it looks like broken relationships, lost family, suicide attempts. >> reporter: melissa mccafferty attempted suicide six years ago. >> the level this organization pushed me to, and i am beyond lucky to be here today. i am beyond lucky. i do not know how i survived. i flat lined in the ambulance and at the hospital yet here i am. >> reporter: what do you say to the women and the men who have been sexually assaulted and who haven't told anyone? >> i feel stronger today than i did yesterday. you made me feel weak, no. now i'm stronger. >> reporter: pamela brown, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to pamela and the investigative team for that report. "cnn this morning" continues now. >> was he not being honest in

january of 2020 or has he just flipped his position? a revealing cnn town hall with ron desantis attacking donald trump on personal and policy terms. >> we are all in on nikki haley! >> the opposition is divided. it will allow trump to conquer. at least nine israeli soldiers including a commander killed. >> flooding the hamas network of tunnels flushing out militants. >> he has not given any support in a two-state solution which is important for the u.s. ukraine's president seeking more aid and congressional republicans resisting. >> we'll supply with critical supplies and equipment as long as we can. >> as long as it takes is the refrain we have long heard. >> this is exactly what vladimir putin has been waiting for. republicans have taken the next step in their impeachment inquiry into president biden, threatening to hold hunter biden in contempt of congress if he does not show. >> that's going to backfire.

good morning, everyone. you know that music. it's poll six. less than five weeks to go before the first votes are cast in iowa, and the gloves are coming off. florida governor ron desantis training his fire on front-runner donald trump in ways he never has before. at seemingly during every turn at last night's town hall. >> this comes as governor chris sununu endorses nikki haley. there's a lot to unpack. our jessica dean live in des moines. jessica, good morning to you. voters in that room getting to ask their questions, and i think hear from a tonally changed ron desantis. >> reporter: i think that's right. and phil is right, too. the music sets the stage. we're about five weeks from the iowa caucuses. things are getting serious in

iowa and voters are engaging for the first time trying to figure out who they want to support and last night we heard from governor ron desantis who went right after the front-runner, former president trump, and took those questions from the audience. so many people excited to have that just a few weeks before voting starts. republican presidential candidate governor ron desantis answering questions from iowa voters and taking aim at the gop front-runner. >> donald trump, when he gets off the teleprompter now, you don't know what he's going to say. i went to the rallies with donald trump. he said he was going to build the wall and have mexico pay for it, and that didn't happen. that last year with covid i think was mishandled dramatically. shutting down the country was a huge mistake. one thing in this race that's important to point out is donald trump flip-flopping on the right

to life. tweeting and attacking people created division we didn't need. >> reporter: disappointing poll numbers from the "des moines register" earlier this week showed trump still has a commanding lead in the state. he downplayed the polls, though, touting his ground organization in the hawkeye state. >> iowa voters will choose not pundits and polls. we have the best organization anyone has had in iowa, tens of thousands of iowans who have committed to caucus for us. >> reporter: fielding questions on foreign policy saying he feels israel over ukraine has the most need for u.s. assistance. >> it's the state of israel. they are our strongest ally. we have a relationship with them like no other, and they have the whole world against us. they require the united states to be with them and stand with them as the friend. ukraine has all of europe. these european countries need to start pulling their weight.

>> reporter: he is supporting congressional republicans who are refusing to authorize further military aid to ukraine unless more is done to secure the u.s. southern border. >> what they are saying is you have to defend our own country's borders before you start sending money all across this world. as president, i'll do the border on day one. day one we're going to declare it a national emergency. i'm sending the military to the southern border. we're going to stop the inflation. >> reporter: california governor gavin newsom, a surrogate for the re-election campaign, criticizing desantis' performance calling it, quote, his signature rant and scare tactics that offer no solutions to the real issues that matter to americans across the country. >> we are all in on nikki haley. >> reporter: in new hampshire former south carolina governor nikki haley winning out against desantis and others to get a highly sought endorsement from that state's governor, chris sununu. >> it doesn't get any better than this, to go and get

endorsed by the live free or die governor is about as rock solid of an endorsement as we could hope for. >> reporter: a big get for nikki haley as we head in this final stretch. the question remains and it looms over this primary. we saw governor desantis get the endorsement of kim reynolds in iowa. nikki haley has the endorsement of chris sununu. will it do anything to slow former president donald trump? we'll have to see what the voters have to say. to that back here in iowa we will see the former president in iowa today. he will make remarks and on the stage behind me we will see vivek ramaswamy, also running, he will take part in a town hall here on cnn with abby phillip.

>> jessica dean, thank you. with us former white house communications director kate bedingfield and anthony scarimucci. you know i was going to say for a shorter term but i didn't want to be mean, but you said it. >> i didn't think about that. that was a mistake. >> just remember, good things come in small packages. let's go. >> kate, who had a better night last night, ron desantis or nikki haley? >> i actually think ron desantis seemed sharper, more focused. he seemed to be making a case he sort of struggled to make throughout the primary, why him and not trump. so i thought he kind of showed a life that i hadn't seen from him yet. but the challenge for him, i think, he has put all of his eggs in the iowa basket, said many times i have to win iowa, i expect to win iowa. he's losing by 30 points.

there's still five weeks to go. for hip falling short in iowa is going to leave him with no momentum coming out of the contest whereas nikki haley has set up camp and got an endorsement. has set herself up. nikki probably had the better strategic night. >> 7:07 a.m. kate bedingfield complimented ron desantis. >> i'm going to lose my cred. >> be cool, guys. be cool. when you look at the dynamic poppy laid out, two big nights for two key candidates, give mean the case to make the point one of those two people has a chance. >> i think they probably don't have a chance in iowa, just

being totally candid, because the way it is set up but there is a chance in new hampshire. whether it's governor haley, desantis or christi, there can be crossover voting. i think they're all trying to see themselves, the ones that are behind, as john mccain, back in the day when john mccain was nowhere. by the way, we could go to president biden himself. he had a hard time in new hampshire. he obviously won in south carolina and so forth. so, to me, if you're the candidate and you believe that you can be president of the united states, you want to stay in the race and you want to fight until at least you hear from a voter not from a pundit or pollster. >> that's fair. how is trump going to take to desantis' big tickup in criticism of him? what's he going to do about it? what will he say in iowa about

it? >> he will bash him very hard, a lot of legislators are with president trump. he was neck and neck in the race and then the personal ridicule he's known for. governor desantis has a very goodbut he really hasn't shown up to be president. you look at him, the american people have a little test in their head. president, not president, and he has never rung the bell for large enough people. they don't see him as president. he doesn't have the riz -- is that a new name? >> a no percent chance poppy knows what you're talking about. i do and i respect -- >> i have no idea. >> and you know that and i know that.

>> i'm young. i'm hip. excuse me. >> i think that's going to press on as it relates to this. >> i am of the opinion -- i love where this went. the most important thing that happened in politics what happened in texas, based on everything we've seen in midterm elections, do we have the nikki haley sound from yesterday addressing the decision? it tracks with what we've seen in her positions on abortion despite saying she would sign a six-week abortion ban. every democrat i've talked to says don't fall for it. she has a legislative record, a record what she would endorse. messaging doesn't change that it's a death knell for republicans. >> she would sign a six-week ban, if she somehow managed to become the republican nominee

she will be tagged with that. the democrats will make clear she said just eight weeks ago she would sign a six-week ban if it came to her desk. yes, it is not a messaging problem. it's a substantive problem, voters have seen since the fall of roe, they have tried to take away women's rights. the issue has come under a rubric of freedom and choice and rights and republicans have been on the wrong side. so i think republicans have a credibility problem on this. nikki haley would and she just said she would sign a six-week ban. that's the position democrats would force her to defend. >> phil is right to point to her record as governor in south carolina. thanks anthony "riz"

scaramucci -- down to the bedazzled -- >> i've been to enough as a reporter. >> you have the riz, too. >> down to the bedazzled swag on your lapel. >> appreciate to have you. today on "inside politics" governor haley and chris sununu will sit down with dana bash. throwing his support behind the south carolina governor. the interview airs today at 12:00 p.m. eastern. how the biden administration is reacting to calls to stop providing unconditional aid to israel unless they do more to protect civilians in gaza. the tactic the israeli military is using to drown out hamas next.

this just in. we are learning president biden is expected to meet with the families of all eight unaccounted for americans thought to have been abducted by hamas on october 7th. the whereabouts of one woman and seven men are unknown following

the attack on israel, according to the white house. four americans have been released so far. this will be biden's first in-person meeting with the families of american hostages. he previously met with them via zoom in october. the israeli military suffering one of its deadliest losses yet in the war on gaza. the idf says nine soldiers including a commanders were killed in a single incident this is new video released by the israeli military and it shows how intense the fighting on the ground has been in the gaza strip. troops are taking covering craters. there is a growing rift between the united states and israel over the war in gaza and it is spilling out into public view as civilian casualties mount. president biden delivering his sharpest warning to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his hard-right government telling donors at a fund-raiser israel is losing support because of the indiscriminate bombing in gaza.

more than 18,000 people killed in the gaza strip since the launch of the military campaign. the biden administration is also making clear it has no plans to put any conditions on military aid for israel. that is despite growing pressure from democratic lawmakers and human rights groups over the staggering number of civilian losses in gaza. it's quite a juxtaposition. say these things at a fund-raiser, in public, listen to netanyahu saying, we disagree on the end game in gaza, and yet no conditions on aid y.? >> i think that's something else he said during that fund-raiser is indicative of how the president is thinking. he said, i'm having tough conversations with netanyahu. we're making clear they're losing support by the international community, but, at the same time, quote, we're not going to do a damn thing other than protect israel in the process. not a single thing. that really underscores how committed the president remains

to providing israel with this military equipment even as he and his team are increasingly disappointed by the number of civilian casualties the operation has incurred and so we're hearing the reason they don't want to put the conditions on the weaponry including bombs, of course, is because they believe the quiet pressure behind the scenes is having more of an impact on changing israel's behavior and point to the early days of the war when the israelis had a much larger scale operation in mind, that the u.s. was able to pull them back from. they believe they can influence israel's behavior and not through restricting the kind of military aid and equipment they send to the israelis. >> you have really interesting new reporting on a new tactic israel is using and it has to do with flooding some tunnels with salt water. what can you tell us? >> this is something the

israelis told the united states they are testing out on a limited basis and don't know if it will work yet because they want to drive fighters out of this very vast tunnel network but they reassured the united states they are only flooding tunnels with seawater they believe do not have hostages inside of them. they said to the united states they are being careful and testing this out on a limited basis. president biden said he is not confident there are no hostages in the tunnels. here is what he said. >> there are assertions made they are quite sure there are no hostages in the tunnels but i don't know that for a fact. >> reporter: so this shows how

dependent they are on what they're telling them. the u.s., of course, has a very large stake in the hostages' safety with american citizens being among the hostages, poppy. >> as the president gets ready to meet with those families in person. >> we appreciate your time. i want to start on the limited basis efforts. can you explain to people what that actually means and why there's confidence there wouldn't be civilians or hostages there? >> israel is having to find creative and innovative ways to deal with an unprecedented threat in urban warfare, a city of tunnels built in gaza by hamas to shield its terrorists. now i can't comment on the specific ways that our soldiers

are going about destroying the tunnels but we will, of course, be operating on the basis of precise intelligence. we will not do anything to harm the hostages. it is a central mission to bring the hostages home safe and sound. so many israelis, i have a dog tag that says bring them home now. this is an intensely personal issue for us in israel. 135 hostages. and we're committed to bringing them all home, the young and the old, we're committed to that pledge. there will be no one left behind and we'll do everything we can to bring them home while continuing with our campaign to destroy the hamas terror state in response to the atrocities. >> the president will be meeting, as we reported, with those families of the eight unaccounted for americans today. there has been a lot of discussion about the public view of at least what appeared to be a clear split between the prime minister and the president yesterday. the president's remarks at a

closed door fund-raiser. i see your skepticism in your face. why? >> president biden said in that statement that israel enjoys the support of most of the world and it enjoys the support of most of the world because everyone understands the atrocities of 10/7 cannot go unanswered and the response to those barbaric atrocities must be the end of the hamas terror regime. we know that some nations are perhaps losing nerve. they're losing nerve because hamas is working very hard to manufacture a humanitarian crisis in gaza and continues to operate in civilian dress, out of civilian areas, putting civilians in harm's way because it knows those images. thankfully the united states and the biden administration have had the moral clarity to say we have to stand by israel's side.

>> you make an important point. there is no talk of changing its posture. but the point that the president has been making and he said he had made to the prime minister in their calls is if what you're saying, other countries are losing their nerve, close allies, that is a big problem not for the u.s. and their support but for israel and what happens next and the process and time line of this conflict. >> we know that we're fighting the most moral fight imaginable, and that's a fight to bring justice to monsters. this war will end when it is safe for children to sleep in gaza and our allies know that and as part of that we're striking with unprecedented

precision. we know we with going after the terrorist who is did that. and doing it by taking steps no army in the history of counterterrorism in the world has taken to protect civilians. and part of our job is to continue reminding the world the efforts that we are making to minimize civilian casualties on the other side despite hamas' best efforts. it's sick, twisted, deranged. despite hamas' best efforts to manufacture the crisis because they think those images will generate industry that will stop us fighting and make sure hamas can never perpetrate another 10/7.

u.s. officials acknowledge given on what happened on october 7, exactly where the u.s. would be in a situation like that. however, the u.s. has made clear, repeatedly, it wants to see the palestinian authority or thinks the palestinian authority is the only real entity that's operational at this point that could lead gaza. the prime minister has been explicit that is not going to happen. he will not allow that to happen. how do you resolve this? >> unfortunately, the last time we gave the gaza strip on a platter in 2005, that led to the election of hamas and a coup hamas overthrew -- >> a two-state solution not on the table at this point? i'm not being flippant? >> you're asking me questions about -- no, no, i understand, but long-term horizon while we still have body bags of

unidentifiable remains. our objective is to destroy hamas in response to the 10/7 massacre and what will happen the day after is hamas will not governor the strip. they have been projecting blame onto israel and giving extensive diplomatic cover. the prime minister said hamas is an inseparable part of the palestinian fabric, and we're saying that whoever governs gaza the day after hamas must fight terror and not fund terror and must be clear that hamas has no place in palestinian politics instead of trying to make excuses for its crimes and saying it's an inseparable part of the palestinian fabric. >> we appreciate your time,

eylon levy, thank you. we'll be joined by john kirby with more on the u.s. support for israel and ukraine. breaking overnight, nearly 200 countries have agreed to transition away from planet destroying fossil fuels. why some say this historic deal still falls short. republican hopeful vivek ramaswamy joins abby phillip to take questions from voters. a cnn presidential town hall. vivek ramamaswamy toninight at p.m. e eastern.

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i'm here to thank you. new this morning, a lands mark deal reached at the cop28 summit in dubai that could push the globe away from using fossil fuels that contribute a lot to the climate crisis. does the deal have any teeth? bill weir joins us at the table. good morning. it's a good headline. >> it beats the alternative. optimist would say, wow, we have language that says the world is agreeing to move eventually away from fossil fuels, find a cleaner future. pessimists would say, it took us 30 years to finally mention the elephant in the room and it's pretty squishy. instead of like at paris, we will hold the line at this

temperature and do everything we can, there are eight different pathways. one would be to get off oil and gas and stop production and use and another would be to triple renewable energy. a saudi arabia could say we tripled solar power but are still doing other things at the same time. the activists who are saying this is not enough at this point but it is something. john kerry is talking with chinese counterparts. a lot of good came out, loss and damage fund for small countries, not big enough but it's there at least. commitments to dial down natural gas, huge contributor to the problem. you take your wins where you can. >> what will you be watching to see if this has an effect?

>> just follow the money. half a trillion dollars. people at cop say the end of fossil fuels is nye. they can't say it out loud. >> bill weir, thank you. three states are hearing cases about abortion rights. next, one leader working to protect abortion access in her state. governor kathy hochul live in studio next.

abortion will be back front and center in several states

across america this week. three state supreme courts are taking up lawsuits. this, of course, comes after texas on monday rejected a woman's request for an abortion under the state's medical emergency exception reversing a lower court's ruling that would have allowed her to end her high-risk pregnancy. joining us now democratic governor of new york kathy hochul. we appreciate your time. >> good morning. >> i want to start on texas. this is a very, very central issue, not just politically but as people try to understand the post-roe environment in particular states. what was your response when you saw it play out? >> this is the nightmare every woman has feared since we actually got the leaked memo about the dobbs decision that it would go against 50 years of rights women fought so hard for. my mother's generation fought for those rights. i benefited from those rights. and now those rights will not be there for my daughter and my granddaughter. so that is, to me, personally abho abhorrent. as a woman, it's tragic, but as

a governor, i have a different philosophy on this. we'll talk about what we're doing next november on the ballot in the state of new york. >> abortion will be on the ballot. it's going to be on the ballot to codify that right in the state as people go also to vote on, which is amazing that we don't have it yet, an equal rights amendment in this country for women. why is it important in a state like new york where you don't have the threat from the ledges lay tour of getting rid of abortion rights, to have that codified on the ballot this way? >> there are actually are threats. there was an election for governor last year and there was an opponent who had said he would put in a pro-life health commissioner. health commissioners have a lot of power. that could have happened right here in the state of new york regardless of what the law says. so as soon as we heard about dobbs, i convened the legislature in an emergency session. i said, let's get this codified not just in state law but enshrined in our state

constitution so future governors, whatever their philosophy may be, if it's at odds with these values, they will not be able to successfully strip those rights away from new york women. i'm calling on all state governors, regardless of your own philosophy, let the women of your state decide. it happened in kentucky. it happened in ohio. put it on the ballot. let these women decide their own destiny and not have men decide their health. >> you make a point, the electoral success on abortion that democrats have had on this issue over the course of not just the mid-term elections but off-year elections as well, new york will be center stage for the house of representatives to some degree. somebody would say you're just putting this on the ballot because you want a huge turnout for the 2024. >> that's pretty cynical because, as you pointed out, we don't even have an equal rights amendment in the state of new york so we are enshrining many

rights, lgbtq rights, rights for people with disabilities, all the rights that could be jeopardized by future governors and putting them on the ballot. this was a decision made prior to the dobbs decision, i assure you. it takes two cycles of the legislature. we've gone through four years ago. i would say i disagree with that assessment. this is time for a place like new york to stand up, be a beacon of hope and the safe harbor. women of texas, businesses in texas, who employ women, people who have wives and daughters and mothers, come to new york. come to a place and make a statement. >> do you see this as an economic case to be made to bring businesses that have fled to states like florida and texas because of their more seen as pro-business policies as coming back here as a result of that? >> first of all, we are pro-business in the state of new york -- >> i knew you were going to say. but you know the counter

argument. >> we're pro-women, we're freedom loving in the state of new york. we don't think mega judges and attorney general from the state of texas who are trying to elevate his profile and get more clicks and be the darling of the right should not be the ones who make these determinations. after the dobbs decision, i literally took out a full-page ad in "the wall street journal" and said, if you value your freedoms of your workers, come to new york where they'll be protected. other states where we actually honor women, respect them, and think they should be able to determine what happens to their own body and not have someone say to a young mother, kate cox, a 31-year-old, who wanted to grow her family and was so devastated when she found out her baby had a fetal genetic disease that could result in death upon -- even earlier, preterm death -- or as soon as the baby was born it would die, or the mother could die. this is the exception of the texas law provided, and the

judges still went against her. this shakes you to a core as a woman, and it is so reprehensible. i am proud to stand up not just for new york women but all across america and say this is wrong. this is our country, america, in 2024 almost. what have we come to? we must stand up in election time and change the course of history. >> you mentioned the election. i'm not connecting the two here, but there was a pretty significant moment yesterday in the state of new york in terms of redistricting where that might head going forward. is it your sense that democrats will, as aggressively, pursue specific maps as they did with it being overturned? >> my view is this. as governor, i have to make sure the process plays out according to law. that's all this was about. a judge in the rural part of new york had a different determination on who had those rights in the court of appeals

that i had some say over, they had a different opinion on this. i'm not putting my finger on the scale saying it should be good for democrats or republicans. it's not my job. my job is to say the process is if they can't come to a decision the state legislature decides. not a rural judge. that's all we're talking about here. >> it's seen as a big boon for democrats. we'll watch. >> we shall see. >> governor, nice to have you in studio. thank you very much. so this morning it appears president zelenskyy's visit to capitol hill did not do a lot to convince some republican lawmakers on supporting more aid for ukraine, at least without a border. john kirby i is with us s next..

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♪ this morning reports of some movement on capitol hill towards a deal that would provide that much needed additional aid to ukraine. it's far from a settled deal. the clock is ticking after president zelenskyy spent the day in washington yesterday urging u.s. officials to help his country. it appears zelenskyy's plea for more support failed to change some republican minds. republican senator john cornyn telling cnn he didn't move the needle at all. president biden announced yesterday the u.s. will release 200 million already approved funding to bolster ukraine's

defense but also appeared to acknowledge the current congressional climate changing w. listen to the president's pledge nor ukraine and support in june. >> i believe we will have the funding necessary to support ukraine as long as it takes. >> and here he is yesterday. >> we'll continue to supply ukraine with critical weapons and equipment as long as we can. >> from as long as it takes to as long as we can. with us from the white house is john kirby. the national security council coordinator for strategic communications. admiral, was that an intentional direct shift in the president's wording? >> the president still wants to support ukraine as long as it takes. he is reflecting the reality on capitol hill which is that we don't have additional funding now heading into the new year. so we're working hard to -- at the negotiating table to see if

we can't get that over the floin. >> we had secretary mayorkas on talking about the border last week and he said to me that, talking about some of the republican proposals, some, quote, are reasonable and werth of discussion. where is the witness willing to give on the border so you can get the ukraine funding? >> i won't negotiate on national tv and public about what we're talking about. but the president has said that he is willing to have a serious good faith negotiation with the other side. not just on border security. by the way, border security was baked into our supplemental request, some $6 billion. but also immigration policy. policies in general with the immigration system. he is willing to have a good faith negotiation over those things. >> that's the point, for example, senator langford, leading this on the republican side, is making. you guys, the white house, coupled this together in the supplemental and it's got to stay coupled for us to get ukraine funding. why is that wrong?

>> we didn't --sy didn't say it was wrong. we put border and ukraine and israel and indo-pacific funding in the supplemental. and we are not certainly walking away from the idea that there is a negotiation going on right now to talk about border security and immigration reform and to get funding for ukraine. we are approaching this pretty pragmatically. we understand that certainly in the republican side that they have got both of these sort of attached to one another. we are willing to engage, you know, in a very transparent way on both. >> i want to move to what the president is going to do today with hostages. he met with families of those hostages still being held by hamas on zoom a couple of months ago. it's going to be in person today. there was a striking moment where we saw you meeting with ruby chen. we had him on a number of times. his son is being held still indigenous gaza. let's play it for people. he is giving you a dog tag. i am sorry, we don't have it. it was moving moment when i

watched it this morning. phil sent it to me. and it's indicative of how much these families are relying on you guys to bring their loved ones home. can the white house guarantee you're gonna be able to do that? >> well, we will be able to guarantee today, and the president will meet with them, most in person, some virtually, that we are not going to lose sight on their loved ones. we are not going to stop trying to get them home. hour by hour, poppy, literally we are trying to get more information about them and to get them -- to get a deal in place where we can get them back home. jake sullivan, our national security advisor, is on his way right now. he will have meetings in tel aviv later tonight and tomorrow on this very issue. so it's something that the president is 100% committed to and that will be the message for the families today. >> certainly hope so. administration has had lot of success in bringing americans home. obviously, working on key others

as well. >> yeah. >> i think a lot of americans have questions about the u.s. position when it comes to aid for israel. granted, there is a special relationship there, but that aid remains unconditional despite what is clearly a growing divide between president biden and benjamin netanyahu on the gap between what israel says about proportionality and civilian casualties of palestinians and the execution and the end game. netanyahu was clear that he disagrees with the white house on what the end game for gaza should be. why is ukraine aid conditioned from the u.s. in a way that israel aid is not? >> well, i would say, first of all, every bit of security assist we provide another country comes with expectations about it being used appropriately. that's no different for israel or ukraine or any other country. there are always those expectation. it's got to be in accordance with international law. these are two different fights. the israelis are going after embedded terrorist activities and terrorist leaders ma it that

are hiding in infrastructure under tunnels in hospitals and schools. it's a fight against the terrorist network. what ukraine is doing is trying to win back territory that the russians occupied and took from them. it's a completely different fight n each case we talk to both of those partners with how our weapons and capabilities are being used and making sure they are being used in compliance with international law and the law of armed conflict. >> the u.s. conditions, aid to ukraine, they can't use -- yu.s provided weapons to attack inside of russia. more conditions. on that point i want to ask you about what the u.s. is looking into right now, admiral, on israel using phosphorous munitions supplied by the u.s. in an attack in southern lebanon that injured civilians. i know the guidelines are for quote legitimate purposes and keeping with the laws of our own conflict.

my question is, does the u.s. have certainty those two things are what happened here? >> we don't have full transparency and visibility an what happened in lebanon with the reported uses of white phosphorous. we want to know more. we are asking more questions of the israeli counterparts about those reports to see if they are accurate and how -- if white phosphorous was used, how it was used. it has legitimate purpose for illumination and concealing the movement of your troops. we have not provided any white phosphorous shells to israel since october 7th. >> so this would be f it were used prior. admiral kirby, thank you for being with us. and, obviously, our best thoughts for the important meeting today with the hostages' families. thanks. >> yes, ma'am. we'll be right back.