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as he shows up unannounced at an oversight committee contempt hearing. chaos ensues. we are live from the hill with the latest. face-off in des moines, ron desantis and nikki haley going to jail -- toe to toe. their futures may be at stake but can they shrink the gap with front runner donald trump enough to shrink the race? as we set -- see the threat from climate change grow, there's good news about pollution in the united states. following these major stories and more coming in to cnn. >> thank you for joining us, i'm brianna keilar today in washington and there is drama in the nation's capital today point hunter biden in the spotlight on the hill. the presidents son shocking lawmakers and everyone this morning by showing up unexpectedly to sit in the audience during his own contempt of congress hearing. several minutes later, he departed the hearing while it was still in congress --
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progress. >> republican lawmakers subpoenaed him late last year as part of an impeachment inquiry into his father. hunter biden has said he will only testify in public. democrats this morning urged republicans to let him speak right then and there but biden and his team abruptly got up and left when republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene began speaking. we are following the latest on capitol hill and we have mj lee at the white house with that angle of all of this. melanie, how are lawmakers reacting to the surprise, unexpected experience dutch appearance? wear republicans and democrats alike were completely surprised by this appearance today from hunter biden. but that i s pretty much where
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the similarities end. democrats for their part welcomed hunter biden's appearance. they say this shows that if republicans really wanted to hear from the presidents son, they had the opportunity to do so today and that is the point that hunter biden himself and his legal team have made over and over again. he said he would testify publicly under oath but he does not want a closed-door deposition because he is worried republicans would selectively or cherry pick or leak his testimony. republicans have pushed back and said that's not how congressional subpoenas work and he doesn't get to dictate the terms of his appearance and they requested and demanded that he sit down for a closed- door deposition back in december. his appearance today created even more drama and political theatrics. it led to tense moments and really, republicans saw they surprised appearance as nothing more than a political stunt. let's listen. >> i think it shows just how blatant the contempt is. it's like i'll tell you. i'll show you. i think it just displays even
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just the fact that he was supposed to be here on december 13th in a deposition and goes to the capitol grounds and says, i'm willing to answer any question publicly and then leave us just shows just how blatant and brazen the contempt is. >> reporter: the voice you heard was jim jordan, the chairman of the house judiciary committee which also is going -- currently considering a resolution to hold hunter biden in contempt of congress. the expectation is both the house oversight committee and judiciary committee will at some point approve those contempt of resolution -- after that it is expected that really a remarkable moment on capitol hill today as we saw the showdown between congressional republicans and the president's son. >> thank you for the update. let's go to the white house
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with mj lee. we heard from press secretary -- in the last hour and she would not answer directly as to whether the white house knew that hunter biden was going to show up on capitol hill today. >> reporter: that's right. the white house had been quiet all day long about this issue since we saw hunter biden on capitol hill and i'm just coming out of that briefing where, as you said, the white house press secretary fielded a number of questions about hunter biden's appearance on the hill, including the question of whether the white house had been given any kind of heads up that he would be doing this and, multiple times, she declined to answer that question saying that hunter biden is a private citizen and preferring any detailed questions to his own legal team. something i pushed her on was this idea that the president's son has pulled this stunt of his own, when the white house has consistently said that everything related to the impeachment inquiry which has everything to do with the president's son has been a
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political stunt. that is something the white house press secretary wouldn't engage on either. this is an interesting difference from the last time we saw hunter biden on capitol hill when he, instead of sitting down for a deposition, decided to give a press conference instead and made this impassioned speech trying to separate out his own father, president biden, from his own legal troubles. at the time, you might remember the white house official said that had been forceful and that the president himself had been given a heads up. that he would be giving those remarks. but obviously, today, the white house, much more tightlipped and really not engaging on again, multiple questions that they got at the white house press briefing. i can tell you, for sure, there are many other things that the white house would rather be talking about and would rather be getting questions about, particularly given this moment in time that we are now in the calendar year 2024 mother re- elect campaign, the election,
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is just around the corner, this is certainly a tough issue for them and a sensitive issue for the white house and anything related to the president's son, one question that a colleague of mine just asked in the briefing was whether this was a political headache for the white house. that is not a question that karine jean-pierre would answer either. guys? >> she may not answer it but it seems we may have an inkling as to what the answer actually is. thank you. some breaking news in former president donald trump's civil fraud trial. lawyers for the former president had discussions with the judge on allowing trump to speak in his defense during closing arguments tomorrow. >> we've now learned the judge does not expect trump to speak in the court because trump failed to comply with preconditioned terms by the deadline. he wouldn't agree to them. this is what we learned. his attorney said he would not agree to them. tell us about this. what were these terms and why wouldn't the former president agreed to them?
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>> this was a highly unusual request to begin with that the former president wanted to speak as part of his team is closing arguments in the case and the judge said that it was unusual but he would allow trump to do it because he had the most to lose in this case and it's not before a jury. the judge himself will make the final decision in this so he said trump can do it but he has to comply with the order which is he has to make closing arguments. he can't testify. he can't introduce new evidence. he can't start campaigning, and he can't start talking about irrelevant matters and he said he wants trump to agree to that before he starts speaking in court as well as in advance and so trump's team came back and said that trump wouldn't agree to that because he shouldn't be restricted in saying what he wants to say.
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if you remember, when trump testified, he went off script. he started speaking essentially, turning the campaign, the witness stand, into a podium where he was campaigning. and the judge had to try to rein him in, telling trump's attorney then, you need to control your client or i will. the judge saying if trump won't agree to these terms, he's going to cut him off and he's not going to let him speak and if he violates his gag order, he will have him escorted out of the courtroom and find him no less than $50,000. trump is saying he will not agree to these terms and the judge having extended the deadline for them several times because they were having issues getting in contact with trump, he said, ultimately, take it or leave it, now or never. trump's team had until noon today to respond and they did not so at 12:12, the judge had informed trump's team by email that he was not going that he is not expecting him now to speak because he did not agree to comply with these terms. we have not heard anything officially from the trump camp in terms of whether or not they will try to reopen this, but trump's attorney said, is anyone surprised anymore? they have already signaled that they are going to appeal the decision. >> thank you for that reporting.
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let's get some analysis with ron brownstein and legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elliot williams. it's >> what do you make of this move by the judge in the trump case? >> on the one hand it's bad for the judge to say he would allow something and then not but it would turn the trial into a circus and the judge was right in wanting to limit what someone can say to closing arguments. closing arguments are meant to sum up the evidence that has been seen, not provide a political speech and turn what would have certainly been a somewhat somber occasion, maybe not the right word, but -- >> serious. it's >> right it's supposed to be serious and it would've turned into a political speech and declaring war on the deep state and all of the above. it was the right decision to do. why -- what circumstances there would've been for somebody who was already represented by competent counsel to give his own crazy statement is beyond me.
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>> outside the likelihood that he would have wanted to use this to give what amounts to a campaign speech. he has said he is going to appeal the decision so, legally, in the process, what justification, other than campaign motives, would there be for trump to seek this. >> well, what would be the argument, from a legal point of view, there really is no argument for doing this yourself if you have competent counsel and it is just another day in what has been a very successful strategy for him in the context of a republican primary. basically saying all of these indictments against him are politically motivated and they are going after me because they really want to silence you. it just has to be underlined again and again, polling sends a very different signal about how all of this may play in a general election and, they are still, i think, consistently in polls, the majority of americans were concerned about trump's action and, who are reluctant to elect someone who
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may face the kind of legal judgments that he is facing, even amidst all of this that we know about biden. in some ways, he may be trying to squeeze too much juice out of the lemon, by highlighting these when he's already in such a strong position in the republican primary. it's not as clear to me that keeping the focus on this is nearly as beneficial for him in the general election. it's >> that's a really interesting point. now to the drama. today, in washington, hundred -- hunter biden showing up to be in the audience of his own contempt hearing. sort of a what is happening now moment. but does this help him legally try to avoid prosecution by the doj for ultimately not testifying? >> i don't think it helps or hurts and here is why. the crime of contempt is for an individual who is aware of a subpoena and knowingly violates it and the case right now isn't so strong only because there
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have been negotiations with him. a lot of it in the press and a lot of it at these silly press conferences but he is still agreeing to appear. compared to some of the last high-profile ones we've seen. steve bannon, former aide to former president trump who declared war from the moment the subpoena came out and he was charged with contempt and ultimately convicted. compare that to mark meadows, white house chief of staff who actually did, despite what people think about him, go back and forth with congress, provide documents and at least appear -- attempt to appear. he was not charged and not convicted. because of these efforts, some of them being made in letters and comments, it's just not a strong case. >> you are skeptical that the doj would prosecute him? >> but not because of some vast political bias. just, the case simply does not -- it's more in the mark meadows round then the steve bannon realm and right now it doesn't appear the charges are likely. >> yet, to ron, it strikes me that republicans will likely use it to argue that there is an unbalanced system of justice
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that they will argue that it's unfair the doj didn't prosecute hunter biden for this. >> but as elliott points out, they did prosecute abandon and peter navarro and there were others who were not prosecuted. look, i think the right word is the one that you used before in talking about this. this is a headache for the white house but ultimately it is a sideshow. joe biden has serious issues with inflation and people worrying that he is too old but it is hard to imagine there are a large amount of voters out there who would otherwise vote for joe biden but would not because of hunter biden's activities. even questionable as some of them may have been like many in washington trying to emphasize his approximated power for people to promote his own business interests. i think the republican goal here is not so much even to weekend biden -- president biden through hunter biden as it is to create some kind of equivalency through all of the
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legal troubles facing trump. this is really another manifestation of how far they will go in every possible direction to defend trump's interests and i think in this case it is just to kind of create as much -- around the idea of, they all do it. >> there is some clear hypocrisy on this idea of a congressional subpoena. it should mean something, elliott, but we hear jim jordan talking to melanie and he is saying this is blatant contempt and it's like, dude, you defied -- a member of congress and you defied a congressional subpoena to talk about clearly something that you should have talked about. >> jim jordan himself now the chair of the house judiciary committee but also members of the trump administration themselves and wilbur ross didn't show up to a hearing. there was a long pattern of blowing off congressional subpoenas. so the idea that all of a sudden congress has this power that hunter biden is fighting is simply not the case.
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you know. >> it's just a shame where we are that it means nothing, right? >> it's just that's politics. they go back and forth and there's hypocrisy all the time but specifically on this issue where there is law and past conduct and precedent, it's sort of silly right now. >> thank you. appreciate the conversation. we are hours away from the republican debate in iowa. how coming in a strong second in the caucuses could propel nikki haley or ron desantis. we break down those numbers. secretary of state into the blinking urging israel to work with palestinians on a path to statehood. we speak live with a senior adviser to the israeli prime minister who has been opposed to that about what comes next in the war with hamas. and new reporting on the georgia district attorney who is spearheading the racketeering case against donald trump. why she is in the spotlight for an alleged improper relationship with a lawyer she
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tonight on cnn, governor ron desantis and nikki haley going to take the stage. this stage you see here in live pictures coming to us from drake university in des moines, iowa. they will take the stage for this primary debate just days ahead of the iowa caucuses. they will be going one-on-one with front runner donald trump. once again qualifying to be there, but again, a no-show. >> the kind of absence these two candidates should be used to by now. certainly something that iowan republicans are used to. he has yet to debate but he's only gained in polls in iowa. the margins do matter though. whatever the candidates are asked tonight, the question is, can they cut into donald trump's lead with five days left? let's discuss. harry, how high are the expectations for trump in the hawkeye state? how big a lead are we anticipating? >> they are skyhigh. if you got in a 737 and when all the way up to 5000 feet, you wouldn't even reach the
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expectations for donald trump. look at this lead that he had during the month of december. i'm interested to see what the polling looks like that comes up just before the caucuses but he was at 54% of the vote and had an over 30 point advantage over ron desantis whose back at 20%, nikki haley of 15%. his lead has only gotten larger and to put it into a historical context, would you know i love to do, look back at the biggest winners in iowa caucus history on the gop side. bob doll had the largest win ever at just 13 points. george w. bush, 11 points. mike huckabee at nine points. donald trump is ahead by 34 points on average right now so he is well ahead of anybody else in history. of course we have to wait and see what happens in those caucuses. >> i don't know if anyone has ever wanted to be a silver medalist more than going into these caucuses. explain why it is so crucial for desantis to be that silver medalist. >> oftentimes you want to go for the gold although i like
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the bronze but these folks are going for silver. why is ron desantis interested in getting the silver metal? the fact of the matter is, if he can't do well in iowa, where can he do well? he's pulling just 5% in new hampshire. in fifth place. he was behind not just haley and trump but behind christie and vivek ramaswamy. south carolina he's at 13% in third place. nationally he's at 11% tied for second. iowa is his best state outside of the state of florida so if you can't win in florida there's going to be real questions about whether or not he can actually stay in the race so for ron desantis, iowa is really important. that silver metal is really important. >> what about nikki haley? is a second place finish in iowa still a possibility for her? >> it's absolutely possible. she was only five points behind ron desantis in the last poll and if you listen to some of the reports on the ground, she
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has been surging. and i want to give you an idea of why that silver metal for nikki haley is so important and if you look historically speaking, look at the people who closed the biggest polling deficits in the state of new hampshire. it was those who outperform their iowa polls and of course, that is very hard back in 1984. he came in second in iowa. he came in first in new hampshire after a massive surge. john kerry also had a massive iowa surge and came in first in iowa. at this particular point, nikki haley is below 20% in iowa. so, the idea is, can i outperform my polls there and have to turn around and do well in new hampshire? and we spoke about the new hampshire poll yesterday, and what did we see? we saw that nikki haley was down but she was only down by
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seven points and there is plenty of history of folks overcoming deficits as large as nikki haley's at this point. john kerry in 2004 who went on to win the nomination and the same for john mccain in 2008. nikki haley has a lot to gain. she wants that silver. knocked desantis out of the race and go on to south carolina and win there. there is a road for nikki haley. ron desantis -- iowa could get a little scary for him. >> that was a bunch of pictures of people who were never president. >> precisely. >> they did win nominations though. two of them. >> better than nothing. >> thanks so much. a masked gunman storming a live tv broadcast as a tax and kidnappings terrorize the country. what we are learning about this violence gripping ecuador.
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by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. fear is gripping ecuador after the disappearance of two gang leaders set off a stunning wave of violence. kidnappings, explosions, and the takeover of a tv station all prompting the nation's president to declare an internal armed conflict. he's ordered the military to neutralize the country's powerful gangs after a suite of prison riots and high-profile escapes. >> one of the most disturbing incidents here was broadcast in real time. this is shocking video you are looking at. armed men storming the local television station in the city
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of guayaquil during a live broadcast. police successfully apprehended the gunmen and they tell cnn that no hostages were killed during the attack. patrick, tell us what you are learning. >> this time yesterday, armed gunmen came into this tv station in ecuador's largest city and took it by force, firing shots, forcing some employees to the floor at gunpoint and saying that they wanted to communicate a message to the president of ecuador, that he needed to back off his campaign against the gangs and ecuadorians are absolutely traumatized by what took place yesterday seeing this not only on live tv but attacks at universities and hospitals and prisons against police -- they've never seen a wave of violence quite like this before. it's all being fueled by these powerful drug gangs. gangs that are trafficking cocaine through ecuador to other places in the u.s. and europe. ecuador's president has sent troops out in the streets that has stabilized the situation for the time being but this was all kicked off when one of the
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highest profile criminals in the country, a gang member known as fito, escaped from prison and they don't know when or how it took place. officials saying they believed officials inside the prison helped him to escape. they will face charges but this is part of the larger problem. the corruption of the gangs is so malignant and widespread that you don't know who to trust in ecuador and that the gangs have become so powerful that it's not even clear yet whether the government can put a stop to them. >> patrick oppmann, thank you for that report. very alarming what is happening in ecuador. turning now to the israel hamas war, the united nations confirming a short time ago that he special representative of the secretary-general on sexual violence and conflict is going to be heading to israel and the west bank at the end of
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this month. the envoy plans to meet with survivors and witnesses of the october 7th hamas attacks to gather information on reports of crimes against female and male victims in israel. also today's secretary, antony blinken meeting with palestinian president discussing a future for palestinians in gaza. some israeli officials had talked about expelling palestinians from their land. >> we talked about the importance of reforming the palestinian authority, palestinian governments, so that it can effectively take responsibility for gaza that -- so gaza and the west bank can be reunited under palestinian leadership. what's so powerful in all our conversations throughout the strip is that countries do see a way forward through greater integration that actually provides real security for israel and guarantees for that security and a pathway to palestinian state. to get there, leaders have to
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make hard decisions. >> joining us now is the senior adviser to prime minister regimen netanyahu. thank you for being with us. we've heard the prime minister is opposed to a palestinian state. what is your reaction to antony blinken saying that what is so powerful in these conversations is the path to real security for israel includes a palestinian state? >> i think when secretary blinken talks about this, he is talking about something that is on the horizon come and not something that is doable today and today we are focusing on the immediate postwar situation in gaza once hamas has been defeated and there i think there is a lot of common ground. we say gaza has to be post hamas, hamas has to no longer be ruling there, that gaza will be demilitarized and gaza will be the radical artist -- d
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radicalized. >> it sounds like what benjamin netanyahu is talking about is also on the horizon. these are two efferent pitchers and what's on the horizon matters. if you have saudi arabia open to establishing diplomatic relations with israel, it would require an end to the war and practical steps. not a palestinian state immediately but practical steps which is something that could come sooner. are you shutting the door on that? >> definitely not. we have a formula in israel which is they should have all the power to rule themselves and none of the power to harm israel. the second part of the formula has become especially pronounced since the october 7th massacre. we never want to see palestinians cross the border like they did on october 7th and rudely attack, burn alive,
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behead our people ever again. so, there has to be demilitarization. we spoke about that, but the idea that palestinians should rule themselves, that is something that israel has accepted. >> officials in your government including your finance minister have proposed palestinians immigrating out of the gaza strip following the war. quote unquote voluntary immigration is what it was called. the u.s. of course adamantly opposing this. there is now a report out of israel that the proposal is off the table. is that true? >> 100%. it was never seriously on the table. we have a large cabinet. our ministerial staff have close to 40 people and you will get differences of opinion. but ultimately, decisions taken by the government and by the prime minister is that this has never been seriously
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entertained. >> it's not off the table because of u.s. opposition? >> no, it's not on the table because it's not serious. at the moment, we are focused on winning the war and on creating a postwar reality which will be battle -- better for palestinians and better for israelis. obviously we worry about our own people first. every country does. but -- gives the palestinians in gaza new hope of new future because hamas has been in power now for 16 years and what have they brought the people of gaza? misery, bloodshed, poverty. the people of gaza deserve better themselves. >> can you tell us more about this visit from the u.n. representative on sexual violence and conflict? when you read about it in is really press, it talks about an invitation for her to come, she is coming, she's going to be investigating, but the u.n. is clear, even though she is
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gathering information, she will be meeting with victims and released hostages, they say that her trip is not intended to be investigative. does this go far enough in your view? >> i think the feeling in israel and especially among the women's organizations is that the u.n. is late to the game here. but i suppose we could say better late than never. the evidence that has come out of hamas organized rapes, using rape as a weapon of war, brutalizing women and one of the hoarders of the situation is, my understanding, it's mostly women who were raped, murdered, and their bodies mutilated. terrible crimes against women. terrible crimes against humanity. and that is one of the reasons i think we say there can't be peace with this hamas regime.
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a regime in gaza that says every israeli man and woman is a target for this sort of atrocious behavior. you can't have peace with them. when they say to themselves they believe in permanent war with israel. they say themselves they would do october 7th with the rapes and the burnings and the murders, they would do all of that again. they say so publicly. it's crucial we win this war. this is a war against totality. a war against an organization committing horrific violence against innocent people. they must be defeated. their military machine must be destroyed. >> ambassador, what do you understand that she is coming to do and is that an important distinction? coming to investigate versus coming to gather information as we have seen evidence of these horrible atrocities that happened on october 7th? >> it's not clear to me. i'm only going by the public statements of the united nations but, as i said, she
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should have been here three months ago when this was -- >> you want her to investigate? is that important to israel? >> i think it's very important. it's important that the u.n. speaks the truth and here we've had over the years systematic anti-israel bias in the u.n. structure, may be reflected by her late coming now, that it took her so long to come here. but it's not just the israeli government that's talked about anti-europe bias in the united nations. two secretary generals publicly addressed the issue of anti- israel bias in the united nations. unfortunately, the current leadership of the united nations, instead of standing up and trying to fight internal biases in the u.n., seems to be embracing it, so it's good that she's coming. but, once again, it's late. >> mark, thank you so much. we appreciate your time today. >> thank you for having me. still ahead, allegations of
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new developments now could raise questions ahead of the election interference case against donald trump in georgia. we are learning that fulton county district attorney fani willis has been subpoenaed to appear as a witness in the lead prosecutor nathan wade's divorce proceedings. >> this week in an attempt to get the case thrown out, one of
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trumps fulton county co- defendants claimed that a court filing that willis and attorney nathan wade had an improper relationship and that they profited from working together. the document did not provide any evidence of wrongdoing. we have that: following this story for us. tell us what is happening here and how this could potentially impact the case in georgia. >> short-term it's creating an optics problem. fani willis has been under fire from political tags , she's been -- the entire time we are seeing this case. but right now we are seeing republicans and donald trump jump on the new allegations and use them to undermine the credibility of the entire case and as you mentioned, the defendant, mike roman, is trying to get the whole case against him thrown out. it remains to be seen if that will be the consequence here but in the short-term it's raising legitimate questions about why fani willis was not
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open about this. why she wasn't honest about it publicly. according to the records we have seen that this has been a relationship, allegedly, that has been going on for a wild now and she has been under a lot of scrutiny the entire time and now this is coming out at a sensitive moment in the investigation where, presumably heading towards a trial here and the credibility of the ultimate conviction potentially and the prosecution itself, does hang in the balance as far as her credibility. >> part of the allegation has to do with her using public funds to hire him, right? >> that's right. her entire team is paid by the taxpayer and that includes nathan wade. the defendant in the case is alleging that wade was all that not only not qualified but he is making more money than the rest of the people on the team are making. no direct evidence that is true, but, the subpoena in the divorce proceedings do provide an opportunity to where we may have to see fani willis answer some of these questions and week that we may get more questions about what is real and what is not real going
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on record with the most climate disasters in america. bill weir is joining us with more. i'm like debbie downer, but tell us why this is so important because we like the good news, too. >> welcome to the club, briana, i used to be fun at parties before i started talking about this stuff. you have to put it in context. 2% is better than nothing. it needs to be about 7% to meet president biden's goals of having admissions by the end of the decade right now, so it has to get a lot more ambitious but it's moving in the right direction, this is the result of firing coal plants. now comes the hard part, dialing back on liquefied natural gas and not tapping into oil reserves that we know
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that are out there. but it does give some credibility, now the big test is methane, if they can cap that, that's hugely important. >> what states in the u.s. are leading the charge? >> this is really interesting, boris, if you look at the top solar states, you would expect that california would be on that list but now florida is adding more solar, at a faster clip ever since the governor of each of those states sided with consumers over utilities out in california, they are cramping the incentives for solar power there but texas is a good solar state and look at the wind states, texas, iowa, we've got a debate there tonight, cuomo, kansas, illinois, the greenest states in america right now are mostly red, that speaks volumes about the economics of this beyond the politics, solar and
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wind plus battery storage are the cheapest forms of energy ever and it'll be interesting to see if, you know, popular culture is social liens and it's one thing to add a bunch of solar and it has to replace oil and gas over time and it's the wind down. >> so interesting, listen, it's a political talking point but money talks here, too, and it's so clear and it's interesting the statistics that you put up. thanks so much, great to have you on this. still ahead, fireworks on capitol hill, hunter biden making a surprise appearance in front of congress, then making a swift exit, we will breakdown
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