>> 360 i'm sorry it will an apology from harvard's campus et cetera. good news about the u.s. economy but why so many don't believe it. ellie reave is here to explain it. a ran emotional day for a family of four, michigan high school students he gunned down two years ago. we start with breaking news. short time ago, the u.n, citing no mention in the resolution of the attack by hamas. 13 countries voted in favor, the u.k. abstained. in israel that country's defense minister says he believes there are signs hamas is in his words

beginning to break inside gaza. an israeli flag was seen raced in the height of gaza city in the north. alex joins us now. so those comments from the defense minister. what evidence is there if any to support what he said? >> well, anderson, no doubt israel has degraded hamas's capabilities. they have taken out several thousand of their fighters, they have killed many of their senior commanders and seized a lot of their arsenal. fighting remains particularly are and the city of han unis. hamas continues to fire rockets. there are at least three barrages aims at tel aviv, this phase, this high intensity phase of the campaign is going to continue for at least a couple more weeks. many of course asking at what

cost? anderson we have to warn our viewers that some of the images they are about to see are graphic. the fight in gaza's second biggest city intensifying. israel's military claiming today to have killed dozens of hamas militants in han unis in what it called tunnel to tunnel and house to house raids. han unis is a main figure in hamas, 450 targets over the past day israel said on friday as the health ministry reported the death toll climbed to around 17,500. han unis hospitals are at the breaking point around double the capacity. this father of a boy, children were playing outside when a

strike happened. 300,000 cases of 15 different diseases. which cnn cannot verify. all this water is salty, it's dirty, it's got diseases this woman says. we drink with it, we wash with it, the children have gotten diarrhea from it. gaza the u.n. says, is on the southern most part of gaza where there isn't enough shelter food water or fuel. israel accused hamas on thursday of firing rockets from within humanitarian zones and today sirens bl blared over tel aviv twice. boom of the rockets echoing across the city. hundreds of terror suspects have been arrested in gaza city, accused of being members or

suspected members of hamas. stript down to be sure they didn't carry explosives. the relative of two other men told cnn his brother and cousin have no militant ties. >> alex, the idf said more were wounded in rescuing hostages. what do we know about that? >> they announced that, to rescue overnight hostages. the operation was not successful. we have these two soldiers who were severely wounded, the idf saying they did kill, end of october, a young private named ovi megadish was rescued. of course anderson these hostages, 137 who still remain in gaza are being held above

ground, below ground, we believe they are being moved. this comes at a time, these operations are happening at the same time that the hostage talks have come to a complete standstill. the mediators, qatar, and the u.s., trying to get them back to the table but that doesn't look soon anderson. >> the leaders of harvard, mit, calls for genocide against juice, now calls or the those university presidents to resign. nick watt has more on divisions at another major school in california. >> those five seconds have been reposted by national influencers viewed millions of times on instagram. watch again. >> killed and i hope they will

look at the news. >> the caption attached this u.s.c professor john strauss threatened these students. hope you get killed and i hope they all are, during a campus rally for gaza. we call on usc to terminate this professor immediately. tenured college professor says, i hope they are all killed. mourning palestinian deaths. is that really what he meant or what he said? strauss who is jewish and avowedly pro israel appeared on the newscast. >> usc professor put on administrative leave after a protest on palestinian lives. >> i started getting e-mails, very, very very nasty e-mails and things from i hope you die your fascist pig to, palestine forever. >> while an actual war rages

thousands of miles away this video and its fallout typify the current conflicts on so many american college campuses. >> we have an atmosphere that is hostile to free feature is the key problem. the people are going to college are adults. but a lot of them are acting like children. they want to see people punished for their speech. >> so what actually happened that day here in l.a? well here is a longer version of that video, 21 seconds not five. >> people are. >> professor strauss i believe. >> that's all they want. everyone killed (inaudible). >> and that they should die every one of them referred to of course hamas. >> the longer video of professor strauss was shot and filmed by

this student, she asked we obscure her identity for fear of reprisals. >> your identity is in here but you expose the identity of professor strows. how do you reconcile that? >> professor strows he is like i said a grown man, like i said tenured faculty who harassed students. >> strauss stepped on the name of the dead, she said that was probably an accident. emotions were really high. >> we were filming the names and like laughing at them. >> we spoke to a jewish student who was there remembering their own dead. he did film the names and he was disrespectful. he apologies for any offense caused but told cnn he does not know for sure that all those names are innocent dead palestinians because the source is the gaza health ministry controlled by hamas. and that's a basic problem on these campuses. the two sides barely agree even

on any basic facts. trojans for palestine. why did you feel moved to create that? >> we have a very large jewish population on campus. we have the shoa foundation, i would (inaudible) the spread. >> comes out of mouths at the many pro-palestinian rallies. many pro-palestinians say it's just a call for freedom. many jews say it is a call for genocide for destruction of israel which right now lies between the river and the sea. >> is there a way back from where we are right now? where both sides feel similar things in terms of their voices being suppressed? >> on a personal level, no, once i know that someone is going to unequivocally support israel i

will put them out of my life. >> and nick watt joins us now from los angeles. what more is usc saying about this? >> well, that is very interesting. what they're saying basically gives us the other slice of this story which is how college administers are trying to deal with this, trying to not offend and making mistakes in the process as we are seeing on capitol hill. here at usc, they say strauss was never put on administrative leave. he says he was. our statement discusses his status since november 13th. not exactly clear and candid. they now say that i mean they have said all along that they are shocked to the comments attached to those videos and they now say, you know, all restrictions are lifted, he is allowed back on campus, also noting that classes for this semester are finished. he also says he has not been pshtd in any way.

last i've heard from his lawyer he is still under investigation and still could be punished. they don't know how to deal with all this stuff going on on college campuses and it continues. >> we say, harvard apples president claudine gay saying i'm sorry she told the harvard crimson, words matter. went to two of the schools, penn, i spoke to him earlier, congressman gottheimer, thanks for being with us. what is what was your reaction when you heard these university presidents saying this, what they declined to say in that house hearing and how they are trying to clean it up. what do you make of it? >> i literally had to watch it multiple times because my jaw was on the ground. i couldn't believe they were actually saying calling for the

genocide of jews did not violate their code of conduct and trigger bullying and harassment issues on their campus. and so frankly, i think the level of outrage across the country, you know, is making them try to rewrite what they said. but the bottom line is: they were saying unless there was actually conduct, unless a jewish student was killed, it didn't violate their code of conduct and bullying and harassment unless i.t. was actual conduct. and i think we're all on the same place on this and everyone you have heard asked questions of those presidents in shock. >> the harvard crimson said, i'm sorry words matter when words amplify distress and pain. the university of pennsylvania president, i'm not sure she directly apologized. she said in that moment i was focused on our university's long standing policies aligned with u.s. constitution which says that speech alone is not

finishable. she also went on to say i was not focused but i should have been on the irrefutable fact that the call for genocide for jewish people, is the most evil people can perpetrate evil pure and simple. do you think they have gone far enough, do you think they should step down? >> i think the three of them should step down. imagine being the parent of a student on campus, i don't ever want any student, whether jewish or muslim, every student to go to class, regardless who they are, regards their background. i don't know if you oar jewish student on a lot of campuses in our country you're not just afraid. that's when people are screaming death to jews, dirty little jews, things like that, on these campus wrest they literally can't go to class, they can't wear a head covering, a

yarmulke. i believe strongly as a member of congress, you do believe freedom there fear, no one should be afraid. >> committee investigation to harvard up and penn, i know you're not on that committee, do you know what kind of leverage they would have over private colleges? >> each of these colleges -- resources, you know, and if they're in violation of title 6, i think these -- the department of education needs to investigate as well. they could lose their funding. the government shouldn't encourage governments that could put people in fear. regardless of background, antisemitism, islamophobia, these can't go on and whatever these presidents said shouldn't be accepted about. >> ooubl students of antisemitism in the u.s. have been widespread not justs this

two universities. do -- just these two universities. how do you want it to be handled? >> people on the intelligence committee and seeing not just what's going on here but around the world in terms of the surge ever antisemitism which has reached all time highs, what could i think, i think as a country we need to make sure we stand up to hate in all its forms. a lot of it is about education and teaching. i believe that tiktok right now the disinformation is causing a huge destruction to the truth in our country. i think we have to make sure that we get the facts out and that we teach that hate is unacceptable in all forms and the most important place to teach that of course is in our college campuses and our schools. >> congressman thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me. i really appreciate it. >> still to come tonight trump loses another fight over a gag

order, this time involving the 2020 election case. there is one person he can keep criticizing, we'll have the details ahead. also hunter biden faces a new indictment. what he said in a new interview. ahead.

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largely upheld the gag order in the president's milc statements with witnesses pose a significant and imminent threat to the trial's proceedings. witnesses and court staff and their families. but he can comment about special counsel jack smith. any delay in the trial date counterproductive and they say he can't use his presidential candidacy as a shield. we do not allow such an order lightly. mr. trump is a current candidate for the presidency, and there is interest in what he has to say but mr. trump is an indicted criminal defendant and must stand trial like other criminal defendants, that is what the raw means.

ellie what do you make of the ruling? >> i think court of appeals got it spot on, but what the court of appeals has done is craft a ruling that is as narrow as possible, protects the trial and i think the best way to understand it is if we look at the history. originally doj asked for a overbroad gag order. judge chuck wisely rejected that. she said he can say what he wants but he can't talk about court staff or witness he and can't do something to interfere with the jury. the court narrowed that a little bit more by saying he can talk about jack smith though. really he can say much of what he would want and need to say to defend himself vic russly in the public. so i think they got it right. >> what are the chances of him winning this is if it ends up at the supreme court? >> well, i think -- i agree with

ellie that i think the appellate court drew -- walked a really difficult line and drew the line where they should, the supreme court wouldn't alter it too much but we honestly don't know anderson because this is a really challenging order to be implemented. i think it's going to be hard, if for each instance, that the former president then says something or tweets something, if then that goes back to the district court judge whose order now has been slightly ad adjustd by the district court level and how is the supreme court going to navigate those instances. the former president we know how he acts in public, he will go up to lines, he will try to cross the line ever so slightly and i think it's going to be a difficult opinion to implement as a practical matter. >> and ellie, the former

president continues to compress that he has -- impress that he has absolute immunity. the courts are going to appeal it. but that's an important issue to decide. >> the gag order is important but the immunity issue is make or break. because if trump wins i think it's possible but unlikely, that the case is over. he's appealing to the court of appeals, there is such thing as criminal immunity, civility immunity, trump is trying to make the argument that there is criminal immunity. judge chuckin has rejected this. this is going up to the supreme court. the other thing trump is argue while i'm going up, all the stuff you would get ready to do before trial all that should be put on hold. and if he succeeds on that that could really jeopardize the

march trial date. that is really important and we have to keep an eye on that. >> carrie what do you think the supreme court should do with that whether trump has immunity? >> on immunity i think he is going to lose substantively. he has tried to make these different claims of immunity in a number of different contexts. he loses all the time. he continues to make law that is not in his favor on immunity. i think he loses do think that there is the potential as it makes its way through court, particularly if it ends up in the supreme court to push that march trial date. i think he has less substantive merit on that case, different than the appellate decision on the first amendment issues which acknowledge that he had some credibility arguments. >> so ellie do you agree there is a chance that the court will put everything on hold until a decision was made and that would

push the march trial date back? >> i think that is possible. i think its incumbent on the court of appeals and the supreme court, whether it is or not, they have to move lightning speed. how long does the appeal take? the answer is however long the appellate judges want it to take. we see appeals get resolved in three, four weeks so these judges have to be operating in the real world, and whether they put things on hold or not they need to be moving quickly. >> thanks so much. a holiday celebration in louisiana have to say about the economy and why that could be a challenge for president biden in his reelection campaign.

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outpacing our global counterparts. democrats also, if the former president is reelected. our ellie read went to louisiana, here is her report. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> reporter: this is the annual redneck christmas raid in west monroe louisiana. >> it is not your typical christmas parade. we have got a motorized lazy boy, you can't get more redneck than that. >> it's always a good laugh. >> this part of our town i don't think there's very many rules, you know. and so pretty much anything goes. >> reporter: the behind the jokes there's a tough reality. bakamville is a very poor community and the toy drive. >> i have been a child who was

less fortunate growing up. i had had the parade give me christmas gifts and this is the way of returning the love. >> this ladies run bacamville hope. >> there is need for clothes, food, housing, there are many, many homeless in this area. there are many trailers they are living in. >> in the woods they use make shifl extents. they work managing to survive until everything got so expensive and they couldn't afford the little apartments that they had or their houses. >> interest rates skyrocketing. fuel skyrocketing. the milc. milk, $5 a gallon. >> we have trump gets back in there maybe he can straighten it out. >> why do you think he would straighten it out?

>> because it isn't in this turmoil, all this has happened in the last five years. >> i think we are going downhill. especially for a parent like me that's a single mom and not being able to find work. feels like you keep being put in a hole. you're keeping yieg to climb out but you keep getting put down. >> president biden says the economy has got be better since he's been in office but by some metrics that's true, people still think it's bad. so there's some commentary, punditry that says inflation was bad now it's lower, the economy is bad but now it's better. unemployment is lower, what do you say to those people? >> i say that's a big analyst lie. >> and why? just give me some details. >> look at our pocket books. what little people may have been able to save from the stimulus we got and all, it's gone.

people are living off credit now. if they even have that. i don't know how these families that come to this redneck parade this community even can buy groceries. because you got to either choose to buy gas or do i buy groceries or do i pay my electric bill? >> reporter: louisiana is a deep red state and neither presidential campaign will spend much money to win over voters here. there were a few trump flags at the parade but support for the former president had a different feel than what we felt in the runup to 2020. >> no comment. >> reporter: many people didn't want to comment on politics but those who did, focused on the economy. >> economy is horrible. we're ready for trump can i say that? we're ready for trump to get back in, can't wait! we're counting on it. i think he cares. i may be wrong but i think he does. and that's to say he's going to be perfect. we know that, you know, a lot of

things he does, you know, but for the most farther when he was in office, even with everything going on he accomplished a lot. >> reporter: and do you think that biden doesn't care about people down here? >> i don't think he has a clue. >> probably seen a lot running a convenience store. >> oh, yes, they got problem with the drugs, the meth and the fentanyl, that's prevalent and the law still hasn't been able to deal with it. i blame biden there too. >> who do you think you'll vote for in the 2024 election? >> trump. >> why? >> he's the only president that's given back to the people, if he's in jail i'll vote for him. >> and ellie joins us now. you can hear all the news reports about unemployment levels dropping, flakes cooling, but -- inflation cooling butter people aren't feeling it in some

cases. >> when people most animated talking about politics were people working in the margins so those two women who ran the food pantry twice a month before covid were giving out 70 boxes of food, since the pandemic giving 300 boxes of food. it hasn't dropped. housing for mentally ill people there isn't enough housing so a lot of them have to live in nursing homes. so while none of these people might have been biden fans to begin with the economic problems they are talking about are real. >> in finding work in that community how difficult is it? >> it is a community with a high poverty rate, a higher unemployment rate, i mean you just walk around, and there's a lot of people living really difficult lifts. >> it's interesting to see the role that parade plays in people's lives. i mean in that tradition of it and that young woman saying, you

know, as a child she was -- these were christmas gifts she was getting and she wants to give back now through this parade. >> it's like joking but not joking. you know there are many fancy pickup trucks there, not everybody was broke but there was an understanding and acknowledgment of need, but celebration, we live like this, we are not like city folk is what one person said, we like to be outside, like to have a good time. >> ellie reed thank you appreciate it. after hunter biden was indicted on nine charges, a newly released intrf, details next. interview, details next.

>> a day after hurntd biden was indicted on nine tax charges the white house stayed largely silent on the issue. refusing to comment on the new charges saying the if the lovers his son and supports him as he continues to rebuild his life. in a any podcast, hunter biden

had much to same about republicans tying his legal problems to his father. >> they are trying to in their most illegitimate way but rational way they are trying to destroy a presidency. so it's not about me. and their most base way, what they're trying to do is they're trying to kill me. knowing that it will be a pain greater than my father could be able to handle. >> joining me cnn contributor evan osnos, his latest book, wild land the making of america's fewer. evan i wonder whether your reaction is to hunter biden saying that. >> it's a pretty extraordinary thing to hear. i think it's a window into the pressures inside this family. the pressures on this man. i think just on a purely human

level what you hear him saying is his belief that the republican campaign against him is intended to drive him back into addiction, ultimately into the downward spiral which we've all known about, what he has written about. the core strength is his family, he talks about. i think it's a sign anderson of this stroortd qulition of the personal, the political, the guy at the center of it is the son of the president and we don't hear from him very often and this is a window into what he's going through. >> i spoke to president biden recently with my podcast, all there is focusing on grove and loss and the extent to which his system is the core that has pulled him through a lot of tragedy. i want to play just something he said. >> bo and hunt, finishes these other sentences they are closest they could possibly be.

and i think the loss of bo was a profound, profound impact on hunter. but when jill and i got married she was just totally embraced by them. everything we've done we've always done as a really close knit family. >> i thought it was interesting to hear him talk about the impact of bo biden's death on his brother. >> yeah, it is a huge piece of this story that we don't talk about very often. the death of bo biden honestly anderson as you know from your conversation with the president was the bomb going off in the family and the reverb rations went throughout the family. then vice president ginned made the decision not to run for. president but his son hunter began his downward descent. the things we talk about in his legal case in the investigations in congress are around that period. and you heard in the president's

voice and his conversation with you, he wanted and he sort of came right up to the point of talking about that impact and he stopped himself. i think there is a way in which he draws a line about what he will and will not say about hunter's legality problems because after all he doesn't want to be seen as putting a thumb on the scale. >> i want to play you something else the president said in the podcast. >> bo's son looks like him. hunter's son looks like bo. bo named his son hunter and hunter neighborhood his son bo. it's like i know it sounds stupid to people who haven't been through this. >> no it's beautiful. >> but there's this thing and i even find that i'll find one of my grandchildren doing what bo would have done. >> he was talking about just the importance of contact with hunter, with his daughter ashley, with all the members of his family, his grandchildren,

talking to them constantly throughout the day, reaching out to them each day. that is what for the president has really enabled him, it's begin him purpose beyond his pain as he said. >> that's exactly it. at one point i think in his interview with him we described grief as the glue that holds each together, that allows each to support each other. it is a family that has been through agony, not just once in 1972 but then of course in bo's death and you know when he talks about having constant contact with his surviving children with his grandchildren it is a big piece of how he organization his life. we don't -- organizes his life. we don't see that very often, it is only rarely that we get a feel of the pressures in a family like this. we haven't seen the pressures in the white house in a long time. >> jimmy carter's brother

getting into trouble and there were questions would the president distance himself from his brother. given hunter biden's importance and role in president biden's life, obviously they are deeply deeply connected as any father and son would and should be. >> yeah and that's not going to change. i can tell you one thing for sure anderson it is that people sometimes wonder why does hunter biden still play a public role in this system, why he is he in and out of the white house as much as he is, it's because jill and joe feel he's an essential piece of their lives, they are not going to change that. that is a piece of the president and a piece of the future. if anything their solution have been to bring him further not to push him away. >> if you want to see my full interview with president biden, you can scan the qr code, grief and loss is something we all

experience and don't talk about, i hope it helps, grief and loss, available wherever you get your podcast, just ahead, a teenage gunman who killed four fellow students. what the families said as they faced the killer in court next. testing testing

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it has been more than 2 million tumultuous years for the families and friend of the four victims killed in high school shooting. ?17 are included were killed on november 30 20 anyone. tonight their families and loved ones finally received some sense of justice after hours of gut wrenching emotional statements in court today. the shooter was sentenced for life in prison without parole.

>> families are finally getting their chance to be.>> our family has been navigating her way through complete hello. >> it is been two years already but it feels much like yesterday. >> medicine baldwin's mother describes the moment she learned her 17-year-old daughter was dead. >> on november 30, 2021 is a day that half has forever changed my life. it burned into my body like a cigarette burn. i looked through the glass and my screams should have shattered it. my daughter's lifeless body was leaking under cold metal gurney. >> after speaking in court nicole told cnn that she felt her daughter was with her today.>> i felt like she was saying i am proud of you. i'm proud of you for taking the higher route. not going down that path of anger. >> madeleine johnson did not now walking to class that day would be the last time she

would see her friend. >> i didn't think that goodbye was going to be permanent. i thought it was goodbye for an hour and i will see you next class. >> at first kylie thought a balloon popped and realized she was shot. >> i fell right to the ground. i remember hearing screams. i saw him running. but i could not run. i was already down. >> right next to her, donna saint juliana. >> realizing i was not alone, i kept trying to reassure her. someone will come help us don't worry just keep breathing and stay with me. i said that to her thousand times. >> hannah died from her injuries. her father spoke directly to the shooter of the future he still. >> i will never think back fondly of her high school and college graduations. i will never walk her down the aisle she begins the journey of starting her own family.

i am forever denied the chance to hold her or her future children in my arms. >> in addition to the four students killed, seven other people were shot that day but survived including randy france who was hit in the neck and molly darnell, a teacher at the school. looks like longer sleep without having flashbacks of a bullet entering one side of my neck and exiting the other. >> i came with in your line of sight and you intended to kill me. someone you didn't even know. >> the shooter was sentence to life in prison without parole. >> there is really nothing he could ever do to contribute to society that would make up for the lives that he has ruthlessly taken. >> i want the person that did this to know that madison would've been your friend . she would have treat me with kindness i do not killed her.

i hope you regret it. open eats away at you and i hope you feel a fraction of the loneliness that i felt over these last two years. >> what you still from us is not replaceable. what we won't let you steal is a life of normalcy. we will find a way to get there through forgiveness and putting good in this world. >> the parents of the shooter expected to stand trial themselves for involuntary manslaughter. >> this is a precedent-setting case. it's the first time in this country that the parents of a school mass shooter have been charged themselves with causing the shooting. just as you say they've been charged with involuntary manslaughter. prosecutors is saying you had notice, your sentimental issues, he was begging you for help.

nonetheless he bought him a gun. days later he committed this mass shooting. they have been tried together but just in the last few weeks the judge severed them because now they have independent defenses. looks like they may be going at each other. one of the parents will stand trial beginning january 23, 2024. it will be interesting. >> coming up next after this week after we hope brings you some happiness details on sunday night with attribute hosted by coates and an incredible night where we hundred 10 people making a difference in our world.