♪ ♪ ♪ hunter biden facing felony charges. the president's son is accused of a scheme to avoid paying at least one point $14 million in taxes. we will break down the latest indictment and how he is responding to it. and we are following the sentencing hearing for the michigan high school shooter. dozens of heartbreaking victim impact statements being read in court, detailing the survivors and their families have been through. and amid threats from donors to pull money, emergency meetings among top officials at now growing calls from lawmakers to resign. the president is not -- budging, at least so far. we followed these major developing stories and more all coming in here to cnn news central.

♪ ♪ ♪ we begin with president biden's son, hunter, indicted again, and this time he is facing the most serious allegations yet, three felony charges he -- tax abrasion and fraud. among the nine charges that accuse him of avoiding more than 1 million dollars in taxes. president biden is not part of any of the charges against his son we should note. the 56-page indictment says between 2016 and october 15th of 2020, hunter biden, quote, spent this morning on drugs, escorts, and girlfriends, luxury hotels, and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, and other items of a personal nature. in short, everything but his taxes. the new charges at to the fallout from the collapsed plea bargain that hunter biden initially had with federal prosecutors. that fell apart in july. >> mister president, any

comment on the new charges against your son? mister president! >> today, president biden declining to respond to his son's latest legal troubles, but he did say this back in may. >> my son has done nothing wrong. i trust him, i have faith in him, and to validate my presence by making me proud of him. >> cnn chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid is tracking all of this precip. paula, tell us more about this indictment. >> reporter: remember, this case was supposed to be resolved with a plea deal where the president's son would've pled guilty to two misdemeanors. he is now facing nine counts, including three felonies. in this 56-page indictment, prosecutors included a lot of embarrassing details about what they say he spent his money on instead of paying his taxes on time. that includes hundreds of thousands of dollars to various women. nearly $200,000 on adult entertainment as well as tens

of thousands of dollars on drugs and rehab. the president's son has of course been very open about his substance abuse issues. in a statement, his attorney abbe lowell said if hunter biden's name was anything other than hunter biden, that he would not be facing these criminal cases in delaware and california. now, something else that might not happen if your last name wasn't biden. a short time ago before this indictment, in the past few months, hunter biden sat down for a podcast to talk about how he feels about all of this. let's take a listen to what he said. >> they are trying to, in their most illegitimate way he, but rational way, they are trying to destroy a presidency. so it's not about me. and their most bass way, what they are trying to do is they are trying to kill me, knowing that it will be a pain greater than my father could be able to handle.

>> reporter: i want to reiterate that the interview was recorded before this most recent indictment. with these charges however, he could face a maximum sentence of 17 years. it's rare that anyone gets the maximum sentence, and his lawyers are confident that if the case goes to trial, they believe they will win because they say, look, especially when someone pays back their taxes, as hunter biden did here with hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees and penalties, these cases are not brought. they argue it is politically motivated at they will prevail at trial. right now, it is unclear when he will make his first appearance in federal court. >> paula, thank you for the latest on that. obviously, a huge development for us. now to a cnn exclusive. pro trump lawyer kenneth chesebro, who helped devise the 2020 fake elector scheme, is now cooperating with investigators in michigan and wisconsin. sources tell us that chesebro is hoping to avoid more criminal charges after he pled guilty to conspiracy in georgia. cnn's marshall cohen joins us now. marshall, that makes a list for

states where chesebro is helping investigators. what more are you learning? >> reporter: this really shows the transformation of ken chesebro from a conspirator in 2022 a cooperator today. we knew that he was already helping state investigators in georgia and nevada. the development here is that the cooperation is abandoned. he's also helping investigators in michigan and wisconsin. this is the first indication of a criminal investigation in wisconsin, and that means that six of the seven states that the trump campaign targeted in 2020 now have investigations. most famously georgia, of course, with the racketeering case against trump and so many others where chesebro pleaded guilty. also this week earlier in nevada, ha -- charged fake electors there. now this also makes it clear that the investigation in michigan, where they charge the fake electors in july, clearly it's ramping up. at least it's still active,

sources tell me. our colleague zak cohen, and chesebro's cooperation, is a big part of that. >> marshall, walk us through how this fits into the context of the federal election subversion case. the one being brought on by special counsel jack smith. >> reporter: jack smith charged donald trump at donald trump only. he basically said that trump had many different attempts and schemes to overturn the election, the fake electors being one part of a multi pronged attempt. jack smith went right to the top and he charged donald trump. these state cases are clearly going to the people on the ground. the fake electors, republican activists, and others, gop county chairs like that, in these states who actually signed the certificates, the false certificates of participated in the scheme. >> we will see how chesebro winds up contributing to those investigations. marshall cohen, thank you so much. in new york, the former president is preparing to take the stand in the high stakes civil fraud trial against him

and his really state company. this is coming despite his own attorneys advice not to testify. >> he still wants to take the stand, even though my advice is at this point you should never take the stand with a gag order. but he's so firmly against what is happening in this court. >> cnn's kara scannell is live outside the courthouse with more on this. kira, what should we be expecting? >> reporter: as you said, donald trump will be taking the stand on monday. this will be the first time he's questioned by his own attorney. the last time he testified in this case he was questioned by the new york attorney generals office. they set the tone and tenor of the questions. this time, it will be his lawyers opportunity to ask the questions and give him, the former president, an opportunity to respond to them in a way that he wants to. the last time he was on the stand it was fairly combative. trump used it as an opportunity to essentially become a campaign stop. he was criticizing the investigation. he criticized the new york

attorney general in the room. even criticize the judge who already found that trump's financial statements are fraudulent. that judge sitting just a few feet from him on the bench. this time around it will be trump's teams opportunity to present what they want him to say. his attorney, alina habba, yesterday saying that trump is not afraid to testify. saying that he will provide some clarity, speaking more about the loans that the banks had given him. so i expect we will hear a lot of substance in his testimony, but also likely some more of his campaign speech. that is why his lawyer is saying she did not think he should testify, because if the gag order. this gag order is very narrow. it just limits trump speaking about the judges clerk, but that goes into trump's argument that this is not a fair trial. so it's expected we will hear more about that as well on monday. breonna? >> we will be looking for that. kara scannell live for us in new york. boris? let's dig deeper on all of this with former federal prosecutor seth waxman. set, there's a lot to get to. thank you so much for being with us.

we heard there from the attorney for president trump saying she counseled him not to take the stand, especially under a gag order. should he testify? what do you anticipate? >> reporter: we have to remember that this is a civil case. so if there were really criminal charges that could be brought in the background, of course as an attorney you have a huge concern that your testimony could be used against you criminally in a future case. it's not likely that there is a criminal case that will stem from this, but with mr. trump, look, putting him on the stand is always a huge risk. >> as we have seen from him outside the courtroom multiple times, he has a tendency of being very boisterous and potentially pushing the envelope with the judge and others involved in the case. i want to pivot from one presidential family on trial to another presidential matter, presidential legal matter, and that is hunter biden. he's facing nine new charges tied to tax fraud, allegations of tax fraud. these appear to be significantly more severe than what was in the plea agreement that fell apart over the

summer. no? >> reporter: sure, they certainly are. this past summer he was facing two misdemeanors in all likelihood. it would have not gone to jail. he would've moved on with this like. this new indictment is far more serious. the thing that gives me pause about this indictment is that hunter biden has paid back the money with penalties. so it's a question of prosecutorial discretion. should a case like this be brought, given that the irs has been made whole? and again, many people can reach a different conclusion on that. >> prosecutors argue that, though he paid the money back, he lied multiple times to the irs. how do you think that plays out in a courtroom? >> reporter: it's not a defense that you paid it back. certainly, if you don't file your tax returns correctly, you lie about your taxes, you can be found guilty of a crime. the fact you paid it back later is really irrelevant. it's really more a question of prosecutorial discretion. does a prosecutor want to follow this? >> he just face a maximum penalty of 17 years in prison. how likely is that he gets the max? >> reporter: no, not likely at

all. there's sentencing guidelines. it would likely be much, much less than that. still, it could involve a prison sentence, which is of course serious. >> republicans in the house have argued that he has been involved in all sorts of illicit and inappropriate foreign business dealings. he has been investigated for those now for more than five years. that wasn't in this new indictment. right? so what does that tell you? >> reporter: what it tells me first is that this prosecutor might be trying to bring a very narrow case. he feels like he has the facts to prove beyond a reasonable doubt tax fraud. so why complicate things? why bring in extraneous other types of charges that could confuse a jury? let's just stick to the type, facts, and get a conviction. >> notably, hunter has been subpoenaed by congress. they have essentially asked him to show up for a closed-door deposition next week, or face a contempt of congress charge. if you were advising him would you tell him to show up? >> reporter: no, not at this point. clearly, he has the right to

plead the fifth. he's always had that right. there's been a debate between him and congress as to whether he would appear in public. or if he would appear behind closed doors. for me as a defense lawyer, that would take all of that off the table. i would not have him there. >> his argument is that house republicans would potentially use selective portions of his testimony against him and take them out of context. seth waxman, we have to leave the question -- conversation there. appreciate your perspective. still plenty more news to come on news central, including growing pressure on the president of upenn to resign, with donors threatening to withhold millions of dollars. all of this after her congressional testimony on antisemitism that has led to outrage from both parties. also ahead, we are following the heartbreaking victim impact statements at the sentencing hearing for the gunman in the oxford high school shooting. >> i am so sorry, can, for leaving that building that day. that is and forever will be my biggest mistake and my biggest regret. i am sorry that i cannot make

you feel -- in a world without hannah. if i could, the shooter would be dead. the creature who left hanna lying in her own pool of blood, crying in pain, does not deserve to take another breath.

tears, anger and even forgiveness. a wide range of emotions playing out today in a pontiac, michigan courtroom where school shooter ethan crumbley will soon be sentenced. first, the judge is hearing victim impact statements. here are just a few examples from parents of the four victims. hana st. juliana, justin shilling, tate myre, at madison baldwin. >> to the waste that took my daughter's life, that name will

never come out of my mouth. that life will cease to exist to me, that just like trash, it will be forgotten. >> the thing that stands out to me was what my wife said. she put her head in her hands and said, not my baby boy. there are no words that can actually describe the pain that we feel on a daily basis. i have ptsd and struggle most days to even get out of bed. anxiety, stress, sleepless nights, and uncontrolled emotional outbreaks make even the simplest most normal things difficult. >> if he were that lonely, that miserable, that lost, and you really needed a friend, justin would have been your friend if you had only asked him. >> we have cnn's jeanne casarez following this for us.

those were some of the parents, jeanne. i know you've also heard from siblings and students, from teachers who were there that for a traumatic day. tell us what you are seeing in that courtroom. >> reporter: you know, brianna, this is the first time we have really heard from these family members, from these survivors, from those who were at the school that they, because they have come, time and time again during the hearings of this prosecution, i've watched them in the courtroom. they stay silent, but this is their day, even though it is the formal sentencing of the defendant in this case. and i think the themes that we are seeing from them aren't to, the commonalities. first of all, the post traumatic stress disorder. many have been professionally diagnosed. we are hearing they are afraid to go out, afraid of being shot, afraid of something happening. having to run out of buildings. we are also hearing another thing, they are all asking, begging this judge, to sentence the defendant to life without

any possibility of parole, which is on the table. i want you to listen a little bit more to the survivors, their families, as they speak. first, steve st. juliana, his daughter was murdered on that day. >> there can be no forgiveness. there can be no rehabilitation. there's absolutely nothing the defendant can ever do to earn my forgiveness. his age plays no part. his potential is irrelevant. >> reporter: there is a very important constitutional aspect to this sentencing also. in fact, in legal documents it says that this sentencing is a case of [inaudible] for the entire country. the reason is, in 2012, the u.s. supreme court in miller versus alabama ruled that for a

minor, a juvenile, a sentence of life without any possibility of parole is excessive except for the worst offender. since 2012, there have been juveniles previously who were sentenced to life without any possibility for parole. so they have been re-sentenced as per the requirements of the u.s. supreme court. but the defendant in this courtroom here in michigan is the first one to ever be originally sentenced to life, with or without the possibility of parole. and as the judge said this summer at the miller hearing, it is difficult because we don't really know if he can be rehabilitated. because he wasn't sentenced before. he's just been in jail pending the outcome of the court case. so it makes it, in a sense, more difficult for the defense to work with. the possibility that there will be rehabilitation, but across the board the people speaking today do not want him to get out. >> yeah.

he was only 15 when this happened. obviously, that raises many legal questions. these victim impact statements that we are hearing, they are so difficult. you feel the weight of what these families have dealt with every minute since losing their loved ones. the judge can consider these, right, when it comes to aggravating and mitigating factors? explain this. >> reporter: absolutely. the judge has to look at this. two things that strikes me, because i have been involved in so many sentencing before. first of all, this judge is allowing them to speak directly to the defendant. some judges do not. they only allow them to address the court. second of all, when they finished their victim impact statements, i've actually never seen this before, the judge actually turned to those who had spoken and talked to them about their loved ones. what they did on this earth and the beauty of their lives. i have never seen that before,

but he will take it into consideration. he will also look at the abrogating -- aggravating and mitigating factors. the fact he was a juvenile is eight mitigating factor. the fact of his own life with his parents. it was a very rough upbringing according to the facts we have in the record as evidence. but he planned this in his journal. he asked his father to get a gun for him knowing that he wanted to commit a mass murder. the fact he wrote in his journal, you know, it's just in me. i can't help myself. and i'm not sure if i want to be a mass murderer, or if i want to be a serial killer, but i think i will be a mass murder at this point. and i'm going to kill the prettiest girl first. the girl that has a future. >> horrific. we are hearing the impact. these shootings happen again and again, and as we hear from these parents, it is a reminder of what all of these parents, all of these family members, go through. jeanne, thank you so much. we appreciate the report. we will be right back.

calls to resign are growing louder for officials at some of the united states most prestigious college campuses. a short time ago, cnn learned that rabbi david will being, a member of horowitz antisemitism advisory board, has resigned. there's new pressure on university of pennsylvania president liz magill after her disastrous testimony on capitol

hill this week. in case you missed it, mcgill, along with president of harvard at m.i.t., refused to condemn outright antisemitism on their campuses and the genocide of. despite several shocking incidents at their schools since israel's war with hamas began two months ago. listen to this exchange. >> i am asking specifically calling for the genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment? >> if it is directed and severe and pervasive it is harassment. >> so the question -- the answer is yes? >> it's a context decision. >> a mega donor is now threatening to rescind 100 million dollar donation he made to the school, joining a growing list of alumni, students, business leaders, and politicians demanding that liz magill he fired. athena jones is tracking these developments. you pence board of trustees held an emergency meeting on

thursday, but liz magill remain president and not budging. what more are you hearing? >> reporter: hi, boris. that's right, the meeting yesterday came after pennsylvania's governor, josh shapiro, called on the university of pennsylvania's board of trustees to meet to discuss whether president magill's testimony was a reflection, an accurate reflection, of the universities values. you know, whether she is a good fit moving forward. they have made no immediate announcements. a spokesperson said there is no imminent change that is going to be made by the board, but we know that the pressure is piling on. the warden board of advisers, which is the business school associated with the university of pennsylvania, the board is a who's who of business leaders including billionaire nfl owner josh perris. the ceo of b.e.t., scott mills. they are calling for a change in leadership saying they are concerned about what they call a dangerous and toxic culture that president magill has

allowed to exist on the campus of the university of pennsylvania. we also know that representative elise stefanik has announced investigations not only into your pan, but m.i.t. and harvard due to the testimonies of their presidents on tuesday. as you mentioned, wall street ceo ross stevens, who is an alum of upenn, is also the ceo of stonebridge holdings. he has threatened to rescind $100 million worth of stock that you can hold it does magill not step down. we have spoken to a number of students here on campus all day, probably more than 50 or 60 at this point. several say that it's inevitable that president magill is going to have to go because of the financial hit the university is taking it could take. donors closing their pocketbooks and this huge threat from ross stevens. others say, from the pro palestinian side, says she has not represented their views and they feel alienated. clearly, mixed views on this campus and a lot of pressure

still building on president magill, boris. >> athena jones live from philadelphia. thank you so much. breonna? our president claudine also under intense scrutiny following her testimony this week. listen to her response when the director asked about some of the hateful speech she has seen on her campus. >> so, the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of jews violates harvard code of conduct. correct? >> again, it depends on the context. >> i'm joined by jake miller, a harvard student, also the president of harvard -- jacob, thank you for taking the time to be with us. what was your initial reaction to that testimony that you heard from your school's president earlier this week? >> thank you for having me, brianna. i was very shocked to see that testimony. you know, i think we have to ask ourselves the question how we got here. that the presidents of the top universities in this country

are testifying before congress and can't say that genocide against jews would constitute a violation of the code of conduct. you know, if they were asked multiple times. it was a very easy question to answer. they were asked many times, and each time all of the presidents refused to say yes. these are presidents from the top universities in our country. the question i have been asking myself a lot recently is how did we get here. how did this become normal and acceptable? >> in the case of your school do you think your president should resign? >> look, i think claudine gay needs to take a hard look at herself and what she has done. she definitely needs to change course to demonstrate she does take seriously antisemitism. that she is willing to take the strong step necessary to signal that harvard will not tolerate antisemitism as it has. i don't know if that means she needs to resign. i don't think resigning is either necessary or a sufficient step to fixing our campus culture. it will require a lot more than

the work of just one president. it requires a culture change. until now, claudine gay has not done a great job, and i hope she will change her rhetoric and tone, and actually do the tough things that are necessary to help fix this problem on our campus. >> i just want to let you know we just saw an interview with the crimson on thursday. she said i am sorry. she said words matter. i think you are familiar with that interview certainly. has anyone with harvard's administration reached out to you, or anyone else at harvard hillel, in the wake of all of this? as the outreach been there with jewish students? >> claudine gay has come to harvard hillel twice, for dinner both times. i don't think this is sufficient outreach. i think there needs to be more. she spoke at hillel the second time to commit to combatting

antisemitism. she's a public facing figure and should make more of an effort to engage with jewish students, especially during this moment of vulnerability. my friends are fighting in gaza. my brother is living in israel right now. you know, this is a really tough moment for us, and she has come to hillel twice, but she could be doing a lot more. and beyond just kind of being visible to students, she needs to be more, you know, take more action, really seriously signaled that the university will not tolerate antisemitism. she just hasn't. i think that was on display during her testimony before congress. >> this hearing really prompted a conversation about, you know, free speech and hate speech on campus. where do you see the line between free speech, acceptable protest, and threatening speech? because there seems to be a lot of confusion for many people. >> right. well i think it's a very tough question, and i definitely think free speech is important. i think it's important to note that the universities are not

subject to first amendment, you know, first amendment standard with regards to speech. they are not required to tolerate all speech on campus. if people are chanting for a genocide against jews, universities don't need to tolerate that. i think it's actually appropriate that they don't because that would be calling for the murder against me and my peers, which makes a lot of us feel unsafe. so i don't think that universities need to abide by a first amendment standard when it comes to speech, and i think it's appropriate that they don't. you know, harvard does have a code of conduct and you have provisions regarding harassment, and they specify in their provisions that harassment based on gender, national identity, or religion among other things would constitute harassment. so speech calling for the genocide of jews seems to be like a very obvious type of speech that would constitute harassment under harvard's existing code of conduct. i just don't know why president gaye refused to acknowledge that in congress.

and she should have because it's an hour code of conduct and it feels like a selective enforcement of the rules. >> jacob, it has prompted a big discussion, and an important one, that this nation obviously needs to have. jacob miller, we appreciate your time today. >> thank you so much for having me. the last jobs report of the year beating expectations. it shows a strong and resilient economy, but will the country be able to narrowly avoided recession? we will have that next on cnn new central.

new u.s. jobs numbers are out today, and they are stronger than expected. the november unemployment report showing again at 199,000

jobs last month. the employment -- unemployment rate dropping from 3.9% to 3.7%. let's dig deeper with cnn economic commentator and washington post columnist catherine rampell. great to see you as always. so the health care and government sectors seeing big bumps in this report. the number of retail jobs declining. what does the data tell you about the status of the job market right now? >> reporter: the job market has been remarkably resilient. this year, last year, it's really quite striking. not only where these numbers slightly better than expected. you know, if you had asked forecasters a few days ago, they are even better today than had been predicted before the pandemic began. if you go back and look at what the congressional budget office, or the international monetary fund, what they thought the economy would look like today, we have bested all of those forecasts, which is amazing. right? you would expect that after

this once in a century pandemic, there would be some evidence of scoring across the economy. instead, we are doing better than we imagined even before we hit that crisis. >> the fed is expected to keep rates where they are next week, but the odds of them potentially putting in a cut to interest rates in march, that has somewhat diminished. where would you put the odds of that happening now? >> reporter: i do think we have seen the end, most likely, of that rate hiking cycle. so those who are worried about mortgage rates continuing to go up, for example, i think that has become certainly less likely. the next move by the federal reserve is more likely to be a cut of some kind. if you had asked market participants yesterday, they would've said they were expecting that to happen in march as you point out. they are a little less certain about that today, in part because this report was relatively strong.

in some ways it's kind of the goldilocks of reports. it shows that the economy is not too hot. it's not too cold. that should allay the feds concerns about the economy continuing to overheat about price pressures, but because it was still stronger than expected, the fed may yet hold off on putting through its first rate cuts. so even if mortgage rates are unlikely to keep going up very much, i wouldn't expect them to precipitously come down anytime soon. what does that mean for consumers and for the broader flight against inflation? >> while, inflation has cooled significantly. i mean last year it reached a high of almost 9%, year over year. now we are very close but not quite at the long run target of about 2%, year over year. things are better from the feds perspective. remember, that still means prices are going up.

they are not going to go back down. at least, overall prices are not going to go back down. they will, hopefully, continue to grow a little more slowly. a little more normally, akin to what we have seen during the several decades prior to the pandemic. that will be good news. of course, if we do not see further rate hikes that would, presumably, beginning 21 hoping to borrow to buy a home, by car, et cetera. >> definitely. kathryn rampell, appreciate the analysis. thank you. >> now to some of the other headlines you're watching this hour. authorities now believe the 67-year-old career college professor who fatally shot three faculty members this week at the university of nevada las vegas kept a target list of faculty at the school, and elsewhere. investigators say they found the list as well as ammunition, and and eviction notice during a search of anthony polling knows home. none of the shooter directly on the target list. they have identified nearly two dozen letters pull email mailed

in the hours leading up to the shooting to universities across the country. allen homesteader, who prosecutors say brought a hatchet at the capitol on january 6th, gave fire speeches calling for the execution of his perceived political enemies, it's been sentenced to 11 years in prison for his role in the capitol riot. the justice department says that prior to the capitol riot the retired police chief spread several conspiracy theories about the 2020 presidential election. the reigning masters golf champion is leaving the pga tour. jon rahm saying, in a statement, he is going to saudi-backed liv golf. according to espn, he will make his debut in february as part of a three year, 300 million dollar deal, that includes an ownership stake in 18. this comes as liv golf and the pga of working out a deal to join forces by the end of the month. when we come back, this weekend is one of the most iconic football games that will kick off.

army versus navy. i have absolutely no bias here other than to tell you, obviously, army is going to win. right? we are live from gillette stadium next. first, this time of year, of course, is about giving back. this sunday on cnn heroes, an all-star tribute. we will salute ten extraordinary people who put others first all year-round. take a look. sunday, on cnn. >> we are providing by lingual education for refugee children at the u.s. mexico border. >> extraordinary people making a difference in our world. >> we are rebuilding here in the florida keys. >> we are going to ensure that people in ghana have access to health care. i see a path in need, and the person who cares for them dearly. >> trauma can be a pathway for growth. >> we install child-friendly readings base in the barbershop. >> we all are connected because

of the shared experience of having an incarcerated parent. >> there should be no homeless vets, period. none! >> i do not want to be defined as a victim of my circumstances. >> i want to make sure that they get all the attention and love that they deserve. >> cnn heroes. an all-star tribute, sunday, eight pm eastern on cnn.

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124 tomorrow. hard to make history after all that time and yet, that is exactly what will happen when west point takes on the naval academy in this classic, college football, rivalry. kickoff is three pm eastern in a place the game has never been played before. cnn's cory wire joining us live from outside of gillette stadium in foxborough, massachusetts. what should we expect here other than army just winning the whole thing? no bias here. easy now. you know half of our viewers are probably navy. a better be careful, breonna. good to be speaking with you. listen, this game dates back to the year 1890. it is loaded with tradition, pageantry, 10 sitting u.s. presidents have attended the army-navy game. it features a future defenders of our nation. some of the brightest, as well. athletes who have to balance the rigors of being a college athletes, academics -- we are talking thermodynamics,

cyber ops, i spoke to some of the players and they say we wish the country in communities could emulate what we do. we respect the other side despite our differences. we asked each team, what makes an army football player and a navy football player? here is what they had to say. >> an army football player is tough, resilient, at the same time he's filled with love. we go through a lot of hardships and hard challenges. but they are willing to do anything when they are surrounded by the people they love. >> tough, resilient, never willing to give up, never well. claw to the very end no matter what he has left a name. he will sacrifice everything he has to the people to his right admonished. >> rihanna, i talked about traditions. one of the coolest is the running of the game ball. i'm here with tom tolman, -- he has done this marathon.

raanta liz how far in what it is? >> this year we had 200 miles. a game ball we get from the counting of the football team. we run out here as we head back out to the count on the football team. this is my 10th year doing it. >> 10th year doing it! i have to say, i love your haircut, first of all. secondly, breonna, one of the coolest things is people yo. when i yell, go army. they yell, the navy! >> that was for you. >> i love it. we are not gonna do with the reverse. i just couldn't. i couldn't bring myself to do it. it is going to be an amazing game. we are looking forward to a, coy. thank you for that report. we will be right back.