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at this point. the purple line you're looking at shows connectivity since before the war began. the drops are outages. this one is noticeably longer than any of the others and its effective force can't be overstated. no phone lines, no internet access makes it extremely difficult if not impossible to get any humanitarian aid into the enclave to communicate with anybody. we have though in occasional moments, you can get a breakthrough. we were able to get one dispatch from the aid worker we've been talking to since the war began. you've heard a lot from him. he reached us on a borrowed phone with a special sim card. that's how he did it. he's telling us what it is like right now where he is. >> the sewage water is filling the streets. there are no pavements. there are no streets basically. everything has been obliterated and wiped out. it's really difficult to maintain our dignity as palestinians living in the north
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of gaza. >> losing their dignity. the fight for survival as mahmoud describes it. and it is continuing for so many in gaza who are suffering tonight. thank you for joining us. ac "360" starts now. tonight on "360," breaking news. the former president tells the supreme court to keep him on the colorado ballot warning there will be, quote, chaos and bedlam if it doesn't. also breaking, hunter biden now says he'll talk to house republicans who are looking to impeach his dad and he'll do it their way behind closed doors. and later, keeping them honest. what a parent whose child was murdered thinks the justice department released today dealing all the ways authorities in texas failed to do their jobs and tried to evade accountability. thank you for being with us. we begin with the former president's supreme court filing late today in the case that could decide whether colorado can bar him from the ballot under the 14th amendment's insurrection clause.
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tonight's brief comes three weeks ahead of oral arguments in the case and about seven weeks before colorado's march 5th primary. jessica schneider joins us with the latest. what does this say about the implications of letting the supreme court ruling stand? >> yeah. the former president's legal team is telling the supreme court that colorado got it wrong when it ruled to take trump off the ballot and they're really warning if this isn't fixed, if states continue to be allowed to take candidates off the ballot, they're saying it will unleash chaos. they said that in the first page of this 50-page filing. i'll read some of it. it says the court should put a swift and decisive end to these ballot disqualification efforts which threaten to disenfranchise tens of millions of americans and which promise to unleash chaos and bedlam if other state courts and state officials follow colorado's lead and exclude the likely republican presidential nominee from their ballots. and they're saying this because so far, two states have ruled to take trump off the ballot.
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colorado and maine. both of those decisions are on hold until the supreme court eventually rules. that'll really means trump's name will in fact appear on the primary ballots, despite the court's ruling that they shouldn't be. the bigger question is really what happens when we head toward the general election. if trump is the nominee. and that's why his team here is urging the supreme court to come down on their side and not let individual states take matters into their own hands in deciding who should and shouldn't be on the ballot. >> what's the next steps for the case? >> the brief that we saw tonight. that is the opening steps in the case. trump's team laid out all of their arguments. the next step will be the voters who won in colorado. they have to file their arguments by the end of this month. and then it will be heard quickly, on february 8th. the supreme court has already fast tracked this case. it is hugely consequential. we have the general election less than ten months away. primaries already underway. and trump's legal team is asking the court to really consider
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this issue very broadly. they're laying out all the legal arguments in the brief tonight. several arguments. they're saying trump did not engage in insurrection which the lower courts here found that he did. and then they're saying the section of the 14th amendment, it doesn't apply to him anyway and it really, they're saying it can't be used to denial trump access to the ballot. the nine justices will have a lot to consider when they here these arguments. who knows how many arguments they'll actually rule. on there's a lot at stake. like i said, just about ten months until the general election. >> thank you very much. with me here, the senior legal analyst, and joining us, secretary of state janet griswold. i wonder what you make of the president's legal team, particularly that removing him from the ballot would unleash chaos and bedlam. >> i think it is really interesting they chose to use that language. it's just more of donald trump saying that if he's not in
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charge, the country is doomed. but the language itself on top of that, i hope is not a threat to the stability of our country. donald trump has used his words to incite violence on january 6th with the insurrection, and violence to election workers, judges, anybody who stands up to him and stands up for our democratic institutions. i think it is just more of the same and it underlines how dangerous he is to the country. >> wouldn't it be chaotic though if voters in your state and any other state, maine, felt that they were disenfranchised? violent or not, but certainly chaotic, no? >> well, he used two words in that description. not just chaotic. and anderson, at the end of the day, it's my job and all secretaries of state job to uphold the united states constitution. there is clear language in section 3 of the amendment about
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when elected officials or anybody who swears to uphold the constitution engage in snurgs. it would be equally chot toig not uphold the constitution in this case. so i think there's lots of legal arguments. >> ellie, how do you see it? what are the odds that the supreme court will go with the president's brief? >> i think the supreme court will agree with donald trump. i think they will strike down what colorado has done here. donald trump makes two categories of arguments. one is factual. he says i didn't engage in insurrection. i don't think the supreme court will touch that. i think donald trump makes his lawyers make some powerful legal and procedural arguments. for example, and second griswold mentions the text of the 14th amendment. the 14th amendment section 5 says congress, the u.s. congress, should pass legislation to enforce this. it does not say congress or the states if they so choose. if i can ask what your view is, madam secretary, about that. that section 5 says congress
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shall pass legislation. it doesn't say anything about the states. >> section 3 also specifically talks about the role of congress. and the role of congress in section 3, the provision we're talking about, is congress can determine that someone can be seated for office, even if they did engage in insurrection, by a certain amount of votes. so that is clear language. on top of that, the historical record of this provision is that section 3 of the 14th amendment is self-executing, meaning that congress did not and does not have to pass legislation. it has been used throughout american history without congress passing a law to enable e self in self-executing? who actually enforces this? who makes the decision in. >> well, the states.
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it is up to individual states to decide who they're going for for president. that's why we have different elections in every single state. that's also why i think the colorado supreme court got it right in colorado. to your point, it is pretty evident that trump engaged in insurrection. but on top of that, i would say, section 3 of the 14th amendment is clear. and other clauses in the constitution let states determine how to execute elections. that's exactly what is happening in this case. >> i want to play, madam secretary, one of the things former president trump's attorney said about what would happen. >> i think it should be a slam-dunk in the supreme court. i have faith in them. people like kavanaugh who the president fought for, who the president went through hell to get into place, he'll step up. those people will step up. not because they're pro trump but because they're pro law. because they're pro fairness.
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and the law in this is very clear. >> i wonder how you interpret that. she's indicating that kavanaugh would step up because the former president went to bat for him. then she quickly corrects himself and says he wouldn't step up because of that. he would do it because he cares about the law. >> i just think it is so reckless of his attorney to have said that. let alone even thought it. it undermines the independence or the perceived independence of the court. i think the bigger picture is that this is how donald trump operates. he wants people around him to be loyal only to him. he wants them to set aside the law, the stags, even so far as saying, if he would assassinate a political opponent, he wouldn't face liability. that's one of the reasons i do think he is extremely dangerous and i think ultimately, it is very likely that the american people will have a huge role in
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saying our democracy and i'm not waiting for the supreme court to do it. other breaking news, hunter biden last seen silently facing republican lawmakers who subpoenaed him. he previously challenged them to hear his testimony in a public setting, not the private one that they wanted. that was last week. now it appears he's doing his talking on their terms. so what about this deposition? why is hunter biden apparently dropped his insistence on only testifying publicly? >> this is a significant reversal. he said he would refuse to go behind closed doors, worried that republicans would distort and leak his testimony. but he was facing the possibility of being held in contempt of congress. there was a vote expected this week. it was unclear if he would be prosecuted but that was a real possibility. that's why republicans believe he changed his mind. hunter biden's team has not explained why he has agreed to sit behind closed doors on
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january 28th. james comer said he would be willing to have a public hearing after the deposition. we may see in public. >> what has the reaction been among the house committees? >> the republicans have been pushing for this for some time. even some democrats i spoke to are hopeful that this will ultimately end the republican push, the republican belief that there was nefarious activity going on involving joe biden and hunter biden. that's what republicans have been investigating. trying to make the connection between the business dealings, something they haven't been able to prove. democrats say they hope ultimately it will scuttle that notion if there was any connection there. just listen to what they had to say. >> i suspect that he will be the final nail in the coffin of what is a completely bogus impeachment investigation based
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on what he said publicly previously. i'm eager for him to come in, set the record straight. respond to the slanderous attacks that have been made against him by republicans for years now. >> he said publicly that there was nothing, any of his business dealings. if he says that under oath, will you take him at his word? >> if he swears under oath, and answers the questions, that's information that we'll take in, certainly. there's a little question that he was peddling a brand. who else would hire the vice president's son with no experience for that purpose? that doesn't mean that it implicates the president. >> and that last comment coming from a vulnerable republican member who will be critical in deciding whether or not joe biden will get impeached. and those members who are vulnerable, not yet certain whether to impeach joe biden. want to here from hunter biden.
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whether or not he confirms any of these accusations of many republicans have been leveling against the president. if he doesn't. he they could scuttle this investigation that has been going on for some time that many hope will get there. coming up next, the campaign trail and nikki haley's focus on the former president's campaign trail. also the conservative talk show host joins us. and later the parent of a murdered uvalde student. cataloguing all the ways law enforcement failed his child and so many otothers that t horribl day.
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with just five days until the republican new hampshire primary, in a moment we'll be joined by hugh huette who spoke about it. >> re >> in five days we shock the country. >> reporter: nikki haley sees a path in the final days to the new hampshire primary. one that increasingly involves going right through donald trump. >> the reality is, who lost the house for us? who lost the senate? who lost the white house? donald trump, donald trump, donald trump. >> reporter: it's a notable shift for haley who until now has largely focused her criticism on policy differences.
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>> he threw a temper tantrum last night. he's doing other thing to stop me. >> reporter: there's a crucial bottom line at the ballot box. >> i'm going to tell you the truth. you're going to see a lot of things said. at the end. day, it's the drama and the vengeance and the vindictiveness we want to get out of the way. >> reporter: she was the only one campaigning thursday hoping to capitalize on the toned down desantis. they're shifting focus to states beyond new hampshire. >> nikki haley cannot compete with donald trump there. and the fact that she can't do it there, she can't do it anywhere. she certainly won't do it in south carolina. >> reporter: meanwhile, former president trump has turned his attention squarely on haley here as a weaker candidate to take on biden. >> the vote for nikki haley this tuesday is a vote for joe biden
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and a democrat congress. that's what will happen. >> reporter: even going after his rival personally, promoting lies on social media about her eligibility to run for president despite haley being born in the u.s. >> he can say whatever he wants. his record has been that he lost the house. he lost the senate. he lost the white house. that's a fact. that's not what i'm saying. that's what he's done. >> and omar jimenez is in new hampshire tonight. how are the haley's attacks playing? >> we are at one of her rallies today. she talked about trying to get the vengeance and vindictiveness out of politics, referring to trump, that's when the crowd broke out in applause. she also hit him for growing the national debt and saying she, based on polls, is in better position to beat biden than trump. some of her most pointed comments. one of the most interesting things, when chris christie dropped out of the race. i talked to a lot of his supporters who were thinking about going to nikki haley.
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those that hesitated said they didn't think she was going after trump directly enough. it will be interesting to see if what we saw today is the beginning of a pattern or more of a strategy or more of just a one off response to some of the attacks that we've seen from trump in the final run-up to the election. >> thanks very much. joining us now, conservative talk radio host hugh hewitt. good to see you. what is your sense from talking to desantis about his fought? did you feel like he's preparing on some level for the end of his run? >> good to see you, too. i do not think he is preparing for the end of the run. i think he will run at least through march. super tuesday has 16 states voting on march 5th. another four a week later. so i think he's geared up to go through march and to be the only alternative left standing if the ambassador does not prevail tomorrow. she's way behind in south carolina. after the iowa avalanche for trump, it became very obvious
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that it is a big climb for anyone, anderson, to beat the former president in the nomination. they allow to you bet on this in great britain. it's a 1 on 10 run. ron desantis is 14-1 in england for the republican nomination. i think it is a very, very difficult task for either of them. if haley loses tonight, ron desantis will be the last one standing up against the former president. >> does the plan to stay in the race for another month until certainly through south carolina, regardless of what happens, does that make sense to you? trump is very popular in south carolina. it's not as if he's not. >> i don't see a path for ambassador haley. i think that's why she goes to media the last week. i think the iowa avalanche crushed her. i do see a potential, events happen, things happen that one person left in the race with enough money and some super pac, governor desantis has an
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operation. he's very smart, as you understand. you've talked with him. i led off the interview talking about chevron preference. he knew all the supreme court law. he's very very smart. but is what america wants smart now? or do they want another rematch of trump versus biden? one the frsormer president is ahead in right now. >> i want to look at this where desantis thinks he went wrong in his campaign. >> i spent a lot of time on the ground in iowa. when you meet people, you convert them. there are just so many voters out there that you have to do. i came in not doing as much media. i should have been blanketing. i should have gone on all the corporate shows. >> it's true he did not do that. do you think it was his choice of media outlets that was a problem? his stiffness on the campaign trail? he does seem far more comfortable now. and i would be interested to
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hear your thoughts. he thought very comfortable in that cnn debate with nikki haley. it was a two-person debate and therefore easier to deal with. he says he likes being the underdog. >> the televised debate, he was great. he's been on eight times. 9 nikki haley, eight time. i would think people want to live there. this year the record, not just ron desantis but nikki haley and everybody but chris christie decided they wouldn't talk to conservatives. they would talk to anyone and manage their message. you can't do that against the former president because he's ubiquitous. he's everywhere. he get great ratings. if he showed up right now at your studio, you would talk to him for an hour. he wins by showing up. it is a lesson for future candidates. always take every interview anywhere. >> it also seems like nikki
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haley is playing it safe and not taking questions at town halls in new hampshire which, of course, is a tradition in new hampshire. >> i grew up in the summer to the north. she was is a person. she did take questions. i think iowa really stunned a lot of people. 50% win. i've been doing this a long time. i've never seen anyone dominate a field in sub zero temperatures and they're sub zero for everyone. for donald trump's voters and nikki haley's voters and desantis's voters. the jack smith main stream court, all of these people are helping donald trump get nominated. and they're doing a heck of a good job it a. and will the former president is not hurting himself either. >> good to talk to you as always. thank you. a quick programming note.
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nikki haley joins us at the top of the hour. coming up, the department of justice report after a gunman entered the robb elementary school in uvalde, texas, in may of 2022. as you may remember, children called 911 to tell law enforcement about a shooting. 77 minutes passed between the arrival of law enforcement and when they finally confronted and killed thehe shohooter. wewe'll tell w what you ththe d found.
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give your business a head start in 2024 with this great offer. plus, ask how to get up to $1000 prepaid card with qualifying internet. other. for almost two years, the 19 children and two teachers murdered in uvalde, texas, have been waiting for the truth about how the nearly 400 officers who had arrived that today, may
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24th, 2022, could wait 77 minutes to confront a single killer. about why in the minds of the families, there has been so little communication. today the justice department release ad nearly 600-page review. the fullest accounting we have today. our reporter broke numerous stories about the botched police response, tried to hold people accountable. he joins us from uvalde about the details in the report and what's missing. a lot of what is in the report confirms the dogged reporting that you and your team have done on this. is there anything different you didn't know before? >> reporter: not really, anderson. the one thing i will say that they illustrated, and it was an important part of this report. we know about the failures. so not in terms of that. it's what happened with the families in the moments after, once they breached the classroom and were able to get the kids
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outside. and how they treated the victims. how they treated the families, given in some instances, they were given bad information. some of that was new. and just the acknowledgement by the department of justice that the pain and the grief that these families have been suffering, one, because of the loss of their little kids. and the other, because of how they've been treated by officials, by the law enforcement community here. by the city government. and that to me was so striking. and for the families, it was an important moment because they finally had someone in a position of power to acknowledge what they have been dealing with. what they have had to face in all this controversy here that has been during in uvalde. they just don't feel supported by the community. >> it is incredible, as you've been documenting. over the course of the entire time, there have been time where families have gotten information from you that law enforcement
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authorities in texas did not give directly to the families. i mean, the lack of communication has just been adding insult to injury. i know there are three officers who were singled out in the doj report. what does it say about their actions? >> reporter: so it's the three that we've done extensive reporting on on your show. the school police chief, pete arredondo who they say was the de facto commander, the guy at the scene. then they blame two other law enforcement officials. the acting police chief that day in uvalde, mariano pargas, for his lack of leadership, and then the sheriff who is still the sheriff of this county. he is actually running to be sheriff again. there's an election that's coming up. so you have the first two individuals i named. they're gone. they're no longer police officials. but the sheriff is still the
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sheriff in this town. the department of justice went to great lengths to talk about how he lacked any kind of leadership, and that he withheld information. critical information about who the shooter was from officials. and actually, anderson, a short time ago before we came on air here. we saw the sheriff. he's here behind me in this building. there's a forum. a political forum for the candidates that are running and we actually asked him questions about the latest report. he was defiant and seemingly just not in touch with what people here are feeling. take a listen. >> 16 minutes before -- >> reporter: they're saying it was you not taking a leadership role and telling the officers to go in the classroom, that you were present there with the other leaders of law enforcement on that day. that you didn't go in and tell officers -- >> i'm the lead law enforcement official in the county.
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i got there 16 minutes later. >> reporter: who? >> the chief of police that was there. >> reporter: which one? >> the police. so that's really, you entrust somebody. and that's the information that you are receiving. >> wow! >> and actually what the department of justice said in their report, the sheriff should have taken a leadership role. he is the leading law enforcement official in this county. he should have taken action. he should have ordered his personnel into that room. he had enough information to know that there was an active shooter. ins instead, as you hear, and the other time that i've interviewed him, he's blaming other people. the school police chief. and then at one point -- >> go ahead. sorry. >> go ahead. >> what is so infuriating, yes, he was entrusting this guy.
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he came 16 minutes later. this other guy made mistakes. he could have overridden him on the universal training for how to deal with shooters. i've read the fbi reports on how to deal with school shooters. you have to go in. everybody has to go in as quickly as possible. this has been trained since columbine. every law enforcement personnel knows this. so he in a position to have overridden things, should have. >> absolutely. and something else, he doesn't even have the proper training. that was the other thing that has been discovered here in all of this. he was lacking some of the training. i asked the sheriff. he didn't have the training that was needed to make the decisions but he was in this leadership role. and the other thing, when i asked him, i said to him, are you upset by what the department of justice is saying about you? and he said simply, no. i'm not upset. and he said he will continue to run for office. he has no plans on stepping
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aside and he's going to let this community make a decision on whether or not he should continue being the sheriff. that's kind of been the attitude here. for now almost two years, anderson, and it is really upsetting for these families. >> thank you. i'll be joined in a moment. the step granddaughter was murdered that day. her son angel garza is her stepfather. he he rush to the scene. that's when he found out what happened to including anne marie. he had raised her since she was 8 months old. i spoke to him after the shooting. >> one little girl was covered in blood head to toe. i asked her if she was injured. i asked what was wrong. she said she was okay, she was hysterical saying they killed her best friend. she was not breathing and she tried to call the cops.
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i asked her the name. and she told me, she said ann ma marie. >> that's how you learned. >> she was so sweet. she was the sweetest little girl who did nothing wrong. >> we're joined now, thank you for being with us. after waiting so long for answers, accountability. did this report today give you any of those? >> it basically just told us what we already knew. what we had already seen through body cam footage and all the reports that had come out with the help of shimone.
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it was still a blow to see it in writing. to hear the ag, mr. merrick tell us the what the findings were. to say that had they breached sooner, a lot of lives could have been saved. and we believe that she would have been one of them. >> i want to play more of what the attorney general said today. let's listen. >> i think the report concludes that had law enforcement agencies followed generally accepted practices in an active shooter situation, gone right after the shooter to stop him, lives would have been saved and people would have survived. >> the families and reporters and many others have been saying that since the beginning. do you feel like you've gotten any accountability from texas
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officials? >> no. i feel like everyone has been pointing fingers at each other. no one wants to take responsibility. no one wants to take accountability. from day one, lack of communication. nobody took charge. we did not see anybody trying to take charge. we didn't see anybody trying to find out who was in charge. everybody was just standing there. not communicating with each other. even when they got information. they weren't relaying the information. we saw it plain as day, getting information from the pd itself and didn't tell anybody about it. then we hear, oh, i didn't want to get clapped. if it were my child, i would have gone in there. it was me, me, me. nobody is taking responsibility
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just like with that that he just talked to. he didn't feel like he should be held accountable either when he knew prior to everybody else, he knew. everybody just thinks, oh, wasn't me, it wasn't me. >> does it surprise you that he's running for re-election? >> yes and no. he's not the only one. there are several that are running for re-elections. it just, it is really -- it baffled me why they would even do that. they have the audacity to run for re-election after knowing that they failed. it is there in black and white. there may not be enough to bring charges to them but there's enough proof to show they failed tremendously. >> what do you want people to
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know about amerie jo? >> that she died a hero. she had a heart of gold and she never met a stranger. she wasn't even, she worried about what was going on in that moment. she told chloe, oh, it will pass. we're going to be okay. and she died trying to save her classmates. and she will always be my hero. >> even in the midst of that horror and that fear that she must have been feeling, she was telling a friend it was going to be okay. she cared about her friend. >> yes. she befriended everybody who came across her path. she was a very sweet little girl. very charming, very sophisticated. she was just so adorable. >> thank you so much for talking to us. i'm so sorry for your loss and i appreciate you spending time with us tonight. >> thank you for having us.
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and angel sends his regards as well. >> please send him my best. still to come as we noted earlier, donald trump was not on the campaign trail today. he was attending the final for his wife's mom. when we come back, i'll have more on the relalationship betwn melania a and her momom.
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on the campaign trail wednesday, the former president trump spoke about his wife's mom. the former president was off the campaign trail today for the fun funeral. >> my hard-working mother amalija introduced me to fashion and beauty. >> reporter: melania trump praising her mother at the 2016 convention. >> integrity, convention and intelligence reflects to this day on me and for my love of family and america. >> reporter: her mother amalija knavs was born in 1945 in austria, and then later moved to slovenia. according to her obituary, her mother harvested onions on the family farm before taking a job in a state-owned children's clothing factory as a textile worker. the article says melania's
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mother sewed clothes for her and her sister. she began her modeling career in slovenia and said she was inspired by her mother's work. she shared more at her funeral. >> she effortlessly introduced me to the world of fargs in paris and neighboring european capitals. we each whispered details of the splendor fashion shows, speck cities and chic boutiques. she ignited passion within me. a desire to immerse myself in this extraordinary universe. >> reporter: her parents owned a home in central slovenia with a population of about 5,000. that's where the former first lady attended primary school. she spoke fondly of her time growing up there which included family ski trips in the alps. after her son was born in 2006, her parents, now grandparents,
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began spending most of their time in new york. in 2018, melania's mother and father both became u.s. citizens obtaining their citizenship with the help of the former first lady's sponsorship. melania's mother was often spotted in washington, d.c. her parents also traveled with the former first family to mar-a-lago and bedminster. trump's inauguration, the 2016 republican national convention, and numerous treks along the white house lawn to marine one. when her mother died last week, melania posted about the loss on social media describing her mother as a strong woman who always carried herself with grace, warmth, and dignity. adding, she was entirely devoted to her husband, daughters, grandson and son-in-law. we will continue to only had and love her legacy. at her funeral, melania trump
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talked about the bond they shared. >> she was my dear friend. an irreplaceable treasure. a gift to me by the universe. for that, i'm entirely grateful. rest in peace, my beloved mommy. >> amalija was 78 years old. from the funeral, it was clear that both melania trump and her son had a very close bond with her mother. she spoke about that during the eulogy saying she showered her grandson with love, tenner care and unwavering devotion. she also made clear how much she leaned on her mother that she was a ray of light in the darkest days and offering unwavering times. she always found peace with her mother there to listen. next, we take you back to new hampshire as we get closer
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to our town hall with nikki haley. see what is asked about whether trump legitimately won in 2020. what voters s said when n they asked ththe same queuestions.
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♪ ♪ statements about the 2020 election or criminal charges he faces. things he says over and over again and his supporters believe him. entrance polling shows evidence of this in iowa. but what about voters in new hampshire? >> reporter: we came to downtown
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portsmouth, new hampshire, with two specific questions for people who plan to vote in tuesday's republican primary. both questions that were asked on cnn's entrance poll in iowa. the first, is donald trump fit for the presidency if convicted of a crime? and 65% of republicans said yes, he's fit for the presidency, almost two-thirds. how do you feel about that? is he fit if convicted? >> i do feel as though he is still fit to be president of the united states, yes. >> so if he's found guilty, you would still vote for him? >> yes. >> this gentleman feels differently. >> if he's convicted, i don't think he should be president. >> is trump fit for the presidency if he's convicted of a crime, 91 downs against him? >> i would say yes, because i don't think there's any legitimate things they're charging him for. >> why is that? >> what are they charging him
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for? it's all crap stuff that biden wants. >> reporter: we told him there's no evidence that president biden is behind any of this, but hank is sticking with what he believes. >> biden is going to everything he can do to get him out. >> that's what donald trump is saying, that biden is against him, but you're believing trump about that? >> yes. >> reporter: there was the second question from cnn's entrance poll, also showing nearly two-thirds of iowa caucus-goers siding with trump. >> you're voting for donald trump. question is, do you think joe biden legitimately won the election in 2020? >> yes. >> dick says he's probably voting for ron desantis. do you think joe biden legitimately won in 2020? >> yeah. i do. >> reporter: mary lou is voting for haley. do you think joe biden won legitimately in 2020? >> yes, i do. >> do you think joe biden legitimately won the election in
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2020? >> i do. >> does it bother you that donald trump keeps saying that's not the case? >> no, i doesn't bother me. i expect that from him. >> reporter: alex feels much differently. he's a trump supporter who's pretty much all in. >> there was a lot of fi nagle going on new york city doubt about it. whether it caused him to win, i don't know. >> what kind of finagling? >> just with the voters stealing of ballots, i think, hearing things about trucks carrying ballots. >> you're talking about hearing about these things. >> well, seeing them on tv. >> but there's no evidence of that. it's something that donald trump keeps talking about and saying, but there's no evidence of any widespread fraud. yet, you believe there was? >> i really do, yeah. >> reporter: what happens if donald trump ends up hearing one or more guilty verdicts? if he's convicts of one of these
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crimes, would you still vote for him? >> yes, i would. >> do you think it's possible that trump is making up things as he goes along, that he's basically punking you? >> no. >> did any of the voters you spoke with say they're bothered by lack of evidence for his claims about the 2020 election being stolen? >> reporter: i have talked to a few people who are voting for donald trump this tuesday who say they are bothered by the lack of evidence, they are bothered that he keeps talking about these allegations, but not bothered enough not to vote for him this tuesday. >> our town hall with nikki haley is just minutes away. before we come back, see who paid a visit to the princess of wales as she recovers in a hospital from abdominal surgery.
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kate, the princess of wales, continues to recover at a london hospital from what the palace has called successful abdominal surgery. today she got a individual from
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her husband prince william. william is taking a step back from royal duties to support his wife and their three young children. according to kensington palace, kate will be hospitalized for up to two weeks and faces recovery for months at home. kate and william also cancelled all travel for the foreseeable future. they usually travel early in the year, but will miss an expected international spring tour. king charles will go to the hospital next week for an enlarged prostate procedure. his wife camilla said she is fine and looking forward to getting back to royal duties. that's it for us. i'll tell you tomorrow. the cnn republican presidential totown hall with nikkiki haley starts now. ♪