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first it with the i think right now members that the legault household staff, also testifying against the bus. that is what multiple people -- classified documents investigation are telling, us and a cnn exclusive. they say federal prosecutors made calls with witnesses, a man who claimed the former president, bedroom a chauffeur, and a woodworker. people who might not get a lot of attention on trump property, but who see and hear a lot on the job. people who cnn has also learned have already been talking in detail to investigators. they are not likely witnesses. so our secret service agent sources tell, us and others in the room when the former president was captured on multiple -- apparently showing off a classified military document about bombing iran. >> wait a minute. let's see here. i just -- isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case. except it is highly

controversial -- see as president i could have declassified, now i can't. >> isn't that interesting? that is so cool. look, new probably almost did not believe, me but now you believe me. >> i believe you. >> it is incredible. it brings some -- >> we don't know who brought the -- but you will remember, walt nada, the man who once served as -- and who still works for him is now a codefendant in the documents case. joining us now showing a byline's katelyn polantz. what more do you know about who might be called to testify? >> anderson, it very well could be the person who brought the coast. we don't know who it was, but it could be that person who we do not know is a long list of potential witnesses in this case. we have been able to cobble together, and they are people who are notable people around donald trump, the presidency, after the presidency, after the, club and they are also people

who are moving in and out of the club, who might not have been that noticed by the visitors, who were, there or even trump himself. but the were people who noticed things. new things that they noticed, we heard about a woodworker for instance, someone who was installing crown molding -- and that person noticed a stack of documents that looked rather suspicious to him that he thought they were movie props, looked like ossified records of some sort. that person we were told does not actually know what he saw, but this is the sort of person who could be called to testify at this trial in florida to provide the picture of what it was like around mar-a-lago where all of these images that we have seen in photographs exist of documents and boxes. there were real people there in these spaces moving about a maid, a plumber, a chauffeur, as well knowing that something was off and thinking about that,

then relaying that investigators. >> have prosecutors laid out why they think these individuals would be a good -- they have, and anderson, and we don't know whether they will for sure be called to testify in this case. they might not be. our understanding is that the multiple, times some of them -- before a grand jury in this, case and when you look at them on the hall, it appears they are the people who provide this picture -- and the trump presidency, how trump himself was a functioning. and how trump was, behaving these classified documents may have, gone are the moved, who have touch, them and who may have been around them on a day-to-day basis. >> what is the former president's reaction into all of this. >> well one of the things we heard as poetry tonight we're reporting out this story was that he has been quite protective as his -- so mar-a-lago in florida, this club he spent so much time, at what he heard that the maid who cleans his bedroom suites was

someone that investigators wanted to talk to you and could be a potential witness in this case -- he went ballistic we were told. he has been quite unhappy whenever he has been approached by investigators. but the other thing that is important to note is how his luis are missed one for this. what is happening right now, anderson, they are trying to get this child pushed after the election next year. we are waiting to see what the judge does right now. it is set for may, she has said she's going to tell us if that date will hold, if there will be other dates that are moving. that is a really important thing. there is a difference here between these people that live in south florida, that work around donald trump and work at the club. are they going to tell their stories publicly before the election, or not? >> by the way, do we, know do they still work at the club? >> some of them do. some of them have left. as we were reporting the story, learning more and more about people who, left actually one person who was initially having

a lawyer from the trump legal -- and got a new lawyer with a cooperation agreement, with the prosecutors in this case to become a key witness, that person's name is -- he is still working at the club in recent months, and then left just because the start of the season was coming, around and he felt it was time for him to leave working at mar-a-lago. he put in his resignation, letter that trump was very unhappy he had stayed on as an employee at the club after he had been sharing information damaging to the former president with prosecutors. >> katelyn polantz, thanks. with me here, cnn senior legal analyst former prosecutor elie honing, and also cnn's kaitlan collins host of this was coming up at 10:00. -- >> this is a jimson arrow for prosecutors. let me explain why. ordinary in the federal system, when your, particularly about your case on the back of a cooperators, and who is part of the, crime list but guilty, who is now your witness. so what happens, the defense lawyer stand up in closing, and they say folks, you are going

to convict my client based on the word of a criminal, and then we prosecutor stand up and say to the jury, look, we love to call honest hardworking people to come in here and tell you about a crime, but that type of person is not on the inside of a crime. here they are literally on the inside of a crime. these are honest hardworking regular folks who had nothing to do with the crime. they are inside the, bedrooms inside the closet, even if they can't give the whole story eight to the, they can give importante dose they saw a box here or there. they heard a conversation. so that is the best-case scenario. >> is it clear what trump thinks of all this? >> they have kind of known these people were called in to speak to investigators. a lot of these people did not know what to do. you saw kaitlan just mention, they're still working, trump is not there in the summer, a start about this time of year, these are just regular people working these kind of day jobs. some of them have now been -- one of them named as a codefendant. some of them were still working there up until recently when he offered his resignation letter.

we were told, was it because that trump found out, but they kind of happened around the same time as one another. what kaitlan said about the -- >> -- lie can you be fired if -- >> you are getting cut as a witness of an investigation? i don't think they have liaisons to help that i have found out about. but the made part that trump went ballistic over finding out the made was asked to speak with investigators. i had heard that as well. part of it was because i was told it was a maid who often went into mole on asked trump sweet and clean that. anything legal which up that involves millennia, it irritates, him because then he is the one getting in trouble with her. >> cross-examination employees, i mean will they be tried to be painted as anti trump somehow? >> so the smart way to do a cross examination of a witness like this is just find out they have omitted knowledge. maybe so box in the closet, but you don't know how you got there, you don't know who to get, out he did not hear

conversations around. are you tried to limit the impact. what i think trump's team is likely to do is just claim that they are anti-, trump they have an agenda, i think the former is the more effective way to go here. i would not bet on them doing that. >> a lot of these people like trump. the work for him. they don't see him in the view of a political lens. yes he was the president, but he is their boss. he is the one who employs them at the club. so i think that is something with carlos, one of the other defendants named later on in the superseding indictment, that is an important thing to keep in mind. these are people who were pretty loyal to him in that sense. but they are not wealthy, they do not have a ton of resources, and they have been called before investigators. they can't exactly go out and just hire their own attorneys. a lot of them have trump provided attorneys. so that raises another question here as well. >> this makes it even better witnesses, they don't have an ax to grind with job. i also love the fact looking at this and prosecutors point of view, they are not high-profile d.c. insiders. they are not sidney powell, they are not mark meadows, they

are just regular folks. ultimately who you have to appeal to in a jury trial is the jurors who are going to have the same kind of jobs as the people -- as relate-able. to the lawyer point that kaitlan, raised this is a time tested trump tactic. he baseless own lawyers of, course but people around him, which naturally it is not illegal to do, that it is common. but it has the effect of deterring potential cooperation. these folks get subpoenas, they understand that -- at least some of them have done just that. >> what with the secret service agents -- >> this is an interesting question. this came up in the clinton investigation by ken starr in 98. ken starr wanted to talk to bill clinton service agent, it was litigated and fought in court. the core, said they can testify. there is not some special privilege or protection for secret service agents. so i think prosecutors need to be careful here. you don't want to create a situation where secret service agents are trying to distance themselves that they don't hear something that could be dangerous. but yes, if necessary, you can

get testimony from secret service agents. >> this may not even go to trial before the election -- >> she has hinted that she could push it past the election. judge cannon has. >> it is fairly likely should, as we are looking at a may trial date. we have a march day two months earlier on the federal january six trial, and i think what this judge doesn't want to do is make trump go to two trials essentially consecutive. >> all right, elie honig, thank, you kaitlan collins we will see at 9:00. also, kaitlan will be interviewing the former trump attorney jim trusty, for a cnn interview since resigning from the trump legal team. we will see that at 9:00. perspective on this, now last night's presidential debate chris christie -- former u.s. attorney governor. so cnn has reported that a plumber, a, made a chauffeur, and -- are among mar-a-lago staffers and contract workers who federal prosecutors may call to testify against former president trump as codefendants in the classified documents trial. does that indicate anything to you about the depth of the

prosecution's case? >> the breath and the depth of the prosecution's case anderson, as you, know i did this for seven years as the u.s. attorney, the fifth largest office in the country. we did over 130 political corruption cases without defeat. what you want to see on a witness list is a broad witness list that can -- every potential contingency, every potential exit ramp that the defendant may have to try and justify his or her conduct that you believe based upon your evidence is criminal. so i think what you are seeing is just how thorough jack smith's investigation has been. there is no one who has seen or heard anything at mar-a-lago regarding these documents who is going to be immune from testifying if they believe they have relevant information. >> cnn is also reporting prosecutors may -- people who were in the room at the new jersey golf club when he discussed allegedly the classified plan to tackle iran. how important would it be two

jurors to hear from those witnesses? >> very important, because as you know, donald trump has said that he was showing around some news clippings and not anything like that even though his words were contrary to that. so i figure you will need something to corroborate the tape. and the cooperation, the best cooperation will be the people actually at the table who can say exactly what they saw. he was a flashing around and showing them. so i think it makes sense to do that. if their evidence is as the prosecution has alleged, that is going to be a real problem for donald trump. >> there is a new york times poll from over the weekend showing as you, know that trump and -- five out of six eastern states the poll also indicates about 6% of voters potentially determinative margin would switch their support in those states from trump to biden if the former president was convicted and sentenced in a criminal trial. if trump is found guilty sometime next year before the nominating convention.

do you think the party would possibly change horses midstream? is that even possible? >> sure, because the process will not be over at that point. anderson. that is what i'm saying i'm in this for the long haul. i'm in this till the convention. because circumstances are going to change, change significantly. not only because of the trial that starts on the day before super tuesday, but there will be testimony coming out, paul throughout that period of time that will be extraordinarily damning of the president. my guess is my first witness would be mark meadows. not some rogue democrats prosecutor, not some product of the two tiered system of justice that donald trump talks about. but a founder of the freedom caucus of north carolina who served as this final chief of staff. he is going to be sitting 20 feet from donald trump, in the federal courthouse in washington d.c., and telling a jury under oath that donald trump committed crimes right before his eyes to try and overturn the 2020 election. that is determining type of

evidence and i believe i have said this the walls are closing in, he will be convicted, and you will see people change their votes and ran from him in droves, not only when the conviction happens, but as that evidence begins to develop and people hear it for folks like mark meadows under oath. >> he did not show up to the debate last night, but a new interview with univision, the former president reiterated his willingness to use the department of justice to go after his political opponents if he wins the white house saying, and i, quote if i have been to be president, and i see somebody who is doing well and beating me very, badly i say go down and indict them, and quote, that is according to a transcript released by innovation. it is unclear to me who he thinks he would be running against if you want another presidential term, since usually barred from being elected a third, time nevertheless do you have any doubt that is what a second term of the trump administration would, be a retribution? four years of retribution?

>> no. he has said i will be your retribution. think about how different, for all the folks out there who are undecided about what to do with this election, think about how -- in 2023 than he was in 2016. in 2016, at the convention, he said i am your voice. now he's saying, i am your retribution. this is outrageous. think about, it you had folks like bill barr who were keeping him on the rails, stopping him from doing stuff like this at the justice department. nobody is good and decent as honest as bill barr is going to agree to be donald trump's attorney general if he ever became president again. that is another thing for yourself to think about. the fact is, 40 of his 44 cabinet level official's house and not only were they not work for him, again they would not support him to be president at all again. this is incredibly damning for people who worked with him every day as president, anderson. >> country that can stop, him

when we have to stop him is right now. we can't let him get the nomination, or get in front of these folks, and you mentioned him not being on the debate stage last night. it is the third time in a row. it is disgraceful. i think he doesn't want to be, there anderson, because he -- knows i have been holding him to account since the money i got in this race. and a buddy out there who wants them to get onstage, go to chris christie.com, donie in dollar, keep me on that debate stage because it will be there what donald trump shows, up and you know i will hold him to account. >> we will take a quick break, i will talk to more about last night's republican debate miami minus the former president as i mentioned. also new video just in of american airstrikes on iranian targets in syria, was a closer report on the fighting in northern gaza from our oren liebermann who's embedded withth israraeli troopsps.

>> i want to focus now on the bay and ten pitch ahead in the iowa caucuses incumbent, charles to, governor you are called the former president in college for skipping yet another debate last night. clearly the strategy is not hurting with republican voters. isn't it smart for him not to show up? >> i don't care whether this mother, not it is wrong. it is wrong, anderson. he's asking for the republican nomination for president, yet he won't discuss his record. i understand why he doesn't want to. if i were out on bail in four different jurisdictions, i would not have to explain it. if i promise to build a wall and mexico to pay for, now call the people who believed them

for believing it, i would not want to explain that. i would not want to explain seven trillion and that when i would balance the budget. but you have an obligation to the voters to be able to do it. i know the polls show right now, it is not hurting him, but i believe it will as people start to get closer to this are going to make the decision to vote. i bet you in january, he will be in one of these, debates either in iowa or new hampshire, because the polls will force him to. >> you are heading to israel tomorrow, on the debate stage last night, he said the fact, this israel and their intelligence community failed to protect israeli citizens from the october 7th attacks. you were referring. would you want to see the israeli government to do about that failure? because -- -- the chief of intelligence services, that the military over there have. he has not. obviously there is going to be some sort of a reckoning once the fighting stops. what do you think that he should do, or they should do?

>> look, his first obligation, anderson, is to win the war. that is his first obligation. it is to protect the territorial integrity of israel, to make sure you protect the safety and security of his citizens, and to -- hamas that they can never do this again. those are his obligations. we are going to have plenty of time for an after action report, afterwards figure out how far up in the chain irresponsibility, goes and whether it includes the prime minister or not. in the and, we know it was a failure. there is no way that hamas should have been able to do that on october 7th, if the intelligence community was on top of the game. so we know mistakes were made, but the reckoning will come later on. first and foremost, it is to protect the territorial integrity of israel, protect the safety and security of citizens, and degrade hamas. what i also hope the government, does is keep our eye on the ball while they are doing this. continued isolation of iran is the greatest security move that

israel can make. that means continuing to make smart fair agreements with other arab countries and the middle east so iran and its desire to wipe israel off the map gets more and more isolated in the middle east. >> do you think israel should push towards some sort of a two-state solution? they have been playing with a tax revenue is going to the palestinian authority, and the west bank, which seems to be an odd thing to both be going after hamas and weaken the palestinian authority said they can't pay their bills, and -- their security people. >> well look, conversations of a two-state solution, anderson, had to have stopped. definitively, when a terrorist group in the gaza strip winds up attacking and killing 1400 of your citizens, and so there was a cease-fire that everybody is talking about now. me if -- >> it was hamas that violated

it. so look, i think there can't be any discussion right now about a two-state solution until you dispose with hamas's ability to be able to bring that terrorist attack again. then we can have more discussion. but right now hamas and did those conversations by taking the terrorist actions they took on october seven. >> new been critical -- but the former president. donald trump had nothing to do with virginia governor glenn youngkin strategy to have republicans run on a 15-week abortion man. do you think that issue could cost the gop the white house or control the house next year? >> it depends on who the candidate is for president of the united states, anderson. i made it very clear, my view is, -- and each state should be able to make its own judgment. the people of that state should be able to participate in that judgment. you saw it in ohio on tuesday night. the fact is, -- that is the way the founder set

up every issue that is not covered by the constitution, reverts to the states. and i don't think that the federal government should be involved in the middle of this in any way. as far as the losses in virginia, i absolutely believe that donald trump played a role in that as well. the fact is, that he is the front runner in this party. he is seen as one of the faces in this party, if not the face of the party until we replace them. and you saw what happened in kentucky, anderson, daniel cameron sold his soul, completely embraced donald trump, and in one of the most red states of this country, you lost to governor brashear. this is unacceptable stuff. i saw it in my own home state of new jersey, where the state -- republicans in my state lost five seats in the state legislature, the lower house, and one in the senate, and a lot of the campaign was geared towards going after donald trump. he is political poison.

he is electoral poison for anybody down the ticket. as mehmet oz in pennsylvania, ask herschel walker in georgia. you know, ask kari lake in arizona. these are all people -- they are all people who went the trump way, and are now not in office. we need to move away from him. he is the problem. he is the poison. >> chris christie, thank you for your time. >> anderson, always great to be on. love to come and talk to have to get back from israel. >> i would like. that thank you. up next, more on israel's war with hamas, or in lieberman was -- a first look at what gaza has become with israeli troops on the ground. that plus new efforts to get civilians out of harm way, that is just ahead.

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>> u.s. air strikes against an iranian facility in syria that took place on wednesday. senior military official says the facility was likely housing weapons used by u.s. forces on the region. an answer on gaza, this new video that just came to us, explosions over northern gaza, within a month after hamas slaughtered more than 1400

people, mostly civilians. after a military response has claimed 35 israeli soldiers according to the idf, and more than 10,000 palestinians according to the hamas-controlled health ministry. the white house said today, israel has agreed to formalize brief for our pauses in fighting daily in -- these are to allow to -- aid to, enter and civilians to leave. in a moment, we will be taken inside gaza by our oren liebermann, we should first note a journalist embedded with the idf and gaza operate under the observation of israeli commanders in the field. they are not permitted to move unaccompanied within the gaza strip as a condition to enter gaza under idf escort, at least have to submit all materials -- -- and cnn has agreed to these terms in order to provide a limited window into israel operations and gaza. here's oren's report. >> through the breach, we entered north on gaza at the border crossing. the land here once fertile

farmland is buried, trees that -- an inmate cover destroyed. >> smoke from an israeli strike is a stark reminder, this is day 34 of a war that makes much longer. on thursday, idf chief of staff and head of the country's internal security service entered gaza, promised strength through cooperation. >> everyone is doing everything, said the general, just so you can be a strong as possible. along our path in -- the science of a civilian life have given way to the constant hum of drones. distant echoes of artillery. our time with the idf began at coordination base for the border crossing, first international media to visit the site. the terror attack on october 7th hit hard here. scars of machine gun fire, rpgs still visible. the base was mostly empty on the holiday, but not entirely. the idf said nine soldiers were

killed here and three kidnapped. it took 12 hours for israel to regain control of the base. now, it's one of the main gates to gaza. a month into the war, more than 10,000 palestinians have been killed in israeli attacks on gaza, according to the hamas-controlled palestinian health ministry there. >> [speaking in a non-english language] >> the idf says 35 israeli soldiers have been killed in the strip since the start of the incursion. the october 7th attack by hamas on israel killed more than 1400 people, mostly civilians. we stopped at an overlook, near the town of jabalia. one of the things uncovered here on this hill near jabalia, it's a meeting point of three different tunnels. you can see, if you take a look, that's one, two, three. they came together here. and it let hamas move underground quickly, below their feet and out of sight. >> [speaking in a non-english language] >> colonel taal, the tank

commander, said there were many explosions here. many trenches. there were a lot of weapons and ammunition. we found a storage site with many explosives against tanks, rpgs, even from a distance of the scale of destruction is stunning. apartment buildings, homes, neighborhoods, decimated. >> [speaking in a non-english language] >> israel has said it has been circled gaza city as israeli troops make their way towards the center of gaza city, the idf spokesperson said earlier today, they are deepening their operation around gaza. anderson a, lot of that focus trying into get into almost -- a stay close in on the government and functioning military center for hamas in gaza city. >> oren liebermann, thank you so much.

perspective now from a political and foreign policy reporter axios. what is your impression of what warrants, not both on the military base that was attacked on october, seventh and the three tunnels converging there in the meeting point for weapons storage area near jabalia? >> i understand, you know, the irony is that this base and i heard three people who served there that for years this bases not only the and treat point from gaza but it is also the headquarters of the government coordination office, which is the unit that is in charge of helping palestinians get out of gaza for medical appointments and it runs all the workers from gaza that enter israel. this was one of the targets that hamas attacked during

october 7th. >> it is now pretty clear based on all the intelligence that hamas had about the inter workings of the kibbutz all along the border, that some of the workers from gaza who were working in those kibbutz, whether over, years or months, or whatever, they were gathering information. >> yes, that is definitely one of the things that our being investigated, and i guess will be part of this huge investigation that we will see after the war. although, i have to tell you something, if this issue came up in one of the meetings of the israeli security cabinets, and minister -- and ultranationalist said that israel should not allow 4000 workers from gaza who got stuck in israel after the war started, and maybe they were spies. ahead of the security services

told them, we vetted all of those people to the bone. we do not think they were involved in any way in the attacks. so i think it is still unclear how much those people were really involved in intelligence on the villages along the border. >> that is interesting. the people on the kibbutz certainly believe that -- they knew where the weapon storage war, they knew who was on the security details, how many keep security detail was, and other places. the humanitarian pauses, or these positives that israel now has. what are you hearing about them behind the scenes of how those were agreed to? that is clearly something antony blinken went to israel with. >> yes. you know, this would not have happened without let's say significant pressure from the biden administration. i think the serious discussion about started when blinken was in the region last week.

the israelis were concerned that when they heard the word paused from blinken, they thought what he really meant is a cease-fire. he took several days of talks between the israelis and the biden administration for the biden administration to tell them, listen, we are not talking about a cease-fire. we are not trying to stop you. when we say pause, we mean pause. we made several hours. we mean humanitarian aid. we made safe passage. we do not want a cease-fire. only after the israelis got convinced they started a serious effort to draft a plan to do it. they actually started doing it today, it was the first day they did it into neighborhoods in northern gaza. they announced a pause of four hours, they allowed people to get out of their houses, buy food, get water, get medicine which is something that did not happen for a month. i will tell you another interesting thing. if you asked the israeli government about, it the prime

minister netanyahu, minister of defense -- they will tell you that nothing happened. there is nothing new. they do not want to brag about those humanitarian pauses because it is a very political sensitive issue inside israel because the israeli public opinion is very much against that. >> and in terms of what happens if -- has the idf defines, it as the israeli government to find, zip it hamas is defeated, are there active discussions about what the post-hamas gaza looks like? i know netanyahu said there would be overall security, israel would need to be in control of overall security for sometime. but i mean, who is going to be the mayor of gaza? who will be running gaza? >> well, that is a very good question. and several ministers, or even

the majority of ministers in the israeli government -- they will tell you, we have no intention of bringing back the palestinian authority. then you ask them okay, so if not the palestinian authority, do you have any other ideas? so i think the israelis are still toying those fantasies and bring the egyptians, the saudis, the emiratis, all of those countries have no intention of setting foot in gaza, or paying one dime in gaza if it is not under the palestinian authority. i think when we get closer to the day after, this is going to be a serious point of contention. >> just quickly, you and i spoke about the israelis were holding up the tax revenues for the palestinian authority in the west bank. are they still doing that? >> they are still doing that. the palestinian authority told them, if you are not giving us all of our money, we are not even going to take half of it which is what the israelis were

willing to give them. i tell you something that i heard from several u.s. officials, that they say we made a mistake. when the israelis even started talking about this thing, we should have told him this is a red line. you are not going to do it. the u.s. did not put its foot in the sand, it did not say it was a redline, and the israelis did. >> thank you, appreciate it. just ahead, in addition to our top story about the former presidents legal troubles, also legal issues mounting for those who supported his efforts of the 2020 election. arizona's attorney general spoke to cnn about her investigation into the alleged fake elector scheme. -- the fake electors themselves, -- has an exclusive investigation next. also tonight, los angeles police investigating a fight between pro israeli and pro palestinian supporters outside the museum of tolerance after the screening of a film that showed footage that was taken by hamas gunman on october 7th

during the attack.

we know in our top story tonight, that some of the possible witnesses against the former president's classified

documents trial are, people whose names you may not know, but who were certainly in his orbit. and that is also the case in a another investigation, this time in arizona, involving the alleged fake electors scheme to overturn the 2020 election. the states democratic attorney general just spoke to cnn about the investigation, about what little is known, only that it follows in the path of some of prosecutions in michigan and georgia. our -- also tried to speak to some of the people who claimed to actually be electorates for arizona back in 2020. i'm going to show you how that went. here is her report. >> at a rally for the 2024 u. s. senate race. arizona candidate kari lake. >> i'm not going to let a guy who is trying to imprison his political opponent call me or you a threat to democracy. >> one of the country's top spreaders of lies about the 2020 election results. >> we find in her crowd, arizona state senator antony kirk. >> hi good to see you.

>> you may not recognize kern at first glance. >> but this is him here, at the signing of the deal tweeted by arizona republican party on december 14th, 2021. when 11 fake electors gathered weeks after the 2020 election, to sign this document, claiming to be duly elected and qualified to cast arizona's 11 electoral votes, for. >> donald j trump, of the state of voter, -- but trump lost the state of arizona in 2020. we are taking it very seriously. >> arizona attorney general chris mays wants to know more about these fake electors. >> we are in the middle of our investigation. we have multiple investigators, and attorneys who are signed to it. and we are going to do a professional job. >> sounds fairly robust. >> it's robust. it's a serious matter. >> back to anthony kern, who signed the fake elector document. >> can you tell me a little bit about signing?

it >> yet, we can probably talk. >> yeah. >> sunday. why >> not now? >> and every major turn of arizona's 2020 election lie, you can spot him. the guy back there? that's kern. this is a so-called election integrity hearing held by state election -- . fashioned to look like an official hearing. it's not. >> get on the ground. >> weeks later on january 6th, kurd traveled to the u.s. capital. in d. c. supporting trump, he tweeted, where he was pictured in a restricted area of the capitol steps during the riot. there is no indication he was violent, or entered the capitol, but that he has not been charged with -- the. later in 2020, one as arizona's most populous county -- hand counted all of his 2020 ballots in a partisan lead, failed attempts to overturn the state election results, anthony kern was there again, counting ballots. we wanted to ask state senator kern about how all of this began. >> can we talk about whether

you knew that was a lie? that document? >> why do you think it's a lie? >> so do you believe that trump still won in 2020? >> why would you think electors are a lie? >> arizona was among seven key swing states, who saw fake electors signing documents to subvert the electoral college process. prosecutors have filed charges against some of their fake electors in two states. michigan, and georgia. prosecutors arizona -- 's -- >> have been in communication with both of those offices, and i am not going to say anymore than that. >> what the department of justice are human? >> same, same answer. we have communicated with those offices, and i'm not going to say anymore than that. >> have you spoken to the department of justice, or the state attorney general? >> i, the only one i have spoke

to his cnn. >> we contacted all of arizona 's 11 alternate electors. lorraine pelino, secretary of the fake electors. >> hi, are you lorraine? >> yes. >> hi lorraine, my name is kyung lah, that is why i'm holding a microphone. i'm a reporter from cnn. >> thank you. >> i was hoping that we could talk. >> she did not want to talk. >> you don't want to answer anything about the alternate electors? ma'am? >> -- bauer, the ceo of right-wing group turning point usa, ignore our calls and texts. >> tyler? >> he is not here today. >> he's not in the office. >> but a spokesman immediately called us after he went to the office, to say he has not spoken to the doj, or the arizona doj's office. >> i am trying to reach senator hoffman, is he available? >> the rest of the 11 did not return our calls. >> hello, you have reached the number -- of. >> we did reach samuel morehead, the arizona republican county party leader. >> how are you doing today sir? >> oh, i am fine. but i also know that i am in a

position where it's not very prudent to talk to any member of the media, for anything. goodbye. >> arizona attorney general -- a democrat, says well she can't hear too many details of her investigation, she said it is far reaching. >> does your investigation potentially reach to donald trump? >> so, i am not going to comment on that. because that's sort of a part of the investigation. i am not going to provide any sort of mid stream updates on that. we will see where the facts lead us. >> and can law joins us now. how closely are arizonan official following the case in georgia? >> well az a. g. chris mays, didn't get to specific in our interview. but let's remind everybody about the recent stunning turns in the georgia case. you have ken chesebro, who was the architect of the fake electors plot. he already pleaded guilty to

felony conspiracy, connected to the plot. and then you have former trump attorney general jenna ellis. who also pleaded guilty, and she pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting false statements about the election to georgia's senate. that is a felony. now whether or not that has a nexus, or a connection to arizona at this point, we simply don't know. because they are in the middle of their investigation in arizona. we just have to see what the attorney general decides. >> kyung lah, thank you, appreciated. next, intolerance on display, the museum of tolerance. we will tell you with the latest destruction of violence in this country, after the october 7th massacre and.

>> police in los angeles investigating violence last night outside of all places that's what this museum of tolerance. stephanie elam with this report. >> clashes at l.a.'s museum of tolerance. over a documentary screened inside. the end to a night of intense emotion. >> i didn't watch all of it. >> the film, called bearing witness, had more than 40 minutes of actual footage of the october 7th hamas attacks. after gal gadot, who is from israel and has been outspoken on social media since the attacks, was involved in frequently film to l. a.. according to multiple reports. but she was not in attendance. and most of the roughly 200 attendees head left the event

by the time this brawl broke out, between pro israel and pro palestinian demonstrators. before the film even started, a small pro-palestinian demonstration from outside the theater, as lapd officers screened vehicles and circled that museum. some of the attendees say they felt compelled to see the atrocities with their own eyes. >> we need to fight against terrorism. and in order to see it, in order to fight you have to see it and believe it and feel it. >> -- people should know, and i can't know exactly what it was, unless i watch it. >> the hollywood reporter, which was at the screening, reports the protest was heard through the wall of the theater, prompting an israel defence foreces spokesperson, who introduced the film, to tell the audience they believe some are trying to cast doubt on the hamas attacks. saying, quote, i believe we are

hearing some of it right now, outside. the lapd said the event concluded with issues. but that one hour later, a small group of demonstrators returned, leading to the brawl. violence outside that attendees site won't overshadow the atrocities they saw inside, on screen. >> i will carry it with me to pass that story on, to the next generation, and the next generation. >> lapd did say they took two reports for battery. they continue to investigate this. but at that point, they don't have any suspects in custody. the l. a. mayor calling the violence unacceptable and calling on people here to really just calm down and stand together, as angelenos, in face of what we're seeing. anderson. >> stephanie elam, thanks. we'll be right back.