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marquardt. new hope for more than two dozen premature babies evacuated from a decimated hospital in gaza as israel tries to make the case that the medical facility was a hamas command center. plus, tech madness. openai now in turmoil after a chaotic 72 hours seeing its ceo fired and quickly hired over at microsoft. hundreds of workers at openai threatening to follow him. >> a heated courtroom showdown right now. donald trump fighting his gag order in the federal 2020 election subversion case. trump says it's about the first amendment and free speech. special counsel says trump is trying to intimidate witnesses. following these major developing stories and many more coming in right here to "cnn news central." we begin this hour with more

fighting at gaza's hospitals. israel's military says its troops target add group of militants after they opened fire from inside the indonesian hospital overnight. the head of the world health organization says he is appalled by the attack, which killed 12 people including some patients. that strike comes after the idf released video what it says is hamas terrorist activity as the al-shifa hospital. video shows what the idf alleges are hamas fighters rushing two hostages into that hospital after their attack op israel back on october 7th. >> and this. israeli video showing inside the tunnel shaft on the compound of gaza the largest hospital al-shifa. the most vulnerable out of the zone. 28 babies take ton egypt where they're fighting severe infections. >> take you to israel with cnn's jeremy diamond monitoring these

developments. israel repeatedly claimed hamas is using gaza's hospitals as sanctuary and command centers. do the new videos put to rest the counterclaims and allegations comes from hamas? >> reporter: certainly it isn't conclusive in the sense israel claimed for weeks hamas operates a massive command and control center below gaza's largest hospital, al-shifa. the evidence does show there is indeed a done on the grounds of al-shifa hospital. perhaps the most concrete evidence israeli put forward to prove out their claims. you can see in this video initially shot apparently by a drone going down into the tunnel shaft a spiral staircase ultimately leads to a lengthy tunnel. once in the tunnel, this video provided by israeli military, you can see the curved ceiling very typical of the tunnels that hamas has built underneath gaza. dozens of miles of which exist. end of it you get to a door,

which israeli military says has yet to open, because it fears it may be boobytraped. perhaps what lies behind the door will prove out the israeli military evidence, but as of yet, we have not. facing condemnation for a strike, israel is, on the indonesian hospitalized in gaza apparently killing 12 people according to local health authorities, who say they among the dead are patients of the hospital and at least one medical staffer. the world health organization has condemned this attack saying that the head of the world health organization saying he is appalled by this attack. the israeli military fo its part faced gunfire from militants within the hospital insisting it did not shell that hospital. >> jeremy, we've been doing reporting about potential release of hostages beld by hamas here in washington. heard optimism, cautious optimism, biden administration saying things appear to be

farther along than at any previous point. what are you told? >> reporter: the most optimism we've heard in the last few weeks of negotiations, but to hear in israel certainly a lot of caution put out in the sense that, look, they recognize that they are getting very, very close to a potential deal, but until everything is agreed to, everything could still fall apart. nonetheless, as you mentioned, there is a draft of a potential agreement that indicates that hamas could release 50 hostages in initial stage, likely women and children, and that israel would agree to a four to five-day pause in fighting, but several things still need ironed out including mechanisms of this release and exactly how long the pause in fighting would actually last and how it would be coordinated. still details to be ironed out, but, again, whether you're listening to the qatari prime minister, this weekend said they are closer than ever, or the deputy national security advisor, it certainly appears

things are moving forward in a positive direction. >> even if 50 hostages were released only around one-fifth of total held by hamas. jeremy diamond, terrific reporting as always. thank you. straight to cnn's eleni gee coase in cairo. neonato babies from gaza, arrived in egypt. long journey from the gaza strip gut getting care needed in egypt. what are you learning about their condition? >> reporter: finally getting the care they need in egypt. egyptian health authorities waiting for these neonatal babies over a week and prepared resources at the border, but, of course, as we've heard in terms what's happening at al-shifa hospital and just how dangerous it was to leave the hospital, they were unable to evacuate. initially, 36 babies egyptians were expecting. doctors in al-shifa say five of those babies died.

i want you to describe conditions experienced. lack of oxygen. no food in the hospital. water. one mother that was with her baby in the hospital saying that they had run out of milk. we saw the images of the babies carried by hand, moved from the neonatal ward inside of al-shifa into yore section of hospital and put just on a bed. they were using hot water bottles to keep them warm. talking about very dangerous conditions. very vulnerable patients. eventually a safe area created moved to a hospital and stabilized. doctors said very stressed, various tests runs and interventions given yesterday and finding their way through the border met with ambulances and taken to hospitals in egypt. hearing from sources here, that the very severe cases will be flown to cairo. that the babies are very underweight. the w.h.o. said 11 of the cases

are critical. they are all going through severe infections because they weren't given proper care in al-shifa. when we say 28 babies, we're talking only about four parents that accompanied those babies and six nurses. the patient now becomes, where are their parents? where are their relatives? international organizations will dig into that to try to reunite the kids, but maybe are fearing the worst at this point, because we know what has been happening in northern gaza. impossible to move the patients elsewhere. also we know a lot of other injured palestinians in al-shifa now and arrangements are being made to try to move those patients. meantime here in egypt taking in as many as they can. they can accommodate more. priority now all about these babies to get them stabilized and given the care they need. >> glad they're on that path. aleana giokos, thank you.

joined now by a foreign policy advisor to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. thank you for joining us today. appreciate it. there was this meeting today between the prime minister and families of some of the hostages being held by hamas in gaza. one person who met with netanyahu, daughter held by hamas, says concrete questions we expect them to answer. every deal or any stage in this path doesn't excuse anyone from their responsibility to return all of the hostages home. a lot of anger, as you can hear directed at the prime minister, for his handling of the hostage crisis. do you believe we are close to seeing at least some of those hostages released? >> thank you, alex. thank you for having me. obviously, i can't get into details of the negotiations. what i can say, actually, the meeting is being carried out right now with the families, the

prime minister is meeting with the families right now. i can't get into details about negotiations. what i can say is that the prime minister, netanyahu's war cabinet, gave two clear missions to the idf. one, destroy hamas and the other to free the hostages. those two missions are not mutually exclusive. they actually complement one another and the more pressure that the idf has put on hamas the closer we are getting to a deal. that's the closer we will get to a deal and the more pressure idf puts on hamas. >> we understand and are reporting -- >> i think that -- sorry. >> sorry. go ahead. >> i'm saying i think what we should clearly say is, and anybody who's candidly and genuinely concerned about civilian lives should call for immediate and unconditional release of all the hostages. there are almost 240 civilians being held hostage. >> right. >> for over 40 days. including babies. including a 10-month-old baby.

the world should be crying out "free it the hostages." doing that 24/7. >> i understand you don't want to talk about specifics. we have reported some of them. we believe, we understand, if there were to be a release of around 50, the hostages, there would be a four to five-day pause in fighting. on the other side, do you believe that palestinians in israeli custody, women and children, civilians, would also be released as part of a deal? is that one of hamas' demands as you understand it? >> clearly, alex, as i said, i can't get into any details. i can tell you that the only thing that has facilitated a deal or getting, to get us closer to a deal, is the immense pressure that the idf is applying on hamas. hamas didn't believe, few believed, that israel, that the idf would go into gaza.

we went in to gaza. few believed we'd go into their terror tunnels. we went into those terror tunnels. few believed we would go into the shifa hospital where they were conducting command and control terrorist operations. we went into the hospital and we found an abundance of ammunition and of weapons and we found a control center two floors down. we found terror tunnels from the parking lot adjacent to the hospital that runs underneath the hospital. we found all of this. the world sees what we're dealing with. all right? we are going to -- we're going to meet the mission. the mission will be accomplished, which is, one, to destroy hamas, and, two, free the hostages. we've already killed over 5,000 hamas terrorists. all right? and we're going to finish this mission. it's what the idf is doing today, it's unprecedented in modern military history. >> right. >> unprecedented. >> right. the world has not yet seen, for what its worth, evidence of that

command center. we understand, heard the idf say more is coming and seen that tunnel. i want to the ask about another hospital spoken about, al-shifa, another, an indonesian hospital in gaza that came under attack overnight. 12 people killed, including patients. we know that the israeli military said we were responding to fire coming from the hospital. but, sir, i ask you, even if hamas militants are in and around these hospitals, how does israel's military feel comfortable firing at the hospital, knowing that civilians could be killed? >> well, alex, i've got to tell you. any civilian casual is a tragedy. any civilian killing is a tragedy. the 1,000 israeli civilians murdered, butchered on the 7th of october, the men, women and children. the children that were beheaded. babies burnt alive, that's a tragedy. and civilians are being killed

and losing their lives now is also a tragedy. all civilian casualties are on hamas' hands. the firing that came out of the hospital yesterday was firing of terrorists shooting at our troops and we returned fire. that is the playbook out of the hamas playbook that they use hospitals. understand this, alex. they use these hospitals as command centers. they're not hospitals. they're command centers for -- >> i understand. but does the that justify. you're putting israel on the same footing as hamas. does that justify them firing back even if used as human shields? >> let me make this clear. israel is in complete compliance with international law. all right? now, the pro pportional respons to the october 7th massacre is to destroy hamas. so the hamas will not be able to attack anybody again. that is the proportional response.

anything less than that would not be proportional. now, in the course of destroying hamas which is what the idf is doing right now, we are distinguishing, making a clear distinction between civilians and terrorists. now, the hamas purposely target our civilians, and hide behind their civilians. they burnt our babies alive, and they are hiding behind their babies. all right? we are in complete compliance with international law, with proportionality, distinction and there is a clear military necessity to destroy hamas, and that is exactly what we're doing. not only for our good. israel is on the front line for swivelization, but if we god forbid, the west is next. >> and if you're asking, talking about pro pogsality and pro pogsal response, no one doubts the horrors of the more than 1,000, 1,200 we understand

israelis killed october 7th. now the death toll in gaza is over 12,000. around half of them, i believe, are children. thousands of children, you just mentioned have been killed. so how is that a proportional response? >> right. actually i don't know if the number, right. take them with a grain of salt if coming from the hamas ministry of health. even one child is a tragedy. even one civilian is a tragedy. they are all on hamas' hands. all of them are on hmahamas' ha. urging civilians to get out of the way. thankfully 1.1 million are out of to the southwest of gaza, a safer zone, while hamas is trying to hold them back. hamas-isis organization, they're actually worse than isis. >> they would argue displaced by fighting. told by to move.

i believe around 1.7 million people. >> i think it's 1.1 or 1.7, not sure, but we want all of the civilians to get out. >> let me ask you this. you're in line with international law you say. this question put to the biden administration no one in the biden administration has said that israel is actually following international law. even if that is legally justified, isn't there a moral question about firing on these hospitals, where there are patients who cannot be moved or for who are it is very, very difficult to move them. now 12 people killed in the latest strike at the indonesian hospital. >> right. again, alex, say it for i think the third time. all civilian casualties are on hamas' hands. you made good point. morality. this is a moment of moral clarity. either you are with the civilized world or you are with hamas savages that killed, slaughtered over 1,200 people. men, women, children.

beheaded children. burnt babies alive. and the only proportional resons, as such a thing. not a revenge, but to prevent anything happens again from hamas is to destroy hamas. there's a clear, moral question. are you on the side of civilization? on israel's side? or are you on the side of the hamas savages that behead children and burn babies alive? >> yeah. i just, i think there's, there is a question about the proportionality and you have heard widespread condemnation from all kinds of human rights organizations, from the u.n. about how israel is prosecuting this war. the world health organization condemning the attack on the indonesian hospital and the argument that you just made is essentially that israel has no choice but to respond like this military, even if civilians are in the way?

>> actually, alex what i'm trying to say is that israel and the idf is seti a gold standard in modern military warfare. there is no military on earth that is more moral than the idf. we are prosecuting this war as the most moral prosecution of wharf of war ever. not doing carpet bombing, dressing attacks or anything of that sort. doing it diligently. our troops go in very diligently. over 60 of our best -- our best soldiers have been killed. the best people on earth have lost their lives. these are future nobel peace prize winners that lost their lives. all right? prosecuting this war. >> right. >> now, the u.n. is dana bash go ahead, alex, sorry. >> no. going say, the area bombing for weeks now extraordinarily

intense. thousands of -- of palestinian civilians have lost their lives. and there have been more than 1 million people displaced. i understand that the point you are making. there is some, you know, some criticism. certainly of, you know, the way israel is going about this and the lack of concern for the palestinian civilians that are getting caught up in, in israel's efforts to take on hamas. >> well, seems to me that israel is, sometimes seems to me we're the only ones concerned about the palestinian civilians. the only ones that would take such care and precision targeting of terrorists throughout this campaign. we actually are receiving a lot of support from our allies. we accomplppreciate the biparti support from the united states and united kingdom and other allies. the largest demonstration rally in israel was seen the other day

warming our heart. strengthens our soul and we know that we are on the right side of history. >> appreciate your time. we have to leave it there. thank you. >> thank you, alex. thank you. chaos at openai. one of the leaders in our artificial intelligence facing an uprising after the board gives the former ceo the boot. now he is already at "market call." plus, today donald trump fighting his gag order in the federal 2020 elections subversion case. trump said this is about free speech. the special counsel says trump is trying to intimidate witnesses. what the judge is saying about all of that, next.

a weekend of absolute chaos for what many call the most promising, one of the most promises companies of our time. openai. maker of chatgpt with billions of dollars backing from microsoft is now in turmoil after the board fired its co-founder and ceo sam altman on friday. 72 hours later altman is now an

employee of microsoft and hundreds threatening to fire him 23 the entire board doesn't resign. employees outraged add details of altman's firing remain murky. altman wasn't sufficiently candid with the board but didn't delve into specifics. >> now microsoft, a huge partner of openai coming out as a big winner. the ceo nadella already hired altman himself and some of his co-workers. and microsoft says it is still admitted to its partnership with openai helping microsoft stock hit a record high just today. remember, this is not your average corporate reshuffle. openai is a powerhouse in the tech industry pioneering tech once thought to be scientist fiction. it can create art, build websites and basic descriptions you give it.

essentially it teaches computers to be smarter, more human-like than ever before and do complex tasks normally involving groups of people and do those tasks in seconds. >> and kara swisher hosts of the podcast and co-host of pivot podcast. this is a mess. talking to sources all weekend close to this. >> yeah. >> tell us where things stand now and step back and give us the context what it means for a.i. more broadly? >> stepped away from my phone five seconds and don't know what's happening right now. the employees this morning, i reported, had gotten together, writ an letter saying the board was incompetent and going to leave and work for microsoft if they didn't step down and bring in a new board and bring back sam and also a guy named greg brockman, who left with sam amp he was fired. so i don't know where it stands. microsoft will create a new

division. certainly has an investment in openai but doesn't have to give it all its money if it doesn't keep up with commitments and it's really hard if 500, 600 people of a 750-person staff leave a company to keep its commitments. it's in a crisis and this board has to step down. i don't think it has any other choice. >> with that change, would it change anything? if the board changed down? any way to reverse course, altman come back to openai or is the dye cast? a member of microsoft now? >> like a multiplayer game. i don't know what could happen. could come back. get a board seat, control, change the government structure and sam altman fully in charge. openai just let it go and -- a.i. -- to do whatever it wants to. certainly a victory for nadella

who handled this. stock killed friday and now, of course, rose quickly, and he managed to finesse a really bad situation by a board i'd have called incompetent. agree with employees of openai and does need to step aside how they handled this. might have disagreement but this is not how -- one of the most important companies of the a.i. age, at least. >> zero in on the disagreement. new company, ceo third in three days calling for investigation into altman's firing. what ultimately preceded his firing? what was the disagreement? do we know? >> i do not. tried to get that out of them. one of the issues. lack of transparency. kind of said he was a liar, but then didn't say what he lied about and they wouldn't be open about it. one of the people who led the firing has now recanted saying that he supports sam altman. signed that letter, which was weird. the chief scientist. a well-regarded technologist and

was right in the middle of it and suddenly he wrote an "i'm sorry" on x this morning. so i don't know. i guess -- i was joking. like the taylor swift song, "hi, it's me. i'm the problem, it's me." that kind of thing. i don't know what's going to happen to this board. there's now three people left and we'll see what they do. i think if they don't step down, you can't operate a company without employees. i suspect this morning it was 505 of them. i suspect it's very close to the whole company leaving. >> yeah. potentially huge implications for one of the front-runners leaving in a revolutionary technology. >> yeah. issue, misalignment between his vision and theirs and wasn't fully forthcoming about that. they could have handled this ten different ways instead of just firing him. could have had a meeting, or et cetera, et cetera. instead took this rather -- they're very -- they're very

concerned about safety and everything else, but then wouldn't give specific issues saying it wasn't a specific safety issue either. who knows? it's the worse performance of a board i've seen in a very long time and it's a low bar. >> yikes. keira swisher, thanks for breaking it down with us. >> thanks. still to come on "news central," will the gag order on former president trump stay alive? a hearing happening right now on this. we'll tell you what the appeal judge's grilled trump's lawyers on. plus take you to iceland. officials say could be a matter of days before a massisive you haveve tavolcano ereruption. stay with h us.

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at a hearing today an appeals court appears ready to limit the speech of a former american president and largely restore a gag order on donald trump. now, this involves the federal criminal case against trump alleges he conspired to overturn the 2020 election. the order frozen as touch's attorneys try to get it fully lift saying it violates hi free speech. >> the gag order hall him not talk about the special counsel, the judge and his staff. following the hearing, evan from your viewpoint, appears the judge is likely to geekeep the order in place? >> reporter: you can tell, hear from the prosecutor the way he talked to judges he understood perhaps they should try to find a way to modify some of this, to

make it more acceptable, but at least have the judges have something they can live with. because of the broadness of this. a criticism trump's attorneys made in court today the language is very, very broad. very dubious, to say the least. right? the idea that the word "targeting" for instance. what does that mean? the unprecedented nature was something that he, john sauer, lawyer for the former president, focused on the idea that the one of the leading candidates "the" leading candidate according to some polls works have his speech filtered, restricted, by a jump. listen. >> the order is unprecedented and it sets a terrible precedent for future restrictions on core political speech. this is a radical departure from the only cases considered this particular form of restriction on a critical defendant running for public office and does so in the context is a hotly contested

campaign for the highest office in america. >> and, look, all three judges on this appeals panel were very skeptical of the broadness what he was trying to push on. one thing they pointed out was this really wasn't just about the first amendment. there is an interest for the court to preserve a fair trial. right? not to taint the jury pool, and to protect the safety of the people on the jury and so on. >> and speaking of the jury pool and their safety, the judges did express concern for them. what did they say? >> right. a concern of the judges, asking, again, a hearing went on much longer than we 'anticipated. one of the questions, the idea byjurors which begins in march, the former president could get their docs and asked prosecutors whether

there's a way to protect that. the prosecutor said there's really no any technological way all of the information of potential jurors in this case. >> really fascinating stuff to watch. we'll see if it ends here. perhaps if it continues all the way to the supreme court. >> exactly. >> evan perez, thank you for the reporting. a so-called calm before the storm in island where officials warn could be a few days before a volcano erupts. cnn is on the ground. we'll take you there in just moments.

welcome back to "cnn news central." other headlines we're watching this hour -- today in mississippi dexter wade

late to rest again. second burial. his mother reported him missing but did not receive word he was deceased and buried in a pauper's grave behind the police department until six months later. the jackson police department says wade was struck by a police cruiser but failed to connect the missing person's report with his death. police claim no ill-intent delaying notification of next of kin. the family wants the justice department to investigate. in italy, 207 monsters sentenced today to a total of 2,200 years in jail. 2,200 years. the trial was head in a bunker with a panel of judges under police protection. this is the largest mafia trial in the last 30 years of italy's storied history with organized crime. also, argentina over the weekend elected a new president. a political outsider who's been compared to donald trump. javier won 55% of the vote

promising to break up the status quo in that country. argentina has one of the world's highest inflation rates and the new president's campaign swap the peso for the u.s. dollar. a fishing town in iceland staying on high alert with possibility of a major volcanic eruption at any time. the town has around 3,400 residents now evacuated. people only had brief opportunities to go back to their homes and gather personal belongings. cnn senior international correspondent fred pleitgen now reports from iceland. >> reporter: the islandic area again reiterated a high likelihood of a major eruption occurring in this part of iceland. we're seeing on the ground a geothermal power plant at also a town that could very much be effective. that's definitely something the government is prepares for. what we're learning. nature's brute force punching

through the ground, cracking roads and houses here in southern iceland ahead of what could be a massive volcanic eruption threatening the entire town. residents are on the run. like paul peterson, who evacuated his wife and three small children. >> had to leave quickly? >> yeah. friday night. >> what was that like? >> it was horrible. >> reporter: island is in called a hot spot where magma often breaks through the earth's crust, which can result in massive eruptions. what happens here can affect large parts of the globe. no 2010 ash spewed into the atmosphere by a volcano here and brought transatlantic travel to a standstill for weeks. iceland's government says this time results could be devastating with a geothermal power plant nearby, which provides energy to iceland's main international around and

the possible path of lava. authorities here are high hi concerned about the town and vort, it's been evacuated a few days ago but also about the geothermal power plant in this area and working 24/7 to try to dig a trench to redirect the lava if it comes to the surface. government experts here acknowledge they're not certain the trench would prevent lava from damping the power plant. the main problem isn't even the size of the possible eruption but the fact it's so close to urban areas, geophysicist magma of the university of iceland tells me. >> it's so close to the town here and the power plant, and that is the main concern that it could damage one or both of these facilities. >> reporter: because the eruption could happen any time, the residents can only return for a few minutes on some days to retrieve personal items from their homes. >> are you hopeful about the

situation that maybe the town will be spared if the big eruption happens? >> regarding our house? no. not really. because the lava tunnel is laying very close to our house. so we are expecting to lose everything, if it will erupt. >> reporter: the people in this part of iceland absolutely stoic in the face of adversity they face and live with the threat of volcanic eruptions all the time in this part of the world and the icelandic government believes if a big eruption occurs it's a matter not of weeks but of days. >> scary nerve-racking prospect. thanks to fred pleitgen for that report. still to come, planes, trains, automobiles. millions of americans on the move for thanksgiving. some of them, many are already. we'll tell you how much patience you should be packing. stay with us.

the tsa has predicted a record number of travelersgivin holiday. aaa is predicting the busiest thanksgiving in years. the timing of a storm couldn't be worse. >> how are things shaping up? >> the severe weather is terrible news. this is going to impact tens of millions of americans, on some of the busiest travel days we've seen here in the united states. experts are predicting around 49 million people on the roads between wednesday and sunday. and 30 million fliers over this period we're into around the holidays. for folks on the roads on the east coast, as the storm comes in tomorrow, we're expecting a

lot of extended rainfall that could create not just basic traffic but dangerous conditions, more crashes on the road. could amplify what we were expecting to see, these stoppages. a lot of people look at their schedules, i don't want to travel in the middle of the storm. wait until wednesday. but that's peak travel time. that's going to cause more backups into wednesday. up and down the east coast. and so, what we could see is this trripple effect. more disruptions, more traffic all the way until thanksgiving day. for air traveler, we expect that the rain could mean disruptions at major airports up and down the east coast. atlanta, d.c., philadelphia, boston, new york. and we know the faa system is strained all year. they're down around 3,000 air

traffic controllers. the department of transportation says the best they've been in years. and still, the agency just this morning, looking at this forecast said, we expect there could be delays. we expect there could be cancellations. people need to be ready. not just here on the east coast. if we get cancellations here, they get strastranded, they can get to the next flight. there's 50,000 flights scheduled just wednesday, across the united states. this is a time when tensions run high at airports. people trying to get home to family. they want to see loved ones. since the pandemic, there's been a surge in harassment and attacks of aviation workers, airline workers. just this morning, secretary pete buttigieg spoke about that issue. here's his message to travelers. >> we take the incidents very

seriously. we refer them to the department of justice. in addition to it simply being the right thing to do, know there's a lot of enforcement behind our expectation, that all passengers will treat all flight crew members with the respect they deserve. his message, be patient. and the bad news may not end when the turkey is served. the cnn team is looking ahead to sunday, which could be the busiest travel day in u.s. history. they're looking at the possibility of winter weather on the east coast. be prepared and day attention. tens of millions coming home. >> the making of a holiday travel nightmare. they should pack the patience, would you say, gabe? >> he was trying to avoid saying that. >> i didn't want to say it. >> we stole your line. >> gabe cohen, thank you so much. we're getting close to the end. national security spokesman john

kirby says a deal for israeli hostages is near. we have details on that straight ahead.