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clclosed capaptionings brou to you b by mesobookok.com tonight on 360, all a aboard on new hampshire, days before the governor is going to back. the d.a. willis who hired him and allegationless of an improper
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relationship between the two. and alec baldwin how he came to be charged again today. good evening thanks for joining us we begin with breaking news within the next hour or so, south carolina governor tim scott is expected to support the former president as the inevitable nominee. to that point, governor scott and his fellow republicans are helping. and to show how eagerly they've been falling in line earlier than in 2016. this was after trump victories in new hampshire, nevada and south carolina. this time around the endorsements have been coming earlier in some cases much earlier. most recently, senator cruz and rubio. senator scott gave his nod back
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in november. and tuberville who got on board a year before that. we'll have more on what that says about the former president and his party in a moment. but first, elena trayne where senator scott will give his expected endorsement. what do we know about this event tonight? >> reporter: yeah, well this is a huge pick up for donald trump, anderson. and in typical trump fashion they're trying to make this potential or this expected tim scott endorsement a moment. we saw the senator tease this endorsement earlier today. he tweeted a photo right before boarding the private plane that trump flies on. and flying with him to new hampshire for this event tonight. i'm told that during his remarks, trump will call the senator up to the stage and have him give remarks and praise the former president and call for four more more years of donald trump. but i think what's important is how this came together.
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trump and his campaign have really pursued tim scott for this endorsement ever since he dropped out of the presidential race last year. they were really hoping he would give his endorsement before south carolina. as trump and his team have watched nikki haley rise. they accelerated that time line as just another way to try to under cut his momentum here. >> and it's certainly important to get the endorsement from scott. but how will this impact his endorsement in south carolina. >> while she was governor she was the one who actually appointed tim scott to the senate in 2012. we did hear her respond to this. she issued a statement to c, in n today where she said, quote, it's interesting that trump is aligning to all the governors when he claimed he was going to
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drain the swamp. but the fellows are going to do what the fellows are going to do. she really said this to take a shot at don donald trump. saying he's not the outsider he claims to be, but just part of the boys club. we also heard of nuno he said to reporters today. quote if anyone scared about tim scott he would still be running for president. but just to answer your part to the second question anderson, this endorsement is important because it shows how donald trump will be well. not only is it nikki haley's state. but it shows that this could end the primary season and try to lock up the gop nomination months before the november election. >> the way the republicans are
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falling in line. joining us is former political consultant stevens. also with us van jones. stewart, how big of a move is this for the rump campaign. the scott endorsement and how big a blow is it to nikki haley? >> look, i think endorsements generally don't matter much. but when it's someone you appointed and it's the other senator from your home state i think it does matter. likewise, i think you always have to flip these things. would it be really good for nikki haley if tim scott would be on stage endorsing her tonight? yeah, that would be pretty good. this is just part of the complete collapse of the republican party in my view. these senators who a lot of them issue very strong statements after january 6th, and yet now they're falling in line. while at the same time, a new
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york court has found donald trump liable of rape. it's just inconceivable to me this has happened to the republican party. the reason donald trump is winning is because he is giving republicans what they want. nobody is making anybody vote for donald trump. and he's running away with this probably unlike anything in modern history. he's really performing like an incumbent president. >> you did point out it was a new york court sexual abuse. why did senator scott choose donald trump over nikki haley. >> a year ago, marco rubio was running. it was tim scott, marco rubio and nikki haley. and you saw this picture, it
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was an african-american, a hispanic and asian-american. and you were thinking, is this the new face of the party. that would be something crazy twilight zone episode. this republican party is moving in the right direction and here you are a year later. how can a tim scott who represents decency, who represents civility throw nikki haley under the bus in this way to stand next to donald trump. there's something really bad happening in that party and it's distressing. >> last year when nikki haley was preparing her campaign. you read a new york op-ed. it said, her rise and fall only highlights what many of us already knew. mr. trump didn't change the republican party, he revealed
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it mrs. haley strives to win at any cost. a strive to ruthless it has transformed the gop into an autocratic movement. i wonder what you make of her and trump going at each other in recent days. i remember the stuff nikki haley was saying when president trump was first running or when then candidate trump was running back in 2016. she was incredibly, incredibly tough on him. just categorically, she was aligned him with the kkk. >> yeah, just think if she could have followed through. i did not expect him to overthrow the government of the united states and refuse not to accept a very close election. it is true, the republican party is going in the wrong
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direction. instead, that's why people say that trump has revered the republican party. nikki haley said trump is everything i taught my kids not to be. and now she's going to endorse him. the running this campaign, you could be given no greater gift in a campaign to run against somebody who has 96 indictments and they won't even bring it up on states. what a better way to win, my opponent has 91 counts. it's just absolutely. >> there's a problem, unimaginable. difficult to imagine. and it's playing out. >> how much of this tim scott endorsement do you think is about him, you know maybe wanting to get re reelected as
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a senator and needs the support of all the folks who trump has the support by. how much of him is wanting to be a vice president. >> it sounds like you're saying, he might be some what political here. yes. i would say the answer to your question is yes. it has to do with both. look, to get him his due, donald trump right now looks like a run away train. and to try to stand in front of a run away train may not be advisable by your political handlers and directors. i imagine he would want to be considered for a vice president. tim scott also could just not say nothing. you're literally in a situation, let's not forget where donald trump is using her foreign founding name. saying that you know she can't run for president because her parents weren't born here. the same kind of crap he pulled
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with obama. this is really bad stuff. this is not good stuff. the good thing about tim scott is he stood up against donald trump. this is not the time while donald trump is pulling out all the old nasty race cards to stand next to him today. stand next to him tomorrow if you wanted to. it's very surprising to see tim scott do this because who he is, is a decent man, decent human being. what he stands for is that. today is a weird moment for tim scott i think. >> van jones, stephen stewart, thank you. someone who says they will not be getting on the trump train any time soon. someone who has been pleading with republicans to break with former president. congressman kinsey. are you surprised tim scott is
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endorsing trump and doing it now? >> yeah, i mean i was shaking my head the whole time, van and stewart were talking in agreement. you know i never expected this from tim. i know him as vahn said as a decent man as someone who's concerned about character. but he chose to put himself and his political career over his character. as so many other people have. nikki haley appointed tim scott to the senate. she made him a u.s. senator where he could then become a national figure and then launch his campaign for president that failed. and he could have waited till after new hampshire. at least give it new hampshire. but there's something that's going on in people's soul where it's like, as the bible says what is it to gain the whole world but lose your soul.
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donald trump has done a masterful job of making people believe they can't stand against him and they won't. >> how is it to have him as part of the team of the former president. >> it's probably strong arm tactics it's saying, do you want to get reelected when you're up. i don't know when tim is up. do you want to be considered for vice president. i definitely think tim scott may be on trump's short list for president. a lot of it is just in his mind saying, i don't want to stand in front of the train. i want to have a political future. i've been in these positions, there's sometimes i should have taken on the president and i didn't. there's times i did and i knew what the cost was. because you recognize like i'm going to be out of the game if i take this too much. because he's convinced his base, donald trump is a masterful victim. he's one of the weakest men you will ever meet. he's actually someone that is scared of his own shadow and frankly scared of everybody. but he puts up a really good
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front that he's not. and he puts up what appears to be a tough front and it convinces tim scott to do this been new hampshire. donald trump has been doing i'll objectively say a good job of showing momentum and it's actually pretty disheartening. >> being donald trump's vice president is off the table. given, i mean did you think she just realized she's no longer in the running for that? >> i don't know. she should have said this a long time ago, by the way. she's been asked this question a lot of times before. i guarantee you if donald trump call hearse and -- call her and say, do you want to be vice president she would do it. but i think she's here before new hampshire taking on him more. we really need to reverse the clock back to august or
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whenever the first debate was. that's when the people running for president needed to be taking on donald trump not three days out from new hampshire. they needed to be doing it since then. i doubt that donald trump will ask her to be vice president but if he did, she would say yes. d.a. willis tonight facing a new investigation hours after court records show that her lead prosecutor paid for her out of state travel with him. also, the former president's newest efforts to get civil damages case against him thrown out. his latest mistrial motion ahead.
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more breaking news tonight, major case against the former president that's turning into major mess. the former commissioner launched a case that willis misused funds and accepted gifts from the prosecutor she hired to prosecute the case. she and d.a. willis are already facing allegations of having inappropriate relationship. that wade paid for willis to travel with him on out of state
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trips. so, what did you learn from the court filing in the special prosecutors divorce case. >> this divorce case is really becoming juicy because it's giving us insight into the district attorney fawny willis. that's why it's of interest. jocelyn wade who said she was going to be divorcing nathan wade the top prosecutor in georgia, he also agreed to this. now wade is accusing nathan wade of having essentially a relationship with fawmy willis, the d.a. and she says she wants to know in more information from fawny willis such as, this information about trips that they may have taken that nathan wade would have been paying for. what he is making from the district attorney's office. because that's all relevant to the divorce. her argument is that, they need to divide assets and she doesn't know how much money he has that he's making and so she
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wants information. she wants to even depose district attorney fawny willis as soon as next week. >> has the da made any comment. >> she stepped up in court and says i would like to not be deposed this week. there's nothing that i have that is part of this divorce that has been going on for years. and says wade is using the legal process to harass and embarrass willis. nathan wade is the top prosecutor on the trump case with all these other defendants. there's a problem that's bubbling up in that case that's drawing attention and d.a. willis also says in her filing that she is wondering if jocelyn wade might be working with some of these criminal defendants or at least one of
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them who's tried to drag this proceeding into the criminal case around election interference. and see if there's some sort of conspiracy there between them where they're trying to smear her. >> commissioners launched an inquiry into the matter. where does that stand? >> yeah,s that , -- that is the news we just learned of today. it's a republican commissioner in fulton county who's serving on an audit board. she's the chair of the audit board and he's rejected information from willis. the question is there a misuse of county funds here. now, we don't know what he'll be able to get out of that. it's unclear at this time if he's really going to have the power to dig into this at least as much as the divorce proceedings. could dig into this but at the end of the day anderson, we should be watching what happens in the divorce proceeding as well as what happens in court in this election interference case. there's set to be a hearing in
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the middle of february about this. if there are any specific ethical issues or any conflicts of interest that really should be weighing in on that. and we just don't know yet if there is manager that could affect d.a. willis from prosecuting this case and keeping wade from working on it. what do you make of these allegations? >> there's some real problems here for the d. a. but i think it's also very important to differentiate. what matters and what doesn't matter. if they're having a romantic relationship or not. >> there's no legal ramification. there's no legal ramification if they were having. >> well, so right. this gets into the potential conflict of interest and the money where there could be an
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issue. so first of all there's a genuine question about mr. wade's qualifications here. he's been a lawyer for a long time. his primary area of legal work is traffic and criminal. and now he's working with the d. a. if you look at the amount of money that's been paid to these lawyers, one of them has made $73,000. one has made $90,000 and mr. wade has been paid 650 plus thousand dollars. that's an enormous discrepancy. anderson if some of that money is making its way back to the d.a., whether through trips, or hotel, or other entertainment or arrangements, then you have a problem with a conflict of interest. >> could to legal sanctions
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against her or the lead prosecutor. what would be the ramifications if she had to leave the case? does that matter in terms of the case moving forward? against the former president. >> i do not think this is going to be a basis to dismiss the charges against donald trump or any of the other defendants in this case. it does not have to do with the merits of don donald trump or the defendants. if there's a conflict of interest yes the d.a. could be disqualified from this case for conflict of interest. then there's the next case, does that mean her whole office is disqualified, meaning it has to move to a neighboring da 's officer. then what does it do to the confidence. if there's problems with money like this you can bet it's going to under mine public confidence. >> willis has already tried to squash a subpoena calling her to testify next week in this
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divorce case accusing of his estranged wife. if she has nothing to hide why not be deposed. >> i think the d.a. is far out of line here. she receives a subpoena in a divorce case. a subpoena is not an accusation. a subpoena says you're a witness that has relevant information. clearly she has information about mr. wade, about his financing and about what his current relationships are. she clearly has relevant information. i think it's improper for her to say you're trying to interfere with this criminal case. that's the d.a. who's using the criminal case as a shield. i think she's wrong there. >> and it isn't the first time willis has faced questions about personal actions. for the fake electors game
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because he held a fundraiser for his eventual opponent. her just a minute has been called into question before. >> yeah, and i think fairly anderson. the incident you're referring to the d.a. hosted a fundraiser for the political opponent of a person who she subpoenaed and a judge, a different judge who was overseeing disqualified fawny willis from the case. this was a judge that had been very supportive of willis. and he said on the record, what were you thinking. he said it's very poor optics. i think it's poor judgment to question the judge. she holds an enormously powerful position. and i think she needs to hold herself to a higher level of professional ethics and responsibility. she's causing problems for herself and potentially for this case. >> it's extraordinary. while the former president
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has turned court appearances. a closer look at t the foundata of t this currenent trial, t th nenext. to duckduckgo on all your devie
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trump is likely to appear in court monday which will be the third time he has attended the trial. we have mentioned he does not have to appear but it has become part of his. sometimes getting lost in this trial is the jury decision last year that under pins the current trial that donald j. trump was guilty of sexual abuse. >> reporter: advice columnist says she was leaving borgdorf when she ran into donald trump. >> he said come advise me. i want to buy a president. i said oh, for who. he said for a girl. so i was enchanted. >> reporter: carroll says they
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went to the lingerie department . she accompanied donald trump into a dressing room. she said as soon as she was in there, trump pinned her to a wall and pulled down her. carroll says she fled the store and largely kept the encounter secret. it wasn't until june 19th when she shared the public publicly. new york magazine ran an an excerpt from her book. >> this is a woman who has also accused other men of things as you know. it is a totally false accusation. >> reporter: carroll first sued
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trump in 2019 for defamation. but for years he successfully tied the case up in litigation. under new york state's adult survivors act she filed a second lawsuit against trump this time for battery and defamation. that case went to trial last year. trump didn't appear in court but his video deposition was played before the jury where he denied raping carroll. >> she said that i did something to her that never took place. that was no anything. i know nothing about this nut job. >> reporter: he even mistook carroll as his wife. >> which woman are you pointing to? >> here. >> he defended the infamous access hollywood tape where trump was heard making comments about women. >> fully litigated. this is old news. you know what i said, locker
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room talk. that was locker room talk. >> reporter: the jury found that trump did sexually abuse carroll and defamed her. trump repeated his statements. >> i swear, i've never done that and i swear to, i have no idea who the hell? she's a whack job. >> reporter: carroll updated her lawsuit now claiming so million dollars for trump's repeated verbal attacks and denials. meanwhile, former president trump is squeezing in appearances. he may testify next week. >> hello new hampshire. >> cara scanell. >> reporter: joined now by conservative attorney george conway. can you just describe our jurors how you met e. jean carroll and what role you played in defending her against the president. >> i met her about a week or
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two after the report of her story came out and the book came out and the excerpt in the new york magazine came out. i had written a piece in the washington post talking about how, how if anyone believed anita brodrick who made the claims against bill clinton, that donald trump trumped during the 2016 campaign. then they should really believe jean carroll as well because she had witnesses she told about the event right after it happened. it was pretty compelling. i ran into carroll just by happenstance a few days after that and she approached me and thanked me. she said many people are saying i should sue, do you think i have a claim. i said yes. he's lying about you and that's a defamation.
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that's defamation claim. and then about 10 second later. i know precisely the lawyer who should be handling this. an excellent lawyer who had become a friend of mine robby capland who has since that day before representing her. that's how i got to know jean carroll. that's how she met her lawyer. and the rest is, what we have now. >> as you know, the former president's attorney questioned carroll this week about your association with you. and asked if you planted the seed that she should sue him. >> it came out in the first trial. e. jean's lawyers came out so there's no secret there. nothing to hide there. but it's also completely irrelevant. for some reason, trump and his counsel seem obsessed with that fact. and they, they brought it up consistently again and again in the first trial to the point where the judge had to tell them to stop. and then, they did it, they're
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doing it again this week. i'm kind of flattered by it but it's just kind of bizarre frankly. >> what do you make of how trump has handled this phase of the case. >> look, i think that this whole case is something of a microcosm of his frankly his mental state. his tendency to lie, and lie again. his tendency to attack. i mean, you know he lied about, he lied about the fact that he never met her when there was a photograph that came out of her with him in 2019. in the 1990s. he then lies about what happened. he then lies about, he says she's not his type. he said that in 2019. and it turns out then he confuses her as you saw, as
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that excerpt for his former wife. and he continuously after he defamed her, and after a lawyer found that he raped her. he's then continuously assert that it didn't happen again and again and he's doing it outside the courtroom. it's crazy. inside the courtroom his lawyers are trying to minimize what he did. and minimize what happened and yet, he's, he's repeating the lies over and over again and repeating the defamation which completely defeats what the lawyer is trying to do inside the courthouse. it's crazy. >> george. thank you. alec baldwin charged for a second time. we'll tell youou why a and what
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case we're going to go to josh campbell. what more do we know about this indictment? >> anderson, if this sounds familiar to viewers is because it is. we've seen this before. this now the second round of charges we've seen against alec baldwin. he was previously indicted in january of 2023. a very similar involuntary manslaughter charges. those charges were dropped because prosecutors at the time said there was anish sure with a piece of evidence. a law enforcement source told me that evidence was the gun itself that was used in that shooting. there were questions about whether it had been modified which raised questions about its reliability as a piece of evidence. interestingly, they found that gun could not have fired without someone pulling the trigger. alec baldwin has long proclaimed his innocence says he did not pull the trigger.
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it's involuntary manslaughter, negligent use of a firearm. all of that getting to negligence. there's a question about how a live round of ammunition got on the set in the first place. >> you previously interviewed the district attorney about the culture on the set. >> we interviewed her after that indictment. she said there was a culture of negligence. we had been reporting here on cnn on this story about accidental discharges on the set. members of the set who described feeling unsafe in and around the making of this movie. i should mention the producers of the move movie to include baldwin have denied all of that. what they found as part of this investigation and what led them at the time to file charges. >> there was such a lack of safety and safety standards on
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that set that there were live rounds onset. they were mixed in with regular dummy rounds. nobody was checking those, or at least they were not checking them consistently. they somehow got loaded into a gun. they got handed to baldwin. he didn't check what he had to do to make sure he was safe or anyone around her was safe. then he pointed the gun at helena hudgens and he pulled the trigger. >> they said they will fight the charges, anderson. >> what happens next in the case. >> in the state of new mexico what happens next is the first appearance that could happen either in person. alec baldwin could be summoned from new york. they might handle that by video conference. all of this was handled by his attorneys the last time. after that initial set of charges we heard from numerous
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legal experts in this case. if there's an actor who was handed a gun and told this gun is empty is he liable for whatever happens after that. now prosecutors appear to say yes, this grand jury said yes. that he should be indicted but of course we'll have to wait and see what happens next. we did get a statement in today from baldwin's attorney very short statement saying they look forward to their day in court, anderson. >> all right, thanks so much. appreciate it josh. >> hinton is in buffalo to watch his beloved wills to play in this weekend's game. he asked if we could send him. we said susure, atat least as s as thehe p parking lotot. he hasas our cold d weather prp nenext. to duckduckgo on all your devie
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you are emotionally invested in the beginning, will you spend the next two days in the bills les shockley are getting pumped up for the game as they say? >> reporter: look, anderson, where else would you rather be than right here, right now. as you mentioned-- >> i'm actually in los angeles and quite happy here, because it is lovely and >> oh, come on, anderson, come join me in the cold here in buffalo. actually orchard park itself, i got myself a shovel, i tried to get in there, but there have already been hundreds, if not thousand folks who have should appear to try and shovel, of course this is all ahead of the game on sunday. and i will also note as a weather aficionado, ace know how to went to whether camp, combination of snow and buffalo bills football there is nothing that gives me more joyous it is almost as if you are the make-a- wish foundation for skinny tooth from the bronx anderson. >> did you go to space camp also? where was it just whether camp?
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>> i visited space camp in huntsville, alabama, but i've never been to space camp, but maybe that is the next trip for me. we can all go to huntsville alabama together. >> what is the over and under? what should we expect from the game this weekend? >> yes, so they are playing the kansas city chiefs. that is a betting term. i will tell you that the bills are favored by two and half points over the kansas city chiefs or, as i call them to kansas city swifts. of course, taylor swift is dating travis kelsey, the star tight end i will note that the bills will be in kansas city when taylor swift shows up. so, while i do enjoy taylor swift's music, as i know you do, we are both swifties at heart. she is probably crying at the end of sunday, because that will be my buffalo bills. so, this is the one time i am rooting against taylor swift, i'm sorry swifties i have got to do it. >> well, that is kind of harsh.
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i understand you have some questions for me? >> last week we did your favorite game, which is figure out the matchups through the logos and of course we had to do it again, back by popular demand, so we will go through some of the games that are not the chiefs versus the bills. so let's start off with our first game, the first saturday game. here are the logos of the teams, let's see if you can get these two. >> well i know i learned the one in the left last week. and i should remember it, but i don't. because i am really not interested. and it is not the-- i don't know who it is. it was the patriotic toros. >> the patriotic? >> i'm guessing the baltimore ravens. >> yes! yes! >> the other team is, of course very good.
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i am rubbing off on you it is the houston texans against the baltimore ravens. let's move onto matchup number two featuring a favorite team of yours. >> those are the packers. wisconsin packers right? >> yes. >> why is it a liturgy? >> green bay packers. >> okay, and separates the 49ers? >> yes! yes! okay. last one for you, anderson, let's see if you can rounded out. >> okay. the-- the blue liens we knew, we talked about before. oh, it is the detroit lions, and-- >> yes! >> the fighting swashbuckling pirates. the tampa bay buccaneers. >> oh my god we did it anderson! it is a miracle. a miracle. you have got it. you have made me so proud.
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we've got a make-a-wish foundation numerous ways tonight. god bless you, anderson cooper, god bless you. >> are your gloves praying? what's going on with your gloves? okay anyway-- >> i picked up the shuttle at home. >> all right, thanks very much. good luck to your bills. we will be right back.
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