little these people had. some of the survivors had a bottle of water each day for sustenance. by the time we got there last night there were no mats or blankets left so we slept in our car. that's nothing compared to locals because they don't have a home to return to phil. >> it's a horrifying situation. really important piece. thank you very much. we want to remind you that ron desantis and nikki haley take questions directly from iowa voters in back-to-back events. the cnn republican town hall air live tonight at 9:00 eastern. >> i am excited to watch that because i think those are important moments that create moments but also it's about time for people to vote. >> and the focus on the voters is where it's at. cnn "news central" starts now. ♪

names revealed. who was mentioned in unsealed documents and their ties to jeffrey epstein as the next drop is imminent. can donald trump be disqualified from running for president? he's urging the supreme court to take up the case. will it take up the case, though? a drone strike in bagbaghdaa high ranking commander is dead. i'm john berman, kate is away. i'm here with the star of new year's eve, sara sidner. this is cnn "news central." we're waiting for the next batch of unsealed documents to drop related to jeffrey epstein, hundreds of pages were already released that happened on

wednesday under a december 18th, court order. they included deposition transcripts naming several prominent figures including prince andrew and former presidents donald trump and bill clinton. shimon prokupecz is joining us now. a lot of people were waiting for these names to come out to see who was in his orbit. it did you know necessarily mean they did anything illegal, but it does tie them to jeffrey epstein, who is a fallen figure by all measures. >> reporter: right. that's correct. it is important to note that none of these people named have been accused of any kind of criminal activity or wrong doing. these are not names that are necessarily new. we were expecting these names, of course. but it sort of highlights just the relationship and sort of what jeffrey epstein -- what his relationships were with these individuals. and for the first time, really for years, people have been fighting to look at these

documents and now finally we're getting our look at some of these documents and the new information. long awaited documents finally released. the first batch of sealed court filings pertaining to the late sex offender jeffrey epstein were made public wednesday. the documents stem from a civil defamation lawsuit brought in 2015 against ghislaine maxwell. prominent figures including prince andrew and former presidents bill clinton and donald trump included in a 2016 deposition of johana sborg. she said one time that clinton liked them young. when asked if clinton was a friend of epstein she said epstein had dealings with clinton. clinton has denied any kind of

criminal activity but in 2019 he admits to having flown on epstein's private plane but knew nothing of his terrible crimes. she recalled a time she was on one of his planes and pilots said they needed to land in atlantic city and jeffrey epstein said great we'll call up trump and go to the deposition. she said she never gave a massage to trump. this is the first statement of donald trump but he has not been prosecuted. >> this is ghislaine maxwell, who should be behind bars but it's interesting in this network of these men who have been trafficking young women and under age women for decades and the only person that's been prosecuted is a woman. there are many, many other people that should be held accounta accountable as well.

>> reporter: it also contains excerpts of the deposition of virginia guiffre. she said that epstein directed her to have sexual contact with people including bill richardson, prince andrew, and marvinminske. attorneys for maxwell said she has maintained her innocent. this is the first set of documents to be revealed with more expected in the coming weeks. the documents are expected to include nearly 200 names, including some of epstein's accusers, prominent business people and politicians. and so later today we do expect to see more documents certainly at any point the court will be releasing more documents. and this is expected to go on for days perhaps where we're going to be seeing more

documents. there's thousands of records. this is a lawsuit that's been going on since 2015 and finally after years of fighting we're getting to see what was in them. >> we should mention some of what happened in the case, he had so many people around him who were powerful and there's a lot of questions about if that power played a role about how he was treated even in the court system. >> right. >> great reporting. >> thanks. with us is the film director from the film "jeffrey epstein filthy rich". lisa, thank you for being here. you followed this case so closely. what's the important thing that came out of the first batch of documents? >> well, i think i haven't seen any real bombshells yet. i don't expect to see them because we've seen snippets of this information come out through the years. but i really think the new revelations are going to show the scale of jeffrey epstein's

power ring how the power and scale has allowed them to continue to keep this information under wraps, keep it private, evade justice, prosecution. we know just because their name might come out in these documents it doesn't mean any -- necessarily there's any guilt but there are some people that are guilty. let's face it, there will be. i think for the survivors, the attorneys who have been working so hard to bring this to light, i do think it gives them a sense of at least some satisfaction and some justice that we're keeping the conversation going and hopefully those that have, you know, participated or helped facilitate in the sex trafficking might be looked at again. so it'll be interesting to see, you know, what details really are new because, you know, there are some things that are new. but the names so far has not been surprising to me. >> you've been speaking with

survivors. how do they feel about this document release? >> well, i think there's some mixed emotions. i spoke to two who were featured in the documentaries that i was involved in last night and both of them, you know, do share they're glad there's attention, you know, being focused on this because there are so many people in this orbit, you know, thousands of people over decades who, you know, have been involved in some way or, you know, denied knowing him and now suddenly there's going to be some accountability that hey, guess what, now you're mentioned in these depositions. but these depositions, you know, for the victims, a lot of these women, you know, they told their stories in depositions hoping to get some sort of, you know, action taken against these people who abused them, and nothing happened. so top line information they

might have given us, you know, in the documentary and they told part of their story. but now part of them is kind of upset that the full deposition is going to be out there with very intimate details of what happened to them, the sex trafficking and who they might have been trafficked to. they do want to see this in the limelight so hopefully more people will be behind bars besides ghislaine maxwell, who's still denying even though she's convicted in a court of law, that she had nothing to do with it. >> the first batch was about 40 documents. we're expecting 250. what will you be laser focused on as the further documents are released? >> i'm interested in anything i haven't seen. i think some of the depositions i've been privy to just through court access and attorneys and whatnot. again, i guess i'm looking to

see if there's anything that's going to really put the focus on particular individuals who continue to deny that there was any involvement, you know, there's little snippets of president clinton that he likes them young, you know, does that mean anything? those are tidbits that i have not heard. i think the same prince andrew stories and all that, they've become tiresome actually. let's focus on the david copperfields and people like that that have been mentioned. let's face it, some of these people, another point the survivors have made is most of the people's names coming out are bankers, politicians, hollywood types and are people going to keep supporting their lifestyle, go to their movies, banking with these people that have been proven involved in some way. it's not saying they had sex with these young girls but it is

proving that there was some culpability when, in fact, they had been denying any involvement in the past. so, you know, i think that's what's interesting is that, you know, are people going to keep supporting these people and backing them and just, you know, going to their movies and voting for them and that kind of thing. >> lisa bryant we appreciate your time this morning. thank you so much. unprecedented stakes don't get much higher than that. right now the supreme court is facing a decision that ultimately could determine whether donald trump could ever become president again. he's asking the highest court to reverse a ruling in colorado that disqualified him from the ballot because the constitution bars insurrectionists. his lawyers arguing the colorado supreme court erred in how it described president trump's role in the events of january 6th,

2021, it was not insurrection and president trump in no way engaged in insurrection. so how will the supreme court respond? the 2024 election and dozens of criminal charges are all hanging in the balance. joan is leading us off here. what more are trump's lawyers arguing here, and in the end isn't it likely that the supreme court is going to take up this case because you don't just have colorado, there are other states that have made rulings on this. >> good morning, sara, you're right. we have donald trump's filing last night and he argues, as you say, that he did not engage in insurrection but he says that this provision in dispute of the constitution, the 14th amendment, section 3, that says that anyone who held office, took an oath to uphold the constitution then engaged in insurrection should never be

able to hold future office he said as a threshold matter that does not apply to the presidency and says it doesn't stand on his own. congress would have had to pass a law to enforce it. so there are several steps that the justices will have to consider before they even look at the key insurrection question you raised but then we get to the question of what are the justices going to do? right now they have three petitions from them, from donald trump, the colorado republican party and the colorado voters who started this case, who said that donald trump should be disqualified from the ballot because of the insurrection on january 6th, 2021. the justices, as i expect, over the next couple of days will likely decide whether they're going to take it and on the timetable. i agree that the justices are likely to take this case. they have discretion. they have discretion about when,

how and what questions they resolve. but i think because of what happened in colorado and what has happened in maine also to keep him off the ballot, these justices are going to have to weigh in. tomorrow they will meet for the first time in the new year, privately in their conference room, to look at several cases that have been pending. i can't imagine that they would not give this a first look together. and we could know by the end of friday or a few days into next week exactly what questions the justices will take up and a timetable. and i want to just give one other thing about the timetable. the colorado voters who started all this, have asked the supreme court to rule by february 11th. because on february 12th, that's when ballots start to be mailed out to colorado voters who have until supertuesday, march 5th to submit those. so they want a decision by then. the colorado republican party said just as long as you decide

by march 5th we'll be okay. donald trump didn't have any kind of timetable but he said this should be decided promptly, sara. >> i wonder if the supreme court will really look at the voters and what they need so that february 11th date is coming up really fast. we'll see what happens. >> that's right. >> thank you so much. what is now cnn senior legal analyst elie honing. i'm going to ask you to do something here. >> okay. >> which is put yourselves in the minds of the supreme court justices here. you for the purposes of this discussion are a supreme court justice. >> i've been confirmed. >> we should be so lucky. you have a lot on your plate and it's not just the colorado case. you have maybe three separate, huge election related issues to decide in the next few months. walk us through piece by piece how they might approach this, starting with the state cases and the 14th amendment. >> thinking like a pragmatic and practical justice i think they

are that. the supreme court generally likes to rule as narrowly as possible but also atz broad an effected as possible. looking at the colorado case, if they take the case, i agree with joan it's likely, not certain, but very likely they take this case. there's two ways to go in terms of how broadly they rule. they can if they want rule narrowly as to colorado. the ruling would read something like yes, the states do you have the ability to administer the 14th amendment themselves and yes or no colorado did or did not do that in a constitutional way therefore the ruling would fall or rise. but that would leave us to questions with other states, what happened with maine? did they do it correctly? option b, they can say the president is not an officer for purposes of the 14th amendment or it's up to congress not the individual states. if they rule that way it answers colorado and the other states. so if i had to guess, i would guess towards the latter because i don't think they want to

invite dozens more appeals. >> they don't want to hear more cases but probably don't want to weigh in on the biggest issue after all, which was is donald trump an insurrection. >> they're not going to, they don't take a body of facts and say such and such. that's for the lower courts. >> i think the justices might look at this as a larger pi picture. they don't just have the colorado case they have the case of immunity, criminal immunity. >> this is jack smith's criminal case, january 9th, there will be a.s in the court appeals in d.c. i think it's likely trump loses his immunity claim there. in which case i think he'll ask the supreme court to take the case. i don't know if the court takes it. it's a big issue but there hasn't been that much disparity. every court has said he's not immune.

so if they choose to stay hands off, whatever the court of appeals rules holds. >> so they can split the baby overrule the colorado case and then say he doesn't have immunity. but then the third thing is the idea of obstruction. they have said they'll rule on this. >> this is important too. they've taken the case. they haven't ruled yet but another january 6th rioter, fisher, his argument, he made this argument, that doesn't apply to what happened january 6th. that was rejected across the board below but the supreme court said we want to take it. if they say obstruction does not apply to january 6th two of jack smith's charges, the most serious charges are that charge. so that would jeopardize jack smith's charges. >> there's a succession of decisions the supreme court has to make. starts right now but could continue for months to come. >> it is history in the making.

>> great to have you here, elie honig. tonight iowa voters ask tough questions of nikki haley and ron desantis in back-to-back town halls. the now ex-harvard president speaks out and why she said the push to oust her is a bigger problem. and video of a defendant leaping over a judge's bench to attack her. the new charges he is facing when he is back in court this morning.

this just in, cnn is learning that it was the u.s. targeting a proxy group striking the base in baghdad that killed a high ranking commander and another fighter. it comes as militias have ramped up attacks against the u.s. since since october p 7th. natasha bertrand is joining us. what are you hearing? >> translator: this is. >> reporter: this is the second time in a week that the u.s. has targeted iran-backed militias in iraq. this is the second time the u.s. has targeted a leader, we're

told the vehicle was the only target here and it killed an associate of the commander of this pro-iran militia. it comes when tensions are high. the u.s. has been retaliating against iran backed proxy groups who have been launching strikes on u.s. and coalition forces in syria relentlessly, over 100 attacks since december 17th. when we asked the pentagon about the latest strike on the individual in baghdad, an official told us that the united states is continuing to take action to protect our forces in iraq and syria by addressing the threats they face. it's unclear at this point whether the iraqi government was notified in advance of the latest strike because it did take place in baghdad, the capital of iraq so it would be interesting if the u.s. decided not to notify the iraqis who have expressed anger over the continued u.s. strikes in iraq

on these militia groups. saying the strikes violate their sovereignty. but the u.s. has insisted they're going to take action wherever these pro-iran militia groups have been attacking forces and they have conducted as well a number of strikes in syria where we have seen several of these attacks take place in recent months. >> this portends a worry about a regional war that may be sparked. appreciate it. a huge night in iowa. back-to-back cnn town halls. ron desantis and nikki haley will answer voter questions as both try to beat each other, even as they still struggle whether to take on donald trump. desantis was pressed about why he has gone, quote, soft on trump. listen. >> well, first of all he won't debate. how am i -- he's not willing to get on the stage. he's not willing to answer

questions. he's in mar-a-lago. so, yeah, show up and debate. we're doing a debate january 10th in iowa, he was invited, he declined. reality is he's basically making a p mockery of this whole process by not showing up and answering people's questions. >> steve is in des moines this morning. what are you expecting tonight? i can see you in the room right now. >> reporter: that's right. they're going to be holding this event behind me in des moines, iowa. and the candidates are at this point trying to do everything they can to move the polls. they have stayed consistent over the last few months but i have to say in talking to iowans over the last few days there are a lot of people still making up their mind and they are open to alternatives to donald trump. you'll hear some of those individuals ask questions of ron desantis and nikki haley later

today. of course, haley and desantis have different objectives. governor desantis has spent a lot of money and time here, and anything short of a second place finish would be a major disappointment for them. h haley's camp have set lower expectations they want a good showing. last night at a town hall in new hampshire she had some interesting things to say about how she saw iowa and new hampshire shaking out. >> we have an opportunity to get this right. and i know we'll get it right. and i trust you. i trust every single one of you. you know how to do this. you know iowa starts it. you know that you correct it. you know that you continue to go -- [ applause ] >> and then my sweet state of south carolina brings it home. that's what we do. that's what we do.

>> reporter: now the desantis campaign took issue with that statement posting on social media, unreal, nikki haley belittles iowa caucus growers claiming their decisions need to be corrected by new hampshire voters. there is some historical precedent that iowans don't necessarily pick the winner. they have had a historical job of when ittling the field. but, you know, she will have to convince iowans to give her a strong showing to put some momentum at her back. although we have a conversation yesterday with the chief adviser for her superpac and he said i'm encouraged by the direction we're headed but we don't have to come in second place, ron has to come in first. john? >> steve contorno for us, thank you so much. joining us now is political

analyst and anchor john avlon. >> good morning. >> you heard that we know that iowa doesn't necessarily pick the president if you look at past but it's an important role. it's crunch time. trump promising to win big. is there anything you see that might change caucus goer's minds. >> yes. it's a process. it's interesting. in 2016 when donald trump lost to ted cruz, trump was ahead in the polls. >> not this big ahead. >> right. but there are a lot of undecided voters our reporters are talking to. particularly between desantis and haley. ron desantis is all in, he has the governor's endorsement, the evangelical, a ground game. if he can't make it a second i think he's toast. nikki haley has momentum nationally. and trump has been mia.

i heard ron desantis say, his debate and campaign could be seen as an insult to iowa voters. we know voters in iowa and new hampshire are going to have an impact on the direction of the republican party and the republic the next few weeks. >> we don't know what's going to happen in iowa we never do. we know what happens to the house. house republicans, the whole leadership endorsing donald trump before we see a single vote cast. what are your thoughts? >> that's what drives me crazy. look, this is a robust field. donald trump is in pole position clearly but not a front runner like most. this is not the second return of grover cleveland, just to drop the nerdish reference i'm fond of. this is someone who tried to overturn the election in the united states on the basis of a lie. the fact that the republican

leadership is rallying around him, including tom emmer, the whip who trump savaged weeks ago, it shows a lack of leadership, and cowardice and they're enabling and complicit in trump's attempt to whitewash history. >> i want to talk to you about desantis in iowa. there was concern he brought his young son and there was these negative ads he was like people were like your son is parroting ads after watching football games and he asked desantis how to clean up politics so that they can teach his son to do better. what's the answer? >> look -- >> negative ads work, right? >> negative ads work. and people from richard nixon down will tell you that people vote out of fear not love. but that is what -- we should aspire to something higher.

something for everyone to keep in mind is the responsibility of citizens and to vote for candidates who set an example for young folks to connect the best of our history with current politics. when you have that sense, realizing that politics' history in the present tense when you have people who treat it as smash mouth politics, that denigrates american democracy. it's all of us calling and responding to higher nature and rewarding to the candidate that so to speak to our hopes not our fears. >> there's lots of violent rhetoric that happens. >> we see it every day. >> last and quick question. i don't have as much time as i want. john, hush. john is laughing. immigration, this is a huge issue. >> it is. >> it's a polarizing issue. it is a real issue that needs to

be dealt with. republican, democrat, it doesn't matter what you are. republicans in the house, you see the republicans working with the democrats, democrats making recessions with the republicans in the senate but the house is a different story. house republicans making all of these demands saying the democrats aren't playing ball. do the house republicans want this to go through? it's not going to go through as it is. >> our own reporting and jake's interview with speaker johnson indicates they would rather a have the issue than so solve it. democrats have come around they have to deal with it and change asylum laws not just throw money at the problem. >> they don't want to solve it, they don't want to solve it right now. >> they don't want to it with a democratic president because he might get credit. which shows they're concerned about the issue. they're willing to let it play politics and fester and get a political win rather than dealing with it, which is what folks that are elected to do, deal with the problem. don't just demagogue.

>> and it's been going on for decades. governor ron desantis and nikki haley take questions from iowa voters in back-to-back cnn town hall events moderated tonight by kaitlan collins and erin burnett. the biden administrationon' nenew lawsuit against t texas. ththe latest f fight over r the southern b border.

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border politics is key in this election year. but aside from that, this is a lawsuit that comes on the heel of the justice department threatening to sue texas if they didn't back down from this controversial immigration law. texas didn't do that. the doj filed their lawsuit just yesterday. their argument is that this law, as you mentioned, undercuts federal authority because it is the federal government that enforces immigration law. it is solely their authority. and in this lawsuit that's the point the justice department is saying by saying quote texas cannot run its own immigration system. the efforts through sb-4 intrude on the federal government's government exclusive authority to regulate the entry and removal of noncitizens frustrate the united states immigration operation and proceedings and interfere with u.s. foreign relations sb-4 is invalid and must be enjoined. in other words the court should block this measure set to take

effect in march. and on that point, mexico also applauding the justice department for taking this measure because they too were angry about it happening to begin with. but zooming out here, john. this is part of the ongoing dispute between president biden and texas governor greg abbott over the handling of the u.s. border. the texas governor has launched his own border mission without any coordination with authorities. and that's an issue for those on the ground and the biden administration which has been alarmed by some of the actions that texas has taken and this is the second legal action the administration has taken this week against texas. they went to the supreme court to ask to cut razor wire they put in place with the shared border with mexico. so all of this shows that this dispute between the republican governor and the president is going to start playing out in

the courts. >> priscilla alvarez at the white house, thank you very much. the president of m.i.t. is laying out a four part plan after heavy criticism of her congressional testimony on anti-semitism. is it enough to keep her job after two others have lost theirs. and a nevada judge is recovering after a defendant -- look at this -- attacked her in the middle of the hearing. the new charges the defendant is facing this morning.

today reverend al sharpton is set to lead protests outside harvard donor bill acman's office in new york who was a vocal critic of claudine gay and her handling of anti-semitism on the campus. gay spoke out for the first time since her resignation this week acknowledging she made mistakes during her congressional testimony last month in making clear she believes the campaign

against her was driven in part by her skin color. she wrote my inbox has been flooded with death threats i've been called the n word more than i care to count. and she defended her academic writings against plagiarism allegations. >> reporter: this is claudine gay punching back against her critics arguing they relied on lies and insults. and this is a not so subtle jab at billionaire bill acman who led the campaign to end her presidency, a successful campaign. gay was the first black president in harvard's nearly 400 year history. and billionaire bill ackerman who led this campaign to end her

presidency, a successful campaign. remember, gay was the first black president in harvard's nearly 400 year history. and clearly she believes that race played a role in also making this the shortest presidency in harvard history. she wrote, they recycled tired racial stereotypes about black talent and temperament. they pushed a false narrative of indifference and incompetence. clearly the past few months have been a nightmare for har revardd there's a lot of people wondering how the harvard corporation allowed it to go this badly. one told me the harvard corporation deserved a failing grade and called for a membership shakeup. >> harvard is a critical global beacon of truth and, of course,

a national treasure. and for them to be so tone deaf to criticism was remarkable. they have damaged the brand significantly. so they deserve a generous d. they need to go through some change there in terms of the membership of the board. they perhaps need some more diversity of thought in there. >> sonnenfeld called out the lead corporation member, democratic donor, biden official, and said her silence the last few weeks have been deafening. other donors have called for her to step down. but harvard said that she's rejecting those calls, has no plans to step down. >> what's happening at m.i.t.? the president at m.i.t. was also part of that congressional testimony. >> that's right. it was almost a month ago. three college presidents testified before congress about anti-semitism. right now only the president of

m.i.t. is the only one still in power. and the resignation hitting the news the other day, bill acman put out a tweet saying you too sally? she's putting out efforts to address anti-semitism. she put out a memo acknowledging the war has caused deep pain around the world and m.i.t. and said it's an ongoing source of tension at the school. writing i'm using every lever able to address conflict on our campus, enhance the tenor of your discourse and help us find improved ways to live and work together here at m.i.t.. sh came up with ways to address free experience versus hate speech and trying to get a better sense how students feel about safety on campus and making s sure that diviversity

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these injuries were bad enough that the bailiff had to go to the hospital. and this judge is fine, but this guy is back in court at 9:00 a.m. our time, sara. >> this is incredible, and i am sure there are going to be changes for this defendant and his charges. thank you. and now, donald trump p takg the lelegal battlele fight rigi ththe supreme e koufrmt court.t. to duckduckgo on all your devie

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