planning to retire, but he's keeping his ewe teen. he rolled up to mcdonald's for breakfast. she's gotten to know kelce in the drive and taken pictures with him. this time around, he signed her jersey, to danielle, go birds. just awesome there. jason kelce, man of the people. one of the best to ever do it. he will be missed if he's going to retire. >> people from philly sometimes get a bad rap. there's all kinds of incidents. but this man is the best that philly has. it's geting to see him with danielle, it's great. what do we think he does if he does leave the nfl? >> he has his popular podcast with his brother travis. they will probably keep doing this. maybe tv is in his future. it seems like no matter what he does, he's great and so lovable. >> indeed. ann day scholl's, thank you for that. and thank you for joining us.

i am kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. "cnn this morning" starts right now. five days to go before new hampshire. donald trump is test driving nikki haley's electability argument. why trump says he is the only one who can beat joe biden in november. >> iran backed militants and two making countries trade strikes as fears grow of a wider war. what the house speaker told cnn hours after a critical meeting at the white house. "cnn this morning" starts right now. good morning, everyone. so glad you're with us. i'm poppy harley with phil mattingly in new york. donald trump is focusing his attacks on nikki haley as he seeks to deliver a knockout blow

in the new hampshire primary. trump is co-opting haley's electability message. >> if she wins, biden wins. a vote for nikki haley this tuesday is a vote for joe biden and a democrat congress this november. that's what will happen. >> and the clock, of course, is ticking. anxious republicans who are still opposed to trump urging haley to take him on more aggressively. last night haley took a swipe at trump's age. >> the majority of americans have said they don't want their options to be two 80-year-olds for president. we've got to move past that. >> the granite state quickly shifting into a two-candidate battle. ron desantis pulling out staff and resources sending them to south carolina instead for next month's primary. his campaign appears to be scrambling to survive. his super pac began layoffs after iowa and trump is openly predicting desantis won't be

around much longer. >> what the hell happened to ron? does anybody know what happened? i think i happened to ron. i think he's going to be gone. i think all of that. i think you can save him for a week or so. i think he will be gone. >> live in manchester, new hampshire, omar, haley is really the only one campaigning there today, right? >> reporter: yeah, that's what we're looking for today. haley has an event later this morning. the desantis campaign, despite not being here, says or claims they're in it for the long haul and hoping to continue focusing winning states down the road. bottom line, they are not going to be here between now and election day. it's something nikki haley is hoping to take advantage of. former president trump is in full campaign mode represented by the two places we've seen him most. donald trump juggling the courtroom and the campaign.

>> i'm thrilled to be back in the great state of new hampshire. >> reporter: the former president rallied voters in new hampshire last night after he willingly spent most of the day in a new york courtroom, hearing e. jean carroll testify against him in her civil defamation trial. >> that's a nasty man. he's a nasty judge. he's a trump-hating guy. >> reporter: trump clashed with judge louis kaplan who threatened to throw him out of the trial for speaking within earshot of the jury. i understand you're probably very eager for me to do that, he said to trump. trump responded, i would love it. >> this is a person i had no idea who she was nor could i care less. it's a rigged deal. it's a made-up, fabricated story. >> reporter: carroll is seeking more than $10 million in damages after a judge found trump liable for his 2019 defamatory statements about sexual allegations. >> chaos follows him and we

can't have a country in disarray and a world on fire and go through four more years of chaos. we won't survive it. >> reporter: in new hampshire nikki haley is focusing her campaign squarely on donald trump hitting back after a number of policy and personal attacks by trump, including using her birth name, nimarate, in a post widely seen as a racist dog whistle. >> i know trump threw a temper tantrum against me. >> nikki haley is counting on democrats. the radical left democrats are supporting nikki haley because they know she's much easier to beat than trump. >> reporter: with no clear path in new hampshire and two debates now canceled, governor ron desantis appears to be shifting his focus to south carolina, his super pac beginning layoffs and setting the stage for a likely final stand in haley's home state. >> everyone that goes out and

votes for me will help me get delegates, and that's what we want to do. >> reporter: we were at a town hall of desantis' yesterday where he was still asking for folks in new hampshire for their vote. he did acknowledge he probably will be back in the state on sunday, but we will see. in the meantime, nikki haley, essentially, got her two-person race confirmation, at least here in new hampshire. the question is, can she capitalize on it? if she does, it would pose the most serious challenge we have seen yet to the former president. >> omar, thanks. appreciate it. joining us is lee carter, former tim scott senior adviser jim gordon, and analyst leah wright. i want to start with you, leah. the whole push now is can you get the independents, get new hampshire's very different electorate to iowa, to give you a shot, to keep this race going beyond next tuesday? haley made the point, basically,

if you're not in it now, don't complain. listen. >> but the only way we're going to win is if we elect a new conservative generational leader and put the negativity and the baggage behind and focus on the solutions of the future. don't complain about what happens in a general election if you don't play in this primary on tuesday. >> i've heard some say she has to go harder, light everything on firebasecally. that message, is that effective for this electorate? >> it's effective but this is also the moment for her to take risks and for her to put it all in the basket, because this is not the time to play it safe. it's not the time to say, you know what, i'm going to play nice with the former president of the united states because if the former president of the united states wins this, which it looks like it will, it's over. it's over for her campaign. it's not likely that she will

win the other -- any of the other primary contests, and it also means -- it puts forward a narrative about her campaign and her coming in second. she already came in third in the iowa caucuses. i think what she has to do is really hit home two different things. one, this idea of the future of the republican party. what do we want the republican party to look like? what do we want it to stand for? then, also, the policy aspect of the party which, it turns out, republican voters do care about, voters in new hampshire really do care about. she started to do some of that. we saw her critique trump on things like social security, on things like the gas credit, on his age, on biden's age. but, for right now, while she's painted a vision i think is about stability in the midst of chaos, trump's chaos, it's not enough. she has to do so much more including taking these very large risks and taking it directly to trump if she wants to make a splash and continue on in this contest.

>> matt, you've helped run a presidential campaign, tim scott, will nikki haley do that? the knock on her has been, what does she really think? she's trying to have it all ways to all people. to leah's point, the incredibly clear? >> trump is still the most popular -- >> so that's a no. >> trump is the most popular figure in our party. if you go full anti, as if you're running from him on the left -- >> isn't that how you get the undeclareds? >> a lot -- if she happens to do well, wins or comes in very close, south carolina looks more like iowa in terms of demographics and beyond. you can't go full scorched earth. she can win the way she's going now. it's a tossup. you still have a long way to go. >> i think it's really a bad strategy to be reactive. if all you're doing is lighting

trump on fire, that means that's all you're trying to do. and right now when you talk to voters, voters say -- 82% of iowans who voted for trump say he cares for people like me. people say trump is a fighter for people like me. when they talk about nikki haley, what do they say? she's able to beat donald trump, she's the next generation leadership. it's about her not us. what nikki haley needs to be doing what is it going to look like for me if nikki haley is president? no one can answer that except she's younger and has a better chance in the polls. that's not personal, that's not visceral. and she's missing a big moment there, i think, to make her case. >> my biggest question, matt, beyond trump co-opting the electability, when he lost the house, the senate and the white house over the course of his four years shouldn't be lost on anybody at this point in time. to the point both you and lee

are making, based on what you saw in the campaign, is there any path for anyone else right now? >> one of the biggest hurdles we suddenly had on the campaign trail was when trump started winning general election head-to-head matchups against joe biden -- >> which he didn't do. >> which he didn't do for a long time or for much of the campaign, i would say, until the fall. it took away the best argument for tim, nikki and ron. we would see people, i like trump. i just don't think he can win again. suddenly it gives them license. maybe he can and they can go with their gut. the electability argument, if he's losing by five or ten points, i swear this is a different primary campaign because they have to factor in their head versus who is going to win versus their heart. that's not the case anymore. >> thank you. stick around. you can watch nikki haley in a cnn town hall tonight moderated by jake tapper at 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn.

donald trump says four words that really quite literally revealed the campaign game in court. a judge threatens to go even further. new overnight, pakistan strikes iran in response to iran's deadly attacks yesterday. why this will likely inflame the already tenuous situation in the middle east. ththe prpresidentialal town live i in new hampmpshire.

donald trump lashing out in court, loudly, calling the defamation lawsuit against him a, quote, witch-hunt. while his accuser was testifying, he said audibly in open court, it really is a con job. now we've heard that language from him before, a lot, but after that, he said the quiet part out loud. the judge in the case warned trump he could be kicked out of court if the behavior continued saying, quote, i understand you're very eager for me to do that. and then trump said four very telling words, quote, i would love it. >> why would he love it? he has made no secret about why, votes and money. he has already said he believes 91 criminal counts he is facing are helping him on the campaign trail. here is a reminder. >> if i didn't get indicted all these times and if they didn't unfairly go after me, i would have won but it would have been much closer. >> his two biggest fund-raising days so far have been the first

time he was indicted and when the mug shot was released after he was booked in georgia. bottom line, playing the victim works for the former president on the campaign trail and he has been telling us that all along. >> this is a political witch-hunt the likes of which nobody has ever seen before. and i did nothing wrong. absolutely nothing wrong. this is a witch-hunt and it's a very corrupt trial. it's political warfare as you would call it or political law fare. >> along with legal analyst elie honig, the thing i was thinking throughout the course of the day, if a normal person was sitting in that district courtroom doing what trump was doing, what would have happened? >> would have been thrown out. the judge is a no nonsense judge, a zero nonsense judge in that federal courthouse. and to be muttering under your breath continually even after being warned by the judge in a way the jury can hear would get you an escort out of the courtroom. i think judge kaplan is being

careful here. he controls his courtroom. i think if donald trump continues to push, that may well happen. you identified the four most important words, i would love that. that's why he's there. nothing could serve his purposes better. i want to be clear, there's some legal strategy happening here. there's no question this is political. just keep in mind, he didn't even go to the first trial, which was really, in a way, higher stakes. now the result of the first trial that he's liable, they carry over to this trial. it's interesting to see the two of them, judge kaplan and two donald trumps, two alphas in their own environments, go at it. judge kaplan will prevail, but that may play to donald trump's advantage. >> i would love it, is that a sign of what is to come? he has a trouble trials ahead. >> absolutely it's a sign of what's to come, a sign of what we can look forward to over the next couple of months as all of these -- kind of the multitude of trials come forward. donald trump has already told us that he will be attending all of these trials. in addition to the trials he

does not have to attend, he doesn't have to be present for as he didn't have to be present for several of the trials we've had over the last couple of weeks. but it is a political strategy that is really smart for him right now. it has helped raise his profile. it has moved him from being a ghost in a lot of ways in the political apparatus, in the institution of the republican party, someone whose career was over, to now he is a victim. he is someone who needs to be protected. he is someone who needs to be supported. he's managed, as you mentioned, to raise an incredible amount of money off of this. and i think the more that we see of this, it strengthens his case to the republican party at-large. and i think one of the things that's really important here is that it's not just -- the way that he's framing this is these things are not just a legal and political attack on donald trump, they're a legal and political attack on the world of donald trump and trump

supporters. and so that is participate of how, really, he has made this into a political project that has really resonated with a large swath of the republican base. >> we've talked at length about how effective it's been. you have pages of notes that explain that in great detail and a very helpful manner. the question i keep coming back to is once this nomination is wrapped up, if that, in fact, becomes the case, how are non-republicans viewing things like this? reviewing these antics, these strategies, the way he's putting this stuff to the forefront? >> i think there's the question of how republicans and independents are hearing it, and democrats are hearing it negatively. it's energizing people to go out and vote for joe biden that otherwise wouldn't. but then there's this middle ground of folks and people who are independents, there's few true independents, who say, i might hate the way that he acts

except that i like some of his policies, or they believe the system is corrupt. more than 70% of americans believe there's a two tier system of justice. they believe the system is unfair. it's rigged to treat the elite differently than the rest of everybody else. this idea that donald trump can come in and blow up that model, that he's willing to fight back, that he's not afraid of all of the usual things, is appealing to a very large group of people. and that's why you're seeing the states that matter most, the seven states that matter most, that he can beat joe biden. and it's hard to understand for people who look at this and think he's nuts, but for those who really like this message, this idea of someone who will go fight for them, he talks about this isn't just about him, this is about us. they're coming after all of us. they can do it to me, to all of us, and it's very effective. >> i think there's a group in the middle, to lee's point, that says, when he says it's a pile-on, it starts to feel like that at a certain point. i'm not saying any of these cases individually are

unjustified. when you look at someone who in the course of 18 months or so charged with four criminal indictments, at least three major civil suits including e. jean carroll now twice, dozens of the 14th amendment charges, which i think will be rejecteded by the supreme court, you can understand -- first of all, you can understand how people can't keep it straight. we use the magic wall to put it visually because it's so much, but it does play into -- it's like a jujitsu move by donald trump. you use the other person's momentum against them to say this is a pile-on. >> and you're saying this as a former federal prosecutor who know what is it takes to go after someone, and you're saying this many cases of this magnitude in this period of time. >> yeah. again, you can look at any of these cases, and i can absolutely defend the criminal charges, the civil cases. i don't think it's necessarily anyone's fault, but i think when you take them, the mass of them, it plays into the point lee and leah have been making.

>> it's an effective point. maybe we can package something, the magical wall is available to someone at home at all times. that's how i figure it out. there's a smaller version we can utilize. thank you very much. >> president biden trying to broker a deal on the border and also funding for ukraine and israel. house speaker mike johnson telling kaitlan collins what can happen, any deal that reaches the chamber. >> iran-backed militants hit another u.s. ship. what else the u.s. is doing to stop the attacks next. five days before new hampshire goes to the polls, nikki haley makes her case and takes questions directly from voters. moderated by jake tapper, the cnn prpresidentialal town halll from new hampspshire tonigight 9:9:00 p.m. eaeastern.

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it is 26 past the hour. that is washington, d.c., both sides of pennsylvania avenue. you're looking at those live pictures, house speaker mike johnson is currently in that city casting very serious doubt on whether congress can pass a bipartisan immigration deal after top congressional leaders met with president biden at the white house on wednesday. they are blocking aid over immigration policy. johnson would not commit without those policies even if it passes

the u.s. senate. >> if the best we can get does not solve the problem and step the flow, it will not be acceptable on the house side. we have to solve the problem. this is not about getting political points for one side or the other, it's solving the problem that is a crisis for every community. every state is a border state now. >> this is after he left that meeting with the president, some democrats projected optimism after the meeting. not as much from speaker johnson unless they get everything they want, it sounds like. >> reporter: white house officials say president biden really went into this meeting trying to injexct a new sense o urgency. he's running up against the political reality this is complicated amid the push for border policy changes. the white house and president biden really used this 80-minute meeting to try to lay out the stakes for ukraine as this aid

is currently faltering over in congress. national security adviser jake sullivan and the director of national intelligence haynes really laid out point by point what the real world impacts would be to ukraine on the battlefield, even pointing to classified information as they made their case. the white house said that the president in his meeting discussed, quote, the strategic consequences of inaction for ukraine, the united states and the world. he was clear congress' continued failure to act endangers the nato alliance and the rest of the free world. the white house also said that president biden did acknowledge that he believes there needs to be action taken now to address some of the issues on the u.s. southern border, and that is where these negotiations and talks have been stuck, the approach how to address border policy is at odds up on capitol hill. republicans and democrats have been working to try to reach

some type of agreement for weeks now. the white house has made concessions in the talks. house speaker mike johnson said what is being proposed is dead on arrival in the house. >> if the bill looks like some of the things rumored, of course it's dead in the house. it wouldn't solve the problem. you can't do pieces of this and leave, for example, parole untouched, leave the current broken parole process untouched because it's a giant loophole that would allow all these people to continue to come in. >> reporter: and so this really speaks to the precarious nature of the talks even as you had congressional leaders coming out with the president saying it was productive and people expressing optimism, it's unclear how the house would proceed. some hard-liners are pushing for tougher border. >> it's like a rubik's cube trying to put this together. arlette saenz for us. businesses sounding the

alarm over attacks on ships in the red sea, how this round-about route vessels are being forced to take could mean higher costs for you soon. families of the uvalde school shooting see a new report what happened inside. why one parent walked out of the meeting with the attorney general.

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out more air strikes in yemen. the fourth round of strikes aimed at stopping iran-backed houthi militants from attacking ships in the red sea. and this comes as fears grow of the israel/hamas war and just widening this into a much wider conflict. >> hours before the new air strikes, the houthis struck a u.s.-owned and operated vessel for the second time in a week. central command said no one was injured and the ship was able to continue on its way. the strikes occurred on the same day the u.s. redesignated the houthis as a specially designated global terrorist entity. >> in a significant development overnight, the united states not the only country striking back against iran and its proxies. pakistan carried out a series of strikes in iran against what it is calling terrorist hideouts, and this comes a day after iran launched an attack in pakistan. ivan watson is following this. thank you for being with us. there's been all this talk about, is there a regional conflict? there is. and this really adds to it.

>> reporter: i think this is perhaps one of the most unlikely flare-ups i could have predicted even at the beginning of the week when pakistan and iran, which were kind of getting along, were scheduled to hold joint naval exercises, but iran carried out its own deadly missile strikes starting monday on syria and then tuesday night on pakistan and it stunned the ruling establishment there. they said at least two people were killed in what the iranians said were missile strikes on a militant group they accused of hiding out in pakistan and carrying out attacks on iran in the past. the pakistanis withdrew their ambassador, calling it a violation of pakistani airspace. they declared iran's ambassador to pakistan unwelcome and, just a few hours ago, the pakistani military claimed responsibility

for what it described as precision strikes into iran against a different militant group that it accuses of carrying out attacks on pakistan in the past. the iranian authorities say that killed at least nine people including a number of children and women. they're demanding an answer, not what you could have predicted at the beginning of the week, both neighbors are islamic republics, neither have relations with israel, and suddenly this flare-up of tensions. how will iran respond to this? does it want to get into a dust-up with its much larger nuclear armed neighbor to the east? >> ivan, thank you very much for that reporting. >> business leaders are sounding the eye large on how this could impact you. how long disruptions in the red sea could actually last.

>> initially we thought this would be a fairly short disruption. that means a lot more cost. >> richard quest live with us from davos. you've had interesting conversations with business leaders. when i saw you were speaking, i was really interested. if they have to go around the cape of good hope, it takes two more weeks, much more expensive things for us at home, right? >> yes, and the interesting reason is not just that it takes that extra 10 to 14 days to go around, but what they do, it's so finely tuned. it's taking longer, it costs more and vincent clerc goes through in a very clear way exactly how that increased cost comes about.

>> i think the level of threat today is really, really hard to assess on an objective basis, and i completely understand that. for us this is really about guaranteeing the safety of our crew, of our ships, and also of the cargo our customers are trusting us with. >> reporter: you'll have to take the long way around which is about 10 to 14 days depending on, as i understand -- >> that is correct. >> reporter: what is that in terms of cost? >> the exact cost of it is something that is really unfolding and we're trying to get our arms around. i have different levels. it takes about 8,000 miles more to get from china to the uk, south of the horn. that takes a couple of weeks, ships that have to go full throttle, more fuel. they will not be, despite that, back on time in china, and the containers take a longer time. you have costs piling on here, and the longer this lasts, the

more it will cost. >> reporter: the fascinating part of that is they literally have to put their foot on the gas so that they can get there as quickly as they can, burn more fuel, and then hoof it back to china as quickly as possible. for the u.s., it's slightly different, in a way, you're going across the pacific into the west coast which, of course, will increase the cost because more will have to go that way, and then you land by train or by truck across the united states. all in all it's not a disaster, it's not a calamity but is what the global economy does not need at the moment when it's trying to bring down prices and make things easier. >> totally, after years of supply chain disruptions, you have this. everyone at home will feel it in costs. richard, thank you very much. princess kate is in the hospital. king charles faces a health scare, too. why the usually private royal family went public with these conditions. one of the most influential

ceos in america talking with a warning to democrats about demonizing the maga movement. >> i think this negative talks about maga will hurt biden's election campaign. >> you'll hear more from jamie die macmon on that straight ahe. "money this morning" brought to you by adp. always designing for people.

jpmorgan chase ceo jamie dimon has thoughts and is warning democrats this election cycle watch what you say about donald trump and his supporters. >> i wish the democrats would think more carefully when they talk about maga. when people say maga, they're looking at people voting for trump, and they are scapegoating them that you are like him. but i don't think they're voting for trump because of family v values. he was kind of right about nato. kind of right about immigration. he grew the economy quite well. i don't like how he said things in mexico, but he wasn't wrong about critical issues. and that's why they're voting for him. i think people should be more respectful of our fellow

citizens. the democrats have done a good job with the deplorables. . can we just stop that stuff and grow up and treat people with respect and listen to them? this negative talk about maga will hurt biden's campaign. >> you rarely, if ever, hear ceos of huge companies be that candid on politics, two, jamie dimon has been no defender of donald trump. you'll remember how he went after trump's response to charlottesville in 2017. he has been impressed with nikki haley so far. let's talk about this in the big picture. we have lee, matt and leah. lee, let me start with you on this. what's so interesting about when jamie dimon talks about politics, he tells you what he really thinks? >> the point he made there is a lot of what trump did proved, in

his opinion, to be correct even if you don't like some of the styles, some of the things said, et cetera, and beyond that. so my question, is that warning democrats should heed and the biden administration should heed, about how you talk about supporters? that's the message he was saying. show respect when you talk about people who support trump for these reasons. >> it's a warning to the biden campaign and folks and how they court possible independents and moderates and to the business world, you need to surround yourself with people who don't think exactly like you, break out of your bubble a bit. what we've seen are too many corporations and companies walking in headfirst into some bad pr or bad issues because they don't go around the table and talk to anyone who voted for donald trump and it can head off a lot of issues. if you have a different perspective, if everyone thinks the exact same way you do

whether it's a boardroom or anything, that's a red flag. >> jamie diamond for president is the right message. >> i think big ackman tried that. he did. now he's moved on. >> he is so right, right? when you think about the moment hillary clinton lost the election in 2016, it was the moment -- >> the deplorables. >> that was game over. when you go after the supporters instead of the candidate, big problems follow. jamie dimon is a ceo of a company where, in america, probably hatch ofhalf of his clients voted for donald trump. he has to have a message of unity, but i think he's right. he went on to talk about how we have to stop accusing people of being like the former president instead of listening to underlying concerns. maga republicans, republicans at-large, have volume i had concerns. they're also concerned about

democracy, inflation, immigration, the economy, they're good people, many of them, and i think jamie dimon had a valid point. >> i think it's one you can see reflected in a very different approach than you heard in iowa on sunday. take a listen. >> so we have to have fair and free elections or we don't have a country. but that's caucuses are your personal chance to score the ultimate victory over all of the liars, cheaters, frauds, freaks, creeps and other quite nice people. that's a mouthful. >> i was being sarcastic. >> the thing i don't understand, and i'm not criticizing jamie dimon or the view of what he's saying or what you're saying about hillary clinton. trump says awful things about democrats and supporters of joe biden and hillary clinton and

everything like that, way worse than deplorables or you don't like them, and no one seems to care. the deep offense when people call them maga people, and i would like to know why. >> joe biden has been getting flak and getting hit from democrats, die hard democrats, and progressives about being too soft, i think, on donald trump which is interesting. it has become this idea of the threat to democracy. what i think is interesting is given jamie dimon has been so critical in the past why the about-face? why in this moment? why so rapidly especially when he spent the last three months championing nikki haley saying this is someone who is not chaotic, who is not spitting in people's faces and calling people names or falling for, you

know, revenge politics as the front -- as a front-runner of the party. part of what we have to look into is what does jamie dimon see as the pathway forward? is he -- one of the things he's identifying, he thinks trump is going to be the front-runner. >> he didn't say that. >> he says this is the person that is going to be the gop nominee. i think as he's thinking about -- as we're thinking about how is he framing this, we have to remember that jamie dimon is trying to think about an entryway into this relationship with trump. >> can i ask you a question, and this is about separating the policies that he laid out there, whether it's with nato, whether it's on immigration, the economy, china, and the words the former president chooses to use, the way he does it, do you see what i'm saying? can you see a separation there?

or is it take it all or leave it all? >> i think jamie dimon says we should be able to separate. >> right. that's what i'm asking. >> the problem is, someone like trump -- i'm not talking about supporters. that's a different conversation. with someone like trump, there is no separation. i think it's very difficult to essentially make an argument that is effectively white washing the president's ideas and policies. this was one of jamie dimon's central criticisms. maybe trump is right about immigration. two years ago he was blasting the president for his stance on immigration in the way that he is talking about immigrants. you can't divorce the two. it's something that has to be evaluated alongside how we are thinking of running this argument about an existential threat to democracy. >> i think it's a fascinating

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this morning two members of the british royal family are facing health issues, king charles will be hospitalized next week for an enlarged prostate. his daughter-in-law, catherine, princess of wales, recovering from abdominal surgery. >> her last public appearance was on christmas day with prince william and their children. cnn's max foster has been following this, joins us live from london. max, it's so rare for the royal family to disclose personal information like this. why now? why did this happen? >> reporter: i think in terms of kate, she was in hospital. there's a public interest knowing she was in hospital. she might have been seen leaving the hospital and we would have

asked questions about why err engagements were being canceled. i think that was out of necessity. charles didn't necessarily have to reveal details of his enlarged prostate. in common with thousands of men each year, the king has sought treatment for an enlarged prostate. his condition is benign and will attend hospital next week for a corrective procedure. the public engagements will be postponed so he had to let people know he was meeting he wasn't going. a source telling us he wanted to encourage other men to have their prostates checked. in the past we wouldn't have heard any medical details at all. >> and both of them at the same time. any update on how princess kate is doing, recovering? >> reporter: an update suggests things are going well. we were told there wouldn't be

an update until she left hospital or things took a turn for the worse. kate is keen to protect her kids from this but it is all over the front of the papers, in "the telegraph" or "the mirror." this is a reference to how william is also giving up his public diary to support the family. let's pray that you're both okay, so that's the headline in one paper. people have been alarmed about the amount of recovery time kate needs from this, more than three months in total it could be and here in "the sun" royals rocked by kate op. in reference to my point three out of the four of the top royals are out of action in public. it's down to queen camilla to be the face of the entire monarchy. the idea is they