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[b[birds chirprping] [suspenseful music] ♪ - i'm m just gonnana tell you the e whole storory. so i i had the $ $50,000 debt becacause of thehe taxes. i was s screwed. jerry's dedead. i'i'm left hololding the b b. ♪ and i memean, i don'n't hae $50,000 0 for the irirs. i'm nonot going dodown like th. i i was just t thinking, "okay, i g gotta dodo somethingng here. i gotta a do somethihing." ♪ i cacalled the i irs, and i sasaid, "listeten, "i k know you knknow i owe $ $5, but i i have a stotory for yo"
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so i t told the irirs ththe whole ststory verbatat. ♪ now,w, it might't've been a year l later, my accouountant, wewe were talklking, and.... he said,d, "you knowow, you're thehe reason why all l this went t down" i sasaid, "what?t?" he s said, "yeahah." becacause they r reported it to thehe fbi or whwhomever and itit just buststed wide on afteter that, but i had d no idea. alall i was trtrying to dodo wt myself o out of a $5$50,000 de. ♪ and the next thing i knew, everybody is being investigated. i was kind of scared coming out with this. i didn't want anything to happen to me, 'cauause i've cocome a long g, and d i don't wawanna evever go backck. anand so i wasas kind of h hest about ththis whole m mess. and i meanan, 'cause w when you'u're quiet f for so long about thinings that t took a turnrn and d you didn't't know why it tooook a turn,,
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[doorbell chimes] - he was n not at hiss lawrwrenceville e home today, the man n neighbors s here have jokiningly nicknanamed. - - called himim the hambubu. - ththe fbi saysys 58-year-d jerorome jacobsoson wawas the ringngleader whoho . - there e was a lot t of publiy on t this case a at the t. there e was an enonormous amot of p publicity. - the prpress was alall arod the hohouse, on ththe stree. - i'd d get phone e calls continuoususly. all hours s of the nigight, theyey would calall. - jacobsonon providedd the winnnning game p pieces toto his frienends and assssoc, who acted d as recruititers. - we w were totalllly exhaust. it j just took s so much eneny toto get out i in the publbl. - the e fbi believeves thosose recruiteters passed o on the tickckets to r frfriends and d relatives. - so w we had thisis big builp of t the case
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in anticicipation ofof the tri. - eight pepeople who w worked for the e company that r runs mcdonanald's gas likeke monopolyy and d "who wantsts to be e a millionanaire?" are ununder arrestst, charged withth rigging t the games... - peoplele who run t the mcmcdonald's m monopoly gagam. - - if you're e just tunining, breakiking news hehere onon 1010 winsns. a planane has crasashed into the w world tradede cen. uh, thisis happeningng just a matter o of minutes s ag. ♪ - - after 9/1111, you knowo, eveverything c changed. so this mcdonald's story just vanished. - it did v very quicklkly get t eclipsed.. all l right, we'e're under a . and you u kind of snapped d out of it.t. - ththe world chchanged, and what w went frfrom being a a case that t the entire e office and othersrs wewere, you knknow, fefeverishly w working onn kind of f went back k to primy jujust doug anand rick. many, , many of usus were, you knowow, immediatately cha. you wewere now a t terrorism t
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and workining, you knonow, all l day, all n night on tht. [b[birds chirprping] - we didn't put any local stories on the front page for, like, four months, so even if we had updates, they were going back of the paper. so it just kind of vanished here and then vanished ofoff ththe front papages everywywh. ♪ - afafter 9/11,, the mcmcdonald's w was a memo. everybodody forgot a about i. except thehe fbi anand the juststice departrtm. [chuckles]s] they--you u know, theyey procee. ♪ - the trial was here in jacksonville hehere in thisis building. it lasteted three weweeks, and itit was almosost like a couplele trials wiwithin a l because once we have
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the e overall scscheme, ththen had to o place evidide jujust upon each o of the defefendants. yoyou have thohose grand h hopf being a a million-dodollar win. - devevereaux saysys jacobson pocketeted those p pieces and, in n exchange for a a cut of thehe prize, gave themm to f friends andnd relatives. - mark i is, at thatat stage, coming o on very strtrong with l lots of thrhreats about ththe consequeuence to o our clientt anand the terrrrible situauan ouour client w was in and hohow much timime he wasas gonna getet, and... genenerally we d don't rerespond favovorably to t thr. ♪ - itit was pretttty clear thatat mark devevereaux was comiming full foforce. - i alalways love e wiretaps bebecause you u just bringngn ththe little r recorder and d you push p play and there'e's this clilient-- not onlyly is h he making a a confessi. you are lilistening lilive to y your clientnt commititting the c crime.
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♪ - mamark was likike the bulllg ththat bit thehe tire of t thek and couldndn't let go,o, and ultitimately i sicced j janice on h him. - [chuckckl] - and d she eventutually brbrought him m around. ♪ - ultimatetely it's alall upo how yoyou will defefine vict. in t this case, , it wasn't t, but it w was working g through whwhat was bt for hihim plea-wisi. wewe ended upp workining out somemething ththat was defefinitely lilive and favorarable for ouour clit frfrom a very y difficult t pon to startrt with. - [chuckleles] right.. - so, yoyou know-- - wewe didn't hahave much of a defenense. ♪ - - accordingg to f federal invnvestigators, jacobsonon has pleadaded guily to takaking those e pieces and d giving thehem to fries anand family t to redeem.. - once we e made our d deal and jerry y pled guiltlty, thenen he becameme kind of t te inststrument of f the prosecec.
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- becacause jerryy begagan cooperatating, ththe prosecututor did agrge toto do a motition to the e ct for reductction basedd on sububstantial a assistanc. - but yoyou are totatally at their d discretion.n. they couldld suck you u dry for r informatioion anand then not help you.u. ♪ - - we had eigight original inindividuals s who were i in, whwhich turneded into 53 p p. and ouout of the 5 53 thatat were therere, everybybody pled but seveven people whwho decided d to go to t tr. they dididn't plead d because they dididn't like d devereaux, yoyou know, aftershaveve or some c crap. it's bececause we hahad them. that's w why. ♪ - ththey got mee on o one count o of mail frar, and d i pled to the onene count bececause.. i did d it; i did d it. - ththese peoplele thatat i gave titickets to did d not know i i lied to t.
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so they y really-- they g got screweded. but oncece you pleadad guilt, it's toooo late. but thatat's the menentaliy of peoeople who nenever ben in trorouble. yoyou just getet so scarede. it's l like you'rere gonna lose everyrything you u have, you're g gonna go toto jail, an. sosomebody's g gonna be screwingng your wifefe, and.. you knknow, your k kids--theye not t gonna knowow you anymoe and stuff f like that.t. anand guys getet scared, s so s why theyey plead guiuilty, toto get it ovover with. ♪ - mymy plan at t the time ws toto enter a p plea of notot , so that't's what i d did. if youou have no k knowlede of a cononspiracy oror a crim, yoyou can't bebe guilty. ♪ - - seven wentnt to trial. two,o, followingng my opepening statetement, ended d up changining their plps from n not guilty y to guilty becaususe they dididn't realie
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certaiainly it wasas a crie when jacobobson stole thatat game piecece. but then y you had the frauaudster, and the e fraudster r is thee turnrning in thahat game pie and sayiying thatat he or shehe won it according to these rules. ♪ part o of the govevernments theoryry was that t mcdonals have b been defrauauded by f folks like e george chahanr because they had v violated the game r rules. ♪ gameme rules, yoyou know, in a federal couourt of law, ththe federal l statutes a a- mail f fraud and w whatnot. i i have neverer tried a c ce wherere the "lawaw" isis the game e rules of a hamburger comompany. - you liteterally haveve a fefederal prososecutor suggggesting thahat if you b e ththe mcdonaldld's game ruru, yoyou must be e a criminala. - there were those that would really question,
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"well,l, why are y you even prosecutining it? itit was just t a game." there'e's a differerence between a lalaw and rurules of a g game. but eveven if an i individual was s tricked and theieir friend was tetelling themem, "why don't't you do ththis? you acact like you're thehe winner,"" well, yoyou committeted fraud because e you deceivived, you tricked ronaldld mcdonaldd into l letting go o of money. whwhat gave the fefederal govevernment the abilility to prorosecute ths was that t they used the ununited statetes mail. if you h have a scheheme to t trick somebebody out t of property or money and yoyou use our uniteded states mail... that's a c crime. ♪ - ththe governmement dug g its heels s in on tht and tookok the positition tht
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ifif someone found ththat game pipiece on thehe st and cashshed it in, , they'd e commititting a federal crimem. but the mcmcdonald's w witnes called b by the govevernmet admitted on crossss-examinatition that therere's nothining that prohis a tranansfer of a tickcket. so s st. jude cocould get a at given to them as a g gift. geororge chandleler can get the e ticket by y buying t or havaving it hananded to hi. all ththat was pererfectly la. - nonow, of coururse, "m"mcdonald's s didn't evevn follllow the rulules-- didn't follow their own rules.s" they did follow the e rules. mcdonald's's gave st. . juds hospitalal a $1 million donatn as a g gesture of goodwilill and fairirness. ♪ - i don't think the avaverage persrson would d think, ifif they got t a game piece from somebebody else,, by m most any cicircumstance, that thehey were doioing anythihing wrong,, eveven thoughh they werere telling g a lie. it wasn't t a crime.
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- ththey didn't t know, th, ththat the pieiece was sto. it's like the difference of buying a car that's stolen versus, "oh, look, i got a really good deal." and had they knownwn, i wowould suspecect many of f , if not all o of them, wouldn't h have boughtht it. ♪ - - i was a wiwitness for the e u.s. goverernment fofor mark devevereaux. i rememember a queuestion that deverereaux askeded m. he said,d, "when didid you findt ththe game pieieces were s sto" i saidid, "you t told me thehey were stot" [chuckles] if he could have come up and punched me at that time, he probably would hahave. [c[chuckles] but he s stepped rigight into , 'causese it was ththe truth. ♪ jejerry had nenever told a a. no o one in the e whole procos knew that t he was stetealing the gameme pieces. people s said, "wellll, how? yoyou gotta bebe kidding me. i mean, yoyou know thahat"-- yoyou know. no. i knewew jerry was doing g something g wron, selling the game pieces.
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but the reality is, i think hehe had the r right o place ththem wherever he wante. he was just tataking moneyey for 'em.m. - therere's only o one witnes that could say whatat george chchandler kne, and thatat was his f foster fat, mrmr. dwight b baker. and he t told the jujury in s substance t that, "i hoodwdwinked geororge chandl" and dwightht baker madade it r to t the jury that g george was s not a mer ofof the conspspiracy. he said ththat. swsworn testimimony. the e fbi did a a wiretap for twtwo months.. hundreds a and hundrededs ofof phone calalls. nonot one wordrd about t george chahandler having any complicity and knowledge ofof tickets b being stoleln or e embezzled. the jujudge agreeded with us, and he a announced t that hes gonnnna add a jujury instrucn thatat the jurieies cocould not coconvict unlessss chandler r knew the ticketet was stolelen or unlnlawfully obobtained. wewe knew thenen we shoululd win the e case. [birds chirping] - well, totoday ththe lawrenceceville mann who o admitted f fixing the mcdodonald's mononopoly e
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a few years ago testifies in federal court. jeromeme jacobsonn took t the winningng tickes whwhile workining asas head of s security fofor the compmpany that ran t the game and d that he hihired rerecruiters..... - the e obvious ququestion and one e of the thihings that was i important fofor us to prpresent to the jurury was, how inin the worldld could , jeromeme jacobson,n, ststeal winnining pieces from t the fortresess thatat was simonon marketig and d dittler while he w was being a accompd by a l lady fromom an accoununting firm? how did he do o it? ♪ - - when i putut a witness on t the stand,, especicially like e mr. jacobsb, i try to do o the defensnse's job befofore i let t the defensese , telling ththem, basicacally, "mr. jacobobson, you'u're a thiefef," and make h him admit t that. i don'n't want thehe jury thing ththat i'm somome friend o of, 'causese i'm not a a friend of mr. jacacobson. just telell the trututh. what'd youou do? ♪
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- - the way ththis would w wk is that, y you know, ththe airportsts werere a big hubub for him.. it's's how he gogot around.. anand he wouldld utilize the frfrequent-flilier lounge, the e crown roomoms, you kn. he would f frequent ththose a. ♪ hilda bebennett was s accompag jerrrry jacobsonon, bubut she is n not walking g into the m men's babathroom facacility withth . - hilda'a's supposeded to b be with himim at all ti. she was s never, evever, undeder any circrcumstance, to give ththe briefcasase full o of winning g tickets to jerryry and jerryry alone. [toilet t flushes] ♪ the brbriefcase had cocombinationsns on it.
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jerry hahad his combmbinati. hilda had d hers. ♪ and sosomehow he f found out her combination. ♪ he hadad to look over h his shouldeder at sin like he didid at the v vaut and geget the combmbination. ♪ - hehe said he w went into a l where hehe had privavacy and hehe just openenp the briefcfca. [locks click] the game pieieces were in anan envelopee that w was sealed d with a str thatat if you reremove the stickeker, it wouould show that i it was remomoved. - thisis is beforere 9/11. he'd'd take a littlele penknife.e... open it t up, take thohose game pipieces. he knonows one of f them is a winnining millionon-dollr game p piece. ♪ - he brorought commomons with hm so thahat it wouldld have the right t amount of f pieces on , 'cause on n the outsidide of t the envelopope, it woulul,
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"37 piececes." so he cocouldn't takake the e winners ouout. itit wouldn't t be 37 anymy. so he e had to briring some to replalace it. - - for some r re, nono idea w, he gotot sent thesese-- the stickekers that wewent onon the envelelopes. he got a a sheet of f them sesent to him m by mistake. - - you know,, he showewed me the e envelope. had thatat little silver holologram on i it. he said, "nobody y can get ininto thee "bececause this s is sealed dd itit's got a s special marark t if anybodydy tries to get intnto it." - - so he woululd clclose the enenvelope and put onon a new stiticker, and nobobody was thehe wiser. ♪ but had hehe not gotteten those e stickers,, he neverer could've e done th. ♪ [gavel b banging] - i memean, nobodydy suspecteted that, and thatat's how he e did it. ♪ - afteter he stolele all ththe game pieieces,
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hehe would endnd up goingg to t these factories and d making a b big play. "ladadies and gegentlemen, pleasese see, "herere is the s seed pack "which c contains onone of t the winningng game piece. "please, e everyone, l look at t "to ensurere that it h has t been tamampered withth. "look, i i take my j job soso seriouslyly, i evenen wear a bulletetproof vestst." and eveverybody's s thinking, "wow, , this guy i is, like, going realally overboaoard." but it w was all a s show. - - the biggesest breakk in t the chain t to me wawas the secucurity auditit, hihilda. but i i can't totally y blame herr bebecause i'veve seen a lolof pepeople not s stand up toto j. theyey'd let himim take a a little papass ratherer than go i in for r a confrontntation. - ouour first ththought wa, the twtwo of them m had to e in c cahoots witith one anot. hohow else couould it workr? i i wanna get t two reallyly d interviewewers on herere 'cause i i wanna knonow oncece and for all, is she i involved? is she n not involveved? - so we e interviewewed hilda bennetett
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and the e other peopople frfrom the cpapa firm. they weren't i involved. we had no money trtrading hand. nothing toto show thatat they w, you knknow, a partrt of the scs. - thinking, , "my god, h how d you nonot be invololved?" but shshe turned o out to b, you knknow, an honest lady and d just, you u know, gogot had by j jerry like he did everybody else. - i think k he told me at some popoint, he gogoes, "yeah,h, and thesese cpa firs that w we're hirining to folloe "and, yoyou know, 'legitimimize' this s proces, they're e a bunch ofof idiots" as he e coined it t as, "i"i■m stupid,d, but i wass smarteter than thohose guys”" [laughs]
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her husband had passed. and that he took care of all of the internet connected devices in the home. i told her, “i'm here to take care of you.” connecting with kim... made me reconnect with my mom. it's very important to keep loved ones close. we know that creating memories with loved ones brings so much joy to your life. a family trip to the team usa training facility. i don't know how to thank you. i'm here to thank you. [seagulls cawing] - we're e near the e end of ney six x hours of c closing argrgs in whihich defensese attornes have triried to convnvince the y ththat their c clients arare victims s too. ththey say thehey were plalad just l like everyoyone else in this s scam. gegeorge chandndler's lawyr insisists his client thought he was helping his foster father hide assets during a sticky divorce. ththis case gogoes to t the jury nenext, and d what they y have to dede is w whether thehey have any reasononable doubtbt
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any ofof these guyuys intend to b be part of f a scam. - untitil trial, jerry y had never r told anyoe that he hahad actuallyly went into the b bathroom and changeged out the e game pis and was ststealing ththe damn thihings. he neverer told anybybody. in o order for i it toto be a crimime, you haveve to have k knowlee that i it's stolenen. no o one knew. ♪ - whenen the jury y gave their verdrdict to thehe judg, there e was kind o of a... respectftful but t pregnant s silence. ♪ anand then thehe judge saia, "guilty." ♪ it c confirmed m my worst fefea. ♪ anand that wasas hard. it wasas difficultlt. ♪ - - when you p put 12 peope totogether in n that box,,
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it's s something m magical. and d i'm not sasaying anyboy is a a lie detecector, but t most of usus can, after a whwhile, go, "y"you know, t that just doesn't t pass the s smell tes" ♪ wewe're very p pleased with thehe verdict.. i thinink this shohows that ththere's no e easy way to makeke money butut to work h. and i ththink it shohows that f fraud is nonot a game and d fraud is j just thievev. thanks a l lot. ♪ - gegeorge neverer wavered,, nor r did i, in our b belief in his i innocence,, and d we went riright to work toto put togetether a comprehehensive motition for r judgment o of acquitta. - we knenew we wouldld appea, but thatat doesn't change thehe fact ththat you've e been foundnd g. ♪ i reremember comoming home and tatalking to r russell about ththe verdict.t. i reremember rusussell askining. ♪
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if i was gonna have to go to jail. and i didn't know how to answer him. - i didndn't think he was sererious. i wawas like--i i was like,, "you'r're not seririous." - you u know, all l you think abouout at ten y years old is goining behind b bars-- you see alall these babars on , and ththat's jail l to you. ♪ i was definitely afraid for him. am i gonna get to see my dad anymore? am i gonna get to see him for the next ten years? is he going away for life? it's heart-wrenching for sure, 'cause you wanna say, "well, daddy, when am i gonna see you? what do yoyou have to o do?" you don't-t--you don't't kno. ♪ - and he l loved up toto me, anand i took h him under m my, told him i it was gonna be a all right and we'd'd--we'd getet throught and... tetell him notot to worry,,
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that..... that thehe truth wouould evenentually winin the battl. ♪ - robin lisa colombo took part in a nationwide scheme to steteal the gamame winning. the maxiximum penaltlty of a single c count of mamail fd isis five yearars in prisosn and d a $250,00000 fine alonong with resestitution.. - 18 monthths. ♪ - - because ofof my past r re, you know,, they werere throwingng out alall kind of f numbers, ten yearars and thisis, but whenen we went f for sentntencing, ththe judge sas, "that wawas so long g ago. we'll foforget aboutut that." he gave e me the yeaear and a. - the judgdge, he gaveve me six monthshs of ankle e brace anand then 12 2 months' probatioion. ♪ - - i wore an n ankle bracace, yeyes, sir, fofor two yeara.
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two yeyears' housese arrest and probobation. - whenen i was in the c courtroom t that d, i wawas thinkingng to myself, "i'm'm gonna be e going to j, "andnd i gotta m make planss for mymy son "to o figure outut who gonnane the bestst person for him m to stay wiwith." ♪ he s said, "w"we're not g gonna lock k yo. i said, "w"well, that't's a good t th" ♪ my full l sentencingng was tht i hahad to pay r restitution. mymy house is s still-- has a a lien on itit, but t it was a s sigh of relef ththat i'd be e able to b be home witith my child and d to take cacare of my y own child.d. ♪ - whitite-collar c crimes notoriouously do notot get high h sentenc. if they hahaven't commmmitted another crcrime, they h have no pririors, anand they cooooperate, they may o only get two years's' imprisonmnment. ♪ - jejerry jacobsbson got the mostst severe sesentence. itit was approroximately three yeyears.
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- he p pled guil, received a 37-month sentence, i think. and i would consider that a victory. - he shoululd've got m mor. it just t doesn't sqsquare up to me, bubut again, l like i saidi, i'm m just an agagent. most agegents probabably belilieve that,, so we're g glad we d don't wear r the robe.. - - 37 months s in prison, paparticularlyly withth somebody y who has ms, is not exaxactly anan easy sentntence eithe. a ninight is a l longe in prisos. - - [chuckles]s] the sympatathetic hearart of a c criminal dedefense lawyw. ♪ - as p part of jererry's sent, he was ordered to pay, i think, somewhwhere in thehe neighborhd ofof $12 millilion in reststitn anand, i belieieve, forfeieie as w well. - itit was moree than he e could pay.y. and d so at a cecertain poinint, it bececomes... irrelelevant. [cell l door clanknks shut] - whwhen i went t to jail, you meet with t the unit mamanager,
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and hehe says, "you owewe $3 1/2 mimillion." >> when i went t to j jail, with the unit manager r and he says y you oh 3 1/2 2 mimillion dodo you h have itit? >> i i said d yes s itit is in lolocker, you can come help me cacarry it in here. to thihis daday, i i pay $60 a > if yoyou had to do it a ag woululd you? >> tomorrorow.
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>> i h had a crarazy journeyey, my h husband died. i was a a shell of a w woman, i wawas horriblele. i coululd not eat or d do do anything. so i did not w want to be e her anymore. soso, i tookok a a lot o of pil i told jererry i i will see yoy soon. that shoululd have killed me bu it did notot. . long storyry short, i amam here
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jerry y had a lot of f faults, know he chcheated on me and lie he was a also my mediatotor, middleleman that k kept me from familyly, from peoeople huhurti hehe always totook my sidede. i know they blame me, how w coc you not? i wowould, youou blame eveveryb it e ended up bebecoming a... when my y mother wenent to p pr after jejerry died, itit endnde becocoming a bigig war b betwee
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fafamily and t the columbobo's. they ended u up p keeping g mymr , who wawas three at the time.e i woululd call them all the tim tryingng to get him and d ththe woululd never lelet me see himi anand monopolyly put me bak inin prison. i wawas in prisoson countingng days u until i am going g toto son anand mononopoly p put me b prisonon. i lostst my y son, m my husband freedodom again. i did d not know whahat i i was to do.o. firsrst of all..
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i dodon't think k he's regreretg anythingng he did. n mcdonanald's scam.m. >> he nenever once a apologized ever foror i i do notot t think he is rege anythihing he did.d. he p pulled off a $20 0 million mcdonald's scam, he is famous almost, ththey are doing a movi about him. >> talkingng about t the consnsequence, i i rememember h reremorse fullllness a and grie hehe realized d other peopople getting g charged, h he did not imaginine that whahat happenede > we didid nonot realize e w was gogoing to do at t the time jerry was s caught, our pepeopl wewere vilifieied, we did nonot wrwrong. we w were doing g whatat w we w susupposed to.o. that is it. > after they annonounced the closining of thehe plant, you u
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nonot have a c choice, you did get a severance e or anynything you were jusust terminateded. yoyou would bebe amazed at the reactionon and emotition youou and a lolot of thehe p people. some just busted outut crying. >> we all l lost our jobobs beb of i it, the place disisappeare > it all l came crarashing t anand because e of one pererson > it hurtrt a a lot of f pep i wowould hope h he feels babad bebecause wewe built frienendsh >> i i rememembered we wouould aroundnd, ththey said as y you byby him slap him.m. >> i think it would be hesitatation to cocome back k t plant. >> he nevever ononce mentionone chaos s and dedestruction hehe wiwith his little prproject.
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he did not e even seseem to thi about itit. >> he has a vavariety of thohou why he d did it, b but basicala said i it is utterer stutupidit his part. >> j jerry and i i were married fromom 73 and 276. let's put it this way. when a child is brought up a certain way, they wind up a certain way, he never felt worthy of much, he was raised without money and he felt like he played second fiddle to marvin because marvin n was getting ththe financiaial suppo >> we wewere friendsds but we a
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not brothehers if that i is s a yoyou want to say. there are no fun stories. >> somome titime in his life he decided i i want whahat all of these otother peoplele have. hehe wanted pepeople to lookok him fofor his prestigege, the m he hadad in the bank, so he cou suppressss all of the nenegativ feelelings. he achieveved what he e wawante he h had moneyey, he h had stat had eveverything. ththen he paidid d dearly for i hehe may be remorseful but he also may think well, i did have it once.
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- what? - hey, h hey! [buzzer r blares] wake up! you u shoul- you can't t wear th. - whwhy? - it's chuhurch, prui. itit's church,h, the lord'd's . come on.. i i knew the o odds ofof winning t the appeall were v very, very y slim. i was s just sentetenced to probatition, >> i knew thehe o odds of wi the apappeal were very s slim. i i was just sentencnced to probation so i remember thinking , what is the point? i wanted to appepeal bececause neneeded jusustice to be s serv > ready? let't's roll. load u up. we wanant t to heaead ththis di >> when i was convicted, mark knew thehe evidence was
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overerwhelming t that i was s n invovolved in a a conspiracycy. >> mister r chandler did not ha clean hands,s, he was willing t take m money from m a lalady th should possibly get 50% of whateverer the moneyey is throu divovorce, he wawas lyining to mcdonaldld's. >> there was no wife, that was a phantom story, the appeal we wrote disagreed and said that type of approach is standing criminal law on its head but the percentage o of coconvictio reversed by 11thth c circuit is dodown t to 2%. we feel l that we are righght b thatat does not t alalways mean are victororious and the couour appepeals agreed, we got the appeal in 2004, the world was making sense agagain. >> i was eventntually acququitt ththe problem m was i stilill l
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lot of p people's trust and tha hurts.s. there e is real damamage there. real lastiting, permananent, da. for a longng time i was angrgry felt violated. hehe was my y friend, i trusust. i lookeded up p to him. >> howow a are you? ? hohow is the familily? >> they are all good. >> i i told him i forgive you. i am not angry with you ananymo. >> i i would never want t anyby to g go through the pain and
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that thehe people involveded because ofof my behavioror, had go t through. you pay for bad chchoices and t sad part is, everybody around you pays for your bad choices. >> we all make mistakes. he should not be faulted for it the rest of his life. it is hard to move on sometimes. cannot get back to normal. you can forgrgive e and exextene to people.e. >> i j just wanted to do b bett in l life and did d nonot think all of the repepercussionsns
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involved. i did a crookeked d deed. when get knocked down just get up and keep moving and that is what i did. the probation officer told me as far as robin was concererned no contatact at all.l. i toldld her t that i am notot to a associate myself with it,t do n not need d any y momore tr just rececently, i i saw her fo ththe first titime since all of thisis happened.d. >> w what isis up girl? > my y friend. >> it is like night and d daday she e is a a good person, , she really is. >> want t a a cucup of cofoffee > ahab eight cucup.
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>> o once we gotot i indicted i the as whole, i wawas a outctca becaususe i got themem involved you start t over, , i stararted a lolot of times. >> they never r got t any money nothing anand then he lost h hi carereer, i i lost him as a fri itit is one e ofof the regretst have, , i have a lotot o of reg but michchael was s onone of my regrgrets. >> i w was put at t risk, witht never seeing grandkikids, wife, going to jail. i am m nonot a d
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person b but i did a d dumb thi when i thought it was over it was over, , that hurt. we have not spoken since. >> you cut off communication with jared? > we haveve n not spokeken s >> did i do stupidid things? yes, d do i regret it? of couourse. i met yoyou, that was a benenef out t of the whohole t thing. i coululd have gotten a jerk as prprosecutor, , i made a a pers frfriend so ththere isis always benefit t in life. > one of f the funniest was you invivited my wife and i tot yourur 60th, you said d this is guy that prosesecuted me, , tht did not know whahat to say. yo, >> you leaearn to live with
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everything. i learned to live with cancer. your life chchanges. yourur pririorities chchange. >> i w was excommumunicated frf the chchurch and i still am, i hope to change that someday. i have a lot to cocontribute still. >> they alwaways s say you need fall before you can rise and i saw my d dad grow strongerer ov time bececause of the adversrsi he f faced. >> i know mcmcdonald's w was vivictimized b but they did not lose a anything hehere. what arere you going t to say? their sales dipppped? it w was all o of ththe people
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participipated in ththe contest thought t it was legitimimate. the byprproduct victctims, the mamarketing was one, the brothers, some of these people lost their job in a day. i will go on to the next case but the people that depend on that job are gonone. all because of one man's greed. jerry jacobson, he is by himself on that. >> if somebody said to me what he did w was a victimless crime i would tell them they lost their mind. how can you say that? you wrecked so many people's lives.s. if he said that it would just be a excuse.
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- yeah, he definitely wants to put it in his past. >> he definitely wants to put it in hisis p past. >> w when was s the e lalast ti spokoke? >> p probably a a month agago. he does nonot want to think k a it o or talk a about it. when i t teased him i said, , d you hahave anyny t tickets? he d did not even respond. >> he violatated the l law, he toto jail he h has 12 million n restitutution, he tetestified, has beenen on the news, , ththi keeps gegetting attentntion non years later and all they want to do is live their lives, he wants three lilive his remainin life in peace without t havingn answer to everybody aroundnd hi >> i think he e gogot off eaeas
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still has s his life, his nice house, his carars, plus s theye not t find t the money he e hah buried somomeplace. >> youou t think so? >> yes, cocontingency y plan, i would haveve money burieied someplplace. come on. >> t the truth of f the matter the vast majority of these winners are good people. they just did something stupid and there is not anybody t that does not do something stupid. many did not recognize the severity of it. they probably had no idea they were committing a federal crime. it is so e easy, this is all yo haveve to do, you u arare not h anybody. they jusust wanted s some free moneney to d do somethining tha all l know is wrong.
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her husband had passed. and that he took care of all of the internet connected devices in the home. i told her, “i'm here to take care of you.” connecting with kim... made me reconnect with my mom. it's very important to keep loved ones close. we know that creating memories with loved ones brings so much joy to your life. a family trip to the team usa training facility. i don't know how to thank you. i'm here to thank you. - the e mcdonald's's case was whatat we call a a career cac. not t all agentsts get a a career casase. you'rere doing somomething that it seseems like the mcdonaldld's case e is we c call it carareer cacase, n
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agents g get a career case, you are dodoing someththing that s like t they would d make a a mo about itit. >> i a am reallyly happy e ever endeded how it didid, wewe were to put the g game e back. it is ststill at mcdonalald's today. much more e secure. we want toto make surere that justice wawas served and i feee thatat it was.s. johnhn, the attotorney genenera thankeked me for the s service the countrtry. that was a a really prououd mom i have n no letters from d doug , >> whehen you look back k now,w whwhich i do not d do much, , y just like, this minefield we went around and somehow w we we
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goldenen. i coululd have looooked atat th sticky n note and said whatevev but without the informrmant on this c case, it never r wowould happened. . it starteded there. . >> youou said you cacalled theh but t at no poinint didid you c the fbi direrectly? > no, whyhy w would i calall fbi? i had no idedea ththat was goin be a factor. i never heard frfrom anyonone a. dedetectives, fbi, m mcdonnell, jerrrry, it was s likeke i was involvlved. >> canan y you imaginene the ir givingng somethingng to the fbi that t turns out to o bebe a ca i hope w we are better than n t >> m my undersrstanding isis i complainint cacall, some
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nonpararticipant b bystander dedecided to b burn the house d and calllled the fbibi. >> if f the irs had even scscratched ththe surface e of cacase, it w would have been a joint tatakedown andnd they wou have been ththere beside us. there is no irs there e so i i promomise you ththat d did not that way. > can youou tell usus who th informanant is? > not in 1 million n years. good try. . nono sale. >> i do not think k anybybody thoughght for a secocond t that wawas going toto g get as big a did,d, it gogot really big real fast. . i i told thehem if it ever goes south, i i do not wantnt t to b cacaught up inin t this. had i taken n the e mcmcdonald' tickcket and casashed it in, i honestlyly b believe she still
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would haveve called the fbi and woululd be in prisison n now. >> hello. >> thehe informamant wasas who? > it was frfrank's mothther. >> a after jerryry pasassed awa sasaw all ofof the nonsense goin inin all of the mamanipulationo pepeople backskstabbing eaeach > there wasas a a lot of thi back then n that h happened, att point frank'k's mother had custodody of francescoco b but bebecame morore evident t thata robibin got out t of prison she going toto have her son and d t did not gogo over well with h frank's s mother so o becaususe son wawas dead and bececause sh blamed w whoever for what ever occurreded to her son, shehe tu into the venengeful mother, i a goining to take the one e thing robin hahas away from heher and
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that is s her soson. so she c called the fbfbi. she isis the o one that dedecid break itit. her son n is dead, therere is s linknk bacack and she called th fbi anand rat eveverybody out. that is ththe waway it had to b >> i w went from l living witht momom, my mom'm's parents, my d paparents, hononestly thatat ha the biggggest struruggle o of m lilife, being g torn b between twtwo familieses, i fefelt like pawn bececause a lot of it w wa poininting fingegers at that po anand it wasas j just a battle them bacack and forth h and d i cacaught in ththe mimiddle. at this s point in l life, i wa. toto avoid conflict,t, i had so
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much of itit in n my childhohoo do not want to hear r any y negatitivity from m anybody anymore. my mom and g grandmotherer susurprisinglyly have a good relationonship now. >> in the long runun i i ended being their favovorite dauaught in lawaw. i do n not know if it is b beca i ststood up to o ththem. > that is a a big c change. > yes shehe t tells me every and wants s me to be the onene, they g go first, t that tatakes ofof her a and i wouldld be. no m matter whatat, i i wowould there for r them, they know tha that is s who i amam. robin's fafather, and d glori. > she only y gave them informrmation on robin, robin's
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fatherer and gloria.a. >> if shshe could get t rid of robin, mayaybe not death but disappear,r, then therere was nobody to o take care of f frano but therere ststill remains rob parents whwho could have r rais them so ththey all had to go t be able toto have francesco.o. she was gainining her grandsono that was t the reward. her granandson. >> my y mother did not realiliz that t the fbi wasas goioing t after jejerome, wiwiretap his h and so f forth and make anototh monopolyly game and d start t connectiting the dots s and ala ththese other r tickets fofor a cocouple of yeyears. >> t this story y has s rereven hahas everythihing wrappeded up one, you g guys are the only people o outside of f us t that that n now, we have e not told
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anyonene on this planenet. >> we figured it was timime to tetell thehe truth. . >> my son just came home f from workrk and this s isis antonio happens toto work for mcdonaldl now.w. so mcdonald's has treated the family very well. ♪ ah...ha ♪ unh ♪ you don't have to talk all night ♪ ♪ i'm a man who can't say no ♪ ♪ you don't't have to twistst my arm ♪ ♪ just point me where you wanna go ♪ ♪ take me to the action ♪ take me to the trtrack ♪ take me t to a party y if ththey're bettttin' in thehe♪ ♪ i been working all my life ♪ can't afforord to waitt ♪ l let me callll my wife s sn tell herer i'll be l late ♪ ♪ i wanant the easysy, mm
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♪ e easy, easy y money ♪ i couldld get luckyky ♪ oh, t things coululd go rit ♪ i want ththe easy, ayay, unh ♪ easy, easy money ♪ maybe this one time ♪ maybe tonight chowchilla was a wonderful place to grow up. never did i think that something like this could happen. i did not want to go down there. was it a thrill crime? your guess is as good as mine. we■re being buried alive. i thought, “if we're going to die,” “we're going to die getting the hell out of here.” god forgive them, because i won't. it was possibly the story of the century. chowchilla tomorrow at 9 on cnn.
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