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found him liable last year for sexual abuse and defamation. e. jean carroll is seeking $10 million in damages, kate. >> and here in new hampshire, we will soon find out how everything that you just mentioned, john, and much more, will resonate in new hampshire, will impact voters' views here. new hampshire is next up in the republican presidential primary. donald trump's rivals nikki haley and ron desantis are already back on the campaign trail this morning. >> we are going to work this entire week to continue what we have been doing for 11 months and we are a stone's throw away from trump, and it is going to work in new hampshire. >> despite everything that they threw at us, and everyone against us, we have our ticket punched out of iowa. >> all right. some insight on all of that and trump's mindset as he is in court right now.
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kristen holmes is now in atkinson, about 40 minutes where i am, and where trump is going to be campaigning later today, and the weather has been following us, kristen. what are you learning? >> well, kate, it is such a joy to be in this snow and where it is not ice cold. i feel like i could take my coat off right now. you know, i am going to talk to trump's advisers today about where his mindset is. and they got in late last night to new york and in court all morning and this is what is leading up to last night, and this is the result they were looking for. they were hoping that ron desantis would come in second and this is crazy since trump spent the better part of the year attacking florida governor, but they are seeing a lot of momentum for nikki haley going into new hampshire and ron desantis does not have a path in new hampshire, but nikki haley does. so the fact that he came in second instead of nikki haley is good, the trump team believes because they believe it could have slowed down some of her momentum.
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now, kate, the other thing that we are watching is vivek ramaswamy, and we talked about it when chris christie dropped out of the race, and vivek ramaswamy does not own the voters, but looking at the type of voter that goes to vivek ramaswamy, the trump team believes those are also a trump voter. we also know that the vivek ramaswamy votes, voters are very enthusiastic and so him campaigning alongside donald trump is going to be an add. this is where their head is right now, and we are trying to figure out what is going to shift, but we know that they are concerned about new hampshire particularly about nikki haley, and they are spending millions of dollars between the campaign and the super pac advertising against haley and hitting her particularly hard on immigration, and that does not seem it is going to stop. they believe it is a key issue here in new hampshire, and the other thing to point out, we were originally told that he was only going to have two events. he would have an event right after the iowa caucuses in new
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hampshire and then we were not going to see him again until over the weekend, but now he is having an event almost every single day and only going to florida one day in between for melania trump's mother's funeral, so they are ramping up the presence in the state, and something they are watching with nikki haley, and hoping to stem her momentum, and hoping that her momentum was stymied last night. >> yes, and i am very interested to hear what trump's message in new hampshire is going to be today and who he is going to take on and who he does not take on and who he is going to leave out of the campaign speech specifically and intentionally, and we will find out soon enough. thank you, kristen. john? >> for the first time in decades donald trump is in the same room with his accuser e. jean carroll, the woman who sued him and won for sexual battery and defamation. cnn chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid is with us, and now, the jury selection
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is under way and moving quickly and what are some of the tea leaves that we can read thus far? >> it is that the jury is and now mouse, and they have faced threats, so they are going to be anonymous, and travel to court each day as a group, and sort of meet at a different site and then come to the courtroom. we know that the jury is going to be seated by noon and then opening statements will be under way, and here, the jury's job is to find out if trump owes damages to e. jean carroll and she is asking for $10 million and last yeare year, a separate that dealt with allegations that president trump sexuallyassault
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assaulted her in a department store, and that jury award her $5 million, and the judge says that verdict carries over and the jury just needs to look at damage. we have seen one notable incident here in the courtroom already this morning. his attorney, trump's attorney, al al alina haba who got up and asked the court to adjourn and not hold court so trump can attend his mother-in-law's funeral and the trump legal team asked to push back the case because of the funeral and the request was denied. notable that it would be brought up this question again, and this time she tailored the request and of course, the judge dismissed it, because there is no requirement for trump to be at the case, and he has no role, and again at the last trial, he did not show up at all, and the judge said, if he wants to testify, he can do it next monday, but he is not going to move the case, and seemed
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irritated that she was bringing it up again, but this is not a legal proceeding, but in some ways a campaign event as well, and here by bringing it up, she is serving not only as his lawyer, but really more as a spokesperson to amplify this idea that he is not getting a fair shake. >> and in many if not in most ways this is the first stop after winning the iowa caucuses. paula reid, thank you for that. and now, joining us is scott jennings and ana navarro, and talk not about the iowa caucuses, but the new hampshire primary. iowa was so yesterday. we learned already this morning, scott, that nikki haley who finished third in iowa basically says that she's done debating ron desantis, and she is not going to debate again unless donald trump shows up, and what do you think of that? >> i don't blame her, because the last time that she debated ron desantis hurt her and may have cost her second place in iowa, and plus she wants to keep the narrative alive that it is a
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two-person race which is the narrative of the speech last night which they wrote thinking that she would finish second and decided not the re-write when she finished third. it is true that she is competitive with donald trump in new hampshire and ron desantis is not. so for her to have any chance to keep the ball bouncing, she has to keep the focus on she and trump and hope that ron desantis doesn't find anything there, and he is pretty far down in the polls right now. >> is ron desantis competitive with donald trump anywhere? ana? >> not in new hampshire, certainly not in south carolina or florida or iowa. he was 30 points behind donald trump. i agree with scott. i think it is smart for nikki haley not to debate anymore. the last debate that we saw, all they did was to spar and fight with each other, and she is trying to be a little bit of the more positive force in this campaign. it is very hard to be the positive person when you are in this, you know what i then called the insult palooza which is what those two hours were
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like. neither gained much, but she certainly can't play the positive role and be in this tantrum and fighting and bickering with ron desantis. it is not good. >> and with that debate, she came with the website of the desantis lies and went to the well over and over, but she did not have a trump website, and she showed up to beat ron desantis, but it seems that she did not show up to beat trump, and now she is changing the strategy to well, i will run against trump and forget about desantis. >> and what about the strategy of ron desantis' current role in the campaign? >> i don't think that folks are going to get on ron desantis's back the same way, frankly, because he is a sitting governor with a lot of power for the next three years in tallahassee. so, he still has some money that he can extract from the special
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interests and lobbyists from tallahassee who are backing his campaign, because it is to their benefit to do so, and they are giving him time. i fully expect ron desantis to drop out before florida, because he is nowhere near donald trump in florida and the humiliation of losing his own state, and he has already lost the endorsement of the majority of the republicans in congress, and he has lost the endorsement of marco rubio and to lose florida i think that it would be a level of humiliation, the walk of shame that he'd have to make all of the way back to tallahassee would be way too painful. >> in it to beat trump or sink haley? >> in it on the hope that the hail mary or something like haley falls short in new hampshire and out of runway and she drops, and then they go off to south carolina and something in the atmosphere changes, and he catches a little bit of something that -- i mean, this
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is a total, like the old larry bird and magic johnson commercials off of the scoreboard and off of the bleaches and then nothing but net. that is what it would take. he has pinned the hopes on being competitive in south carolina, but as was pointed out, trump is still dominant there. >> he is in it for his own political future. he has termed out as governor of florida in three years, and so if he fails this miserably after all of the money he had, and after all of the endorsements and the structure that he had and the talk and the expectations, his chances of ever being a senator or continuing a political career are really slim. he needs to somehow rehab his ego, and frankly, it is a little sad, because he has gotten better, and i mean, it is a low bar, but he has gotten better in the last two the three weeks. >> and it is interesting, scott, you are mentioning in case something happens and the double bank shot off of the scoreboard
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and what not, but it is hard to conceive of what that could possibly be, and not saying impossible, but there was an entrance question in the poll in iowa and it had to do if donald trump is convicted of a crime, would he be fit for the presidency. 65% said yes, and 31% said no. in the republican caucuses where 60% also said that joe biden didn't win the election and how do you wrap your head around that? >> that is the most significant poll number of the night, because obviously republicans who have deep reservations about trump if he becomes convicted, of course, what we didn't ask and is probably true is that a significant chunk of those people would say that joe biden is also not fit for the presidency and so they are look agent a ballot where two people are not fit for the presidency, and if they go back, and trump
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loses a little chunk, and so if i were biden i would be reaching out to the people, and if i were trump, i would wonder if i can bleed any of these people and still be competitive? >> ana? >> donald trump has beaten me out of me all stock of belief. and we remember when he grabbed the women, and all of the evangelicals and the republican leadership shunned him for about three days. and three days later they were all backing him again, because he was the choice, the alternative to hillary clinton and the man they heard boast about sexual assault than hillary clinton, so i tend to agree with scott. >> it is the center right independence, and we did learn a lesson about this in the november '22 midterm and they
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would break against the dems, and they did not and the republicans underperform and now trump, himself, on the ballot with a conviction and we don't know if it is going to come to pass, and he could be acquitted which could have another impact. >> right now, it is about watching candidates and readjusting and posture themselves after iowa and in new hampshire, and so, thank you, scott jennings, and ana navarro, and we go to new hampshire where kate bolduan is. >> let's do that, john berman. what drove donald trump's dominating win in iowa, and how does it translate now to new hampshire. the state of play in new hampshire and the work that all of the candidates still need to do to win here. and the republican field shrinks further today. asa hutchinson and vivek ramaswamy dropping out of the race. where do their voters go? who benefits from this? all of this while donald trump
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okay. every single county, and 97 counties in iowa he won by more than 10 points except for story county where iowa state university is and johnson county where the university of iowa is, and this is one of my favorite numbers here today after the caucuses, and nikki haley leads in johnson county by a single vote. one vote, nikki haley leads in johnson county. we will see if that holds, 99% of the votes in. and one other number from iowa before we leave iowa behind is that we just got word that asa hutchinson has suspended his campaign. asa hutchinson received 191 votes in iowa. 191 votes, and donald trump now 56,260, and asa hutchinson who is one of the candidates who is willing to campaign directly against donald trump, and it got
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him 191 votes. as we go to new hampshire, one of the things closely here, and we will talk about it next week who can vote in the republican primary there, this is the voter registration in new hampshire. you can see 268,000 republicans, 262,000 democrats, and they can't vote in the republican primary, but this group here undeclared 143,000, and they can vote in the republican primary and they may make up most of the republican primary voters, and it is a very different group to reach than any of the voters in iowa, because they tend to be moderates and independents, and it is going to be interesting how the candidates approach them. we will get to new hampshire to find out the answer to that question, and kate bolduan is there. >> of course, you mean that i have the answers and we will go to the smart people with the answers, but you know, however it works. so we are back on the campaign trail here in new hampshire, and
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just hours after donald trump won the iowa caucuses and the republican field as john has mentioned is smaller today down essentially to three. asa hutchinson the latest presidential contender dropping out, and just last hour. more campaign headlines. nikki haley with something of a power play and putting out a statement saying this, and i will read what she says in part, we had five great debates in this debate, but donald trump has ducked all of them and nowhere else to hide, the next debate is with donald trump or joe biden and i look forward to it. so she is a no show for any more debates if it is her and ron desantis, and that is the question today. joining me right now for one of those answers and one of the smart people we are leaning on is the director of the new hampshire service center, andy smith, and as the candidates are leaving iowa and going to new
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hampshire, can you give us the state of play, what it is looking like on the ground in new hampshire that everyone should be aware of. >> i think it is pretty much the same as it was before iowa. iowa campaign and the new hampshire campaign have been going on simultaneously, bun does not rely on the other other than vivek ramaswamy dropping out. the hutchinson campaign is not going to have much, not going to lose too much or shift too much in new hampshire, and he was at zero percent. that said, new hampshire is a very different state than iowa. new hampshire has high turnout historically, and 40 to 50% in the primary compared with iowa which typically has in the 5% range or the 10% range, so it is a different group of people, and nonideological, and the other difference of iowa and new hampshire is that iowa has a lot of evangelical voters on the republican side, and new hampshire is the least religious state in the country, and those issues that resonate more with
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those more conservative voters and more closely conservative voter don't work here, and that means that this is a state that someone like nikki haley has a chance of winning, and maybe the only chance for a more moderate republican candidate to beat donald trump, but this is a place that she has the chance to do it. she has had momentum in recent weeks, and a poll last week showed her within single digits of trump. but she has a ways to go, and she has to consolidate more of the moderate vote in the state. she has some work to do. >> and nikki haley this morning said that she is a stone's throw from donald trump in new hampshire. you know, what is the polling equivalent of a stone's throw could be a question, but regardless, talk to me about where she needs to build. >> well, new hampshire as your previous discussion had said, we have a lot of what you call
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undeclared voters, and about 2/3 of them are up for grabs still, and maybe less than that. there is undeclared voters who are really republicans, and egg republicans in everything but registration, and those are the ones that haley is going after. right now, the undeclared is 43%, and trump at 17%, but unfortunately for her historically, it is the winner of the registered republicans who wins nomination, and in fact, no candidate has won the new hampshire primary without winning the plurality of the registered voters and trump was recently in the poll of 58%, but she is in a stone's throw of seven percentage points, but she needs a good arm to make up that distance, because it is a long way. >> is it clear to you when you say that there are, you know, however many undeclareds left, and new hampshire voters are known to break late, if you
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will, and what more they want to hear if there is one question they still need answered before they are comfortable in making decision? is that coming up in surveys? >> yeah, the thing that we are seeing in the surveys and the messaging corresponds with this is that donald trump has his supporters and the hard core supporters at 40%, 42%, and what the other candidates have to do is to convince the remaining republicans and the other voters out there is that they are incredible voters out there toe-to-toe in new hampshire and they are more importantly a chance of succeeding joe biden in new hampshire, and that what haley has behind her to use, and use some of the polling data coming out, and how well she does against biden and trump and that she is trump following
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without trump -- >> i will say that and how she stands in polls against joe biden is something that she has definitely already been leaning n and in and we can be sure that we will be hearing more of that on to ground here in new hampshire. andy, it is great to see you. thank you so much. >> pleasure to talk to you, kate. enjoy the snow. >> thank you. exciting times here in new hampshire. one week before new hampshire goes to the polls and florida governor ron desantis is going to be making his case and taking the questions directly from voters. wolf blitzer is going to be monitoring the cnn presidential town hall tonight at 9:00 p.m. easy for me to say, john. >> and now, the attorney in the
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pay in damages to e. jean carroll. back with me is legal affairs correspondent paula reid, and joining us is former legal prosecutor paula roger. now what we have seen in this courtroom already was a tense exchange between the trump attorney elena haba and the judge. >> she has a dual role. she is trump's attorney, and sheed is going to try the case on his behalf and she was in the new york civil case that we saw last week, and she is his spokesperson and she is working in both of the cases by once again engaging the judge on whether or not the case should move altogether or be off for one day, because trump's mother-in-law has passed away and there is a funeral thursday. they had previously asked for the whole case to be pushed back because of the funeral and denied. it was a little bit of a surprise when she brought it up today, because when the federal judges give you an answer, that
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is it, and bring it to the court of appeals, but she modified the request asking if they could not have court thursday for the funeral, and the judge said no. he does not have a need to be there everyday and he does not have a role, and if he wants to testify, he can do so monday. you can see that as a spokesperson, she is trying to frame the larger argument that he is being treated unfairly, because the average person is going to be coming home to say, he cannot attend the trial or the funeral and they don't understand that he does not have to be here and the last time that he had ta trial on this, for weeks and weeks, he did not show up a day, and trying to amplify the martyr narrative that the attorney is trying to do. >> it is a campaign stop. he is there the day after winning the iowa caucuses, and he does not have to be there and this is the first stop on the campaign trail after winning iowa and it is for a reason that you just laid out there.
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and jennifer rogers, there are legal issues here, because donald trump claims he wants to testify, but the judge has made clear, that he does not think it is a great idea, and if so, it has to be extraordinarily limited and if so, how? >> well, there was a different defamatory statement trial, and it resolved some of issues that would have been here, like, whether or not there was a sexual assault and whether or not trump assaulted her and defamed her when he denied doing so, and those are off of the table, because they have been resolved. so the only thing that is at issue the second defamatory statement, and if trump wants to testify, he is limited to issues related to damages. now, that can include his state of mind when he defamed her, but he cannot say, i did not defame her because i thought that my denials were true and he cannot say, i did not sexually assault her, and how he wants to dance around her is a tough question for the judge to handle it, so
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all in all, he will not testify, because it is too much of trying to dodge those bullets, and frankly, he won't be able to say the things that he wants to say. >> and e. jean carroll says she will testify. what do we expect there, and describe, you know, how we are talking about how this is a campaign stop, and it is not for her, because it is something that she has accused him of sexual assault, and accused him of rape and something that she has been processing for years. >> so she is going to be able to talk about how all of this has impacted her and the damages from this statement, and the defamatory statement in 2019, and what happened to her after that, and how she suffered and how she lost money, and how her career went into a tailspin all because he was calling her a liar and threats that she went through and all of the things that she went there is the focus of her testimony as she asks the jury for compensatory damages to pay her back for that, and punitive damages to punish
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donald trump for what he did here. >> will donald trump have to pay here and any time soon? >> yes, i think there is going to be damages here, because we saw a similar statement result in a $5 million overall award to her, and approximately $3 million related to the defamation, so i expect he going to have to pay, and will she get the money? likely, but not for a long time. we will have to see how the conduct influences jury on the larger questions. >> talk to me about that. >> sure. so jennifer wisely lays out the risks here, and he has to stay in a narrow lane if he wants to take the stand, but he had the same guardrails last week in civil court here in new york, and he still decided to address the court and for the life of him he could not stay within the guidelines given by the judge. and the judge knew what was coming and let him talk for a little bit and admonished the lawyers and cut them off, but this is federal court. the judge has put them on notice about any sort of effort to
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improperly participate in the case. there is a chance that there could be a bigger blow-back, and i'm not going to say that he is dragged out of court, and even if it leaves a bad impression on the jury, but it does amply ti the larger message here that he is being treated unfairly, and we also don't have cameras in the courtroom, and we have our great colleagues in there giving us the minute-by-minute updates and the messages getting out in the social media posts and he can spin it any way he wants, so it is going to be fascinating how he handles this federal courtroom and completely different and the first time to show up for this case. >> and it is interesting, because we are waiting for the first update from inside of that courtroom. thank you, both. the gilgo beach serial killer suspect is facing a new murder charge this morning. the attorney called the new dna evidence problematic and disturbing.
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moments ago the gilgo beach murder suspect entered a not guilty plea to a new charge of murder in the death of a fourth woman. he previously plead not guilty to murder charges in the deaths of three other women whose bodies were discovered near long island's gilgo beach a decade ago, but the new indictment
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reveals dna profiling of hair found on a belt bucker. joining us is alexis who is host of a show that is on television. >> i am not surprised, we knew that these charges were a long time coming, and very happy for the family, but given what we know about the other cases, this is fitting right in with what we suspect he has done and other three cases' m.o. already. >> and so this is what the attorney had to say about the new charges. let's listen in. all right. we don't have that sound.
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let me read you a version of it. today for the first time we learn about nuclear dapdana and are going to look at that, and the transfer of evidence which is disturbing to hear for the first time in 13 years that we have dna testing. that was a comment from defense attorney here and talk to me about the importance of the dna testing in the new charge and specifically the idea that this is the first they are hear of it. >> well, in this case, all of the juries that we know these days want to see the dna evidence, and they want the dna evidence to rely conclusively and people don't want to rely on the circumstantial evidence, so being able to have a strong airtight case against rex hure hurehu heuermann is essential. we are learning that the female
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hair from the heuermann family are being found there, and not only linking them to rex, but also presumably to his home. and to places in the home where his family members are also existing and living which is telling you a lot about also the boldness of rex heuermann, because we can surmise that they were committed in his home. so dna is going to be of paramount importance in this case and continues to be. >> it is going to be a few weeks before we see the suspect in court again. what questions do you hope to have answered in that time? >> well, in that time i'd love to know more about moreen brainard barnes' connection to the dna. we learned more about the cell phone activity, but we don't know much about the day that moreen brainard barnes crossed
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paths with him, and hopefully we will hlearn more about that the next time he is in case. >> that is february 6th. >> do you believe there is going to be a conviction in this case? >> yes, i do. the d.a. has expressed that he would not bring a case to trial that he didn't believe that he would win, and given the diligence and all of the meticulous nature of the evidence that they are releasing, they are not doing it until they are sure. >> thank you, alexis linkletter, for your expertise on this. >> thank you. and hbo show "succession" took home six emmys for their sixth season. what else happened on the emmys. and plus the new hampshire primary is one week away. donald trump just won the iowa caucuses, and we got some new
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i am so happy to be able to live ply dream and act out comedy and i say that every time and i just love comedy so much. >> that was quinta brunson last night became the first black woman to win an emmy as lead comedy actress since 1981 for her role in the show she created "abbott elementary." cnn entertainment correspondent elizabeth wagmeister is with us. a lot of us were watching the
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caucuses or football last night and missed this. what did we miss? >> good for you, john. i was watching the emmys, and it was a great show. anthony anderson was host, and he is getting rave reviews. he did an excellent job and, you know, sometimes these shows can be snarky, but last night was really celebratory not just for the tv shows from the past year but even staging reunions from some of the most iconic shows from the past 75 years. let's take a look. >> and the emmy goes to -- >> the big winner. >> "succession." >> was no spoiler. >> faster. wilder. >> reporter: "succession" closed its fourth and final season with best drama, best actress for sara snook and best actor, kieran culkin. >> don't pick it up. i couldn't do the button. i wasted all my time hugging everybody. i love you so much. >> reporter: best comedy more of a cliffhanger. >> "the bear."
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>> reporter: "the bear's" big win became more clear as its cast began racking up big wins including star jeremy allen white. >> thank you for believing in me when i had trouble believing in myself. >> are you leaving or just going to sit there? >> what did you say? >> say it again. >> reporter: "beef" won five emmys including best limited series and cast wins for ali wong and steven yeun who is character embraces self-worth over suicide. >> judgement and shame is a lonely place, but compassion and grace is where we can all meet. >> reporter: the emmys with a standing ovation for christina applegate more than two years after announcing she has multiple sclerosis. >> very few of you know me from that debut. i'm going to crying. baby birth grizzle on days of our lives. >> reporter: the emmy telecast
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honored groundbreaking shows like "cheers," "martin" and "the sopranos." >> it truly warms my heart to see how well men are doing in comedy now. >> reporter: tv legends carol burnett and marla gibbs, not afraid to poke fun at what has historically been a man's game. >> what's the secret to working in hollywood for so long? >> oh, that's easy, baby. the wage gap. >> reporter: social commentary was a theme throughout. >> i accept this award on behalf of every black and brown woman who have gone unheard yet over policed. >> reporter: rupaul's the most honored person of color addressing the politics of drag queen story hour after winning best reality tv competition. >> knowledge is power and if someone tries to restrict your access to power, they are trying to scare you, so listen to a drag queen.
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>> reporter: aside from rupaul making history there, it was a big night for diversity. five of the 12 acting awards went to actors of color and also a huge night for elton john who is officially in the rare egot club. he finally has his emmy in addition to his grammy, oscar and tony wins. john? >> seems like things are going well for elton john. thank you very much. we are getting updates from the manhattan federal courtroom. donald trump, his first campaign stop since winning the air quality caucuses. -- the iowa caucuses. he was found defaming e. jean carroll after her sexual abuse and rape allegations. almost the entire jury pool has said that they have heard about or read about the legal cases or criminal investigations involving donald trump. that probably won't affect jury selection, but a few jurors have
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said that they would not be able to give both sides a fair trial. interesting to see as they work this way through this jury pool. they want to get opening statements under way by this afternoon. just one of the things we are covering throughout the day. that and it is on to new hampshire for the republican presidential candidates. this is "cnn news central." "inside politics" is up next.
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