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the stand. when it comes to the 2024 raise, federal president trump is going after nikki haley by evoking her birth name, how it evokes racist dog whistles he's used against other opponents in the past . and charles heading to the hospital for treatment, the princess of wales, kate middleton could be the hospital for weeks after undergoing surgery. the palace releasing very few retails, many developing stories, coming right here on cnn news. >> donald trump has been in federal court, hours of testimony from e. jean carroll and a second civil defamation case, he was already found liable, the attorneys are not cross-examining. >> she has already notified that trump defamatory remarks
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were -- ruined her reputation and made her fear for her life, and during parts of her testimony, donald trump reacted physically and verbally, prompted the judge to warn him multiple times, and the judge even threatened to kick him out of the court. outside the courthouse, cara, trump acting out the courtroom and going at the judge on social media? >> reporter: yes, it has been a tense day inside the courtroom, e. jean carroll has been on the stand for hours telling her story, saying donald trump's actions, design -- denying the rape allegations, saying she made the story for money helped to shatter her life, we saw the first physical reaction by the president, sitting just two tables away from her looking straight ahead and we saw him shake his head side to side as if to say no, and throughout her testimony as she is
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describing the threats, sent -- saying people said she should die, and trump is talking to the attorney, a lawyer for e. jean carroll brought up the communication, where they were sitting, they could hear words like witchhunt and it really is a con job and concerned the jury could hear it. the judge had given trump a warning and after a second break her lawyers brought it up again, this is when the judge said to donald trump, facing each other, he looked at him and said trump has a right to be here but that right can be forfeited if it -- if he is disruptive, and so i hope i don't have to exclude you, the judge said i understand your your for me to do that, and remove you from the trial, trump said i would love it, the judge said i know you would. and trump returned, he has been in there listening to her continue her testimony, talking
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about some of the things that happened to her after the verdict last year, when the other jury found that trump had defamed her, she would still receive a flurry from strangers threatening her sayings -- saying they wish he would die, the harm is continuing even up to the trial, her attorney showed a post on social media where trump was referencing e. jean carroll saying she was a liar and trump today between the lunch break, after he had the exchange with the judge posted on the social media platform about the judge saying he was biased and hostile, trump's attorney said they thought the judge should recuse himself, he quickly denied the motion and trump's lawyers are beginning to cross-examine carroll, that is not underway for a while, asking questions about her background and how she became a writer in the states, but it will become more pressing, they are going to say
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that she benefited once she went public with her allegations and saw her career in room, something carroll has said is quite the opposite of what and that will continue until the end of court today. >> briefly some tense moments in the cross examinations with drums attorneys and the judge, he said this is my courtroom and that is the end of the story, thank you for the update. let's get some analysis with normalizing, -- with norm eisen. it seems like trump is testing the very structure of the justice system. to see how far you go. >> unlike his successes in the political world, when he does the testing, there are consequences in court. the judge has made it very clear, if donald trump keeps up with the statement that carroll 's lawyers said it was a con
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job in a witchhunt, this is a very experienced federal judge, a very tough judge, and donald trump had better not cross those lines >> clearly he wants everybody talking about this. he knows what he is doing in that regard. is it a pr campaign? hoping that someone on the jury might get wind of this, the jury was not there in the room as it happened, what are the possibilities of the outcomes he is? >> the legal advantage is really secondary, we know the jury pool, the larger group of potential jurors who came in, there were those who had supported mr. trump and those who did not believe that he lost the 2020 election, as far as we know, individuals that might have a bias were screened out. i don't think it's the jury, he
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has figured out that he can use his legal problems for advantage on the political trail to perpetuate this narrative, which is very effective in the primaries at least, that he is a victim, and that seems to be the objective here. the problem is, you don't get to the white house just by succeeding in the primaries, you have to get into the general election, you have to persuade independence, and there's a lot of evidence that this is a two-edged sword and will work against him further down the line>> the judge has essentially said that what he prior court found that trump was liable for defamation, the stand is not arguing against that, the jury is just trying to figure out damages right, how could this kind of interruption impact or taint their decision-making? >> first of all, when he's making comments that it is a
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witchhunt or a con job, if the jury hears it, it reopens the question that the judge has said is not going to be re- litigated. there is nothing special about that when it comes to donald trump, it's illegal principle, collateral estoppel, he litigated that in front of another jury, they rejected it, they said donald trump had libeled her and there had been a sexual assault, that is done, that is the prejudice when he makes the comments in front of a jury, conversely it is evidence if he keeps acting out , that shows his intent and malice and anger, and these exchanges are very important. >> they can be found in contempt of court. >> the judge would have to give
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them another warning, if he had a true eruption and one will beyond with the judge has already made clear, he could be but i think you're going to see this judge and other judges, they like to build that record and give them enough rope, anything they do is revealed -- reviewed on appeal, trump's lawyers are already saying he is biased and working for his recusal. and he could do anything.>> thank you so much for joining us, normalizing. from the courtroom to the campaign trail, nikki haley, pulling the gap new hampshire and now he is putting his rhetorical sites on her, using one of his tried-and-true methods, racist attack, he called her by her full name,
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spelling it wrong by the way, it is not inherently racist, but there is no other reason for trump to highlight her south asian if the city than to hope voters will see it as different and some of them might see it as inferior and that is the point. just as trump emphasizes former president barack obama's middle name, hussein, which is commonly used in the muslim world, although he is not muslim, trump also used it, he blamed obama and president biden for the attack. >> this problem was caused, in my opinion, by his boss, barack obama, barack hussein obama member rush limbaugh used to sit like that.>> one of the hallmarks in his presidency and his reign over the republican
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party has been taking racism out of the mainstream to social media, campaign rallies and even the presidential debate stage in 2020. >> you would have lost everything. pocahontas. >> trump was referring to the massachusetts senator elizabeth warren, claiming to have native american ancestry, he took a test, an effort to claim a connection and ended up apologizing, but that doesn't change calling her anyone pocahontas, a racial slur, trump has been consistent, become a dumping ground he said mexico is sending rapists over the border when he launched his 2016 the presidential campaign, and because trump university,
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saying the judge was mexican and the impartial, and just weeks ago he said immigrants are poisoning the blood of america, this racially charged behavior goes back decades, to the 1980s, with the full page ad calling for the reinstatement for the death penalty for the central part five, convicted in a brutal gang rape and later exonerated, in 2014 new york paid them a $41 million settlement. but in a 2016 statement to cnn, trump refused to acknowledge they were innocent, they admitted they were guilty he said, the police say they were guilty he said, the fact that it was settled with so much evidence against them, and the woman so badly injured will never be the same he said, in 2019 it was much the same. >> you have people on both sides of that, they admitted their guilt. >> or the early 1970s, when the
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doj of the nixon administration found in the sense of pattern of the trump family real estate business discriminating against black would be tenants, the business, held by trump, settled the case. back to the present day, the latest attack, using nikki haley's name, follows his recent efforts to popularize a can see theory that she might not be eligible to be president because her parents were not citizens when she was born, trump is using the insidious rubric we have seen before, one that he honed as the birther in chief, questioning whether former president barack obama was born in kenya instead of hawaii. in august 2012 he tweeted a source told him obama's birth certificate was a fraud and this went on years, trump finally getting a little squishy on the question of whether he was born in america but not really backing down. >> who knows, who cares right now, we are talking about
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something else, i have my own theory of obama, i will write a book. >> until september 2016 when trump appeared to be lagging hilary clinton in the general election, he finally reversed himself. >> president barack obama was born in the united states. period. >> here is the fact check on the latest trump birther conspiracy theory, nikki haley is a natural born citizen, she is eligible to be president, says the constitution. but that is not really what this boils down to. it boils down to this. even as she talks publicly about her heritage, trump is trying to weapon isaac, reminding voters that her family has not been in the u.s. all that long compared to hers, that her family is not like there is and she is not like them, and is that really who
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the spending showdown on capitol hill is taking a high- stakes detour to the white house, lawmakers from both parties are there, scheduled to meet with president biden to try to stop the government from partially shutting down in three days, sources say the president stressed the urgent need to pass a to ukraine in the fight against the russian invasion. a short time ago, the republican senator john cornyn urged house republicans to take a deal, he said you either you know, get the votes and get half a loaf or you get nothing at all, joining me now is ralph norman of south carolina, thank
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you so much for joining us, using that metaphor from senator cornyn, are you willing to get half a loaf with a compromise bill that isn't house resolution 2 or are you sticking by your guns? >> all i can speak for is what i'm going to do. this is not that complicated. >> johnson had said early on, the border invasion is the issue simply you cut the money off and shut the border down, and forced the biden administration to do that and anything short of that i will be against. and to the border, it is awful what is going on, it's against humanity, it's against america, very simple for me, i don't take what john cornyn said, i would not take his advice on that, the house controls the
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purse strings and we have to start acting like that. >> when you say shut the border down, what does that entail exactly. if you shut down the traffic between united states and one of the largest trading partners, it could be disastrous for the economy. >> what you do is, we have people coming in from over 150 or hundred and 60 different countries, we don't know who's coming in america, what about the terrorist we know of that are getting across the border. you complete the wall and get the military if you have to, the trafficking carfentanil, we cannot sustain this, we had over 350,000 illegals coming across the border, over 8 million that we know of, that is insane, you don't do that. >> i believe those are encounters, they are not actual numbers of people crossing the border. >> and it's a non-starter, you
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won't get it through the starter in, is there any way you would allow the white house to strike a deal that does have some restrictions that you're looking for, cutting down on asylum claims and expedited deportation. and if you don't get everything you want, is it fair? >> the devil is in the details, i have not seen anything yet, i've seen words being spoken, i haven't seen anything yet, barren mind, you have over 8 million, you say encounters, they don't know, it is a c. >> it's from customs and border protection, encounter, somebody trying to cross the border, it doesn't mean that 8 million people are getting in, they can have multiple encounters with the same person, the number is a rough estimate, i don't want to talk with the numbers right
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now but i'm curious to get your perspective on what it is you ultimately want, a symbolic bill that is not going anywhere in the senate or do you want legislation that will do some of the things that you want, like cut down on asylum claims and expedited deportation but it doesn't go perhaps as far as you wanted to go? >> anything that i've heard about, the devil is in the details, basically just a watered-down version of what the president has been doing. as far as the spending, nondiscretionary, 886 from the military, i want to fund the military, i don't want to fund one that is letting the invasion happened on the border, can't do it any longer, on the public dole of the taxpayers, it's not fair to america, and not fair to the taxpayers at all. >> i want to ask you about spending, criticized by members
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of the conference for the deal he struck with the majority leader chuck schumer, he argues the deal is an improvement over previous arrangements between republicans in the house and senate democrats, it is not that much different from the deal that was brokered by the former speaker kevin mccarthy that got him kicked out of that position, do you see this as an improvement?>> you are accepting the pelosi and schumer level spending, 1.6 7 trillion, that's unacceptable, and i think the >> mentioned things that are less, we have a treasure of things we can cut, like the funding of walls in other countries, it's ridiculous that we are spending money that we don't have, it's not improvement, kevin mccarthy is no longer the speaker. >> lastly i do want to get this
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question and before we go congressman, supporting nikki haley for president in 2024, i want to get your reflections on former president trump deliberately misusing her birth name and social media post about her, doesn't give a clear reason why he's done that, and question whether he she could be president. they were born in the united states, he's done that with tread -- ted cruz and barack obama, and racist, what you think they consistently go there, as well? bigger president trump is its own that is his own man and nikki haley is her own person. on the debate stage, it makes her feisty her and nikki haley,
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let him both responded, a free country, we are in a republic right now and hopefully we can get them both on the stage and see how it works.>> the fact that you would attempt to utilize someone's birth name as a form of criticism, a pejorative weeks for itself, congressman ralph northam. go ahead circuit >> >> i misread the teleprompter. >> i'm not going to focus on donald trump, he is his own man and nikki haley is his own person, let's get them on stage and let them debate it would be a fun debate, >> will see if donald trump decides to debate her. wissman ralph norman, can sure
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today the biden administration redesignated the houthis in yemen is a global terrorist entity, a move that they hope will deter them from launching more tax in the red sea, it comes after the u.s. led several nations instructing targets in yemen, at the pentagon, natosha, tell us what this designation means? >> it basically triggers new economic sanctions as well as asset eases, according to the secretary of state he said in a statement this designation seeks to promote accountability for the groups terroristic activities, he said at the who sees -- houthis ceases that they will reevaluate the destination, this is another tool in the toolbox that they decided to reinstate the delisting, as a direct result of attacking commercial shipping in the red sea with missiles and drones over the last two months. importantly this is not as strong as a terrorist designation as the
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administration could have imposed on them, that would be a foreign terrorist designation, the ministrations stopped short of that, under that designation, penalizing anyone with material support, the administration, potentially negatively negatively affecting that, they do control a significant portion of territory in yemen, they said the designation, being global terrorist, taking effect in the next 30 days throughout this month, and different stakeholders and international companies to make sure they understand the limitations on what they can and can't provide in this context. basically it comes as the houthis have not lit up their attacks, striking as recently as today even though the u.s. military has launched several strikes as recently as yesterday on the weaponry that the fees have been using to watch the
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attacks, squeezing them into stopping but however they showed no signs of letting up at this point. >> they sure do not, natosha bertran, thank you. >> in the meantime, some major airport drama for arnold schwarzenegger, the former governor was detained in munich by customs officials for over two hours apparently over an undisclosed luxury watch. >> is sourced close to the actor calling the scene a shakedown and telling cnn the watch was to be auctioned for charity. customs officials even other expedition, he did not declare an object from any non-eu country, this process applies to everyone, he will face criminal tax proceedings in germany over the incident. >> i love how they love -- they let him snap a pick inside the office. >> may be a pr move, what kind of watch was it.
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>> i don't know, we will figure it out. the fallout continues for boeing, as investigators look at why part of a alaska airlines plane blew up bit like, the focus on the max nine door plug and whether bolts were installed on that part of the aircraft. >> lawmakers held a closed-door meeting with the head of the national transportation safety board and the faa, are watch correspondent, just kidding, and it is so essential with these planes. >> very essential >> on grounding the 737 max nine before we know what led to the incident, from the capitol hill of the head of the ntsb and faa wrapped up their first briefing in congress on alaska flight 1282, after they sure that and they're still examining the door plug and finally bluff
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alaska 12 in the vesga and he says the door was in malaysia, i went through a spirit factory in kansas before going to the boeing production line in washington day. investigators want to know where in the process the problems first occurred, senator ted cruz sits on the senate commerce committee, which got today's briefing. >> we don't know, but it's obvious that somebody screwed up. so this investigation needs to find out where the mistake was, what caused the accident and critically what needs to be done to make sure it doesn't happen again, and it doesn't happen again with tragic consequences.>> remember the boeing 737 max nine remains grounded in the u.s., 171 planes flown by alaska airlines and united airlines.
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the faa says preliminary inspections of 40 of the planes just wrapped up, and it isbeg l the faa in that will treat the final checks that must be done on each max nine before they can fly again. the ceo released a video message and said he has been able to see some of the early inspections firsthand, but until the faa releases final details the airline will be forced to keep canceling flights, the cancellations total as many as 150 flight per day. >> a few moments ago, talking about the potential government shutdown this week, the ntsb chair warned lawmakers that could have the back. >> she sent letters to lawmakers saying the government needs to remain open, if the government shuts down they could impact some critical investigations. we know there is a broader impact of a government shutdown on aviation and that could
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affect air traffic controllers and the backup of controllers getting through training, it's a problem for them and airline in general. >> what watch was he trying to get through. >> they were bright line all the time, get back on my lunch game. >> this is why you are the aviation course on and. [ laughter ]>> i should be a watch guy. >> we misunderstood. we apologize. [ laughter ] >> thank you so much.>> taking on a major case that could limit the power of the federal government and one that some court watchers think could be impacted in certain justice. what happened to his mom, details after the break.
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the fate of federal agencies may be in the hand of supreme court justice neil gorsuch, he has family history, his mom, a former chief of epa, railed against water and air quality regulations in the 1980s, that ardent defiance landed her in contempt of congress, leading to a resignation month later, he built his career on a similar regulatory and antiregulatory three, the environment, student debt forgiveness and covid-19. >> the nation's highest court will hear a pair of cases
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testing the scope of regulatory power, at the center is a 1984 supreme court decision that al gore such has previously said should be reversed. joining is now with the details, this is pretty interesting, what can you tell us about the cases in the court. >> the 1984 case actually arose from policy that and gore such was implementing, -- and ann gorsuch, who wrote a book said are you tough enough, she talked about how her son was upset about what he what had happened to her, 15 at the time, here we are with a major test decision that became a landmark through epa policy and let's tell you about the 1984 case, chevron with the national
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resources defense council, what it says is, if there is a ambiguous statute being enforced by regulator, judges who would hear any kind of lawsuit should defer to with the agency says it means, as long as the agency's interpretation is reasonable. it comes about because congress will often write sweeping statutes, and leave the details of policy to the agency, this 1984 ruling has been one of the most if not the most cited cases in the federal courts, and the supreme court, today it is being treated and tested because big businesses supporting the fisheries, challenging a marine fishery policy have come before the justices got urging the court to overturn chevron and this court is really prime for it, but just new corsets, but other appointees, it has been an agenda item for other
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conservatives on the court. >> the fact there are fishing industry considerations at play with this decision, i imagine it will impact a lot more industries instead of that. >> environmental protection, workplace safety, and how many areas of law the federal government touches, two things from neil gorsuch to you a with, at the center of the case, he had been pushing the supreme court that would take a case that would test the chevron deference as it is known. rather than say what the law is, we tell those who come before us to go ask a bureaucrat, place a finger on the scales of justice, in favor the litigants, and back-and-forth.
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very tense three hours. and chevron is exploited, in the favor the federal government, i can feel the momentum on the part of conservatives, including neal gore such to try to really rollback this policy, and a host of areas. including environmental protection and work-based safety and consumer rights. >> a figure federal regulator. >> you're very cognizant of what's happening when you're 15, he wasn't five, he was 15. >> writing in the memoir, and when she was forced out, and raise me not to be a quitter and you quit. >> and she is on his mind.
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>> actually i know we have to wrap up, one of the lawyers representing the fisheries actually raised her just briefly. >> a fascinating story.>> to members of the british royal family are dealing with health scares requiring time in the hospital, live to london, latest on king charles and catherine, the princess of wales.
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that the princess is in the hospital after undergoing what has been described as a successful abdominal surgery. >> king charles is preparing for his own hospital stay for a medical procedure that is set for next week. let's go to our royal correspondent, max foster, in london with more on this. >> reporter: two announcements going on in one day. the princess, in hospital. it was a planned surgery. it went as planned but she does have to stay in hospital for up to two weeks to be monitored and then two to three months at home, for recuperation. there are concerns, to the extent that she needs such a long period of time. we are not giving any details, apart to saying that it was not related to any concerns about cancer. prince william will stay at home. both of them have been taken out of public duties.
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so it does have an impact. at the same time, we hear from buckingham palace, that the king has an enlarged prostate and he will have to go in for some sort of procedure next week and that will take him out of engagements as well. it was announced at the same time, i'm told, because king charles had a big meeting in scotland. he did not want to cancel he wanted people to know and he wanted to raise awareness about checking your prostate, for men, as well. i do not expect any more updates until the princess leaves hospital, unless anything more serious happens. there is no indication of that so far. >> that is a long time, max, to be recovering. >> reporter: it really is. she is fit, healthy, and very sporty. she should be in a position to recover quite well. but maybe it is an abundance of caution.
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