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wasn't ascending. and listen to this call to air traffic control from the cockpit of this cargo plane as the incident unfolded. >> may day, may day. heavy engine fire. we have five souls on board and we have about five hours of fuel on board. >> amazing, right? just the calm with which that pilot conveyed the situation. the plane had been in the air for 14 minutes total. the incident started three minutes into the flight so 11 minutes of that harrowing situation according to flight aware. we should notice, when he said they have five hours of fuel. turning around and landing with so much fuel can be disastrous. and yet, with all that calm, they did it. they followed procedures. they were able to land safely back in miami. just an incredible thing. a testament to the professionalism there. ac "360" starts now.
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tonight on "360," all aboard in new hampshire. just four days before the primary south carolina senator tim scott is expected to endorse the former president snubbing south carolina governor nikki haley and becoming the latest republican of many to fall in line. more breaking news tonight. a new georgia court filing adding to the controversy over the trump special prosecutor. the d.a. fani willis who filed allegations of an improper relationship. and later, alec baldwin and how he came to be charged with involuntary manslaughter after similar charges were dropped last year in a deadly shooting onset. we begin with breaking news. within the next hour or so, south carolina senator tim scott is expected to endorse the former president who has been working to establish himself after just one contest as the inevitable nominee. to that point, republican
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lawmakers are certainly helping and it shows how early and eagerly they've been falling in line compared to the first trump campaign. on february 28th, 2016, then alabama jeff sessions became the first republican senator to endorse then candidate trump. this was after trump victories in new hampshire, nevada, and south carolina. this time around, the endorsements have been coming earlier. in some cases, much earlier. ted cruz and marco rubio. senator rick scott gave his nod. that is slow compared to tommy t tuberville. we'll have more on what this says about the former president and his party in a moment. first, at the new hampshire trump event where senator scott will give his expected endorsement. what do we know about this event tonight? >> reporter: this is a huge pick-up for donald trump. in typical trump fashion, they are trying to make this
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potential, or this expected tim scott endorsement a moment. we saw the senator tease this endorsement earlier today. he tweeted a photo right before boarding the private plane that trump flies on and flying with him to new hampshire for this event tonight. i'm told that he will come up and give remarks and praise the former president and call for four more years. what's important to note is how this came together. donald trump and his team, according to my conversations with his campaign. they've really pursued tim scott for this endorsement ever since he dropped out of presidential race last year. and they were really hoping that he would give his endorsement before south carolina. in recent weeks, as trump and his team have watched nikki haley rise, they're trying to undercut her momentum in the granite state. >> certainly a bl for ambassador
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haley who was instrumental in tim scott's career. what has been the reaction from her? is it clear how this endorsement could impact not just new hampshire but south carolina? >> reporter: it's definitely a big blow. she was governor and while she was governor, she was the one who actually appointed tim scott to the senate in 2012. we did here her respond. she issued a statement to cnn earlier, she said, quote, it's interesting that trump is lining up with all the washington insiders when he claimed he wanted to drain the swamp. the fellas will do what the fellas are going to do. we've seen haley use this language before, anderson. she really tried to use this to take a shot at donald trump and claim that he's not the outsider that he paints himself to be but really he's part of the boys club in washington. we also heard from new hampshire governor chris sununu. he was pretty dismissive of this. he said to reporters today, if anyone cared about tim scott, he would still be running for
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president. just to answer your part to the second question, this endorsement is very importance. the trump team sees this as showing he is likely to do very well in the state. and it is such an important state to win for donald trump. not just because it's haley's home state but because they really see south carolina as the place where the race will change. the trump campaign can effectively really end the primary season and try to lock up the gop nomination months before the july national convention. >> thanks so much. we want to get perspective the way republicans are falling in line. joining us, former republican political consultant, his most recent book is the conspiracy to end america. also with us, cnn political analyst van jones. stewart, how big of a boone is this for the trump campaign? the scott endorsement? how big a blow to nikki haley? >> i think endorsements generally don't matter much.
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when it is someone you appointed and it is the other senator from your home state, i think it does matter. likewise, i think you have to flip these things. would it be really good for nikki haley if tim scott was on the stage endorsing her tonight? that would be pretty good. this is just part of a complete collapse of the republican party in my view. the senators who, a lot of them issued very strong statements after january 6th. and yet now they're falling in line. while at the same time, a new york court has found donald trump liable of rape. it is really just inconceivable to me that this has happened to the republican party. the reason donald trump is winning is because he is giving republicans what they want. nobody is making anybody vote for donald trump. and he's running away with this probably unlike anything in modern history. he's really performing like an incumbent president. >> we should point out it was
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sexual abuse that the former president did. what does it say that the former candidate chose trump over haley? >> it's sad. eight years ago, marco rubio was running and he was on stage. it was marco rubio, tim scott, nikki haley. and as a democrat, you saw that picture. an african american, an asian -- there it is right there. and you were shocked. holy crap. is this the new face of the republican party? democrats are in trouble. if you said eight years later that donald trump would be the face of the party, and rubio and scott would like it, and would be happy to pile on against nikki haley while she's being slammed with racist innuendos from donald trump. no way! that would be some crazy twilight zone black mirror episode. it is impossible. this republican party is moving in a positive direction. here you are eight years later. it's a clown show. how can a tim scott who
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represents decency, who represents civility. there is something really bad happening in that party and it is distressing. >> stewart, last year when ambassador haley was preparing to launch her campaign, you wrote a "new york times" op-ed. you said no political figure better illustrates the tragic collapse of the moderate republican party than nikki haley. her rise and fall only highlights what many of us already knew. mr. trump didn't change the republican party. he revealed it. and the moral failure of the party and its drive to win at any cost. a drive so ruthless and insistent, it has transformed the gop into an autocratic movement. what do you make of her and trump going after each other in recent days? i remember the stuff nikki haley was saying when president trump was first running, or when candidate trump was running in 2016. she was incredibly tough on him. just categorically, she was
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linking him with the kkk. >> yeah. van is exactly right. the event in south carolina, just think if she had held true. she could be running for president saying, i thought donald trump would not be a good president. i did not expect him to attempt to overthrow the government of the united states and refuse to accept a not very close election. i was rite. the party has gone in the wrong direction. we must save it. instead, she just folded. like the entire party has. and this is why i say that donald trump has revealed the party, not changed it. i just don't think people abandon deeply held beliefs in a couple years. so does nikki haley really believe that? she said donald trump was everything i taught my children not to be. now she'll end up endorsing him for president? she already raised her hand in a debate and that she would endorse him even if he's convicted. running this campaign, you can
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be given no greater gift than being given an endorsement with 91 indictments. by the way, my opponent has 91 counts. instead, it's all this stylistic stuff. washington insider. i mean, it's just absolutely -- the problem with unimaginable, it's difficult to imagine. >> van -- how much of this tim scott endorsement do you think is about him maybe wanting to get reelected as a senator and needing the support of all the folks who trump has to support by, and how much is him wanting to be vice president? >> it sounds like you're saying he might be somewhat political here? yes. i would say the answer to your question is yes. it has to do with both. look. to give him his due, donald trump is a runaway train.
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to maybe stand in front of a runaway train is not advisable. i imagine he wants to be considered to be vice president. he certainly, he came out against donald trump, he might deal with a trump challenger in a primary. tim scott could just not say nothing. i mean, you're literally in a situation, let's not forget, where donald trump is using her foreign-sounding name, saying that she can't run for president because her parents weren't born here. the same kind of crap that he pulled with obama. this is really bad stuff. this is not good stuff. one of the great things about tim scott. he stood up to president trump on some of this stuff after massacres and stuff like that. that's part of why there's a deep well of affection for him in the community even though he's in a different party than most of us. but this is not the time. donald trump is pulling out all the nasty race cards to stand next to him today.
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tomorrow if he wanted to. i think it is very, very surprising to see tim scott do this. who he is is a decent man, a decent human being. what he stands for is that. this is a weird moment for tim scott. >> safe to say, someone who will not be getting on the trump train any time soon. senior political commentator, republican congressman adam kinzinger. congressman, you overlapped tim scott in the house before nikki haley appointed him. are you surprising he's endorsing trump and doing it now? >> yeah. i was shaking my head the whole time they were talking in agreement. i never expected this from tim. i know him as van said, as a decent man. somebody concerned about character. he chose to put himself and his political career above others.
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it was implied by stewart. maybe he even said it. nikki haley appointed tim scott to the senate. she made him a u.s. senator where he could then become a national figure and then launch his campaign for president that failed. he could have waited until after new hampshire. there is something going on in people's soul where it's like, as the bible says, what is it to gain the whole world but lose your soul? there are people just wanting to gain the world right now and donald trump has done a masterful job of convincing people they can't stand up against him so they won't. >> how much of it is, do you think, volunteer, and how much is strong-arm tactics by the team of the former president? >> it's probably strong-arm tactics saying do you want to get reelected when you're up? i don't know when tim scott is up. do you want to be considered for vice president? i think tim scott do very well
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be on trump's list for vice president. a lot of it is in his mind saying i don't want to stand there. i've been in these political positions. there were time i should have taken on the president and i didn't. there were times that i did and i knew the cost. you recognize i'll be out of the game if i take this too much. he's convinced his base. donald trump is a masterful victim. he's somebody that is scared of his own shadow and he's frankly scared of everybody. but he puts up a really good front that he's not and he puts up what appears to be a tough front and it cajoles people like tim scott to not even wait until after new hampshire. give nikki a chance to take it to new hampshire. i don't think it will affect her too much in new hampshire. it shows the momentum that donald trump has been doing, a good job of showing momentum. and it is pretty disheartening.
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>> she said it was off the table. wasn't something she had been willing to say previously. did you think that's just because she realized she's no longer in the running for that? >> i don't know. she should have said this a long time ago. she's been asked this question many times. i guarantee if donald trump said do you want to be vice president, she would do it. now she's starting in new hampshire to take him on more. the problem is we need to reverse the clock back to august or september, whenever the first debate was. and that's when those people running for president needed to be taking on donald trump. not three days out from new hampshire. they needed to be doing it then. so look. i doubt that donald trump will ask her to be his vice president. i'm going to tell you. if he did, she would say yes in a heartbeat. >> thanks. coming up next, breaking news that no one bringing a case against the former president would welcome.
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fani facing a court case after records show her lead prosecutor paid for her out of state travel with him. also, the former president's effort to get e. jean carroll's charges against him thrown out.
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more breaking news. a major case against the former president that is to your knowledge into a major mess. a commission launched a probe into allegations that fani willis misused county funds and accepted gifts and personal benefits from the special prosecutor that she hired to prosecute the case. his name is nathan wade. they are already facing allegations of having an improper relationship including the former president. and the county commissioner's revelation follows a divorce proceeding that wade paid for willis to travel with him on out of state trips. kaitlin joins us with more. what did you learn from the court filing in this special prosecutor's divorce case? >> this divorce case is becoming juicy. it is giving us insight into the district attorney, fani willis. that's why it is of interest. so jocelyn wade, the woman who two years ago said she was going to be divorcing nathan wade, the top prosecutor in fulton county,
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georgia. he also agreed to this divorce two years ago. now jocelyn wade is openly accusing nathan wade of having essentially a relationship with fani willis, the d.a. and she says that she wants to know more information from fani willis such as this information about trips that they may have taken that nathan wade would have been paying for. what he is making from the district attorney's office. because that's all relevant to the divorce. her argument is that they need to divide assets. she doesn't know how much money he has that he's making. so she wants information. she wants to even depose district attorney fani willis as soon as next week. >> there is a d.a. made any comment? >> she has. she stepped up in court and said i want to not be deposed next week. there's nothing i have that is relevant to this divorce proceeding that has been going on for two years.
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the district attorney fani willis says in a recent filing that jocelyn wade, soon to be ex-wife of nathan wade, the top prosecutor, is using the legal process to harass and embarrass d.a. willis and in doing so, is obstructing and interfering with an ongoing criminal prosecution. of course, nathan wade is the top prosecutor on the trump case with all the other defendants. there's clearly a political probable bubbling up that is drawing attention, and d.a. willis says in her filing that she is wondering if jocelyn wade might be working with some of these criminal defendants, at least one of them, who has tried to drag the proceeding into the criminal case around election interference. and see if there's some sort of conspiracy there between them where they're trying to smear her. >> so fulton county commission irlaunched an inquiry into the matter. where does that stand? >> that's the news we just learned of today. this evening. it is a republican commissioner
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in fulton county who is serving on an audit, a chair of the audit board. he's requested information from d.a. willis. the question for him boils down to, is there a misuse of county funds here? now, we don't know what he'll be able to get out of that. it is unclear if he's really going to have the power to dig into this, at least as much as the divorce proceedings could dig into this. at the end of the day, we should be watching what that in the divorce proceeding, as well as what happens in court in this election interference case. there's set to be a hearing in the middle of february about this. if there are any specific ethical issues, or any conflicts of interest that really should be weighing in on that. we just don't know yet if there is something tha t real problems
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for the d.a. i'm not so concerned with the name of the relationship between d.a. willis and mr. wade. it doesn't really matter to me looking at this legally, if they're having a romantic relationship or not. >> there is no legal ramification -- there is no legal ramification if they were having a relationship. i mean, she hired him, is there some sort of employer problem? >> well, so right. this gets into the potential conflict of interest now suddenly he's leading the case. and when we look at the money
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here, mr. wade is one of three outside attorneys who is being brought in on a contract basis to work with the d.a. nothing uncommon about that. but if we look at the amount of money that has been paid to these three lawyers over the last two years. one of them made $73,000. one has made $90,000. and mr . to legal sanctions against her or the lead prosecutor? and ramifications if she had to leave the case? does that matter in the case against the former president? >> i do not think this will be a basis to dismiss the charges against donald trump or any of the other charges. it does not have to do with the merits or the defendant's
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constitutional rights. however, we could see a couple of outcomes. if there is a conflict of interest, then yes, the d.a. could be disqualified from this case for conflict of interest. and then the next question about, would that mean her whole office is disqualified? meaning the case would have the probably move to a neighboring d.a.'s office. and then second of all, the question about what this does for the public confidence in this case. public confidence matters to prosecutors. if there is a glaring conflict of interest and problems with money, you can bet it will undermine public confidence. >> and willis tried to squash the subpoena, calling her to testify next week. accusing his estranged wife of trying to ruin the election interference case. if she has something to hide, why not be deposed? >> i think the d.a. is far out of line here. she receives a subpoena in a divorce case. the subpoena is not an accusation. it mean you're a witness who has relevant information. clearly, she has information about mr. wade, about his
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finances, about whatever his current relationships may be. the way the d.a. responded to that is she took the criminal case against donald trump and injected that into the divorce case, trying to use it as a shield from her having to testify. she clearly has relevant information. i think it is very improper for her to say, you're trying to interfere with this criminal case. that's the d.a. who is using the criminal case as a shield. and i think she's wrong there. >> and it isn't the first time that willis has faced questions. a judge barred her. she held a fund-raiser for the eventual opponent. at some point, her judgment has been called into question before. >> yeah, and i think fairly. the incident you're referring to. the d.a. hosted a fund-raiser for the political opponent of a person who she subpoenaed and the judge, a different judge overseeing the grand jury, disqualified fani willis from that portion of the case.
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this was a why who had been very supportive of her. he said on the record, i quote, what were you thinking? he said it is very poor optics. i think there is genuine reason to question the d.a. on this. she ran for and holds an enormously powerful position. shies the chief law enforcement officer of a very large county in georgia. and i think she needs the hold herself to a higher level of professional ethics and responsibility. she's causing problems for herself and potentially this case. >> it's extraordinary. thanks. coming up, the former president has often turned appearances into campaign stops. what a jury found in that first trial that he sexually abused e. jean carroll. a closer look at last year's decision that t serves as the fofoundation o of thisis year'r. that's nexext. to duckduckgo on all your devie
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two major developments in the president's second defamation trial to tell you about where a verdict is likely next week. sources late today saying trump is likely to appear in court again monday which would be the third time he's attended the trial. he, of course, does not have to appear. as noted, it has become part of his unofficial campaign schedule. his legal team once again demanded a mistrial over some emails deleted by carroll they claim are crucial. earlier in the week, as we told you before, the judge denied the motion almost immediately after it was raised. sometimes getting lost in this trial is the jury decision last year that underpins the current trial that donald j. trump was guilty of sexual abuse. >> reporter: it happened nearly three decades ago in a new york department store. advice columnist e. jean carroll
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said she was leaving berg dorf. >> he said i want to buy a present. for who? for a girl. so i was enchanted. >> reporter: carroll said they went to the lingerie department on the sixth floor and joked about who should try to a sheer body suit. she followed trump into a dressing room. that's when she said a light-hearted encounter turned into a life-changing assault. >> the minute i was in there, he shut the door and pushed me up against it. banged my head on the wall. and kissed me. it was so shocking. >> reporter: she said trump pinned her to the wall and pulled down her tights. >> that's when it turned serious. i realized this was, this was a fight. >> reporter: carroll said she fled the store and largely kept the 1996 encounter secret. wasn't until june 2019 when she shared the story publicly. new york magazine ran an excerpt
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from her new memoir. trump has continued to deny the encounter happened and even knowing carroll. >> i have no idea who this woman is. this is a woman who has accused other men of things, as you know. it is a totally false accusation. >> reporter: carroll first sued trump in 2019 for defamation. for years, he successfully tied the case up in litigation. in 2022, under new york state's adult survivors act, she filed a second lawsuit against trump. this time for battery and defamation. that case went to trial last year. trump didn't appear in court but his video deposition was played before the jury where he denied raping carroll. >> she said that i did something to her that never took place. there was no anything. i know nothing about this nut job. >> reporter: he even mistook carroll in a photo for his second wife, marla maples. >> that's marla, yeah.
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that's my wife. >> reporter: which woman are you pointing to? >> here. >> reporter: and when questioned about it, he defended the infamous access hollywood time where trump was caught off camera making lewd remarks about women. >> this is very old news, fully litigated. during debates and everything else. fully litigated. do you know what i say? locker room talk. it was locker room talk. >> reporter: the jury ultimately found that trump did sexually abuse carroll and defame her. they awarded carroll $5 million. but trump didn't stop. one day after the verdict at a cnn town hall, trump repeated his statements. >> and i wear, i've never done that. i swear. i have no idea who the hell -- >> mr. president -- >> reporter: carroll updated her 2019 lawsuit now seeking more than $10 million for trump's repeated verbal attacks and denials. meanwhile, the former president is squeezing in court appearances to his packed campaign schedule. his attorneys say he may testify
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next week. >> hello, new hampshire! >> reporter: cnn new york. >> joined now by george conway. can you remind our viewers of how you met e. jean carroll? what role you played in her decision to sue the former president? >> i met her in 2019, about a week after the report of her story came out. the book came out. the excerpt in new york magazine calm out. and i had reason a piece in the "washington post" talking about how, if anyone believed in juanita broad rick who made claims against bill clinton that donald trump trumpeted during the 2016 campaign, then they should believe jean carroll as well. she had witnesses who she told about the event right after it happen. and i thought it was pretty compelling and pretty persuasive. and i ran into jean carroll by happenstance in manhattan a few days after writing that piece
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and she came up and introduced herself and thanked me for writing the piece in the "washington post." and asked, some people are saying i should sue. do you think i have a claim? and i said yes. immediately. it took basically no thinking. it's like, he's lying about you and that's a defamation. that's a defamation claim. then about ten seconds later, i thought, oh, i know precisely the lawyer who should be handling this. an excellent lawyer who had become a friend of mine who has been since that day, representing her. and that's how i got to know jean carroll. that's how she met her lawyer and the rest is what we have now. >> as you know, the former president's attorney questioned carroll this week about her association with you. asked if you planted the seed for her to sue the former president. does it matter if any legal senses who advise as plaintiff to file a lawsuit? >> no. not at all. it came out in the first trial. the fact e. jean's lawyers
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brought that out so there's no secret there. nothing to hide. it is also completely irrelevant. for some reason, trump and his counsel seem obsessed with that fact. and they brought it up consistently again and again in the first trial to the point where the judge had to tell them to stop. and then they did it. they're doing it again this week. i'm kind of flattered by it but it is kind of bizarre. >> what do you make of how trump has handled this phase of the case? >> look. i think this whole case is something of a microcosm of his, frankly, his mental state. his tendency to lie and lie again will his tendency to attack. he lied about, he lied about the fact that he never met her. in fact there was a photograph that came out of her with him in 2019, no, in the 1990s.
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he then lies about what happened. he then lies about, he says that she's not his type, he said that in 2019. and it turns out then he confuses her, as you saw, as that excerpt showed, for his former wife marla maples which means that she must have been his type. and it is just the craziness of it all. the fact that he continually, after being found to have defamed her. after a jury found that, you know, that he raped her, he's then continuing to assert this and he's doing it outside the courtroom. it's crazy. inside the courtroom, his lawyers are trying to minimize what he did and minimize what happened. and yet, he's repeating the lies over and over again.
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repeating the defamation which completely defeats what his lawyers are trying to do inside the courthouse. it's crazy. >> thank you. appreciate it. alec baldwin charged for a second time in the fatal "rust" shooting. we'll tell you why and what they are saying.
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involuntary manslaughter. prosecutors are trying to hold him criminally responsible for the fatal shooting of the is not matographer halyna hutchins. similar charges were dropped against him last spring. prosecutors said they could not proceed with the evidence they had at the time. then in october they said they had new facts. what more do we know about this indictment? >> if this sounds familiar to viewers, it is. this is now the second round of charges filed against actor alec baldwin. to walk viewers through the time line, he was previously indicted in january 2023. a very similar involuntary manslaughter charge. the charges were dropped because prosecutors at the time said there was an issue with a piece of evidence. a law enforcement source told me, that evidence was the gun itself that was used in that shooting. there were questions about whether it had been modified which raised questions about its reliability as a piece of evidence.
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interestingly, the fbi analysts determined that gun could not have fired without someone pulling the trigger. alec baldwin for his part has long proclaimed his innocence. he said he did not pull the trigger on that weapon. nevertheless, we're learning today, this grand jury in new mexico issuing this indictment. two counts here. it is involuntary manslaughter, negative use of a firearm, involuntary manslaughter without due caution or circumspection. all of that getting to negligence. there is a question of how live ammo got on the set to begin with. the new prosecutors working on the case are filing very similar charges to what was filed before. >> you previously interviewed a prosecutor about the culture on the set. what did she say? >> yeah. this was the district attorney who brought that original set of charges. cnn, beinterviewed her after that indictment. she said there was a culture of negligence. we've been reporting on cnn about accidental discharges on the set previously. about members of the senate who
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describe feeling unsafe in and around the making of this movie. i should mention, the producers of the movie, they have denied all of that. take a listen to this interview about what they found as part of the investigation and what led to them at the time to file charges. >> there was such a lack of safety and safety standards on that set. there were live rounds onset. they were mixed in with regular dummy rounds. nobody was checking those. they weren't checking them consistently. they somehow got loaded into a gun. handed off to alec baldwin. he didn't check it. he didn't do any of the thing he was supposed to do to make sure he was safe or anyone around him was safe. he pointed the give up at halyna hutchins and he pulled the trigger. >> and again, team baldwin disputing all of that. they said that they will fight these charges, anderson. >> what happens next in the case? >> so in the state of new mexico, what happens next is
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what's called a first appearance. that can happen either in person,al he can baldwin could be summoned to new mexico. they might handle it as a video conference. we didn't hear or see him. this will be very interesting to watch. after the initial set of charges, we heard from numerous legal experts raising the main question we had. if there's an actor who was handed a gun and told this gun was empty. is he liable for whatever happens after that? now, prosecutors appeared to say yes. this grand jury said yes. that he should be indicted. we'll have to see what happens next. we did get a statement today from baldwin's attorney. a very short statement saying they looked forward to their day in court. >> thank you. coming up, in buffalo to watch the buffalo bills. he asked if we could send it. we said sure, at least as far as the parking lot. here's our cold weather playofo previeiew next.
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i think he's having a midlife crisis i'm not. you got us t-mobile home internet lite. after a week of streaming they knocked us down... ...to dial up speeds. like from the 90s. great times. all i can do say is that my life is pre-- i like watching the puddles gather rain. -hey, your mom and i procreated to that song. oh, ew! i think you've said enough. why don't we just switch to xfinity like everyone else? then you would know what year it was. i know what year it is.
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any die hard buffalo bills fans looking to earn $20 an hour should head to buffalo. they are hosting the chiefs. one of four nfl games this weekend. more heavy snow is forecast for the area. the bills are paying that $20 an hour to help clean up the mess so the show can go on. as you can see, a lot have already showed up. i'm cueing , i'm not a sports person in general but i'm learning. he's hanging out in the parking lot of high mark stadium for his beloved bills play. so i know you're emotionally invested in sunday's game. are you going to spend the next two days in the bills' parking lot shoveling? or getting pumped up for the game, as they say? >> look, anderson, where else
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would you rather be than right here right now. as you mentioned -- >> i'm actually in los angeles and quite happy to be here. it's loverly and quite warm. >> oh, come on! come join me in the cold here in buffalo. actually, orchard park, a suburb of buffalo. i got myself a shovel. i tried to get in there but there have already been hundreds, if not more than a thousand folks who have shown up to shovel. this is all ahead of the game on sunday. and i'll note as a weather aficionado, a snow hound that went to weather camp, the combination of snow and buffalo bills football, there is nothing that gets me more joyous. it's almost as if you are the make-a-wish foundation for skinny jews from the bronx. >> didn't you go to space camp also? or was it just weather camp? >> i visited space camp in huntsville, alabama. i've never been to space camp. maybe that's the next trip for me. we can all go together.
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>> so what's the over and under? i don't know if that's a term. what should we speck from the game this weekend? >> yes, they're playing the kansas city chiefs. that's a betting term. i will tell you that the bills are favored by 2.5 points over the kansas city chiefs, or as i call them the kansas city swifts. i will note the bill have already beaten the chiefs in kansas city when taylor swift showed up. so while i do enjoy taylor swift's music, as i know you do, we're both swifties at heart. i'm thinking she's probably crying at the end of sunday because that will mean my buffalo bills have won. this is the one time i'm rooting against taylor swift. i'm sorry, swifties, i have to do it. >> that's kind of harsh. i understand you ever some questions that i'm sort of dreading. >> i know, i know. yeah. so you know, last week, we did your favorite game which is
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figure out the match-ups, through the logos, and we had to do it again back by popular demand. we'll go through some of the games that are not the chiefs versus the bills. so let's start off with our first game. this is the first saturday game. here are the logos of the teams. can you guess them? one learned last week. let's see if you can guess these two. >> i know i learned the one on the left last week. and i should remember it. but i don't. i'm really not interested. and it's not the -- i don't know who it is. the fighting toros. i'm guessing those are the buffalo ravens. yes! yes! see, we're getting pumped up. the other team, of course -- very good. i'm rubbing off out. the houston texans against the baltimore ravens. let's move to number two featuring the favorite team of yours. >> those are the packers, the
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wisconsin packers? is that right? >> yes. green bay. >> okay. got it now. and san francisco 49ers. >> yes! yes! >> okay. >> last one for you. let's see if you can round it out. >> okay. the blue lions. we talked about before. the detroit lions. and -- >> yes! >> the fighting swashbuckling pirates? the tampa bay buccaneers? >> oh my god! we did it, anderson. it is a miracle! a miracle! you got it. you made me so proud. you're going to make-a-wish foundation numerous ways tonight. god bless you, anderson cooper. god bless you. >> are your gloves fraying? what's going on with your gloves? anyway. >> my gloves. i got these at home depot.
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>> oh, you have cash in your hands. >> thanks very much. stay warm. good luck to your bills. we'll be right back.
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