musical group of the ussr, singers, at 42 years old a composer for a hollywood label, and behind all this work, you agree with this comment, you have a bright life, yes i have lived a bright life, the heavens have given me a lot, a lot... i would not like to describe the future of any children at all, due to the reasons that i
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was not born to think linearly, and as a person who has been playing chess since early childhood, i can see many steps ahead, so let's do without apocalyptic scenarios, that is, let's leave this question unanswered, and it seemed to me that you were only tuned to an apocalyptic scenario, no, and why the vision of reality perceived in this way, but if you were sitting...
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didn't it seem to you that you were again building some kind of utopian idea? there will also be the same theses that you are stuffing, stuffing us with? i am talking about the fact that today children need to be educated, brought up in a completely different way, with an emphasis on psychological stability, on high learning ability, on high creativity, why? because you will have to study all your life, not like now, you finish your studies, you work, you will have to study all your life and you will have to relearn many times, naturally, therefore, in a different way everything should happen naturally, is this a utopia? no, it's not a utopia, let 's see, when did we learn about the internet, guys, i personally, i personally in 1988 or 1988, i don't remember now, witnessed the delivery of the first computers to belarus, to the university, to the regional hospital, and so on
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and so forth, i was one of the first owners of cellular communications here in belarus, when... it was, some 30 years have passed, 30 years, now we live in a completely different reality, well yes, video calls seemed, it seems to me that the problem is that you have nostalgia for the time when you were the first owner of a mobile phone i have no nostalgia at all, i can say such a thing that i would never want to return to my youth or adolescence, never, if they told me to go back to any age, at 17, at 20, well, you know, when there is no demand.
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nothing happens, because well , which is impossible to approach, yes, in general , performers earn money, they have no money, they have no, not a trite repertoire and so on next, now everyone is singing a cover, it's free , very good, let's take a short break, after a short break, we'll return to this studio, for now subscribe to our telegram channel, i'll say don't be silent, look for all our releases on the belarus 1 youtube channel. on the air again say don't be silent, our guest today is the composer-poet, valery golovko. we talked about your success as a composer, this is a victory concert, it was held with great furor in the palace of the republic. let's see how it
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was, and then we'll continue. thank you, dear friends, thank you, i expected warm welcome, but i did not expect such a welcome, i am so pleased that everything i do is perceived so close to you, my heart, it lives in my heart, thank you very much, i am very pleased, i am pleased that my work is so appreciated, thank you, i gave 17 years of my life
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what does unity mean to you? i will literally say a few words about the victory program, this is my admiration for the feat. my two grandfathers who died in the war and those who saved the homeland from enslavement. the slavs bore the brunt of this war on their shoulders, the greatest contribution to the victory, and of course the biggest victims. 19.7 million, no less, because they are considered from this figure to 23. 19.7 million no less and... 55 million killed in the war, every third, that's why i wrote in the recommendation: every third one appeals to unborn grandchildren in the slavic language, and the discussion: on the topic of three peoples or one, well, there is no subject for discussion, well, what subject for discussion, three languages, three cultures, one
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faith, common history, living together on one piece of land, well, what peoples can be closer on this planet than these peoples, what a subject for discussion, but that's not the point, these are native people, these are native people, the word slavyanin: acquired a global sound for me when i learned why the word rab in english sounds like sleve, because africans were not the first slaves, but the mouse slavs, i don't think, i know, and from this sleve, slave in english, otslevik, and i encountered at one time the attitude towards the slavs, not even towards people, as towards people, not even... varieties and i know that in 150-200 years all the slavs will be united, we will not
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go into detail, these are simply the laws of historical development, it can't be any other way, for too long these peoples have generally been discriminated against. valera, you have an award for extraordinary abilities in america, they also treated you as a second-class person, did you feel it somehow? i felt it in america, i felt it in america, even despite all your, well, before you know, before receiving this status, of course, it opened many doors for me, it was already completely different, but i received it after 10 years of living in america this status, and i, in these 10 years , have generally experienced this attitude to a sufficient extent, and of course, this is what prompted... me to give 25 years of my life continuing to work in this direction, i gave it to the future that will one day
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post of the year, you can go deeper there september 6, september 6, and for now, tatyana shcherbina and victoria popova, we say goodbye to you for today, goodbye, goodbye, valery golovko is speaking now. dear viewers, i am glad that the meeting that many of you asked for in the comments took place. i am extremely grateful to you for your high assessment of my civic position, my composer's poetic work. your reaction: made me understand that it is time for me to go beyond the professional composer's work
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start to pass on applied knowledge. i understood that you expect ideas from me that you won't get from the internet or books, won't hear on the radio, won't see in the movies, everything you've heard today is a product of my brain, my ideas, my personal view, i tried to be informative i really hope that you found it interesting, i wish you health , happiness, all the best, valery, please, from a person ahead of his time, with pleasure, i wrote the word delight.
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a good vocal school and steady professional growth allowed him to quickly take a leading place in the acting troupe, my first performance, which was played here, was a children's performance "the bremen town musicians". for more than 16 years, the artist has been trying to give people joy. he can rightfully be called count ryuzanov of our time. we all know very well, a wonderful performance, wonderful rock, like
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