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>> so jean, what is the suspect's attorney saying about these new charges? >> well, the defense pleaded not guilty in court today and they also spoke after court. they think that a lot of this evidence is flimsy. the forensic testing wasn't done correctly. they believe that the burner phone, the cell phone, it's only pinging from a tower and that doesn't mean it's those actual phones. the district attorney says there's documentation otherwise. >> jean casarez reporting for us. thank you very much for that update. to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." important note. i'll be back later tonight, 9:00 p.m. eastern, for our cnn town hall with republican presidential candidate, ron desantis. live here in new hampshire. until then, thanks very much for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now.
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next, trump taking on new hampshire. the former president making his appearance after first spending most of his day in a new york courtroom. this as nikki haley is trying to force a two person race with trump and clean up her remarks declaring quote, the united states has never been a racist country. plus, she accused trump of groping her in an airplane. jessica leads will be "outfront" tonight and putin talking dom naks to all of ukraine. this as you'll see in a story first on "outfront." ukrainian military desperately trying to fight back with u.s. vehicles described as tank killers. you will see it all on the ground. let's go "outfront." good evening. "outfront" tonight, the last to arrive. after spending the day in a new york courtroom, president trump is in new hampshire. it comes on the heels of his huge win in iowa. he just started to speak about last night's caucuses.
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and he arrived this evening after spending his day in new york. as i said, in a courtroom. face-to-face with a woman he was found liable of sexually abusing and trump's court appearance today kicks off a trial about how much he will have to pay e. jean carroll for defamation related to that. the man who just won the iowa caucuses by more than any other contested candidate in american mystery spent his day in a courtroom. it is just worth saying that again and pausing for a moment to consider it because in some ways, it is hard to you know, square this with the reality that in many ways, it is business as usual on the campaign trail now. nikki haley trying to force a two-way race with trump even though she was a close third in iowa. today, she actually canceled her debate with desantis. >> he is not my concern. i'm going after trump. he's the front-runner. he's the one i'm seven points away from. he's the one we're fighting for. there's nobody else i need to
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debate. >> meantime, desantis coming to new hampshire is about to appear with wolf blitzer at a town hall in manchester. he was 30 points behind trump last night, but yet, listen to desantis' sell. >> donald trump obviously you know won the veictory, but half the people wanted somebody else. >> okay, desantis claiming he's that person. but just for reality here. desantis only won one group. young voters under 29. yes, haley won one county. the only one trump didn't, by one vote. but turn out, yeah, lowest in 24 years, but these layers of the onion do not change the bottom line, cwhich that trump's victoy was overwhelming and the next few days in new hampshire will show whether trump can continue to build on this momentum and end this race quickly. jeff is "outfront" in new hampshire.
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obviously that town hall with desantis and wolf blitzer is slated to begin later tonight. what are you hearing, jeff, so far on the ground as all the campaigns, all the press, everybody descending in full force to new hampshire today? >> donald trump is aggressively sharpening his arguments against nikki haley. nikki haley is calling on trump to debate. she's ignoring desantis. desantis is trying to stay alive in this race, calling on haley to have some type of dialogue with them. so that is the status of this three-person race. ha haley spent the day here calling it a two-person race. the reality is that's not true. new hampshire will inspect these candidates in the final week and decide whether to elevate trump or humble him as they've done other front-runners in history. donald trump arriving in new hampshire tonight. >> this is the biggest win. >> following a landslide victory in iowa.
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eyeing a decisive one two punch in what he hopes will be a rematch with president biden. >> this is the first because the big night is going to be in november when we take back our country and truly we do make our country great again. >> along the way, he made a voluntary detour to federal court in new york to watch jury selection in a defamation case against him. the latest sign of how the courtroom is a critical piece of his campaign. nikki haley sought to turn a narrow third place iowa into a message on electability. >> our campaign is the last best hope of stopping the trump biden nightmare. >> that argument rests at the heart of the week long push of the new hampshire primary, hoping to tap into americans exhausted by their leading options. she amplified that call in a new tv ad. >> the two most disliked politicians in america. trump and biden. >> tonight in new hampshire, haley wore a confident smile as she tried to will the primary into a two-person race.
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>> he is not my concern. i'm going after trump. >> on the heel os f a distant second place showing in iowa, desantis began his day in haley's home state of south carolina, hoping to plant a flag outside of new hampshire hoping to keep his aspirations alive. >> haley said the top two from iowa go on to be available. guess what, start -- >> desantis and haley intensified their bitter duel. yet the former president's 51% iowa win suggests most reasons may not be looking for one. trump's unifying tone in iowa. >> i want to congratulate ron and nikki for having a good time together. we're all having a good time together. and i think they both actually did very well. >> belies the reality in new hampshire. where he and his allies have been tearing into haley.
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>> while iowa is the first stop on the republican nominating calendar once again marked the end of the road for two more candidates including hutchison, a fierce trump critic and ramavr ramaswamy. and in fact, he is on stage with the former president right now offering that endorsement and urging some of his new hampshire sup supporters to back the trump campaign. there is no doubt. time is running out for some of these rivals to make their case. the electorate in new hampshire is totally different than iowa. of course, republicans are expected to participate next week, but as are independents and the undeclared. that's why nikki haley believes she has a new showing here with this audience. >> thank you very much. and here just to talk about this and trump is speaking now. in what they be a lengthy
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speech. it's interesting. he started out slamming nikki haley. trump is actually treating it like it's one as much he can posting on truth social again calling her nikki bird brain haley. the insult he has now started to lob at her. >> not the greatest nickname. >> no. but yet, he is treating this as if it's a two-person. >> for all intents and purposes in the state of new hampshire, it is a two-person race. desantis, smartly, goes to south carolina this morning to point out that how poorly she's going to do in south carolina. look, her home state won't even vote for her. you know, he makes the trip up to new hampshire to do the town hall then he's going to head straight back to south carolina, kind of plant the flag and really dig in there. two-person race in new hampshire and trump is right to go after nikki haley because she is going to be formidable there because you have independents, unaffiliate. folks can go there and vote for
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somebody else other than trump. so it's going to be close in new hampshire and if trump wants to make this end, he's going to have to stop her here. >> did she do the right thing by refusing to debate desantis? that was the debate slated to be on thursday night. >> it is a two-person race in new hampshire. she was over her skis last night using the speech she should have used when she came in second, but in new hampshire, it's a two-person race. desantis, a, he's blowing through a ridiculous amount of money. it's going to be hard to keep up the momentum because that's not for a month. and nikki haley won 63% of moderates last night. new hampshire's where moderates and independents can vote because of the open primary. >> all right. >> i think she's doing exactly what she's supposed to do. she should be modeling this as a person one-on-one with donald trump. no, desantis, who is that guy? that guy was last week. trump is already trying to do it by talking about like, oh,
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didn't they have a good time together sort of at the kids table at thanksgiving. now let's get on with the real dinner for me. i think she's doing exactly what she needs to do. >> she's treating desantis as a flea on the butt of the republican elephant in new hampshire and it's got to be driving him crazy and he needs the media because he's blown through so much of his money. >> she's on the ground there. and then she did an interview this morning on fox news. let me just play the clip that gives the context for everybody watching. here it is. >> are you a racist party? >> no. we're not a racist country, brian. we've never been a racist country. our goal is to make sure that today is better than yesterday. are we perfect? no. but our goal is to always make sure we try and be more perfect every day that we can.
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>> she's so awkward whenever she's talking about race. she just, you know, wants to tiptoe around it and i think it then makes her sound crazy. how can you say that this has never been a racist country when it was founded by taking away the land of native americans and importing slaves from africa? it has never been a racist country? really? emma tills family may want a word with you. it's in a racist party. in the last couple of weeks, we've seen nikki haley who can't bring herself to utter the word slavery as the cause of civil war. we've got ron desantis who in florida is defending the notion there was a positive side to slavery and we've got donald trump who wants to give lincoln advice on how to negotiate on slavery. i don't think they're doing themselves any favors on this. it's not going to hurt her with
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republicans. it will hurt her -- >> a misspeak in -- >> how many times is she going to misspeak on this? >> america has always had racism, but america has never been a racist country. what does that mean? >> that's the problem, erin. nobody knows. she seems like a politician giving that answer. doesn't seem authentic. >> i think she did misspeak. i think she was trying -- we are not a racist country. we have evolved as a country. the problem is it's within the context of that's why we're talking about it. >> when she used her black friends as a justification. >> she is a politician of color who rose up through the governor of south carolina and there's a lot of her own narrative is about transcending identity politics. as is tim scott's. tim scott actually dealt with race much more directly. >> he's also said it's not a racist country. >> as a historian of the civil war, i think it's healthy to
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talk about our history, but stop mangling the facts. >> people look at that and say there's a politician, guys. >> she knows better. that's the fundamental point. she's a politician from south carolina where this is always right underneath the surface. i've done a lot of my work on politics in georgia and this is always under the surface. i grew up in detroit because my great grandfather got chased out of georgia because the lynch mob was coming for him. joined the military, ended up a buffalo soldier, no, because it was -- because the government wouldn't let african americans serve. the point about this is from the constitution, fugitive slave acts, the missouri compromise of 2820, jim crow laws, it's been in the country. what we've been doing is for the last really the last 60 years since the 1950s and '60s, we've been trying to dig ourselves out of this and try to make the country be what our founding fathers professed it to be.
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the question is are we going to be a strong enough country where we can look at our facts honestly, celebrate our successes and go forward and have our kids be prepared for the future or tell our kids fairy tales so they're not prepared. >> this is a woman who last week, trump was trying the birtherism thing on her. guess what they have in common, nikki haley and barack obama. they're both people of color. i don't see him waging that attack -- >> did the same thing to kamala harris, to ted cruz. it's the antiaffirmative action stuff. charlie curb wanting to take on martin luther king now and fix the civil rights agent. so we are seeing this driving the movement that donald trump has been giving air cover to for the last six years. >> so how do these things impact, especially when you look at new hampshire where when the slavery comment made, it was in a new hampshire town hall and it
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did have an impact there. >> it makes her look like a politician. people want to vote for someone who's authentic. whether you like donald trump or not, he's authentic. people appreciate that. people hate politicians. she was a politician right there. just speak the truth. it's not that hard. >> trump has -- >> clearly, it is that hard. >> he is the front-runner but of course he was the last to arrive in new hampshire because he was in the courtroom today with the case in which he was found liable for sexual abuse. so he's now just speaking and as we said, making it a two-person race. here is trump a moment ago. listen to this. >> haley, particular. is counting on the democrats and liberals to infiltrate your republican primary. you know that. that's what's happening. a group of people coming into the not republicans and it's artificially boosting her numbers here although we're still leading her by a lot.
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>> all right. just first of all, factual reality check about how the primaries work. democrats can't vote in the republican primary. independents can. >> that's an infiltration. >> any candidate's going to need to win the presidency is independent voters. that was unsurprisingly -- >> it's those independent voters and unafiltrated democrats that are going to be bothered by nikki haley running away from truth. >> a better argument, what's her path forward after new hampshire? all look more like iowa than new hampshire. >> and last night at the beginning of his speech, he talked about bringing everybody together. very uncharacteristic message of unity. here we are, democrats are being positioned as infiltrators of the gop. >> yes, this is donald trump's brand. he called it friction. he wants to make sure everybody's always amped up. that's the way he moves forward.
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donald trump knows that he got to take nikki haley out, he's got to discredit her. i hope she's ready because he's turning both barrels of his rhetorical gun on her and it is going to be a brutal, brutal series of weeks for her. it only gets harder and we'll see if she's really got the -- >> he's also laying the groundwork to say it's rigged in the event she pulls off a surprise. his favorite line. >> thank you and coming up tonight on cnn, don't miss our town hall live from new hampshire with ron desantis. wolf blitzer will be there at 9:00 eastern. next here "outfront," trump's lawyers telling a new york jury the woman he was found liable of sexually abusing prospered after she made allegations against him. she was a witness in the trial. responds next. plus, elon musk. tonight, he's asccused of violating really one of the most basic rules of capitalism as he holds one of his own companies
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hostages for billions of dollars and roger stone allegedly caught on tape calling for the death of two democrats. >> before the election.
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lawyers just finishing opening statements in the e. jean carroll case. it is the first time in decades they've been in the same room together. a jury of nine will now decide how much in damages trump should pay for defamatory statements he made about carroll's allegations that he sexually assaulted her in a dressing room in 1996. carroll is seeking $10 million in damages after a jury last year found that he abused her and was liable for 5 million. so already found liable in all of this. paula reed is "outfront." he was there today. that's why he's just getting to new hampshire and giving his first appearance on the ground there. obviously haley and desantis already there. do you expect to see him all the time in the cuourtroom?
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>> we expect he'll be back tomorrow and he'll continue to attend as long as it serves him politically. today he didn't stay for opening statements. heard carroll's lawyer talk about how he had unleashed his followers on her. how she lives in fear and should be entitled to significant damages, but his lawyer argued that her career actually prospered after these made these allegations. now we likely won't see him on thursday. his mother-in-law's funeral, no court on friday, but he could testify on monday and that would be something because his roll in this, his ability to testify, quite narrow. this is just about damages. the judge is not going to let him relitigate what happened in the department store or attack carroll. >> which is what he wants to do. >> so the calculus they're going to have to do is okay, is it worth it to turn off the jury or face blowback from the judge to score a few political points and amplify this message of persecution. >> so the jury pool.
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i was so fascinated watching. hearing about this jurors and some of the possible conflicts, somebody who worked for ivanka trump and the white house. i don't know how you find all these people in one jury but they seem to have done that. >> this is wild. it's a random selection of people. 40 to 50 people and among those, nearly everyone heard about the case, but you had one person who had done communications for ivanka trump. someone else who worked for a moving company who serviced the trump buildings. three people who worked for trump or affiliated organizations. another person who spoke at the white house during the trump years and three people who believe the court system is being unfair to trump. now there are ten people who donated to biden and affiliated organizations but that's really important about the jury is it's going to be anonymous because we've seen judges and court officials facing threats. >> people say look at this,
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people see bias in the system, but there's something to celebrate about the fact you have biden donors. multiple trump donors all in a manhattan jury pool. something trump would say doesn't exist and here it is. thank you so much. and now to jessica leads because she accused trump of groping her on a plane decades ago. she testified in a trial and carroll's lawyers have indicated that they may call you, jessica, to testify in this trial as well. so we'll start with where we are now as paula was laying out. donald trump lawyer today told the jury that carroll has not suffered. in fact, that she was prospered since accusing donald trump of sexual assault and she quote wants president trump to pay for the mean tweets. what's your response to hearing that argument? >> i think it's a very creative platform that he has moved to.
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somebody is i think put the bug in his ear. i don't think he's capable of being that creative, but at the beginning, she lost her job. she lost her livelihood. and she was an outcast when he first went out after her. froms and that sort of cult like behavior which is fostered by the internet, has put the fear in people all over the united states like in congress. >> so the case as we, as this case is now, centers on trump's denial of carroll's alslegation and that she was not his type. a jury, he has been found liable for sexual abuse, okay. so this case is actually not about whether he did that or not. it's about damages. but that's what he wants to
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litigate. and he used a similar defense in 2016 after you went public with your allegations. here he is. >> yeah. i'm going to go after. believe me. she would not be my first choice. that, i can tell you. you don't know. that would not be my first choice. >> it's a go to defense. used it with you, with her. there have been other times as well that he has said that about others. what do you think about that? that that's his first defense when a woman accuses him of sexual assault. >> well, for one thing, he fails to recognize the passage of time. and what he saw when the story broke was a 79-year-old woman and that's, he cannot imagine, he cannot imagine that he would make a pass at that because he's
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just gotten women who are younger and younger and younger. so it's a lack of imagination on his part but that is his defense, that we're not his type. i don't think there's a woman out there that isn't his type. that's my opinion. >> it's an interesting point you make and one i guess with more deep psychological things to discuss when it comes to him and his life and perception of mortality. but at least three potential jurors today as paula was reporting, said they believe donald trump is being treated unfairly by the u.s. court system. they were also three and i don't know if there was overlap, but three who said they were donors to the trump campaign. somebody who had worked for the white house. somebody worked for ivanka trump. three said they believe he's being treated unfairly. how do you respond to that? >> i think he's being treated more than fairly. i think the court system has bent over backwards to give him
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time and place and they are trying really hard because they don't want it to go to an appeal court and get thrown out because the judge lost his temper. so i think they are being very glove, handling him with soft gloves. the people who think he's being prosecuted, they're the ones that are most cult like. anything and everything he does, they think is wonderful. and they're just in a cult mentality and it's really unfortunate because this is not a good person. >> so he was in court today. just after he won the iowa caucuses, right? so that was a blowout. new hampshire voters lined up for hours to see him speak. look, it's clear that trump has a grip on the republican party. seems to be well on his way to
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being the nominee. it would require something quite extraordinary for that not to be the case at this point. possibly could be president again. how do you get your arms around that? how do you reconcile that with the person you interacted with and what you know to be the case? >> it really is hard to contemplate. it really is hard to fathom that this is, this would be our future. it's so depressing that so many people think that this man is our future. i think about things like our place in the world. he would have gotten us out of nato and what would have happened in ukraine? there are so many issues that the economy alone. handling of covid. the legislation that went
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through congress. the fear mongering. the being governed by tweets. this is not anything i want to go back to at all and i think it would be a tragedy for our country. it's just really horrifying to think that that is a possibility. >> all right, jessica, i know you may end up back in that courtroom if they do call you again as you have had to appear as a witness before. i appreciate your time and taking the moments to share your thoughts with me. and next, putin's sobering admission. he wants all of ukraine. and we have a special report on the one american infantry fighting vehicle that right now, is still key to ukrainians in the deadly fight. and elon musk giving his company, tesesla, an ultltimatu. wait untntil y you hear r exactt he's doing.
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tonight, the state hood of ukraine will soon be in question. the state hood in question are the chilling words of putin. he is now predicting that ukraine will soon be conquered by russia following what he calls a quote failed counteroffensive. just to be clear here, puthin i saying the quiet part out loud. he is not talking about taking a region or two of ukraine as those constantly claim all that putin wants and what he will happily settle for because he was never talking about that. putin wants what he wanted from the beginning. total domination of ukraine. ukraine being part of russia and ukraine not being a country and that's what he said today. it comes as putin met with the
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foreign minister of north korea. fred is "outfront" with the report on how ukraine is fooigting back with american armored vehicles which they say they desperately need more of. >> as the russian army assaults eastern ukraine, u.s. provided bradley infantry fighting vehi vehicles are key to keeping the ukrainians in the fight. we're ready, the crews say. and they unleash their powerful, 25 millimeter gun on russian troops in nearby tree lines helping the ukrainian infantry blunt an assault. the call sign is barbie and he tells me the bradleys are making all the difference. i doubt that we'd be talking with you doing this interview if we didn't have the bradleys, he says. most likely the northern flank would have been already lost without the bradleys. they have no time to lose. the next task waiting as the russians try to press forward. the ukrainians say the bradley
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is one of the most protective tools because of its armor and strong canon, it can easily defeat russian vehicles. the bradleys also own the dark. able to find and target russian troops with their thermal scopes. you can see the rounds impact after they fire a sal voe at russian forces. i asked barbie if the russians fear the bradley. the russians are very afraid of the bradley, he says. we were getting radio intercepts where they were shouting it was coming and they couldn't do anything against it. they've come a long way sips this past summer when bradleys and other vehicles were bogged down, unable to unleash their fire power. now, it often looks like this. ukraine's 47th me canized
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brigade. they also provided several videos purporting to show a bradley beating russia's most capable main battle tank, the t-90, in a dual. the bradley fires salvos. after taking many hits, the t-90 seems to be out of control. the vehicle then hits a tree before the ukrainians send a drone to finish it off. the russian crew manages to bail. but the ukrainians fear this could end soon if u.s. congress doesn't okay additional funding for military aid and both u.s. and crukrainian officials have said ukraine is also forced to ration some equipment. >> the assistance we provided has now ground to a halt. the attacks the russians are conducting are only increasing. >> barbie and his crew say so far, they have no shortages of ammo or spare parts for the bradleys. a key weapon as they try to hold the line geagainst a massive
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russian invasion force. another reason they say the bradley is so important for them is that it also lifts the morale of front line troops. they say in many cases when troops are under a lot of pressure or under fire from the russians, when a bradley shows up, they understand with its armor, it's going to protect them and get them out. one of the things putin has said today is that he's going to keep pressing his offensive against the ukrainians, even calling ukraine's state hood into question. >> thank you very much from eastern ukraine. "outfront" now, adam smith of washington. the top democrat on the armed services committee. this issue of state hood. putin predicting ukraine's stat hood would soon be in question as he is mocking the counteroffensive they have put on. do you have any doubt as to what he's saying when he says their state hood is at risk? >> no, not at all.
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thank you. you summed it up perfectly at the top of this segment. that's exactly what putin has been after from the beginning. and so many people have sort of helped him do that by claiming that oh, putin would have made peace if we had just said ukraine won't join nato and other things that aren't true. you perfectly summed up what putin's objective is and right now, the group that's helping putin in that objective more than any is the republican party in the house and the senate by refusing to pass the supplemental aid package that the president has proposed that would help ukraine in this fight. >> do you have any sense there's any possibility of a breakthrough on that? >> the president's called a meeting at the white house yesterday. the pressure is growing. look, the frustration here is i know there are republicans who don't support ukraine. j.d. vance. matt gaetz. i disagree with those arguments. but that's what they believe. the real problem now is all of the republicans here who claim
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to support ukraine. who claim that they don't you know, they don't want to support putin. they don't want to see putin succeed. they're going to support an aid package and don't do it. and now they've tied it to a complicated fight over the border. i would ask the republicans do what the speaker said they would do. which is not abandon ukraine. speaker johnson made that clear when he got the job. i hope he lives up to that commitment. >> and you just mentioned the border, which of course in the gop eyes should be tied to this. funding as well as other issues. i spoke the other day with the former dni for president obama, james clapper. i asked him whether he was worried about the southern border. in particular for whether you've got a quarter million people in december crossing over illegally. whether that's really a risk of people who wish to do america harm. whether it be from russia or from yemen or wherever it might be. here's how he responded.
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>> i've gotten very concerned about it. the nature, the composition of the border crossers has changed a good bit since my day. now it's much manufacture international. there are chinese, russians, and others. this is a serious national security concern. >> congressman, do you agree with him? >> absolutely. i completely agree. the border is a threat for that reason. also because so many of our cities and communities are being overwhelmed by migrants that we cannot support. look, where he need to reform border policy. ironically part of the block now is you have house republicans saying that they don't support the negotiation that the senate republicans are engaged in to get a border policy deal because they don't want to lose the political issue against president biden in this election year. i mean, yes. we need border reform. we need republicans to come to the table in an honest way to get us there.
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>> all right, congressman smith, i appreciate your time. thank you so much for being with me tonight. next, elon musk holding tesla hostage, demanding a massive payday from tesla, which of course is publicly traded. owned by shareholders. he's already the richest man on the planet. now he wants more to do something that should just be a basic requirement of running that company. and the suspected gilgo beach killller b back k in cour charged d with killingng a fouo wowoman. how ininvestigatorors kconnnnec ththese dots..
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tonight, ultimatum. elon musk is demanding an $85 billion payday from tesla, which is a publicly traded company owned by millions of shareholders. he says he wants the money if tesla wants to develop new ai technology. elon posted on x which he owns and says i am uncomfortable to grow tesla without having 25% voting control. unless that's the case, i would prefer to build products outside of tesla. now, of course, you know, hey, everybody would like to control the company that they run, but he doesn't. and denying a publicly traded company investment in something so basic seems to be a violation of a basic rule of capitalism. his job and responsibility to shareholders in a capitalist system is to invest in things to make a company competitive.
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harry, he's demanding this payday because he wants the money so the can control more o the company. to do investments which would be required now in that industry, but he's already a really rich guy to state the obvious. >> he's already a really rich guy. a guy who's worth $230 billion according to some estimates and of course, he right now controls 13% of the shares of tesla so he needs another 12% to get up to 25%, which is what he wants. if he gets that, he gets another $85 billion. that is if it happened today. he used to own more shares of tesla but he's decided to sell those so that he could buy twitter and then turn it into x. that's right. so he did at one point control the share in tesla that he says he wants to make investments. when you look at musk, he has incredible success. no way to deny that. but tesla is the core of that.
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>> absolutely. if you go back five years ago, elon musk was worth perhaps $20 billion which most of us would take, but it's not anywhere near the amount of money he has today. and the reason for that is because tesla stock has done so incredibly well. so if you look at the growth in elon musk's waealth over the lat five years, it pretty much mirrors the growth in tesla stock. the fact is the reason musk is worth so much is because of tesla and now of course he's basically trying to hold them hostage today. >> a lot of this could be bluster. however, i made a point when i talked about capitalism and fiduciary responsibility to do basic investments to grow a company competitively. some people may say is ai that, so basic? i just wanted to share with everything. tim cook who explained this about ai and how fundamental it is as an investment recently.
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>> we view ai machine learning as fundamental technologies and they're integral to virtually every product we show. >> and that puts the context around what withholding that investment could mean for tesla. >> absolutely right. if you look at investment in the private sper prenterprise over e last ten year, we have seen it blossom. 45 billion in 2019. now a forecast of 132 billion. that's you know, 20 fold essentially. this is a huge industry and elon musk realizes that and that's why he's doing what he's doing. >> thank you very much. next, a single piece of hair. new evidence that investigators say links the alleged gilgo beach serial killer to another woman's murder. he's in court today facing a fourth murder charge. and roger stone caught on tape talking about wanting to kill house democrats.
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new tonight, the suspected long island serial killer accused of killing multiple women appearing in court today, see him there. rex heuermann was brought in before the judge six months after his arrest to face a charge now of killing a fourth woman. prosecutors say they connected the new york architect to this latest victim using a single piece of hair. brynn gingras is "outfront." >> i was only 7 years old when my mother was murdered. >> reporter: nicolette
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brainard-barnes speaking publicly for the first time after facing in court the man accused of killing her mother, maureen. >> i remember she read to me every night, and now i can no longer remember the sound of her voice. i wish she was here today, but she was taken from us. >> reporter: rex heuermann charged with killing maureen branared-barnes, 25-year-old woman who vanished in 2007 and is believed to be the gilgo beach killer's first victim. heuermann is now accused in the murders of all four women, who were found within a quarter mile of each other along the same stretch of parkway on long island and infamously became known as the gilgo four. >> this indictment marks a change in the investigation. >> reporter: a hair found on a belt used to bind barnes matches the dna profile of heuermann's now estranged wife. the discovery made using advanced nuclear dna analysis. >> we believe these dna results are significant. nuclear dna as illustrated is much more discriminate. >> reporter: in the 23-page
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updated indictment, prosecutors lay out more evidence they say ties the 60-year-old architect to the killings of the four women authorities say were sex workers. hairs found on megan waterman's body and the burlap binds match rex heuermann and his wife's dna profile. and a hair found matches his daughter victoria, evidence heuermann's attorney is already taking issue with. >> all along we have been told that the evidence is unsuitable for nuclear dna testing. this morning was the first time, and this is 13 plus years, that miraculously, nuclear dna testing and results have come forward. >> reporter: they say burner phones and computer activity also showed communications with some of the victims. a credit card statement found in a storage locker and cell phone records further confirm heuermann's family was out of town when the murders took place, which allowed, quote, unfettered time to execute his
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plans for each victim, the indictment reads. >> the grand jury investigation of the so-called gilgo four is over. >> reporter: a step forward for family members continuing to seek justice. >> these victims had families. they were human beings with aspirations and hope for a better future for themselves. >> and that was maureen branared-barnes' younger sister. you may remember she actually received a call from her sister's cell phone after she disappeared, and on the other line was the killer. so a lot of trauma there. they certainly feel like they are seeing justice. rex heuermann will be back in court next month, and the d.a. says he is hoping to use the new technology, possibly tie heuermann to some other murders. we'll see if that develops. >> brynn, thank you very much. live outside that courtroom. next, former trump associate roger stone caught on tape talking about killing democratic members of congress by name. policece tonight i investigatit.
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tonight, the u.s. and capitol police and the fbi are investigating comments allegedly made by trump ally roger stone on tape threatening to assassinate house democrats. >> it's time to do it. has to before the election. we need to get the message. >> referring to democratic congressman eric swalwel