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very mixed on the, uh, on this indictment. i have to admit, you're mixed on it because you think that the responsibility should fall to the armorer and who the supervising producer over the armor. i think it ultimately falls on the armorer, but i think also the first aid bears a great amount of, uh, of blame here because he picked the gun up off a prop table. there's a story of jon-erik hexum, uh, an actor in the 80s, and he picked a gun off a prop table, put it to his head, uh, in a
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joke, and ended up sending about a quarter sized piece of his skull into his brain. and that was just loaded with blanks. and it's kind of changed the way things have done. uh, and nobody is allowed to touch a firearm on my set unless i authorize it. it goes from my holster to the talent's hands and then once that's once cut is called, it goes right back into my holster. so i think the first aid bears a lot of responsibility here. alec baldwin was told it was a clean gun. so in my opinion, i don't see how this indictment is valid. i have to be honest with you, joey, to scott's point, it's likely going to be a difficult case to prove. >> i'm wondering if you also think that it could set a precedent for actors on a set where there is weapons, whether they're modified weapons in this case or otherwise. >> so, boris, i do i do think it sets a very difficult standard. and at what point does an actor have reason to believe that what he's told is what he's told, that that information could be relied upon? and i think to scott's point, you're going to have many jurors when they
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assess whether or not alec baldwin was negligent to the degree that it rises to a crime, what was his response ability? did he have the right to take into account what someone told him? what are the protocols? were there breakdowns prior to the gun even getting into his hands? was the gun modified in any way such that it went off without him having to exert any power or pressure, as he indicated he didn't do? and so to scott's indication, he in essence is right in his statements. it sort of i'm envisioning what they'll be saying if it gets this far in a jury room in terms of who's response able. yes. you know, this. there's someone dead here that's very significant, uh, meaningful, precious life has been taken away. the issue is whether it was his negligence that was the result of that. and that's what a jury will have to determine. but it does bar set a very, uh, very difficult precedent moving forward. >> yeah. it's just so sad. what is it? the heart of this scott, josh and joey. thank you to all
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of you. we really appreciate your perspective here. thank you. >> of course, we're continuing to follow a breaking story. just outside of washington, dc. a small commuter airplane made an emergency landing on a virginia roadway shortly after it took off from dulles international airport. >> seven people were on board this single engine cessna when it made the hard landing. we have cnn aviation correspondent pete muntean with us now. we also have cnn transportation analyst and former inspector general of the department of transportation, mary schiavo. pete, tell us what you're learning about what happened. >> we're learning a lot and more developments coming all the time. the flight crew of this flight, the southern airways express flight 246, it's a cessna caravan. there typically seats about nine people. they were able to radio the dulles town tower just after takeoff. and this incident occurred and say, we've landed on a road, we've got two pilots and five passengers on board. everybody is okay. that is the big headline that we're now getting. the faa confirms that seven
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people were on board this airplane after apparent engine problems almost right after takeoff. this flight took off about 1250. this afternoon from dulles international airport on runway three zero. that goes to the northwest. not perfect weather. there only visibility of about a mile and a quarter. a low cloud ceiling. it was snowing at the time when the engine quits in a single engine airplane, you got to commit and go for something that looks like a runway. often a road. but the challenge
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this is insane, what do i do? it landed, went underneath the traffic light, got squarely over here and hit the guardrail. it looks like it only damage the propeller, but -- once it landed, i parked the car and ran up to them and make sure everyone is okay. >> loudoun county parkway, mills drive. it's a pretty busy intersection. schools were closed today, heading over to virginia because of the snow. not a lot of people driving at the time. don't really need to intermix an airplane with the traffic. the one risk here of an engine failure after takeoff, you can't really turn back to the
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runway. it's as a possible turn to be very dangerous, so you have to make a little bit of a turn left her a little bit of a turn right, and commit to something and land, and that is exactly what this crew did. they did a tremendous job of getting this airplane on the ground and really not all that much damage. you can see the propeller hurled a little bit. i will be something investigators can look at, and maybe the question is whether or not it's producing a little bit of power in that of a complete power loss. i would be speculating, of course that will be something that investigators want to look at. this is an incredible job done and really challenging conditions and had to react really quickly, only about 1000 feet above the ground. >> speaking of what investigators will be looked at, and we've heard in the details what we've learned so
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far about this. and then you still have this propeller bending. that means it had some power, probably not full power. and there was a flight tracking website that had climbed about 800 feet in two minutes. it should climb about 800 feet in one minute, so it had half the rate of climb. something went on there with
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the power. and then the investigators were also looking at the weather performance of this aircraft. this aircraft doesn't have heated things. this aircraft knocked off snow and ice off it's wing and part of its tail with something called boots. rubber pieces on the plane that expanded and contracted not the nice off. with a boot deicing system, rather than heated services, in bad weather, they always are concerned and investigators always look at whether and they could've suffered some tail icing as it builds up just like it does on the wings, and they always want to look at any kind of accident. that's one thing you are taught in flight school. you have to pick your emergency landing if you got a problem, and you know, technically, it's illegal to land on a highway or road, but not if in a declared emergency. he did a great job of missing all the sides. he got under the signs and over
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the signs and around the wires. that is awfully good. we are very lucky we are both. >> it certainly is. let's talk a little bit more about the weather and the temperatures. we were looking, the temperatures around freezing here in d.c. it's been below freezing. i think a lot of people would be worried about the pipes freezing just to put it in the context about what we are dealing with here. a system like that were you mentioned the boots, what else would there be for deicing that would just be standard in these kinds of temperatures that they might be looking at? >> for this kind of a plane, the surfaces are heated, and it's a more robust system. but the boots are -- the wings, they go literally the length of the wing. you can see the black images there on the wings, those are deicing. on the tail, it's only part of
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the tail. because the pilots want to be able to tell the faa exactly what happened and that he was losing power and things like that, they don't have to wonder if it's tail icing organizing problem. and i'm in pennsylvania where the flight was headed. the weather is terrible here, too. they always look at that and they want to make sure that that didn't have anything to do with it, and if all the systems were working well. and of course, you have to know if your plane can take the weather before you take off, but that does not seem to be what happened, because the pilot said they didn't have sufficient power and they had an engine problem. >> all right. really interesting, and thank goodness that they are all pe and mary, we do appreciate it. >> still to come, the attorney general weighing in on president trump's legal issues in an use of interview with cnn. why he says a speedy trial is in the back public's best
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interest. fed up with bickering. several texas mayors calling for a meaningful compromise depicts the rift between president biden and governor greg abbott. and later, a new deadline for fulton county's d.a. to respond to allegations between an improper relationship with her special prosecutor. those stories and much more on cnn news central.
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right now, donald trump is fighting for his political future both on the campaign trail and in the boardroom. ahead of the new hampshire primary, his lawyers filed a brief with the supreme court saying the ruling that removed him from the colorado ballot must be reversed. they are arguing that if the colorado ruling stands, it would unleash chaos and bedlam.
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>> earlier in the day, attorney general merrick garland made rare public comments on the status of trumps criminal cases is an exclusive interview. he pushed back against claims of political bias in the justice department. >> what we have to do is show the act that we take that we are following the law. the prosecutions we are talking about were brought last year, and the special prosecutor has said from the beginning that he think public interest requires a speedy trial, which i agree with. and it's now in the hands of the trial judge. >> let's dig deeper with nick ackerman. he also served as assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york.
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thank you so much for being with us. how significant is it that the ag weighed in on the selection subversion case against donald trump? >> i think it's pretty significant. the problem, of course, is that donald trump and his minions have been doing everything they can to denigrate this case. call it a witch hunt, say it is uncalled for, that it is election interference. i think it's very important that somebody way in and talk about the importance of this case and what it means, and certainly, the attorney general is the proper person to do that. keep in mind that normally the justice department really can't talk much about a case. attorney general garland didn't say much about this case. but there is that kind of problem where you got donald trump and his group just lobbing lots of grenades at this case, all of which are, for the most part, lies.
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it's a situation where the attorney general could basically kind of give his two cents on this matter. >> that's all we can do with this point. there's lies, and there's not a whole lot that the ag can do. jack smith the special counsel, because this was sort of spun off to create that reparation. he's been very deliberate about trying to make this not political. this is something that is separate. does the ag weighing in at all affect that? is that something the former president can say, hey, look, the ag is weighing in on this? >> they weighed in on such a minor way. it's not like he went into a great deal of detail in the case. it's clear that he has no supervisory authority with the case. he did not decide to bring the case. it was done by jack smith. so i think it was done in a very measured way that really didn't involve the attorney
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general at all in the actual nitty-gritty and workings of the case. >> i'm curious about the timing here. if the presidential immunity issue is resolved at a certain point in time, it may mean that the case, or at least some of these cases, our ongoing right before the november election. what are your thoughts about the doj prosecuting a candidate for president just a few months out from election day? >> i think it's like to be pretty quick. i think the d.c. circuit is going to condemn an opinion, possibly today, early next week, and i think the case is going to get back on track and you are going to see this case going to trial in march. i don't think we are going to have that concern. but look, the only reason this case is being slowed down and the only reason it may not be tried immediately right now is because donald trump is doing everything he can do to delay it. so it's hard to really give
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much weight, the idea that this is a problem for the election. he's purposely trying to delay this case as much as he can. >> nick ackerman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> still ahead, partisan bickering between the state and federal government over the border is doing not much to solve the human humanitarian crisis there. we are live at the border. the ma c
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texas authorities arrested more migrants along the southern u.s. border at eagle pass. about 10 people taken into custody earlier this morning. cnn obtaining video showing the latest detentions here, and the migrants were able to navigate barriers put up by texas authorities about the rio grande as far as a part public take over. the secretary of state is holding meetings on the crisis with officials from mexico. the texas watertown mayors so they are fed up with the politics and they want the partisan bickering between state and federal authorities to top. rosa florez is in eagle pass for us. rosa, you are in the area that has been taken over by texas police. what are you seeing? >> well, i want to show you ride with me, because it's not just shelby part i was taken over by the state of texas.
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it's about 2.5 miles of the rio grande. if you look right here to my left, you'll see this first fencing that just went up. that is new. then there are several layers of razor wire, and he keeps on going and going. that's why we wanted to do this driving to really give you a purse active of what is going on here in this area. every now and then, you will see that there are either pieces of clothing or shoes or things in between this razor wire. that's what migrants use squeeze in between the wire to get across to the united states. all of this wire is not stopping the illegal immigration. as a matter of fact, we just learned that there is about 19 people crossing just behind us, and we have video of what's happening once they arrive here to the united states, and it's actually state authorities who are arresting the individuals. i want you to take a look
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around. there is no border patrol in this area. again, because the state of texas took over the area last week, and that is -- that is the -- the issue here, that the state of texas took over, and border patrol doesn't have access. and that's the tussle between the federal government and the date right now. the state government is digging in their heels, saying that they are not going to surrender. as you can see, this goes on for miles and miles. now, the number of migrant apprehensions has plummeted. it was about 10,000 per day in mid-december. now, it's about 4000 per day. it is still high. there is still illegal immigration, but it is not at that level. this will give you a sense of what migrants do to get in. those are some blankets and some other items that are used to cross into the united
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states, but there are no signs here that the state of texas is going to give this up or, in the words of texas attorney general ken paxton, texas does not plan to surrender to the biden administration. >> in the end, what they are asking for just falls on deaf ears? >> you know, what we see on the ground is that a lot of the time, it's the municipalities that end up filling the gaps for the failures of the federal government. and even when the state government intervenes, like in this case, the state of texas has taken over, but that doesn't solve the problem. you will just get a sense -- what smugglers are doing, is they are simply going beyond this razor wire. it eventually ends. i could go on for miles and miles, and you continue to see this fencing and mold all levels of razor wire.
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but it eventually ends, and that's what we've learned smugglers are taking migrants to those areas. and i talked to individuals who live in those residential areas, and that's exactly what they tell me they are seeing. they are starting to see that migrants are ending up there in large groups, and that buses are driving into these neighborhoods to transport those migrants to processing facilities. and so, again, it is the municipalities and the individuals, the citizens, the residents of these communities that end up paying the price. back to you guys. >> rosa, thank you so much for taking us along on that ride with you. we do appreciate it. still to come, more details involving the georgia election subversion case. could the d.a. be disqualified?
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is a new legal twist involving the district attorney processing case against donald trump and some of his supporters. the fulton county d.a. is now trying to squash a subpoena seeking the testimony in the divorce proceedings of nathan wade. >> wade is a special prosecutor that willis hired to help manage the trump case. the two are accused of being
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involved in a romantic relationship. justice correspondent jessica schneider is following all of the developments here. willis is seeking to avoid testifying on what grounds? >> she is just saying that she shouldn't have to testify. any information isn't even relevant. this has become a messy legal battle that is threatening to derail the case that is moving forward against trump and the more than dozen co-defendants he has in georgia. first of all, she's trying to avoid being deposed in this divorce case between hurley prosecutor and his wife. what's interesting, and just filed papers in court, the wife is now producing credit card receipts that she says prove that fanny willis and nathan wade, his credit card statements show that nathan wade actually bought tickets for willis to accompany him on at least two out-of-state trips. they do show that they purchased airline tickets for the two of them to miami in
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october 2022, san francisco in april 2023. wade is saying this is proof of romantic relationship. all of this has been swirling and a judge is scheduled a hearing to consider whether willis should actually be disqualified from this case because of the allegations of this relationship. all of this began earlier this month when one of the defendants in the selections version case in georgia, mike roman, is a former trump campaign official. he moved to disqualify these allegations that she had an improper relationship with wade. and on top of that, this co- defendant of trumps is alleging that the special prosecutor, wade, actually used the money he billed to work in this case, which adds up so far to $650,000, to actually take willis on those lavish vacations. we haven't seen any exact public proof of these accusations, but this latest filing from wade's wife today
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shows these credit card statements that seem to show that willis and wade did travel together on at least two occasions. these credit card statements. it really has gotten really messy on two different legal fronts. love the divorce proceedings where she is trying to avoid being deposed, and then this could potentially mess with the trump legal case and his co- defendants, because that judge has scheduled at february 14th hearing to see if willis should be disqualified. very messy right now with a lot of these accusations flying in court. >> this is raising a whole lot of potentially very consequential questions here. jessica schneider, thank you for that. a new wrinkle in the investigation of coronavirus and its origins. how did a scientist put it genetic makeup and a database two weeks before it existed?
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the virologist was asked for a reset message which that nih never received. it was january 11, 2020 that the world health organization then received its findings from china. to be clear, the sequence doesn't indicate the origins of the virus but it does undermine the chinese government's claims about its knowledge of the pathogen. with us now is jeremy camille, he's a virologist and associate professor of microbiology and immunity at lsu health, shreveport. thank you for being with us. help us understand the significance of this genetic sequence being submitted two weeks before it was released by china. what does that imply to you? >> thank you for having me, boris, i think it's important that people understand that it's actually not new news that china had genetic sequence of the virus as early as december 26, so that part of the story
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isn't as shocking as people are making it out to be, however, what is interesting is it shows you that people in china were trying to do the right thing. they were trying to share this data on the genetic sequence of the virus which, if we had been able to successfully process that on the u.s. senate, the database that the scientist uploaded it to. if we had gotten it out faster, it would've been two weeks faster with coming up with pcr tests, diagnostics, therapeutics and of course, vaccines. so it's important that we acknowledge that we can do better at perhaps automating how we prioritize what sequences get out because this was treated like a routine research sequence and hindsight, 2020, it's clear now that was a really important sequence. at the time it was treated like any other in the database which could have been a fly genome or anything else. the database was dealt.
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>> you said it shows that some people in china were trying to do the right thing. does that imply that in your mind, the chinese government was purposely withholding information? >> absolutely not. it doesn't say that the government was trying to withhold anything necessarily but if you are a scientist in a country like china, even in a country like the u.s., there is some prestige associated with being first so if a small lab has a sequence and was to ask mother may i, can i share this publicly, they might have encountered a, well, wait a minute, the prestigious top lab, you wait, but instead the lab went and they probably recognize this might be a concern. it was a new coronavirus, they
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thought it was important to get the data out and they tried their best to do so. so they were trying to hide it, it was just may be a time of chaos, and individual scientists were trying to do their best to make this data available to as many eyeballs around the world as possible and indeed it would have made quite a big difference if the first attempt had gone through smoothly. >> and can you explain why this genetic sequence and this sort of development doesn't give us insight into the origin of the virus, whether it came from a lab or just occurred in nature? >> well, to be clear, there is no evidence, no good scientific evidence that this is a engineered virus at all. it looks almost identical to coronavirus's that have been found since, in that, so we already know this is almost certainly a virus that was brought by wildlife trade. it's a multibillion dollar industry in china where they bring animals from all over the region two markets to be sold as food, and they bring them with live animals, so it looks like a bat virus that got into
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some intermittent host and the sequence doesn't give you anything new in terms of think that it might have been engineered or not. it's almost identical to sequences that were released later. >> dr. camille, we have to leave it there. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you, boris, have a great day. sending a text to the wrong person can be super embarrassing, just ask rob lowe because the hollywood stars that he sent an awkward text to bradley cooper. we will tell you what it says, after a quick break.
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have you ever sent a text to the wrong person and it's usually followed by this rush of blood to your head, this awful sense of regret, maybe even panic. rob lowe can empathize. he sent bradley cooper a congratulatory text for winning a golden glow. the problem is that cooper didn't win. lowe explained his gaffe on jimmy kimmel live. >> so down he does this amazing acceptance speech and i'm so excited for him so i text him, so glad you wonder, that is the most beautiful acceptance speech i've heard in a long time, boy, do you deserve it, i realized [ bleep ] i just sent that to bradley cooper. who did not win at the golden globes. so then i was like, oh i got to make it better and then i said no i meant that for robert downey jr. but that's even worse.
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that's even worse. >> cooper was nominated for a best actor golden globe for maestro but he lost to cillian murphy from oppenheimer. you ever do that, boris? >> i have, actually. i was joking around with a friend one time on face time and he was in the bathtub for some reason and i took a screenshot to harassing with it later when he was giving a speech and i was going to send them a screenshot in the middle of the speech and i accidentally sent it to my family group text. has it ever happened to you? >> i've been on the receiving end of it where i ended up responding to something saying, you do realize you are texting me about me, right? i wish it had just been a bathtub picture. >> they were gossiping about you and they sent it to you? not a good feeling. not a good feeling. >> it's a
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