lelikovskaya matchmaker, this is the kolinkovichsky system, this is the system of young girls from the village of neglyubka, this is the pinsko-ivatsevichsky system, it is distinguished by its laconicism, embroidered flowers on the apron and such a headdress, made owls as a sign of writing and a bird, secretary, secretary bird, i am engaged in the manufacture of textile dolls, and also make folk dolls.

the festival of folk art, poetry and folklore, verasnevsky bouquet, flared up. there are a lot of places where you can go, look, a lot of exhibitions, it is really visible, that the preparation for the event was high-quality, there were many pavilions, and belarus the film arrived, very cool for young people as well. many houses have been transformed, we have a lot of murals, art objects in the city, it all looks very wonderful, very good, very beautiful, one admiration.

again to paris, where our igor bokoy still has no equal. today our swimmer had no equal in the 100 m backstroke, this is igor's third award in the capital of france in 3 days and nineteenth paralympic medal the highest standard in his career. this is how our champion was awarded. tomorrow igor bokov, like the other belarusian swimmers, has a day off, the bobruisk native will swim the next distance on monday, and tomorrow the attention of belarusian fans will be riveted to... we have mastered the spirit and

continue the cycle with faith in yourself the games of the four years have repeatedly tested our athletes for strength, we are a story about those who saw paris and won, who , despite all the obstacles, returned home triumphant, and today we will tell the story of a very young mogilev resident violeta bordelovskaya, silver. prize winner in trampoline jumping, who brought her to the sport, what was going on in her head when the results were announced and how did her family and friends celebrate the olympic success? watch right now.

there was no awareness until the very end, the chinese woman, when she fell, olga anatolyevna gets up and says: congratulations on the silver, that 's probably when something instantly hit me in the head, i immediately burst into tears. decisive success there in paris, which the whole country was watching, but the loudest voices of support came from mogilev, where the the sporting path of an olympic silver medalist, her first steps in a future triumphant career, violetta took at the age of 4. i remember that i did nothing at first, i just came with my brother for company, so to speak, did some of my own children's things, then i began to look at my brother, i see that he is jumping. it is interesting to me, when i

trained her, every day she left training in tears, mom, take me away from him, and i always got it from my mom, probably, if i i didn't do that, she could now... her, she doesn't need it, i won't send her to the trampoline, and i somehow decided due to my age that she needs to train, until i was 15 i trained with my first coach with morozov yuri borisovich, then i moved to the national team, there to vlas olga anatolyevna, i started working with her, we started learning new elements very quickly, i was good at it, i wanted to become a veterinarian, but then, when i got into the national team, i realized that i didn't have time for it, so i decided to give it up. as violetta admits, the last start before the olympic games did not work out, portugal was not given to the young athlete, and there was only a month left before the igors.

after portugal, i immediately went to training, immediately began to work on elements, work on combinations, without understanding. why it was not working, then, when we arrived at the olympics, it became easier, also a warm-up hall, i jumped on two nets, when we left there, i tried not to think at all, to forget at all what happened today, because the main day was tomorrow, day x, the bercy arena, which received more than 11 thousand spectators, was buzzing kakuley, and the main thing here is not to get confused, do everything on the first try, at that moment i did not hear anything, i heard only when i was swinging and that they introduced me then everything, i did not hear the screams that were there, i realized for myself that now i only need to listen to her olga anatolyevna, that i need her now like no one else, of course,

when they showed the scores, i already felt that she would be somewhere in the top three. that in the semi-finals seventh, in the final second, well i did not tell anyone, i just said that he laughed, she tells me that nothing tell me, this is it, i took the envelope, i just wrote, put it down, didn't tell anyone, but the dream really turned out to be a prophetic thing, dad made only a little mistake in the qualification, his daughter

came in second, there was a bottle of...

photographers were shouting at me that i had to take the medal in my teeth, and i was standing there, i didn't understand what i had to do, i showed him like that, then he showed me that i had to take it in my teeth, only then did i understand everything. the silver medal of the olympic games, how much is behind this podium, persistent training, tears, mistakes, persistence, every day a new struggle with yourself. when you are told that many people believe in you, you also need to believe in yourself. because without faith in yourself, nothing will come from yourself, when i competed in other starts, i did not have faith in myself, many people told me that they believed in me, before leaving, even at the olympics they told me that they believed in me, but i myself did not, probably at the olympics, when there was already

this competitive period, at some point it occurred to me that why do i always not believe, too i'll try, well, from such faith here... all that the most cherished dream, gold, you have to go for gold to los angeles. the project of the presidential sports club sport for all continues to march across different corners of belarus. today, a new multifunctional site was opened in the city of mosty , grodno region. a real sports festival came to gymnasium number one. the new

location for students is a gift not only for the day of knowledge, but also for the day of the city. the sports ground is equipped with modern equipment, exercise machines and a basketball court field. this is the second playground in our city, last year we opened it on the territory of the fifth school, it is really popular among young people, among the adult generation. and we see that the number of young mostovites who want to play sports, lead a healthy lifestyle, is increasing every time, and this became, one can say, the reason that we built this playground on the territory of the gymnasium, honestly, we managed to try out the playground a little, but we liked it very much, it is modern , there are a lot of things in it, we there will be something to do. let me remind you that on the initiative

of the presidential sports club, with the assistance of local, executive and administrative bodies, a republican social project to support sports and a healthy lifestyle, sports for all, was launched. in the grodno region, for example, 18 such sites were opened last year, and eight more are planned for this year. the next installation point is smargon. that's all the news i have on air next family show, good evening, don't switch.

maxim vladimir. good evening, good evening! we continue the series of acquaintances with new ministers, probably even more difficult than

heading the ministry of information during the information war, maybe only the leadership of the diplomatic department in the most non-diplomatic period. the conflict in ukraine, the middle east is burning, the west, but they are just throwing packages of sanctions at belarus. and the entire diplomatic landscape in the world. is disrupted, i know that in your youth you wanted to go into military service, and the mid today is probably even a little bit of the ministry of defense, so what happens? well, if we talk about our own desires, then just be afraid of your unwillingness. this was practically the motto, probably, if you look at all my career moves since graduating from the law faculty. i really didn’t want to go to the diplomatic service, where my father wanted me to go, i ended

up getting there, that is, i wanted to be a military man, they said correctly, then at some point... i somehow couldn’t imagine any other job for myself than the diplomatic service, and of course, inside i always aspired to a career, as they say, for any military man, for a soldier, so, to become a general, so to become an ambassador, but fate decreed that it threw me into the presidential administration, when in the presidential administration it seemed to me that there was no better job than to build the foreign policy of our state, based on the president's instructions, the curator of the diplomatic line. the president sent me to sports communications, where my father really did not want me to ever end up, that is, being the minister of sports himself, he always characterized it as very intriguing, quarrelsome, therefore i always said that my son would not go into the sports industry, but i got there, well then the presidential administration back, when i had already gotten used to the fact that

there is nothing better than sports diplomacy, when in the presidential administration i became involved in the most serious issues of activity. i honestly didn’t even think about the near future, and certainly didn’t dream about it, so here you should rather be afraid of your unwillingness, but of your own complexes, that’s what has haunted me my whole life. from the point of view of what period is today for diplomats, well, i will say that the most on the contrary, even such a diplomatic period. because you see how painfully the international agenda is experiencing, this transformation from a unipolar to a multipolar world, and even the americans today no longer doubt that the world is moving towards this multipolarity and it is only a matter of time to maintain this hegemony, everyone understands this, of course, and

of course, today the most important task of diplomats of all countries, politicians of all countries, is to find a place for their state in that architect...

relevant things, you are our chinese side, peace initiatives on ukraine, issues of reforming the un, today it is all just seething, therefore from the point of view of a diplomatic worker in general, who wants to prove himself and who wants to take part in something eventful, today is just the time to work, well, to the question of such a militarized thing, i will answer with the expression of gromyk, who said: "better 10 years of negotiations than one day of war." today these 10 years of negotiations, and as the president says, it is better that these there were more negotiations and longer than actually, at least some hints that some armed conflicts our country would be drawn into. of course, no one needs war, at least the belarusians definitely don't need it, but you mentioned your father, then i will definitely ask this question, in our country there are not so many hereditary leaders,

political dynasties, well, it's not our history, the average official, he is more like me.

in general, my father and i were once close, so at that moment they told our family: well , that's it, rozhenko, your time is up, from now on you'll have to do it yourself, and there was no choice, as a matter of fact, i am very grateful to those people in the ministry of foreign affairs who took me up, then later to the head of our state, because i already said this, all my movements were his decisions, and without even asking my opinion, by and large, because somewhere even in a fatherly way, he led me further in life, taking into account his, probably to a greater extent, i think, those personal contacts, he often talks about this with my father, that is, he just unexpectedly for me remained the person who at some point later, seeing that

something could probably come of me, began to prepare me somewhere, maybe for this position and began, because in those 24 years, of course, everything collapsed at once and i had to create everything from the very beginning, actually, when at some... moment people who did not know my family tree found out that i had such a father, then of course they were very surprised that such a son grew up, because in fact in those years few of the children of high-ranking officials went into government service, because the salaries are low, the opportunities are small, it is absolutely not a solution to some everyday issues that a young family needs, an apartment, a car, some things, i could go there because my father was nearby, when my father passed away it was... there was already an inertial movement further, by that time i had already become part of a diplomatic family, i liked it, and i had already moved on, but most of the young people, i remember

who i studied with, and there were all sorts of the law faculty, the children of the leaders, none of them went into the civil service, they all went into these then -nascent cooperative movements, various firms, private corporations, some went abroad and so on, but practically... no one went into the civil service, so then it was not quite like that. now i think that if the child of a civil servant wants to go into the civil service, this should only be welcomed, this means that in the family he was brought up with the right sense of patriotism, in fact, when you look at some of our leaders, whose children study abroad and do not return, stay there, create families and, in fact , continue their lives there, well, for me this is an indicator of the upbringing. appropriate in such families, therefore, as much as i would welcome, of course, parents should also look to ensure that their

child, who goes to work, still has his own life, you cannot steal the life of your son or daughter, that is, you can only push towards something, advise something, here, but to pull him, to pull him through all the steps of the career ladder, i am absolutely sure, it is impossible, otherwise he will lose himself at some point, when there is no such support, he will be left alone with his problems, it will turn out that he can cope with these problems himself, he cannot, then the question is tricky, but i can’t help but ask, in your previous post you largely determined the course of a number of ministries, so how to accept it today for the implementation of your own directive, here in a different horizontal, but you would not want it now... these demands should be softened, yes , since, well, i will also answer this trick with a frankness, yes, well, not so much built,

probably, how the ministry should work, but how they should build their work, based on the tasks of the instructions that the president sets, this is absolutely true, and of course, it was necessary to ask very harshly from the ministry of foreign affairs , including, but what... there is a big difference that when you are in the administration, above you is the head of the administration and the president, strictly speaking, you understand this pulse that beats in the palace of independence, you pass it on, as the president says, so that they feel the rhythm and tension, this is one thing, when you sit down, then the ministry turns out that the pulse is passed on to you from the presidential administration, from the council of ministers, from the council of ministers one deputy prime minister, the second deputy prime minister, the third, the prime minister and so on and so forth, here you begin to understand that there are probably too many of these pulses, and of course, i would like a little less of this tension, because the person is charged, he has gone through a kind of school

such around the president, i... i worked in the administration for 18 years, then maybe i would have enough tension only with the presidential administration, but some people with whom i communicated, probably horizontally before, let's call it that, now they want to show me that probably after all there is a pulse, it did not only come from me at one time, it can come from there, i am coping with this for now, as i understand you, maxim vladimirovich, that's exactly what the president told you when appointing you to the position, that the foreign ministry needs to be returned.

that means this international agenda reformat to the needs of the socio-political and socio-economic development of the country, and not as it once was, that the answer from the ministry of foreign affairs was that you know, you put some political affairs, economic issues, social nature in order there, give it to us and we will promote the interests of belarus there somewhere abroad, probably, after all, it is not so, the mechanism for promoting our domestic economic policy is the ministry of foreign affairs, and not vice versa. well , a little bit about the rhythm, since you have already touched on it, literally a week after your appointment the chinese foreign minister has already received, before that in astana you already talked with the heads of the russian and kazakh foreign ministry, this is about this shake-up, hasn't the rhythm started too frantically, well, in many ways, i will say, this rhythm was set before me by sergei fedorovich olenik, in fact, i am very grateful to him, because many things that are

in my work schedule today. meetings and contacts of trips, all this was directly worked out by him with the staff of the foreign ministry, but i am very grateful, and indeed i am even more strengthened this dynamic, because just the way you show yourself in the first days, weeks, months of work, how you make acquaintances, how you position yourself in relations with your colleagues, largely depends on how smoothly or unsmoothly you enter this community, or what , external?

from the central asian republics, sco member countries, then in principle in literally 10 days i covered with acquaintances and already some solutions to some issues, really the most... a great help in further work, well, i can even say special gratitude, considering that my colleague from our closest allies, in fact it is kazakhstan, in fact, as soon as the appointment in the country took place, my visit to the ministry of foreign affairs was immediately organized, a meeting was held and a ceremonial dinner there from the point of view of the fact that we met, and it turned out that he also headed the presidential administration, so there was something to talk about, these points of contact were found, now i understand that... there is a friend in central asia and he also understands that there is someone to push on in belarus, but i also can’t help but i would like to highlight the meeting with lavrov, because i had a telephone conversation with him, literally on the second day after my appointment, there was a very important topic, we worked it out very well, and of course, this was the first

official conversation upon arrival in astana, and i cannot help but pay tribute to the wisdom and such conceptual approach of my colleague from china, mr. wang. of course, i was very surprised, the meeting, instead of the planned short time, lasted 3 hours, and it was in a country residence, government, which has never happened before, and all this was confirmed after my appointment, so of course, i built this rhythm myself, based on what was before, but i, frankly speaking, am very grateful for this, but the president noted that you are not a new person in diplomatic circles, have you worked in poland? in israel, i will probably start with a familiar neighboring country. on tuesday, latvia banned entry into its territory of cars with belarusian license plates. poland is creating constant obstacles

at the border for our heavy trucks. lithuania generally concerned about the belarusian food basket for those who cross the border. the mfa promised once that it would give its own. asymmetrical answer, so what answer does the mfa give? the ministry of foreign affairs worked out a proposal, together with interested parties all the details were discussed submitted for consideration to the president, here is a proposal on visa-free entry into the territory of belarus for citizens of a number of countries, the president supported this proposal, and i am glad to inform our colleagues and partners from the eu countries that from 19 at 8:00 a.m. a new regime is being introduced for citizens of the european union and other european countries, for whom a visa regime has been in effect up to now, a visa-free

entry procedure through railway and automobile checkpoints into the republic of belarus for up to 30 days. this visa regime will be in effect until december 31 , 2024, as you know, the same regime is in effect for... contacts between people, which, from my point of view, is a gross violation of all existing conventions within the osce, the council of europe, the european union. we, however, on the contrary, show our openness, the desire to show our country to the international community, come, see, work with our people.

will come more than once, and having seen the first time, will want to come a second, third and fourth, taking into account that it will be a visa-free regime, i am sure that he will bring more of his friends who are easy-going, so we agreed, let's go to belarus tomorrow , let's go, well, as they say in midi, welcome, poland, for me personally... the possibility of closing borders for cargo is nothing more than a pr decision that will obviously hit the poles themselves, no matter how they put a good face on a bad game, won't poland turn into the polish silk road dead end?

you know, a very interesting question, i think i know and understand poland a little bit. i'll reveal another secret, but it may not be a secret for... for the poles it's definitely not a secret, so for you and for the viewers of the program too, my grandmother was maria genrikhovna, and my mother was bronislava frantsevna, on that line, so it was just that. let's say, polish part of my gene pool, so when i say that my grandmother went to the red church until her last days and prayed in polish, you will understand that i, in fact, understand in general what the polish people are, the polish nation, their aspirations, their inner mentality, because i remember both my grandmother and my mother very well, they were such pure poles, in fact, with all the characteristic deeds, such hard work,

so somewhere with someone they are playing this trump card of our border and this trade turnover, well, i want to say that blackmail regarding transit of chinese goods did not work out at all, no matter how much they bragged, otherwise these fugitives would not have nodded their head, in fact, it was our initiative, during my trip we very much handed over a number of there, that is, documents , explained in great detail the nature of things at the border, which was perceived not just with...

in economic relations between china and europe, from the point of view of the implementation of those tasks that the european union, as if delegated to poland on the protection of this border, preventing migration, cooperation with belarus on border customs issues, they are generally setting up the european union today by not wanting to deal with this, trying to benefit from belarus in some bilateral matters, that is , you hang bilateral matters on bilateral matters, but you do not... engage in petty blackmail at the expense of the interests of the

organization in which you are, because these migrants today are a really serious problem for the european union. problems with cargo flow, a serious problem for companies in the european union and chinese partners, and here they decided to make everyone hostage, well, and i think that as soon as they see that this does not work, then figuratively speaking, this topic will go somewhere, they will be forced to engage in cooperation with us, let me remind you, the president made them an offer, we are waiting for them in belarus, we will show them everything, tell them everything, talk, if they have any doubts, any comments, we are ready to listen to it, but we are ready to work, understanding that on this side there is a serious national polish minority, with which they would like to maintain relations, on the other side there is belarusian, but with such steps they are acting in violation of all norms, rules, the neighborhood of all conventions and standards of the osce, the council of europe and

so on, but today everyone turns a blind eye to this. let's then look at this issue in bilateral relations, yes, a little from the other side, because it is poland and lithuania, our closest neighbors, that have become a haven for our fugitives, including for people who are real criminals, but love for it has recently begun to turn into, to put it mildly, non-acceptance, right? mass denial of residence permits, in lithuania in the same, yes, declaring people a threat to national security, numerous relocations under 40%.

poland and lithuania really did not like the policy or do not like the policy of our president of our government of some kind - feelings, they thought and continue to think, maybe somewhere, that some other government, another president, will be more accommodating from the point of view of the implementation of poland and lithuania's interests. what are the interests? of course, poland wants to be more active in the western regions of belarus, as in ukraine. many there still consider these to be their eastern chairs, with lost property, lands there, buildings and so on. of course, they want to play the main economic violin here. they want the economic expansion of the european union to go through poland, and this is already completely different money, completely different resources. the most important thing for lithuania is to kill in belarus the beginnings of any identification of these southern regions of lithuania with the belarusian national idea, called these fugitives of litvinism, you see what

is happening there, as soon as they all go to vilnius, where 100 years ago the ideas of national liberation there. within the framework of russia, the common empire, the belarusian movement, 100 years ago, they sat down again, started talking about it again, and they were immediately given a slap on the wrist, because it absolutely destroys any of these historical paradigms of the existence of the lithuanian state that have been created to date, in fact, i remember, the first president of our visit to lithuania officially, it was in my opinion ninety-five, i think it was ninety-four probably, our president signing the treaty. on friendship, cooperation, several more treaties, on the border, there on the status of some objects, all of lithuania speaks out, speaks out, and there, it means, hangs a gabilen of some century with a coat of arms, it means, a chase, where the tail is down, at that time we, it means, still have a coat of arms, just a chase with a tail down and with all

the tangible things that characterize the difference between the coats of arms at that time, it means lithuania and belarus, it turns out that there is some kind of dissonance, that is, it seems like... and of course, all this depresses them, they thought that they would change the government here, put someone in jail, that is, in exchange for this, and we know for sure that such conversations were held, they would get a solution to their problems, financial, economic, and maybe even land ones, in fact, for this such people will sit on the throne in belarus, but this did not happen, naturally, they thought to do it like... and what was interesting in the first year, in the second year, motorcades, trips, belarusian houses and so on, complete freedom in decisions and actions for these fugitives, today it is already becoming a burden. to be honest, i wonder

how to explain to those guards who walk and these drivers and motorcades around tikhanovskaya, maybe even more than around the president of lithuania, all these 4 years, what they are doing at all, why is this necessary, i am not even talking about ordinary taxpayers of these two countries, why money is spent on all this sfor if their work does not lead to anything good in relations between the countries leads, in principle, we all already understand that they will not go anywhere, they will not sit down anywhere and they will not give up any chips to these countries, they will still have to sit down and negotiate with the current government here with president alexander... woe, than lukashenko, therefore today more and more this is in this suitcase without a handle, and then this handle will also be thrown out, when some connections are destroyed, belarus creates lightning-fast practically something new, in general, diplomacy in the classical sense, it is something so cautious, conservative on soft paws,

yes, here is razimbabwe, one china, three, the highway, brics on the horizon, well, you can't find enough fingers, and... where does such multifaceted activity come from and how does it work? it's like, probably, the overflow of two vessels, if someone wants something to flow and there is something to flow to. our president constantly sets the task that in these conditions in which we find ourselves today, firstly, we must qualitatively fulfill our task, and secondly, we must run as fast as we can to fulfill it. and of course, we cannot afford that classical diplomacy, which was formed there for years, in some countries for decades and centuries.

there is a need, they have a need, but today this is the only opportunity, because well, our partners abroad are absolutely incapable of reaching an agreement, and we always welcome any consultations, we are ready, open to any negotiations on any topics, to solving any issues, which are on the agenda, but today we are forced to go to our already partners further away, where they are waiting for us, where they are waiting for us, where i will tell you, in what i can be sure, that our partners there... then russia, the cis countries, china, our partners in africa, they are more reliable in asia, because in fact it turns out that we

look at the world with the same eyes, and in fact all of us, through such organizations as the sco, brics, regional organizations that exist in asia and latin america, here in the middle east, here we are all adherents of that new world of multipolarity, and these... adherents are becoming more and more, we take only one organization, the sco, the sco is almost 3.5 billion people, this is 40% of the world's population, if combine shoos with brix, it will already be more than half of the world's population, if we take shoons, in fact 30% of industrial production of the entire world, add brix there and we almost reach 50, and this is all a resource base, relying on which we can solve and ... political, economic, social issues, precisely in that region. well , read all the most famous analysts

of this eurasian integration, the eurasian space, they all say that it is there that a new center of power will emerge, a center of attraction for the implementation of the most interesting political, economic plans, this is the heart of the world in general, that's why we go there. now, in order to get to the same lithuania or... to explain that this organization gives exactly to each of us, and not to the state as a whole, that's what? well, within the framework of these organizations , both the sco and brics, common approaches are being worked out for the country. participants in this include partners, observers, that is, in solving economic issues, social issues,

educational, what issues, in addition, this is a powerful platform for building a common political line, this is a platform for holding multilateral and bilateral meetings for further resolution of already bilateral issues, this is support in international organizations, and i say that within the framework of these organizations... we can rely and believe that our partners will not abandon us and will support us, and practice proves this, this is the solution of financial issues that also worry us today, this means the promotion of joint projects, for example , such logistics projects as the transport corridor from belarus to pakistan, through russia, through kazakhstan, uzbekistan, afghanistan, afghanistan in this regard is already a calm state today, i spoke with the minister of foreign affairs. afghanistan, he told me a lot about how seriously trade is going between these two countries today, and even advised to also go to afghanistan and through

afghanistan further, so we have a lot of stereotypes so far in relation to countries, because we may know them little, here, but in fact these are the broadest opportunities for multilateral cooperation formats and bilateral, which have specific economic benefits, political positioning of the country, and most importantly... the most important thing is that this is strengthening the role of the global south and member countries of these organizations in terms of counteracting all these political attacks, sanctions regimes and so on from the collective west. okay, and brics, when will this abbreviation finally become ours? well, there is one topic regarding brics, at the moment we are very closely cooperating within the framework of this organization, we take part in all its segments, meetings at the level of education ministers and...

and what is interesting to us in india, since you've already mentioned it? well, in fact, i'm just for using any mechanisms to implement our goals, tasks in developing bilateral cooperation with countries, that is, let it be the first lady, and informal communication, now, following the results of the visit of the zimbabwean delegation, it is planned, in the coming days a delegation of our

union of women of belarus will go and all these formats serve... only one thing: strengthening relations, interpersonal contacts, for which then economic, political relations and international support are strung together. africa, 1.5 billion population, that's decent. the second topic is the further dynamics of population growth, that is, the market will only increase in consumer terms. the next thing is huge resources, by many indicators. more than 30-40% of the world's reserves, and in great demand in metallurgy, in industry recently, and look at what kind of independent policy the african countries have begun to pursue, increasingly breaking away from the imposed before any agreements or arrangements, let's call it the countries of the collective west, there is more and more

aspiration to independently build their own life independently. their foreign economic policy, why is it interesting for us why might they be interested in working with us, we go there as partners, real partners, never the belarusian people, nor the soviet people have been to africa in india, never as a colonizer, we have always been there those who helped them build their economy, social sphere, infrastructure, unlike western countries, which always came there as a colonist, sucked out all the wealth, sucked out everything, that is, resources, and neocolonialism continues today, why so many people think, this is what happened with libya, how it happened, why this conflict in syria, in iraq, that is, at one time, why egypt is like this, then...