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all the detroit news has some reportings of president trump telling officials in michigan not to certify the election. that is tonight on laura coates live. ♪ ♪ ♪
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well, there is a huge story coming out pretty late tonight. . it's about the detroit news and the reporting that it has recordings of president trump putting a lot of pressure on to wayne county canvassers not, not to certify the 2020 election. on that phone call back on november 17th of 2020, trump tells the two republicans, quote, we have got to fight for our country, we can't let these people take our country away from us. the detroit news said the chairman of the rnc tells them, quote, if you can go home tonight, do not sign it. we will get you attorneys. unquote. to which trump then says, quote, we will take care of that. well, that is something. someone who is under multiple counts of conspiracy to defraud the united states and its voters of the rightful outcome of the 2020 election. now, don't forget that this was a tight race in michigan. biden winning by the skin of his teeth, some would say. it is the latest piece of
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information that we're getting of many, of a fire hose worth of details of trump was actually doing to stay in power. now, it makes you wonder what else is out there that we're learning about this late december 2023. special counsel jack smith, i wonder, does he have something else up his sleeve? will we learn more information outside of these indictments? because right now smith is fighting, and i mean fighting, for the supreme court to decide whether trump has presidential immunity when it comes to the charges relate it january 6th. he is telling the court, quote, the charges are of the utmost gravity. this case involves for the first time in our nation's history criminal charges against a former president based on his actions while in office. now, trump's lawyers are trying to do the very opposite, they're asking the court not to intervene, to delay, delay, delay. but the high court is going to have to act, whether it wants to wade into 2024 politics or
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not. it will need to decide if trump is, in fact, immune and it decision we are learning could be imminent. here's law professor steve vladeck. >> i suspect we're going to hear from the supreme court one way or the other, probably by the end of the day tomorrow. i think the real question here is whether the justices want to move even faster than the d.c. circuit and the federal appeals court. >> it's going to decide if trump can be blocked from the colorado ballot. it will need to decide whether a federal obstruction law can be used to prosecute possible involved in the january 6th attack. it's going to be a to hear trump's arguments about gag orders and he now wants them to weigh in on a civil suit against him for defaming e. jean carroll. that is unlikely, of course, but he is asking. the question is, why is he asking? well, because a key priority for trump, in his presidency, a key focus was the judiciary appointing judges. he appointed more than 200
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federal judges and, of course, we know three supreme court justices. justices that he had a habit of referring to as his, quote unquote, judges. as if, maybe they are indebted to him. just so we are clear, they are not indebted to him or, they do not work for him. while he has moved the federal judiciary to the right in many ways, the conservative court has not always ruled in his favor. in 2022 it rejected his attempt to keep the house january 6th committee from getting presidential documents, former? that and, of course, remember this? the court gave the go ahead for congress to get a hold of trump's tax return and he thought tooth and nail to shield them. now they have to face this fire hose worth of trump cases, it's coming in so quickly and coming in hot. will they be his judges or will they be their own? i want to bring in jonathan can,
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lock it was a democratic member of that wayne county board of canvassers back in 2020. jonathan, thank you so much for being here tonight. a lot of people are hearing this for the very first time and they are stunned about not knowing it until now, but also wondering how much more is out there. what is your reaction to the details of this? this is the president being minutely involved in the county level to try to stay in office. what is your reaction? >> well, my reaction is after the republican on the board of canvas initially did not support certifying the election, we had a conversation or took a little break and we had a conversation in the back room to talk about the importance of them certifying the election. but, as we were talking, they did mention that they are under a lot of pressure. so, knowing they were under a
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lot of pressure when we reconvened we voted to certify the election and then we also voted to waive any reconsideration of the action that we talk. so they knew they were gonna be under a lot of pressure, but there is no way in the world would i or did i, or did anyone in that room know that the president of the united states would be calling in the parking lot to talk to two members of the wayne county board of canvases. we never would imagine it. but when we did find out that they had spoken with the president, when i asked monica bomber what did he talk about, why did he call, she said to me that he just thanked them for their service. i thought that was kind of awkward. so, we went along with the day and, next thing you, know we all of this coming out a few years later. >> jonathan, to hear somebody say that we're under a lot of pressure and you just think that they're talking about, a, or under a deadline, right?
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it's an election, we need to get the stone. who would have thought that they meant that the pressure was being placed on them from, as you say, a president of the united states? did you know anything about precisely what trump and, even rhonda mcdaniel, had told these canvassers before the story came out tonight or did you learn like the rest of us? >> not at all, i didn't have any idea. but, what they did say, they said they were under a lot of pressure. i knew and understood it to mean that they were under a lot of pressure from the party. i thought this was the demo -- the michigan republican party. so i just left it there. i never have imagined that the president, that the purpose of that call was to interfere with the election. of course, he was denying the election and all that, but i did not believe that it would actually interfere at that level. he -- we have never had, and it's one of the things that i mentioned to monica palmer and william hartman, we have never had any
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interference from our party, already officials, democratic or republican. the secretary of state governor or anyone have we ever had to worry about them calling us and trying to weigh in on certifying on the election. understanding this, that surging find the election was not about us determining anything. it is a ministerial duty here in michigan and there was nothing for us to decide. but, for some reason, they felt that -- i'm talking about they being the president of the united states and missed romney, that they could actually stop the process from moving forward. that is just amazing that with all the people around them that they did not understand michigan election law, and especially miss romney who has long ties with michigan political politics and political systems, that they would not know this. >> ron it mcdaniel, you're talking about, with the rnc.
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you know, for many people they are having a little bit of a, wherever i heard this before? it's somebody having a ceremonial or ministerial function to certify an election, someone telling them they shouldn't do so, it reminds me a lot of vice president mike pence and of course a january 6th. now that you know that this has happened and, we are really all learning about what pressure meant to these individuals, do you want to see an investigation into all of this? >> absolutely. what happened here in michigan and elsewhere around the country cannot happen again. we cannot have a single individual trying to turn election norms upside -- on a ted, to the point of a driving a people to believe that they are these high offices and if somehow unilaterally stop the people's voices from being heard. we absolutely need to take a look at this and i am sure that our attorney general and our
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secretary of state, who have been very involved in reviewing a lot of what has happened both before the 2020 general presidential election, as well as afterwards, this is just keeps spinning out of control. more and more information comes out about how they tried to undermine our state and nations election process. >> jonathan kinloch, i really wonder what else is out there. thank you so much for joining me tonight. >> thank you for inviting me. now i want to dig and all of this with an attorney, you know him, jeffrey toobin. he's the author of the nine, inside the secret world of the supreme court, as well as homegrown, timothy mcvay and the rise of right-wing extremism. jeffrey, it's good to see you. i want to pick your brain right now about this because, honestly, the fact that we're hearing about all of this, i mean, this is a call, another call, not just the brad raffensperger find me x number of votes, not just the
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discussed pressure campaigns that we know that's already documented, the fulton county allegations, or in jack smith's case, but now you're calling michigan. it seems to be more proof of this effort to stay in power. i have got to know, do you think that jack smith is going to try to use this as part of his case in d.c.? >> well certainly it is suggestive and potentially important. the most important thing, though, is what was actually said on the phone call. i haven't heard the phone call yet and everything depends on exactly what is said. on the one hand, if then president trump said, look, be careful, do your job, the scrupulous, don't rush, that is one thing. he's a first amendment right to say that. if he is saying don't do your job, don't do what the law requires you to do, which certainly is what he appeared to say to raffensperger in georgia, which is certainly a
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very important part of the case against him in georgia, that is potentially another criminal offense. but what is said is very important. the good news is it appears that this is on tape so jack smith and everyone else can decide, it won't be a matter of interpretation. we will know the actual facts. >> a jury is going to have to, if they look at this, a figure out how to weigh the credibility. but let's talk about not just a jury population or a court of public opinion, let's talk about the supreme court. they're gonna have to decide questions about presidential immunity and the colorado ballot issue. this is going to play out at a time when, for the second time in, what? decades now? the supreme court is going to weigh in very heavily, potentially to influence who is on the ballot and what the outcome might be, much to their own chagrin. how do you see it is shaking out? >> well, i think it depends on the issue. i think trump has some of these
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cases, his position is pretty strong. some of them it is pretty weak. >> i mean the immunity issue, particular. the immunity in colorado, what do you think? >> immunity is, to me, by far the most important case because that is really a life or death matter for jack smith's case in washington about january 6th. i think trump's position is very weak there. i think there is an outside chance that he will lose nine to nothing on that. the idea that a president can't be prosecuted's for packs that he committed while he was president, i mean, it really is as close as possible to saying that the president is above the law. and that, pretty much, is what the -- what his lawyers are climbing in the supreme court. remember, during the mueller investigation, we knew about the justice department policy.
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it's just a policy, not a lot, that you can't indict a sitting president while he is in office. what trump appears to be saying is that you can't indict him when he is out of office, either. that can't be right. you can't have one citizen in america who can't be indicted ever for crimes he committed. so i think there he is very likely to lose. >> about colorado? of course, that is an important one for different reasons, because you wonder, although colorado is a blue state, it was not determinative when you're talking 2016 or 2024 trump in particular, but this might catch some fire. it might be a bit of a blueprint for -- for lack of a better phrase. do you think the reasoning was sound to say, look, even without a criminal conviction, even without a charge of insurrection against him in a criminal court, he's got to be
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off the ballot? >> i think that's a case where trump is likely to win in the supreme court. this is a very major step. to say to the voters of a state, your opinion doesn't matter. that we are going to decide, in advance, that you do not have the right to vote for the candidate of your choice. now, it's true that section three of the 14th amendment does have this provision, which says that certain federal officers cannot serve if they engaged in insurrection. so there is some basis, but it has never happened before in american history that a presidential candidate has been taken off the ballot. i think that one route that the supreme court might take in ruling for trump here is saying, well, yes, this provision does exist but the procedures that
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colorado followed were insufficient to give trump a chance to refute the charge against him. he wasn't allowed to subpoena witnesses, he wasn't allowed to take depositions. i mean, that is a due process argument for and i think the court could go that direction and say, yes, in theory, he could be taken off the ballot, but given the way that colorado conducted the process it wasn't good enough. >> we will see, it's only a matter of time if you're looking to jack smith, it will be sooner than later. if you're looking to donald trump it will be later, never. jeffrey toobin -- >> the timing is everything. it is great to see you too, councillor. >> i know, i'll talk to you soon, thank you for coming on. >> bye-bye. coming up, a very special story that i want to bring you. i have got rare access to the troubled prison of rikers island in new york.
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why? while i was there with actors lala anthony, who's foundation is trying to help young inmates prepare for when they get out. that conversation and a very special moment is next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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there is a really important story i want to tell you about tonight, and it's related to an issue that is hugely critical, but often overlooked. incarceration. this country has one of the largest prison populations in the entire world, more than 1.2 million people and there are a lot of debates about why it is so high and what did you do about it. tonight, i want to talk about something that goes hand in hand in that very debate, rehabilitation. for inmates who do eventually get out when their sentences are up, re-entering society can
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be a real challenge. actress and activist law anthony is trying to change that. she's been running a program for the last year and a half that provides mentorship and life coaching for young men incarcerated on rikers island in new york city. it's prison where more than 6000 people are held, the facility is required by law to close in 2027 and the negative headlines about it just keep coming. a federal judge held the nyc department of correction in civil contempt just last week after it failed to be transparent about the opening of a new facility for people who set fires. while rikers faces criticism on the outside, lala anthony is doing her part to help rehabilitate people on the inside. i went to rikers island with her to talk to inmates that she is working with. today i'm outside of rikers island. it's a detention facility and were in the area that holding
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adults, specifically. i've never been inside before, most people have never been inside of this building. i'm going to take you inside and show you a bit about what is going in on inside the facility, but also, oftentimes we hear about rikers island for all the wrong reasons. today i'm going to highlight a particular program that is hoping to help people who are detained inside transition out when they get out. come with me. the program is called three 60. >> this is my family. >> led by actress and activist while anthony and aims to provide mentorship and re-entry skills to young man behind bars. >> this is what makes me happy. also seeing the changes that are happening, the beautiful things, seeing that when they do come out into society, the changed individuals they become. how they become assets to our community. >> those men, aged 18 to 21, make up almost 10% of the incarcerated population at rikers. >> i am just really intrigued as to what made you begin to do this? >> growing up and having
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different experiences with people that i cared about being incarcerated and always feeling like, what can i do? i can visit, i couldn't even put money on some of these books, i just felt helpless. a family got into a position where now i can really make a change, i can really do something. all of our children are one bad decision away from being here, being with the wrong crowd, being led the wrong way. any of them could be here and i would hope that there would be someone who would treat my own child with the same love and compassion that i treat these young men with. >> how important is that when you have that space? >> everyone needs something like that. where you can be honest and open, you can be you. >> young men like darius luis, he's been an rikers since june and is charged with first degree robbery. luis says the three 60 program has helped him change the way he sees himself and his future. >> it's not just because i'm in jail. when i first got here i was
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ready to lash out and act like another inmate, but it was a program that really showed me that i don't have to be whatever body is expecting. everybody is expecting bat out of me, everyone is expecting me to be ruthless, but i don't have to be that guy. >> raise your hand if you felt like, at some point in your life, you are going to end up in jail? >> i tell them, this is chapter in your life. this is not your entire life. what you do with this chapter will determine the rest of your life. so use this time wisely to become a better person, to make change, and never make excuses for them. i tell them they have to have accountability, they have to own up to whatever it is they did and they have to pay whatever price f what they did. but, during that understanding, having compassion for others. >> we're honored to have you with us today. >> on this day, law led a discussion group where participants examined life circumstances that led them to rikers. >> i came through the express booth going through.
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we made the best out of bad situations. >> were you surprised that there was the buy in from rikers to do a program like this? >> prior to this you only hear the negative, you only hear the negative. it took me really being here to see so many people who care so much about the population here, who cares so much about wanting these young men to change and do better with their lives. >> for a lot of people they know rikers for notorious reasons. >> it is difficult. i know what i'm capable of doing. i'm glad that the kids in my program have me as a resource to talk to when dealing with mental health or dealing with the struggles. this is jail. this is jail. there is nothing great about being in jail and they need outlets to express their frustration and emotions. i can't change the world, i can't change every bad thing that has ever happened i, can only do my part. >> looking to bring solutions to a place better known for its
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history of problems. a monitor appointed by a federal judge highlighted to safety concerns at the complex back in october. writing in a report that, quote, high levels of violence and fear among people in custody and staff remain a fact of daily living. just last week the department of correction was held in civil contempt for failing to tell the monitor about the opening of a restricted housing unit for inmates accused of setting fires. in response, the department's new commissioner said, while the court found it in contempt, there's an opportunity the purge. we remain committed to ensuring that people are safe and secure in our facilities. i spoke to the commissioner during my visit rikers. >> how are you trying to guard against, or to inform the public when there are moments when the department does not live up to what it wants to live up to? >> i was recently contained commissioner here and one of the things i pride myself on is
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transparency. i think that, if there is something that doesn't fall in line with what we should be doing, we are going to be very transparent about that. >> it's not just about putting in the work, but celebrating the progress they've made so far. >> slowly opening up, it's taking a while, but they're slowly starting to trust me. >> gathering for a special holiday meal brought in from the outside. >> we're thankful for law and everyone who came through, and showing us that family is here. >> a lot of times people don't recognize the good work that's being done here for this program. we have seen a lot of people transform. they're excited about the future. they are eager to go to school, they're eager to get a job, they're just eager to do better.
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to be in a mindset that there is a future. and so you have to plan for that. >> luis is already looking towards that future. >> before this program i -- -- would do you think they can relate to as you are? now >> we're gonna be surprised. the devil are gonna be surprised. >> i did not leave there the way i entered in, either. you know, i was a prosecutor for years. i've written about it extensively. i have shared a lot about the experience with you here on cnn and beyond. what struck me about this program that law law has and the young man who are part of it is that for many that
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feeling of community was so impactful. when we hear about wrongfully detained people we have to cover those stories as well. every time we talk about crime in this country, hard on crime, it doesn't and when a sentence actually is handed down. that at many respects, at the very beginning of much longer process to guard against a number of things, including recidivism and to, maybe, not just pursue justice in a courtroom, but catch it outside as well. you know, about 30 people have been through laila anthony's program and now michael is a student at columbia university. -- he's covering it now, come back.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ before the break, you heard about the incredible work being done by la la anthony's three 60 program at rikers island. now, i want to introduce you to one of the graduates. his name is michael bonilla, but his friends called him
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rondo. he spent 15 and a half months at rikers island, and today he is a student at columbia university. rondo joins me now. rondo, i am so happy you are here and talking about your story and your triumphs, really, but take us, rondo, to the beginning of your story. how did you land in writers and the first place. >> yeah, so i got arrested at the early age of 19, i just turned 19. i have been arrested before, i was already out on bail. i was around the wrong people, wrong decisions, the way i grew up. i felt like that was the way that i had to live because that's the only thing i know. that led me to be incarcerated in october of 2021. i served 15 and a half months and before i found a program, it was -- i had to do things, i had to see things i wasn't proud of. in order to survive in that environment, you have to do things you aren't proud of.
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>> people should know that the program is not universal. everyone is not a part of rikers. it is not even like -- something about you has to be a part of this program, and you were a part of it. talk to me about some of what you experienced before that program because most people know rikers as a notoriously dangerous place. just this year, the new york city council says at least three people died and one of the eighth presence on rikers island -- one of the eight detention centers. the staff attorney from legal aid society recently said this, there is a disregard for the health and well-being of the people living at rikers islands. can you explain to us what your everyday life was like in the jail before you were introduced to three 60 and lola anthony's program. >> of course. before i got introduced to them and before i got introduced to the -- it was very difficult. i had to fight. you had to be tough. the only respect violence. even if you were tried --
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you can try to mind your business, you can be the guy in the room where you can just be trying to read your book and to your time and go home. a lot of people end up going in there for robbery and things like that and end up leaving with four plus jail cases, slashing, things like that. a lot of people don't know that. does our consecutive, so people think they get over on these types of things and you end up being a case, so you take your time for the case and then 12 years for jail cases. so, it was very hard. i will not say it was easy, but i did what i had to do to survive, i did things i am not proud of, but i am just thankful that i was able to get something so positive out of an environment like that. to be able to talk to you guys about my experience there, coming from rikers, is a blessing, you know? so, i'm blast. >> well, tell me about what the program had for you. i know i sat in on some of the big conversations and comments happening, there were questions being asked for people to reflect their epically on their self awareness, talk about anger management, talk about
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ways to learn forgiveness, ways to extend grades, ways to do it to yourself as well, ways to think about how best to establish the coping mechanisms that you need in order to be successful and thrive in your own right. what parts of the program did you feel changed you the most? >> well, i want to say the way la la was able to talk to us, la la didn't label us, she didn't see us as the image that people portray on people who go to jail. the first time she came to rikers, she came with my mom, so that instantly gravitated to me, because who is coming in that's type of environment to see a bunch of young juvenile kids or whatever with these crazy cases with their mom. so, when i first saw that, i was like, all right, she obviously here for a good cause, and i wanted to know why because at the time, i didn't know who la la anthony was. but honestly, honestly really speaking, the program was very fun because a lot of us, as
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males, you have to put up discard. you have to be tough, you have to carry all this week as males. a lot of us carry these weights since we were kids, and a lot of us don't realize how that plays effect into the decision we make when we get older. so, la was very down to earth with us. and a lot of us wasn't expecting that. she is a celebrity, she has been on tv. we wasn't expecting her to be so -- to treat us like she knew as her whole life. i think that was one of the main things that really gravitated with us. and also, teaching us things like how to present yourself at court. a lot of us thought that just going to court is a regular thing. she was telling us about how to sit up, make sure you say good morning, things like that, make sure you come in, you present yourself. make sure you sleep early. she was telling us things like that, and a lot of people wouldn't even care twice to tell you things like that. and, she was there for every court date. >> wow. >> wow, her and britt. i love them. they were there every court date. i turned around, they were there. i came home, they were there.
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brock's supreme court, in public, they were there. think they're the whole time. >> you know, rondo, what you described i saw. just the way the love was evident and the compassion and empathy. i mean, she is the mother of a 16 year old son and i have an 11-year-old boy and i think to myself of all of you being my children and my sons. i won't tell you by actual age because you really could be my son, thank you very much, but listen, rondo, you have such a very bright future ahead of you. you are at columbia university. i think you have a -- i mean, a full ride, i hear? you are an exceptional student there as well. what are you doing? >> yeah, so, a little bit about the columbia thing. i got accepted to a program that colombia offers for recently incarcerated people. you have to submit an application that is a little complicated. i submitted mine and had a zoom with the lady and she told me that they granted it, so the upcoming -- i think i believe january or february i will be going there, participating in the cia
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program and, after that i will be a full student at columbia where i will be able to take three courses at a time. just to be able to walk into that building is absolutely crazy, and there are people that -- i did horrible in high school, okay? it is people who did absolutely wonderful and still didn't get accepted to that school, so being able to walk the hallways is just a blessing to be, especially from where i come from. i am beyond thankful. >> wow. i am thankful that you and i got a chance to talk right now, and i really, rondo, i wish you the best of luck. i really do. >> i really appreciate it, i really do. >> if the smile is any indication of the intellect, you've got a very bright minds, my friend, okay? why are you covering it up, rondo? i told you. >> i'm sorry, you told me about that. i am sorry. [laughter] >> all right, rondo take care. we will talk again, >> you too, bye. >> well, next, actress to rasheed pienses giving hollywood a message over pay disparity. we will share. >> people go, you work a lot?
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well, i have t to. ththe math ainin't massingng.
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to rashid p hansen is tired
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of being underpaid. during a siriusxm interview, gayle king asked the movie star and actress rumors of her thinking about quitting acting were actually true. and she broke down in tears, and said this. >> i am just tired of working so hard, being gracious at what i do, getting paid a fraction of the cost. i am tired of hearing my sister say the same thing over and over, you get tired. i hear people go, you work a lot. well, i have to. the math ain't math-ing. it seems every time i do something, i break another glass ceiling, when it is time to renegotiate, i am at the bottom again like i never did what i just did, and i am just tired. [crying] >> if i could give her any amount of energy to have
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her keep going, she is so talented. the start of the color purple admitted she almost didn't accept her role due to a pay disparity. can you imagine that? while she didn't share details about the specifics of the discrepancy in her offer, she said she hadn't received a trace since she start in the 2018 film proud mary. she said that as a black woman in hollywood, she finds herself negotiate in just to watch and match what she made on a previous proud. i want to bring in cnn contributor karen champion. carrie, this was such an irrational moment and i think, across industries frankly, so many of us, black women in particular, saw ourselves in that moment and nodded and affirmation and realization. tell me why that clip has triggered so many women of color. >> well, and i can speak truly for myself, i understood that we are tired. we are tired not seeing, not
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heard, the fight to be seen, the fight to be heard, underpaid, underappreciated, name all the under's. that we're tired represents so much. visually, i can see her exhaustion, i can't see how tired she was from the fight and the struggle to pull out a resume and say, i am also great. it is something ideal with. i am sure, laura, it is something you deal with. as you mentioned at the top of this, it is so many people across our industries. it is a real thing, it is not in our minds. we are all tired. >> it is true, when you see not just -- again, she is one particular field, but you can extrapolate even beyond and see if the exhaustion for so many. we talk about equal pay day, when it takes that amount of time for women of color to catch up to white women, let alone them to catch up to men as well. and you really do see this. and even in the accolades, sometimes that is a form of currency that gets you to the next level. that price is not always heaped
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upon women of color, and i would know, hollyberry was the first and last woman to win -- black woman to win an oscar, that was back in 2002 for monstrous ball. that all ties and, how we are priest with how we are paid. >> yeah, no. you are absolutely accurate about that. she was -- that was the very first time a black woman won leading actress role as far as an oscar is concerned. that is the highest of the high, right? if you are in hollywood, but i am sure she will tell you she will not get treated like the highest of the high. so, there is this sense that, and i will say with this interstate in particular, as taraji mentioned, every time she breaks one glass ceiling, she still has to prove who she is to get the same amount of pay. you mentioned black women's equal pay day. according to forbes, 67 cents on the white male counterparts dollar. i couldn't imagine what these actresses in hollywood are getting paid as opposed to
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their counterpart. and there is nothing that can actually be done about it because unless you have an a light, and i will use this quick example, laura. in the movie the help, i don't know if you remember it, jessica chastain said that she wanted to make sure octavia spencer was paid the same amount of money that she was paid. and i remember when they were doing this press tour and octavia spencer says, i have never been paid this amount of money in my entire life. i was paid five times my rate because jessica said so. so, we need more allies. normative allies, we need people who don't look like us to write for us. >> it's an unbelievable thing to think about. of course, you think it -- you hear a lot about it and the sports industry as well and how this is, and so many different spaces. i wonder, cari champion, if at some point, somebody will catch on that it is existing, not anecdotal, and systematic. thank you so much for joining us today. >> thank you. >> we will be right back.
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well, ryan gosling is bringing the can or cheat this christmas. the barbie start released a christmas version of the movie hit, i am just can, as part of his very own ep, and it is just in a time for the holidays. >> to put that manly hand in mine, i'm just ken.
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baby, i'm just can. merry christmas, barbie. wherever you are. >> [laughter] the new tune also features a music video. cause lung and company late at the track down in the studio as you see, bedazzled with christmas lights. in a festive mood? well, gosling isn't the only celebrity dropping a christmas hit this season. travis kelce made his senior debut with his brother, jason, on a fairytale of philadelphia, and within hours, the tune made its way up to the number one song on itunes. i wonder if there is a connection. thanks for watching, our coverage continues. >> i did m my hair, i i did d by papajamas. >> wherere are the g glasses? >> rigight here.
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>> good evening, anderson is off tonight, and we begin with breaking news. a new window into just how far

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