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between saying the fight is going to take months and also saying that different phases will take place at different times over those months. >> welcome. this morning, the white house working to downplay differences with israel on the timeline of this war. u.s. officials telling cnn the biden administration wants to transition to a lower intensity phase of the war within weeks, while israel says the fighting will last more than several months. meantime the house heading home without passing aid to ukraine and western intelligence agencies are gaming out just how long it can last without additional help. one american military official saying ukraine is certain to fail without us. we're going to take a closer look at that ominous timeline. on verdict watch this morning. jurors deciding how much rudy giuliani should pay for his election lies, specifically about two poll workers. they'll be deliberating again this morning. "cnn this morning" starts right now.
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good morning, everyone so glad you're with us this friday i'm poppy harlow with erica hill. good morning. phil is off today. right now, president biden's security adviser is heading to the west bank as the white house ramps up pressure on israel to reduce civilian casualties in gaza. jake sullivan downplaying differences between the biden administration and israel on how this war should proceed. >> a senior u.s. official telling cnn the white house wants israel to transition to a more targeted phase within weeks, possibly by the end of the year. israeli defense minister, however, says the fighting itself will last more than several months. alex marquardt asked about that timeline specifically, just a short time ago this morning. >> we're not here to tell anybody you must do x, you must do y. we're here to say this is our perspective, as your partner, as your friend, this is what we believe is the best way to achieve your tactical and strategic goals.
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we suspect that will occur in the future. when exactly that happens and under exactly what conditions will be a continuing and intensive discussion between the united states and israel. >> expected to happen, intense discussions, very important words there. we have team coverage this morning from the west bank to the white house. let's start with alex marquardt who joins us in ramallah. you made a lot of news with your question to jake sullivan this morning. is the u.s. on the same page with israel? or very different pages when it comes to whatever this next phase of the war is going to like? >> reporter: well, poppy, certainly the u.s. would like to see a transition at some point soon. the white house saying just yesterday they hope that it happens in the near future. but that was not being echoed by jake sullivan today. clearly he doesn't want to be seen on israeli soil as pressuring or telling israel what to do and there is also the possibility that the timeline slides. so they don't want to put any kind of date on it. you heard him say it is conditions-based.
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i asked him what the conditions would be and he didn't specify. but there is a belief that, for example, if the top leadership of hamas was killed, that that could speed up this timeline and can move into the lower intensity phase. so he's claiming that there is no contradiction between israeli leadership and what the u.s. is saying. we heard the defense minister saying yesterday this will take more than several months, and jake sullivan saying there that, yes, it could take many more months, but it could be in that lower intensity phase, where they're doing those more targeted counterterrorism operations, assassination attempts against top hamas leadership. poppy and erica, i asked sullivan about our exclusive reporting about all the dumb bombs that are being dropped on gaza, just shy of half of the bombs that have been dropped on gaza are unguided inprecise bombs, some prided to israel by the united states, and sullivan told me that when they're used,
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that they are dropped in different ways from planes. we have been told these are dive bombing techniques and also the process to choose the target is much more different with, of course, a priority on preserving civilian life. we heard in the past, u.s. officials very concerned that israel is not being persistent enough, not being surgical enough when it comes to protecting civilians. >> and to that point, alex, kevin, i want to ask you about this, sullivan speaking in tel aviv after president biden asked israel to be more careful to protect civilian life what are those conversations in the white house this morning? >> i think the white house is aware they're striking quite a balance here, very eager to say that they aren't dictating the war on the ground, on the battlefield, but certainly through the president's remarks and through other officials' remarks making clear that patience for this phase of the war, this phase that involves so many civilian deaths is not limitless. and, of course, it has been fascinating to seeing some of a
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rhetorical ark from the president, with a full on embrace of israel and over the last two months talking more and more about the plight of the palestinians and warning israel about these civilian deaths, to what he has said just this week talking about indiscriminate bombing of gaza and just yesterday saying that israel needed to be more careful. and he wanted them to be more focused on saving civilian lives. all of that amounts to the most critical that the president has been up to this point. and the backdrop to all of that, of course, is this growing pressure internationally and in the united states for the president to do more, to put pressure on israel to save civilians. it has been fascinating really for the first time in his presidency, president biden seen up close, at close range, this anger, whether it is outside the white house protests, outside of his house in wilmington, really a stark contrast for president biden as he weathers this conflict. >> alex, the key question of
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what -- how does this end? you're in the west bank, sullivan is going to meet there with palestinian authority leadership today. and the u.s. thinks the p.a. has to have some role in governing gaza whenever this ends, however this ends. netanyahu could not have been more clear a couple of days ago that he does not believe the p.a. should have any role in that. how do they get on a similar page? >> yeah, the term that is being used here is the day after. there is a lot of confusion about what that day after looks like. i should note that a lot of israeli officials are refusing to talk about a two-state solution right now, which is just extremely basic, you know, bare minimum bar for u.s. officials. but there is a lot of difference between what the u.s. is saying and what israel is saying in terms of post war governance, who will be in charge of not just gaza but the west bank as well. israel does not want the palestinian authority as it is right now, does not want mahmoud abbas, the president of the palestinian authority to have any role in gaza.
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what the u.s. said is they do see a role for the palestinian authority, they want a revamped and revitalized palestinian authority. what that means exactly, they're not saying. the big question, is there a role for mahmoud abbas? sullivan is not going to meet with him today and tell him to stop down. but abbas is a deeply unpopular person among the palestinians, seen as corrupt. many would like to see him go. at the same time this could be a contentious meeting not just for those reasons, but abbas is furious how the u.s. has been acting, refusing to call for a cease-fire, vetoing data at the united nations, abbas accused the u.s. of taking part in this bloodshed against palestinian civilians and he says being complicit with israeli war crimes. so it could be a tough day for jake sullivan. >> alex marquardt, kevin liptak, appreciate the reporting. new this morning, the idf says it recovered the bodies of two soldiers and one hostage who
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were abducted during the hamas terror attack of october 7th. israel's military said medical officials and rabbis helped with the identification. they also recovered the body of a 28-year-old hostage elia toledano. the body was recovered by a special operations force in gaza and brought back to israel. there are still 132 hostages kidnapped, ten seniors older than 75 and two children still being held hostage. overnight, a decision that could cripple ukraine on the battlefield as one european country blocks billions of dollars in military aid. and attention turns to congress. what senators will do next week. chris christie is doing something he hasn't been doing and hasn't been done in general on the campaign trail. his new attack ad directly taking on trump. >> there's only one candidate trying to stop trump, chris christie is the only one who can beat trump because he's the only
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one trying to beat trump. >> i'm in this race because the truth needs to be spoken. he is unfit.
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breaking overnight, the european union is not providing any more funding for ukraine. but in a historic move, it announced it would begin
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membership talks for kyiv. hungary was the only member state to block that $52 billion aid package. ukraine is not getting any money from the u.s. either. at least not yet. majority leader chuck schumer says the senate will delay their hol holidays, wants everybody back to work next week to potentially make that happen, saying yann w ukraine will, in his words, fail without american support. the house has adjourned but with a dire warning. >> is this an abdication of our responsibility? it is very dangerous and i just hope our friends and foes alike know that we're still going to be there, even though it looks a little scary right now. >> congressman there. russia continues its attacks on ukraine with new strikes in kherson this morning. lauren fox joins us from washington. the fact that we just saw the eu do this because hungary stopped it saying no more funding right
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now for ukraine, i wonder what sort of pressure that puts on the u.s. senate in particular right now to try to get some deal on immigration to try to get more funding for ukraine. >> yeah, poppy. two things are true right now. lawmakers who support additional aid to ukraine are feeling the crunch. that is why majority leader chuck schumer made the decision to bring the senate back next week, despite the fact they were scheduled to be away on holiday. the other reality is there is a lot of distance right now between republicans and democrats in these immigration talks, despite the fact that they have made progress over the last several days, despite the fact that they are going to continue meeting today and into the weekend to try to find some kind of middle ground. the basic dynamics of this debate and the challenges that have existed for the last several months, they have not gone away at this moment. and i think that most republican senators, even those who are very supportive of additional
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funding for ukraine, they argue this is a very tall order that the chances of getting an agreement, getting this put into legislative text, voting on the floor of the senate next week, and then kicking it over to the house and expecting them to come back, that is a huge, huge and major question right now. in fact, one of the leading senate negotiators, kyrsten sinema, i talked to her yesterday and i asked her had she gotten any commitment from speaker mike johnson if a deal can be reached in the senate, he's actually going to bring it to the floor. here's what she said. >> james, myself and others have all been communicating with speaker johnson. i've got a great relationship with him, i like him a whole lot. i know he's working through a lot of challenges of his own right now. and we'll be ready for this challenge when the senate is ready to send him something. >> has he given any assurances he would put it on the floor? >> i'm not going to share any information about private communications with you.
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i know that's no surprise. >> reporter: and the challenge is that sinema is referring to there is the fact that there are many house conservatives who are opposed to ukraine aid, no matter how robust the border policy changes would be as part of that package. and so that is really one of the unknown dynamics we have. even if senate negotiators can come to an agreement, which right now seems like it is a very long o.dd, you had this question of what happens in the house when lawmakers return in the new year. >> lauren, appreciate it. thank you. stocks soaring to record highs this week. unemployment pretty low. president biden not getting much credit for the economy with voters. why not? we'll talk about it. chris sununu joins "cnn this morning" to talk about his endorsement of nikki haley and why he thinks she's the one who can break trtrump's gripip on primimary votersrs.
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president biden facing some big political headwinds as the election approaches. the surge of migrants at the border, the wars in gaza and ukraine. the economy is getting better. voters not feeling it, or buying it yet or giving biden credit for it and now an impeachment inquiry, even though house republican members have yet to show proof of, quote, high crimes and misdemeanors.
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>> joining us now, sarah feinberg, strategic communications expert lee carter and cnn political commentator errol louis. good to have all of you with us. we have heard for so long this push on bidenomics and looks great out there, but what started as a tag line has really become a punch line at this point. if people don't feel it and they can't point to the stories, it doesn't matter. why is it so difficult for the administration or even the campaign to find those stories? >> it is really hard. and, look, i think the reality is is all of the numbers in the world on a day to day basis, headlines in newspapers or when you're in the checkout line at target or the grocery store, they feel -- they might feel okay for a minute. if your overall sense of well-being, sense of certainty, sense of security doesn't feel right, then you're not going to feel better. the gas prices coming down, i think makes everybody feel a little bit better.
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i, myself, drove several hours this week and i was, like, oh, $40 feels better than $70. so that's great. but the reality is if you feel like the country is not in a good place, on the right track, if you feel like your children aren't necessarily going to have a better shot than you, a better life than you, then the one off numbers don't help that much. >> mortgage rates dropping below 7%. inflation a couple better, inflation reports. >> inflation overall is better, but it is still worse than it was three years ago. prices are -- people are look at $11 packages of bacon. when you look at the polling, 62% of americans now say the economy feels bad. when you look at the 85% say personal experiences showing them things are worse. you look at the stock market rally, look at the fundamentals, and the biden administration can go out there and say the economy has never been stronger. that's just not the -- >> don't say the fundamentals of the economy are strong. >> that's right. don't do that. that's a bad message. that doesn't work.
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i think we're all -- we keep saying the same thing, we keep having the discussion, which is so fascinating to me that if he with are still at this point where you can't point to the fundamentals of the economy, because that just falls like a dead weight, why is there still such a disconnect in the messaging? >> look, it is very difficult to tell people that their perception, they're deeply felt perception is wrong. but, you know, certainly in an election season you don't want to do that. that's what somebody, whether the media or some other truth teller has to tell people. it is like, listen, you might think that we're at record high unemployment, but the opposite is true. we haven't seen anything like this. you can sort of point to, if you're going to -- if you want to approach it the way a politician would, you can point to the help wanted signs that you see everywhere. there are actual labor shortages. the reality is, if you go sort of sector by sector, town by town, and talk to people about what is happening with them, the difficulties, that's a very expensive conversation to have. >> i got to say, in these instances, i don't think the
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facts are going to set anybody free. i hate to say that, i love to say facts -- tell everybody what is happening and they're going to feel it. that's not the case. it is not their reality. i think the administration needs to say, like clinton did years go, i feel your pain, i understand how hard this is, but stick with me, because if you go, this is a journey. it is going to take a little bit more time, we're getting there. here are some things to look at to make you feel better, but i understand it has been difficult. i don't know why they can't do that. it would help so much if people just felt like their truth was acknowledged. >> one direct tie to the economy, actually is immigration. because some republicans will admit this, the data shows immigration in this country is net net positive for economic growth. on this debate over whether the biden administration will concede some on immigration policy to get ukraine funding, according to our reporting, the president has talked about being open to some concessions. what they're weighing includes,
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according to our sources, expelling migrants without a chance to seek asylum, so parole changes, and also more deportations and expanding detention. we talked to secretary mayorkas last week and here's what he told us about where he stands on the issues of parole and asylum. listen. >> we are a country of refuge. we do have asylum laws. we do have refugee laws. we abide by our international obligations that are long-standing. >> how much can the biden administration concede or give republicans on immigration without losing more of their support in the democratic party? >> i think the reality is democrats are paying a price for this issue at the moment. republicans are -- republicans have been holding up immigration reform for decades, right? they should be paying a political price. but they're not. democrats are paying that political price right now. and so i think, you know, the biden administration is rightly going give some things. and make a little movement here in order to get a deal. are they going to get a deal? that feels highly unlikely to
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me. i would love to see them get a deal, i would love to see immigration reform be done. i can't imagine they're going to get that done right now. >> that's right. it is tricky and it is not talked about often enough, but the republican leadership, it is not in their interest to get a deal on immigration. they will subtly, procedurely or rhetorically sabotage every effort to get there because without that, what would they talk about, right? it is something that they think of as a wedge issue, they think of it as something that whips up their especially rural base. gives them an excuse to target democratic mayors in big cities and so forth. serves too many political purposes for them to simply just, you know, negotiate it away. and at least through the next election. >> that's right. it is going to be really important for progressives in particular not to fall into a trap here. because they're going to -- their instinct is going to be attack the biden administration, say don't give an inch and that's what republicans want them to do. if they fall into that trap, what they need do is just turn and pivot and blame republicans for not having gotten this done
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for 15 years. >> i think, you know, the interesting thing about immigration is it has become more and more important to democrats and republicans, not just republican issues, not just looking at republicans saying compromise, it is the number three issue among democrats. you got about a third of democrats saying this is an important issue to address. it is not just about compromising with the republicans, it is about doing what the american people want. i agree with you, there is not an incentive for people to compromise. but that happens on both sides of the aisle. more than half of americans want politicians to compromise. you look at the fringe on both sides, you say, 70% of trump supporters, about 70% of the far left who say i want someone who will not compromise our values. and that is what is holding everything up. you got eight people in congress on the right, who are saying i will not compromise no matter what. you got similar things on left, where you have similar folks saying it is not in our interest to compromise. >> there is one area we got to jump, but, you know, expedited work approval for migrants already here, somewhere where
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they do, there is a lot of agreement and that would be net positive for the economy too. even to seeing some like that done, but we'll see. thank you, all, very much. talk to you again in a little bit. alleged terror plot with links to hamas foiled. what we know about the possible plan to attack jewish sites in europe. also this morning, the mayor of oakland, california, wants police to launch a hate crime investigation after a public menorah was destroyed, pieces thrown into a lake earlier this week. and a jewish community group posted photos showing graffiti where the menorah had been. police have not said who they think is responsible. the jewish community, though, mobilized to install a new menorah h the next d day. lookok at that..
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terror arrests in europe are raising concerns about the reach of hamas could extend beyond the middle east. authorities in germany and the netherlands arested four people they say were plotting attacks
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on jewish targets across europe. police officers in berlin seized evidence from a home tied to the investigation. officials say the suspects' mission was to locate an underground cache of weapons and bring them to berlin for attacks. this comes just days after the fbi and the department of homeland security released a bulletin warning that the war between israel and hamas could, quote, heighten the threat of lone actor violence, targeting large public gatherings throughout the winter. joining us now, thomas work at the atlantic council and former cou counterterrorism official. let's start on the arrests in europe. what do you make of them, and is it a heightened level of concern for you when you see these arrests or is this something that you actually anticipated? >> well, it was certainly expected both in the united states and in europe that hamas, which carried out that brutal terrorist attack against israel
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that killed more than 1200 people that it would continue to try to use terrorism around the world, targeting jewish, israeli and other kinds of targets. so, that was not a surprise. but i have to say, what made all of us sit up and take notice this time around is we're seeing a plot tactic that was pioneered by lebanese hezbollah in 2017. there were two fbi arrests of hezbollah operatives here in the united states, for trying to do something similar. there were similar plots that hezbollah, which is also sponsored by iran, as hamas is, had tried to do something similar in nigeria and in europe. the idea is you have one group of operatives hide a cache of explosive and weapons, and then a different group of operatives comes along later and this is where you really have a much
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more dangerous threat than what we're talking about in the u.s. >> so, when taking that into account, but looking at the threat here in the u.s., christopher wray saying recently they had never seen so many elevated threats at the same time. we have the warning released earlier this week from the fbi and dhs. important to note while they say there is a heightened threat, they weren't pointing to any specific incidents. how should americans be reading this, this morning? >> well, so the difference is that what the fbi director is talking about are lone actors, which are single individuals who are motivated by what they read on the internet or by cells of people who think the way they do, to try to carry out individual plots, using guns, cars, other kinds of low tech items. and so that's a different kind of threat. what i would say for americans is go about your holiday plans, enjoy the season, but do be
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aware of your surroundings. if you seeing some, say something. that actually is good advice. >> and it works as we have seen evidence of. it is interesting too this is not in many ways this is not new. so, you know, cnn has reported a 13-year-old in ohio is facing criminal charges now after allegedly crafting what is referred to as a detailed plan to carry out a mass shooting at a synagogue in september. the fact that this has existed for so long, this does predate the terror attacks, and yet we're still hearing the same -- the same advice, right, in terms of being vigilant, being on the lookout for things. people are extra concerned. what would you say to them in this environment? >> it is important just to be aware of things that might seem unusual. in almost all cases where individuals carry out these kinds of violent attacks, somebody knew something was off. something was wrong about the individual, they were behaving
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strangely. and what really helps is to be able to have the ability to go, either to law enforcement or to somebody who is not law enforcement, to say, look, my relative, my son, my friend, needs help. can we try to get them into a program that will lead them away from violence. these kinds of programs are effective, but somebody has to reach out to say, my friend needs help. >> i do want to note too, we have seen this incredibly important to point out the rise in anti-semitic attacks. there also has been an unprecedented spike according to care on islamophobic issues. 216% increase over the last year as we're keeping track of all this. it is a frightening trend but important to put it into perspective. tom, i appreciate the time this morning. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> look at those numbers. all right. politics, nikki haley could make history with her presidential bid. but you're not going to hear her
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talk about that a lot. how she's trying to appeal to women on the campaign trail and also not playing up her gendnde or pototentially b breaking tht glasass ceiling.g.
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nikki haley hopes to breakthrough the proverbial glass ceiling, but you will not hear her talk about that on the campaign trail.
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she rarely talks about how gender flunsz her politics. she is trying in ing to join a c exclusive club. jeff zeleny is live in washington with more. i'm looking forward to this report because it is interesting. she just doesn't talk about that point as much as you might think. >> good morning, poppy. it is interesting. nikki haley is gaining much more attention but she's focusing on her resume and her life experience. but on the campaign trail, this is obvious, there is a sense of growing enthusiasm. several voters told me they see her as the right person for the job, who just happens to be a woman. >> that's why i think you need a bad ass woman in charge of the white house. >> reporter: nikki haley is trying to break the highest glass cerealiling in politics. but you won't hear her say so. >> i think we're past the point
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of talking about that. she's the candidate. male or female. she's a strong candidate. >> reporter: thalia has a front row seat to the new hampshire primary and to haley's rise. whether or not it is history-making. >> it would be great to have a female president. that's not what it's about. >> reporter: as she courts all voters, haley takes great care to walk a fine line. wielding gender as a humorous shield -- >> i love all the attention, fellas, thank you for that. >> reporter: and a defensive sword. >> there are five inch heels and i don't wear them unless i can run in them. >> it is time to get the testosterone out of the white house and put a woman in there. but a specific woman. not kamala harris. but nikki haley. >> reporter: at campaign rallies, it is a sentiment echoing from iowa -- >> she's smart, she's tough, and she's passionate. >> reporter: -- to south carolina. >> she is level headed and she speaks to the issues rather than a lot of rhetoric.
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>> reporter: she's on a quest to draw suburban women back to the republican party, after so many fled during the era of donald trump. her support among that key demographic say leading reason she fares better in a hypothetical contest against president biden, polls show, even as a strong majority of republican women still back trump. >> we know her as crooked hillary. but to nikki haley, she is her role model. >> reporter: allies of ron desantis are trying to compare haley to hillary clinton in new tv ads that have been debunked as misleading. haley is on the air with ads of her own, featuring her husband, a national guardsman, in uniform. >> american strength doesn't start wars, it prevents them. that's what i'll do as president. >> reporter: as the final chapter of the primary comes into view, haley now rarely repeats a rallying cry from her announcement earlier this year. >> may the best woman win. >> reporter: she makes clear she is neither campaigning on gender politics, nor identity. a balance voters like erin take note of. >> just because you're a woman
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doesn't mean i'm going to vote for you. you have to be -- you have to be the right person. and i'm just happy that maybe the right person is finally a woman. >> reporter: whether talking about abortion -- >> i don't think the fellows know how to talk about it appropriately. >> reporter: -- or the economy. >> it hasn't been an easy time for young families at all. >> reporter: -- haley infuses her answers with life experiences as a woman and a mother, which draws admiration from her crowds. >> she's my voice. she speaks for me. >> reporter: but vicki makes clear that's not why she intends to give haley her vote. >> i would say it is time for the right resume. we're not looking at somebody, we're not going to box anybody in because you're a woman, because you're a first generation american, that's not who republicans are. >> reporter: so, of course, not all haley supporters are women. there are plenty men in her audience as well. not all republican women are backing haley. donald trump has a strong command of this race across all demographic groups, including women.
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but spending some time with her this week in new hampshire and in recent weeks in iowa and south carolina, one thing is clear, she asks people in her audiences if they're seeing her for the first time nearly half of the audiences raise their hand and many of those are women. erica, poppy. >> what a piece. interesting what erin told you, we're going to talk about it with the team here at the table. jeff, thank you very much for the reporting. >> you bet. >> they're all back. we can start on that. i'll hand that to you. >> i think it is a great point. >> this woman who was interviewed who said she appreciates the fact that haley doesn't use gender as a crutch, a word she used, and instead is focused on the issues et cetera. what do you make of that as a key strategy? >> i think it is smart. there are a huge number of women who don't want to be known as women, they want to be known as leaders. i think that's what she's done. she said, look, i am a leader, here's what i'm going to do. she uses her gender as part of who she is. i think some of those jabs, the
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fellows don't understand, she has a unique perspective, but she's not running because she's a woman, she doesn't want support because she's the first woman. that's smart. there is a whole generation of us who love that. recognize who i am and not what i am. >> she is resonating, she's resonating, we just saw from jeff's piece. we can't ignore, though, the large elephant in the room and what her chances actually are. how much better are things looking this morning for nikki haley? >> she is a very good politician, first and foremost. and i think things look pretty well for her to the extent that anybody can challenge trump for the nomination. that's a steep uphill climb, it is almost like a trick shot, you got to have a lot of things fall all at the same time, but she herself laid it out. a stronger than expected finish in iowa, maybe even a stronger finish in new hampshire as well. and then her home turf in south
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carolina and if she can pull out a victory anywhere among those first three states, she's really on her way. so, she's positioning herself well if she wants to be on the ticket. she's positioning herself if she wants a future doing something else. but it is still pretty -- it is going to be pretty hard. when the whispers or the discussion about trump turns into a roar because putting aside all of the legal issues, when you start winning some of those early states, that's going to dominate this channel and every other news cycle, every other news outlet and be very hard for her, i think, to pull that off. the one thing that i think that she does without even emphasizing it, just as jeff's piece made clear, is that she is the republican party's answer to where they have been failing on abortion over this last year. she is their answer. >> that's the biggest achilles heel, no? >> absolutely. that's why suburban women have been fleeing in every special election that we have seen, since the decision came down. she is part of their answer of
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how they get back in the game. >> do you think we should hear her talk more about i can win over the left, some of the left? let me ask you this as a former obama administration -- a lot of democrats that i know are, like, maybe nikki haley? >> i'm not sure that's totally true she can win over the left. >> not all of it, but some of it. >> i hear that a little bit, but what is also true is nikki haley is trying to say one thing in new hampshire and another thing in iowa. and as this goes along, all of those, like, sort of conservative parts are going to start to come out more and more. there is going to be a flat -- a bright light on those and so democrats and moderates are going to be, like, this is, like, she looked good a couple of months ago, but now this is a bridge too far. what i think is so interesting about her at this moment is she is clearly built for this. she loves it. she's having the time of her life. she's got momentum. she's having fun out there.
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i think she wakes up every morning and is like, i got three town halls, i'm excited. that is, like, really a huge contrast to donald trump. i mean, he is not out there, he's looking much older, he's moving slower, i mean, he's got all kinds of, you know, devils on his back, she's having the time of her life. >> you think voters feel that? >> i think it is going to become more and more obvious as we go along. she is this young, strong, you know, former governor, you know, basically running down the road in her heels. and he's, like, oh, man, i got 91 indictments on me. i hope people don't notice. >> she's young. >> super young. >> if not this time, there is a next and maybe a next. >> this isn't the last time we're going to see from her. i think the other thing we need to keep on mind is in other people dropped out of the race. that's the only way i think we could see her have a moment she's looking to have. >> thank you, guys. appreciate it very much. basketball superstar draymond green suspended indefinitely for hitting another
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player. his coach steve kerr explains why the suspension may ultimately be a positive. breaking news, a judge in the united kingdom just ruled that prince harry was indeed the victim of phone hacking by the tabloid group the mirror group newspapers. britain's high court ruling 15 stories published by the newspaper group used unlawful information and published those stories. that includes private investigators, prince harry sued the group saying they used the phone hacking to gather personal information on him for 15 years. he's awarded 180,000 u.s. dollars. the equivalent in pounds in that verdict, we'll give you a live update ahead.
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warriors head coach steve kerr is hoping that draymond green can get some help and change his ways during this indefinite suspension. andy scholz joining us now with more. andy, very positive spin on things there. >> well, yeah. trying to, erica and poppy. when we see draymond on an nba
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court again really at this point is anybody's guess. for now he'll remain with the team while he's suspended indefinitely. his hit of nurkic, that was his fourth violent incident in the past year. and when announcing the suspension, the league office said draymond would be required to meet certain league and team conditions before he returns to play. and warriors coach steve kerr says that, you know, he hopes this will finally spur change in draymond. >> this is not just about, you know, an outburst on the court. this is about his life. this is about someone who i believe in, someone who i have known for a decade who i love for his loyalty, his commitment, his passion, his love for his teammates, his friends, his family. we're trying to help that guy because the one who grabbed rudy, choked rudy, the one who took a wild flail at jusuf, the
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one who punched jordan last year, that's the guy who has to change. >> all right, week 15 of the nfl season kicking off last night. i guess the raiders decided last weekend, you know what, we're going to save all of our scoring for primetime on thursday because they scored zero points sunday against the vikings, but they put up a franchise record 63 last night. this was just an absolute route. o'connell throwing tds all over the field. he threw four of them. the raiders were up 42-0 at halftime. that was three short of the nfl record, which was set by tom brady and the patriots in 2009 and didn't let up in the second half either. they ran trickery here. myers throwing to adams. they had two defensive touchdowns to win 63-21, the most points ever given up by the chargers. and their head coach brandon staley was asked after the game
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if he suspects to be the coach today. he said, i don't know. just been a nightmare season for the chargers. not what they were expecting. >> you left out the most important part of that story, that is just what happened when you go up against the minnesota vikings, andy. >> oh, the vikings scored three points last sunday. not like -- >> what is more? what is more? >> three is more than zero. that is correct. great defensive effort. we'll see how the vikings do sunday. >> praying. >> saturday, saturday. >> thank you, andy. >> all right. "cnn this morning" continues right now. >> israel has right to go after hamas. and also has the responsibility to do so in a way that comports with our values. >> the million dollar question is what israel sees as its time frame. >> there is no point finishing this. it is not over. there is no point finishing this with hamas still alive. >> the $48 million question to rudy giuliani as a jur

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