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every day we post the narrative of why the market goes up or down with a different set of fact. there is a chance that it is totally made up. last week we supposedly went down on higher interest rates and higher oil. today we got slammed in the morning despite oil and interest-rate both going lower. the dow gained 140 points. s&p inched up and nasdaq was up. we have people explaining the market decline as it was down most of the day by putting lower oil and lower rates. they made it clear that the combination of low oil and low- grade is just as bad for the market as high oil at high rates. this stuff is driving me crazy. it feels like it is a game of heads, the bears win. tales, the bulls lose. that's not right. when rates likely go higher we are headed for a slowdown. when oil goes up it is indeed

inflationary which pushes rates higher while sending stocks down. i except those as legit culprits for a down day. it makes sense to me but if interest rates and oil are both going lawyer, rates going lower means earnings could be going lower as there might be less demand for money and oil going down could be a sign of impending recession. you could easily argue that emand must be falling off a cliff. it sounds smart. the prevailing burdick for most of the day. it would also be total poppycock. nonsense. not in this show. we don't play that game on this show. not after all these years. i refuse to follow this ridiculous that pulls the public and fools u.n. makes people give up on the market in pure frustration because the whole thing makes no sense. you are right. it doesn't make sense. first, and old headline writer for his daily newspaper, myself, i can tell you the process is flawed. you need to shoehorn a days

worth of action into 30 words mac. the journalists needs to look at the scenario and pick what's make -- what makes sense. it might make sense for morning or early afternoon as today, but many of you take these as gospel that you don't know otherwise. i don't blame you. can have two opposing forces. higher and lower oil and higher and lower rates of the same space. it does not happen in real life and it does not happen in the stock market. these bogus explanations blend themselves to headlines. there has to be a headline. they can't say i'm sorry, the session doesn't want to sell on the short end. or they could get fired. everybody is in it already. so so what. second, remember the market is not a monolith. the reactions might be different if the inputs are caused by different reasons. let's take oil. last week oil was going higher. i think because of the sense that israel was going to want to ground offensive which

everyone assumed would get really ugly. something that might trigger a reaction by opec that would cause oil prices to skyrocket. people ported crude in anticipation of that. well israel did send some ground troops and that did not seem to be enough to trigger oil-producing neighbors into taking action. rightly or wrongly. i'm not trying to draw conclusions. how could oil decline? i think it was because the people that ported last week decided that they did not need it. more important to realize the true level of oil production may be too high. oil has been volatile since the israel-hamas story. there are ways that it could spiral and impact the market. hezbollah is now launching rockets and if israel moves in they could provoke a slashing production. the launch the missiles, i would not say they did not to a it that i would not get complacent about the price of oil plummeting.

next, you should almost never argue that interest rates going lower is negative or the stock market. people were fooling around this morning. this is really difficult, but if it was a court of law i would see the burden of proof is on those that the that lower rates equal it. you simply can't bequeath them like people did so glibly early today. one, higher rates can cause real damage in the stock market. the other, lower rates unless there's a cataclysmic risk almost never do. don't buy into that. when rates go own stocks and dividends become more of a bond -- bargain versus the competition. they can rally just on interest rates alone. stocks are worth more when inflation goes down because future earnings streams lead to more purchasing power. when the rates go down it could be a sign that the fed is about to cut short rates. we know that the market is desperate for rate cuts.

higher long rates obviously single the ops. anyone that has looked at the market selloff earlier today and said, lower rates are to blame, they did you a real disservice. they are the people keeping you from investing properly. how should they describe the action? in a perfect world, i think it would say something like this. despite a declining oil price and lower interest rates, stocks initially struggled as some major themes had them higher and were stymied. any stocks have been going higher because of the endless data center buildout that requires huge amounts of equipment and power. dell reported a number that was not in sync and nothing has contradicted them. given that the hyper scalars have money to build as many data centers as they need we have to interpret that this may be overblown. plus, we have a bear market in a once explosive enterprise. that is it. that's the headline. it is too long but that's what's going on. i don't actually believe that dell will be proved to be

correct. i believe there will be a lot more data centers but that is the explanation for the reason action. however, i would ask that we need to see eakness across the board for the fed to make a move. we need to see commodities lower which is the case of last five days, not just oil. we need to see commodities and lots of layoffs. we are not getting that and that is the problem. i do not want layoffs. you don't want layoffs but we need to see lots of layoffs. that means that friday when we get to the payroll report that could undo any perception of a slowing economy that we are getting from some of the data that we see. we just don't have enough information that wages are headed lower yet. today is what i call work in progress from the fed perspective. that is really how i want to leave this. you get a day like today it is a work in progress towards a rate cut. hence the rebound by late afternoon. we have days like that that include setups for rate cut but

that does not give enough evidence to move the needle. without enough evidence we can selloff briefly before finishing up slightly. that was today's session. i know it is prosaic. i know it lacks punch. it does not make things simple, but things aren't simple. if we try to make them simple we get you confused. i belong to the first general harm school of thought. that means i'm willing to smash the orthodox, the gel cell of 30 word headlines. the stocks that don't fit into that direction are probably the best opportunities. they are probably the wrongly valued distorted by a large seller or buyer that typically doesn't know how to trade in and out of something without moving it in annex offices -- excessive direction. there are screen -- traders out there with no skill set. the bottom line, when you see a headline explaining the days action it is not to be taken as gospel. they are way too simple to ever be treated as truly efinitive. they will not help you make

money. they will about losses or make you leave stocks entirely. let's go to mark. >> i would like to give a shout out to dolores. a wonderful lady who is working hard to recover from a hard fall last friday. >> of course. absolutely. we are all thinking of her. >> thank you. i am a charter member also of the cnbc investing club. i am really happy with the early : best buy. >> thank you. that was a good one. >> it still has a lot of room to run so you and jeff did well on that one. >> thank you. yes we got that one right. thank you. >> jim, i was watching squawk box this morning. i have to wonder if meme stock maniac could have a negative effect on one of our club stocks. rory kitty trades and i heard

they may have to expel from the platform. could this happen? if it does, if it angers some people could this put morgan stanley in a no win situation? >> mark, i was addressing that directly with david. we know you want more trading. you want that whole cohort. we want the wall street best people in and out out. i am concerned about that. i know it may not be big-ticket but it does impact the way people feel about a firm. i hope morgan stanley keeps them in and just teaches everybody to do a better job. that's what we want is teaching. sometimes the headlines explaining the days moves are right and sometimes they are wrong. please don't take them as gospel. tonight, astrazeneca shares some extraordinary data. where do we stand on the fight against lung and breast cancer? you don't want to miss that. don't miss my off the table exclusive with databricks. i am checking in with the ceo. the cisco ceo is joining me

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most important events of the year for the drug business. consider what we just heard from astrazeneca, the big reddish drugmaker that presented three data sets. two from lung cancer treatment and clinical trial results for a breast cancer drug bear working on. this led a very bullish investor day a couple weeks ago on the heels of a strong quarter in april. lets take a closer look with sir pascal soriot who is the ceo of astrazeneca. welcome to mad money. >> thank you for inviting me. >> people may not know, but when somebody does something incredible that is beyond belief they get a standing ovation. one of your drugs got a standing ovation. >> absolutely. at the asco, the american society of clinical oncology, is the biggest conference for cancer in the world. you have 40,000 specialist from around the world meeting in chicago and this standing

ovation you get from maybe 20,000 people standing up and giving you a round of applause so it is a very emotional moment everybody. >> a standing ovation would mean to me -- you can tell e i'm wrong. you've got a change of care that can make it so people who might have gotten a death sentence now might be able to live even longer than we never thought. >> absolutely. the standing ovation we had this time was for a certain form of lung cancer, mutated lung cancer which is about 15% of patients in the u.s., 45% in people of asian descent. essentially we had studies showing an 84% reduction of the risk of the disease progressing. really amazing results. >> people should know this is an unfortunately fast-growing cancer that is fatal. >> the beauty of the treatment is it is a simple pill.

you take this pill and some people are on the pill for many years. this is totally controlled. >> many of the analysts said that this was an equally amazing breakthrough. why don't you tell us about that. >> the hr 2 positive breast cancer is about 5%. it has been for quite some time treatments for this hr 2 positive cancer including our project, 75% of patients are negative and there is no treatment for them. so another sense of positivity for these patients removing chemo. giving this drug has also its own profile but is much better.

>> so those of you that have not suffered or had a family member that suffered and did not have chemotherapy means you can have a much more normal life when you are taking are of the somis -- this illness. >> absolutely. removing chemo therapy is really important for women with breast cancer.'s >> how did you come of it with this? you are investing in these categories to drive remarkable growth. it is kind of done without a lot of fanfare in america. you have transformed an industry. by the way, just so people know, you are not facing any loss of exclusivity. you do not have any patent cliff ahead. >> we have a few products losing patent not very many. how do we do it? we have fantastic scientists in the company and we have sites in the u.s. we are in boston, maryland, gettysburg,

washington, santa monica, san francisco, new haven. we have five centers. two large ones and midsize. we have a small presence in cambridge in the okay and these people are absolutely brilliant. >> people need to understand you have 13 blockbuster medicines. you expect by 2030 you will have 25. nobody else has anywhere near that. >> it is very exciting. we hope to launch 20 new medicines between now and 2030. half of those will be for cancer. the other half for rare diseases or cardiovascular disease. >> we should also mention the approach you are taking for the weight loss drugs. it is more methodical and it is not a blunderbuss, it is targeted. >> yes. essentially our strategy has always been to pursue science

and innovation and bring medicines to as many people as we can around the world. we are number one in the emerging markets. number one in japan and china. essentially we think if you want people to benefit from weight loss drugs it has to be an oral medicine. we have a small molecule medicine. >> no shot. >> we can bring it to people at a reasonable cost. >> i think it is important. and you -- when i was talking to you before right now you could bankrupt the system the way we have this. everybody gets on it and there's a lot of problems and it is expensive. you are talking about affordable medicine that will not break the system as we know it. >> they are great medicines. they may be more expensive but they also save cost to the healthcare system by saving people from being hospitalized, heart attack or other conditions. we want to make it even more

accessible to people not only in the u.s. but around the world so they can benefit. >> one thing that i think is rather remarkable about you guys is that you did not need to make the $80 billion regular new -- revenue target. i often discourage ceos from making that revenue target, but you have a level of certainty about it. what makes you feel that this definitely has to happen? >> we are in a difficult business. biology is complicated . we have a great level of confidence that e can get there. i think the target forces us to think creatively and be ambitious and stretch. so we are going to stretch. we have a large portfolio of existing products. several brought busters as he said. we have another 20 medicines to launch so we should get there. >> i asked this question, we live in an era where when you get cancer it will most likely

be chronic and not fatal. can that happen in our lives? >> i think the exciting piece and cancer is that science has exploded the last 10 to 15 years. what you see happen gives you hope that the day when cancer can be cured is not that far away. this can be turned to a chronic condition and then you have new technologies for therapy. of course, some of the medicines we are working on -- those therapies really give us a chance to cure patients. >> it is amazing to hear. your company is fabulous. that is pascal soriot, the ceo of astrazeneca. my bad that i did not bring this to your earlier. mad money is back after this. >> coming up, not just another brick in the wall. cramer goes off the tape for the latest on and ai data company worth watching, next.

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software company. it was number five in the disruptor list. today they announced a merger with tabular, another company. the original creators of two leading source energy platforms. so how is the business doing? let's check in with ali ghodsi, the cofounder and ceo of databricks. welcome back to mad money. >> thank you so much. very excited to be here. >> why don't we start with tabular. your company has done so many great things. they are two standards that don't work together but when you put them together they deal. >> if you backup five years we saw this market. people were locking their data into these warehouses. it was costing a lot of money and they could not even do ai. what we said five years ago was don't give your data to any other vendors. on your data and stored on cheap hard drives in the cloud

in a standard format. think of it as a usb and anyone can plug into the data and they can get the great analytics and ai. that is great. the market five years later, everybody has cost pressure. they are pressuring those vendors saying let us store it in the lake house format. what has happened is the format on the ground has been split into two factions. there is delta lake which we started and then there is iceberg which other vendors are pushing for. it is split and fragmented and causing a lot of headaches for folks. why we are so excited about this acquisition is it lets us bring these formats closer, remove the fragmentation, bring interoperability and break down the silos in the industry. we are very excited about it. >> do you think this will increase your customers dramatically. when we were looking at it we think it's kind of, cerner and epic they don't talk to each other. the big hospital management

systems. when you put them together it's a gigantic percentage of the industry. >> we think with this approach we can cut down the cost over the proprietary data warehouse spend 50, 60, sometimes 70%. there's a lot of pressure and i.t. departments. they say i have to let people go if i can do this. everybody wants ai and this is great because you have all of the data that enables you to do ai machine learning on the data. all day i am getting text messages from customers saying, this is amazing. this is the greatest news i've heard all day. thank you so much. we think this will make life better for enterprises. >> we had astrazeneca on earlier. they are an amazing company. may be the best in the world. so why do they use databricks? >> all these organizations have all this data. they want to do ai on it. there's lots of use cases. they can do discovery.

they can looking medical records. they can look at diseases and help cure diseases by coming up with better drugs. the issue is the data is proprietary. how do you actually start doing ai on it? we want to enable them to get access to the data in a secure way and start doing ai on it. if it's locked into different silos in the organization and not accessible by ai, the companies can't get to the value. to and on top of it they have to pay a lot as well. this is really lowering cost and bringing interoperability. >> with patent issues it is sometimes not worth the time. obviously this cuts the time to market. >> yes. absolutely. people right now are saying, look, i want to get my ai project introduction. i spent a lot of money but everybody is asking, where do we have these use cases? where do we see the prices and

services and the cost reduction and revenue? that is what they are saying so anything you can do to shorten the time to market is a massive value to the customers. more importantly they want to know, once the ai is in the products and services, how is it doing? am i getting value? a lot of people don't even know. it is facing customers and same things, but i don't know the quality. the evaluations and benchmarks is super important as well. we help do that as well nd we have a lot of announcements in our conference next week as well. >> that is your data plus ai summit. you do something that for a lot of us to our comcast customers because we work at comcast, we love our remotes. we used to hit the remote because we cannot find anything. i love the phillies so i say, put the phillies game on and it comes on. i did not know that i was talking to databricks.

>> that is when i first used cases. it is amazing. before ai was : everybody was talking about it this is a case that comcast developed. it is complicated because it has to happen in real time and it has to get it right or otherwise it upsets the consumers. it's been an amazing product in production and millions and millions of people around the world are using these remote controls and talking to it. >> it would seem to me, we have had other public companies like snowflake that have been on, it sounds like you offer a competitive system but you have certain advantages that clients might like. what would be a competitive advantage you have over a company we have in what a bit -- we have on quite a bit? don't want to slam them because snowflake s of polities. >> it's a great company. frank was a great ceo. what we do differently from

them is twofold. one, reduce your costs by leveraging open source so you can get the same kind of functionality much cheaper. that is number one and everybody cares about that. number two, we can do ai data. weekend forecast the supply chain. we can forecast your revenue. that is what sets the companies apart. snowflake traditionally has been more focused on classic analytics. i am sure they are pivoting and focusing with the new ceo on ai. >> you are absolutely right. i think it would be great to have you come public but at the same time to have you come public and what is and enterprise software market would be a bummer. can you hold out? >> i am not trying to time the

market. we will probably when it is at the max would not be so great. what i would say is we have seen revenues accelerate. you compare with the last few quarters. we are not seeing the trends you are seeing the market where everything is depressed. so we have really strong financials. a lot of that is thanks to ai. we hope this acquisition further accelerates things. i think there's a lot of good things going for the business. we are ready to go public. we have public audits done on the financials. we are set up the right way. it's not and question of if, it's a question of when it will happen. >> when you do databricks, it's not up to us it's up to you. there's a lot of people that use you and love what you offer. i want to thank you, ali ghodsi, for coming on again. what a great company you have. i hope you go public and come on mad money. thank you so much. >> always a pleasure.

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what will it take to get cisco systems? it is generally tough enterprise. today in an effort to change the narrative the company held an event announcing several new innovations and a billion- dollar fund. so far so good. the stock jumped today.

the stock is still down over 6% this year. it had a 52 week low this week. this ceo of cysto systems spoke to us to find out. welcome back. >> it is great to be here. good -- >> good, chuck. i was talking and watching jensen wong. he has a system he favors. he said, people want ethernet also. you have to have a partner with ethernet. cisco is that partner. >> yes. that is right. we started our discussions. jensen called me. i think i told you this before. it was in december of last year and we started working on what a partnership would look like. today we made the first announcement for enterprise customers with an integrated solution to help them easily deploy ai applications through a combination of technology, and video technology and

storage technology. it is very well received with a nice automation layer. we will be going to field trials and we are excited to get the solution out there. >> can you explain it to people that it's not like these are equal. ethernet is gigantic. it's what most companies use. >> there is really no other provider besides nvidia. every enterprise in the world, all the traditional cloud infrastructure is ethernet. that leads those enterprise customers, they want ethernet solutions over time because it is what they know. there's multiple vendors. they can create a competitive environment and it is standards- based. that's where we will see the market go over the next few years. >> so the global investment fund, is that saying you want to develop new projects others may not be able to afford? >> i think the difference with our ai fund that we put out

there is when we go invest with these companies we are sitting down and talking about a corresponding partnership so we can do codevelopment. it's not just an investment for return or to be an observer to see how this ai thing is evolving. all of these partnerships have an element of leveraging their technology to build something that will bring value to enterprise customers. >> i do want to get to this for a second. it was a big deal and there's a tremendous amount of cross sale. some analysts are saying that it is surprisingly diluted. i did not know is it that diluted? >> it is accretive in 26 and beyond. we close the deal six months early and we gave them some insight into what the next fiscal year will look like. i think there was confusion about how to model splunk . they would like to see the op-

ed much sooner but when you nt to take your time and do ou it right and make sure you are getting the technology integrations done. >> which customers are the most disruptive by ai? in a positive way. i'm saying we are getting pushed back those people are not hiring. you want to call center business that you got a while ago. some people say it will be lawyers that are duplicative and some say it is bankers but you have the best perspective. who stands to benefit from the point of you of replacing people with machines so people could be more productive? >> the way we think about it is the ai benefit is about being an assistant to the knowledge worker in a lot of ways. intensive knowledge workers, you mentioned lawyers, obviously healthcare industry,

researchers that are parsing through large amounts of data. the ai systems will help them be incredibly more productive. you also mentioned contact center. i think that is a horizontal application across many industries were you universally turn every first call will be taken by an ai agent over time. that is something that will happen in the near term maybe begin to be deployed in the next 12 months. those are some areas. >> i went back and forth about this let's a -- say you go see a doctor and a box. they don't follow-up but i would take a follow-up from an ai generated individual versus nothing. >> i agree. i heard that this morning when you are discussing with david. as long as that has been reviewed by another human before the follow-up occurs, i

think that is good. i wanted tested for competence over time. i think that once we have a high degree of confidence. >> i think we want you to be involved. we still think of business as one to 3%. lies that the case, you can do better than that right? >> i think you are aware we are doing an investor day. cisco live was not enough. i just came from there and we are actually going to give a longer-term framework in just a couple hours. >> it is down there because of this. i don't think that is the new cisco sense. you have a lot more annual

recurring revenue now. >> we set a target in 21 to hit 50% of our revenue coming by prescriptions by 2025. we deal with a lot of complex disruption over the last four years with supply chains. it is not giving clear visibility to the benefit of that transition. now that we are coming out of that digestion phase we talked about, i think having that much of the business coming from occurring and subscriptions will begin to show up in a lot more consistent execution. >> that is why the stock is too cheap. you know i'm an eagles fan and you're a falcons fan. tom brady? is he that great? >> i am going to do a fireside chat with him when we leave here. is a really good guy and our customers love spending time with him. >> you think is going to be the

best announcer on the get go? they have a big thursday game. >> i will tell you what is impressive. when you talk to him he spent a year perfecting the craft. he spent a year getting ready to go into the booth. he did not ant to go into the booth until he felt completely prepared for it. it's been fascinating talking to him about these things. it shows why he was so good at what he did every day because he prepared at a level that others didn't. >> i can't wait for it. i know you have a cleveland game. they are having that came early because he's doing it. i love the new guidance. that's what matters. chuck, have a great conference. >> see you later. >> that was chuck robbins. you heard what he said. 123% is not going to fly anymore. coming up, hit us with your best shot. and electrified flask fire -- fast by the lightning round is

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really good about central. >> how are you doing? i have booyah in your honor. my stock is $14 a share in january of 2020 and $450 a share in march. they cut the dividend in half with decreases shortly. the share price is over $15 a share with the dividend over 8%. does this have room to run? energy transfer. >> all of the things you describe are what made me dislike it. they rebuilt and you have a winner there now. they done a very good job. let's go to sebastian and florida. >> hey, jim. i have been holding snpi. are they the real deal? >> they are the real deal but why not holding video. they are the real fire power.

>> let's go to fernando in florida. >> sound hound. >> if nvidia had not put money in their i would say you should sell it. >> booyah, jim. how are you doing? >> i am doing well. booyah, brett. >> what do you think about -- >> it has made its move. sell it. lets go to dante. >> i have a little dilemma. i bought this stock a few months ago. it had a monster run. unfortunately i have something called diamond hands. i don't know how to sell. i don't know what to do. i'm calling about gev. >> it is a really good

situation. hold it. let's go to jeff in ohio. >> booyah , cramer. >> booyah, jeff. >> my stock is leonardo drs, a defense contractor for the government. >> that is really good. you want to hold on to that. that is where the government is going. let's go to nick. >> hello, jim cramer. here i am on mad money. it feels so wonderful to be here with you and get your advice. >> all right. you got me going there. aes, it is time to take profit there. that, ladies and gentlemen, is the conclusion of the lightning round. coming up, court is a great

place to avoid. why does johnson and johnson have a reason to smile? cramer puts his law degree to work, next.

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i celebrated for johnson & johnson last night the $260 million for the plaintiff, compensatory and punitive damages. so many verdicts and some bad headlines. each one pummeling the stock.

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matters. there cannot be 61,000 cases filed against the company want to own. you were betting the plaintiffs will accept the offer. and for some like the decision last night, it tempts plaintiffs to go for bigger settlements. although remember, that was for mesothelioma. plus, the prepackaged bankruptcy solution itself is awkward. they have set up a company that will pay off the claimants with no further damage payments from j&j. this would mean they would pay $6.475 billion. and that would not even be material. but they're not united. they may have holdouts for more cash or because they want their day in court. it is almost predictã impossible to predict. the fact the stock did not get hit tells me there's a good chance the settlement will be accepted. i would have accepted a three or four point hit. i'm not going to play litigation roulette, but i

believe j&j may have been able to control the plaintiffs to agree to something that is definitely a bird in the hand for them. and good news for shareholders that are always about to be head with one more bad j&j verdict. i am jim cramer, see you tomorrow. last call starts now. right now on "last call", is elon musk playing favorites? question swirling around a major order of nvidia chips. president biden trying to rein in illegal immigration but could it bring consequences for the economy? les, can money conquer death. the next big opportunity and an entrepreneur will join us. all that and more so belly up or buckle up, "last call" is up right now. ♪