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good morning, so glad you are with us. the nation's first presidential primary, it is here. we are live at a diner in manchester, new hampshire. today it is likely now or never for republicans trying to topple donald trump as nikki haley works to pull off a strong finish in the state, her last best chance. we're just one hour away from the first big round of polls opening, first ballots have already been cast just after midnight in the tiny but important town of dixville notch. haley won all six votes there. in her final sprint across the state, nikki haley has been pushing back on the naysayers. >> america doesn't do
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coronations. we believe in choices. we believe in democracy. and we believe in freedom. let's show the country what we can do. >> in the final hours before the primary, voters actually head to the polls, trump has been raking in endorsements from republicans on capitol hill both the house and senate gop campaign chairs have called for the party to unite behind trump the same day he delivered the ultimate show of force by bringing his former opponents up on stage for his last rally before voters vote. >> if you want four more years of donald trump, let me hear you scream! if you want the race to be over tomorrow, let me hear you scream! >> during that rally trump painted nikki haley has an establishment candidate who would lose head to head against president biden. >> so important, most important vote you are ever going to take or make.
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you can claire that the republican party is never going to go back to those days of weak establishment candidates. so if you want a losing candidate who puts america last, vote for nikki haley. >> let's start with omar jimenez, he is at a polling location. so first six votes already cast, but the majority start to come in in less than an hour. what are you hearing this morning? >> reporter: well, we've been hearing from poll workers here setting up this particular spot. it opens in about an hour here, 6:00 a.m. eastern. the day is finally here. my team and i have been here 12 of the last 14 days talking to voters, rain, shine and a lot of snow at this point. and people are ready to cast their ballots and let's their voices be heard. as someone joked, they are ready for the ads and some of the mailers to stop which of course they have been getting a lot of over the past months really. for nikki haley, the question
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is, she got her two person race, but has she done enough to actually challenge the former president here. well, today voters get to decide. >> the new hampshire primary is officially under way with one lone republican rival remaining. against donald trump. >> a lot on the line here. >> reporter: nikki haley making her final pitch to vote, hoping to stop trump's march to the republican nomination. >> will you marry me? >> are you going to vote for me? >> reporter: overnight the first primary ballots were cast in dixville notch, providing a very early glimmer of hope for haley who picked up all six votes in the small new hampshire town. trump for his part is trying to rally and consolidate republican
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support holding his final campaign rally in the granite state flanked by former republican candidates offering their endorsement. including former republican candidate and senator tim scott. who just announced his engagement. >> biggest story out there, he is engaged to be married. we never thought this was going to happen. what's going on? >> reporter: trump did target haley during his rally. >> the people behind nikki haley are pro amnesty, pro china, pro open border, pro war, pro deep state and pro biden. >> reporter: and haley is trying to make the case that both trump and biden are too old to effectively serve four more years. >> this really is an option. do you want more of the same? >> no, we want nikki! >> or do you want go forward? >> reporter: and saying she feels trump has mentally declined. >> the more you age, it just does -- you have decline. >> reporter: the democrats are
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also heading to the polls today. congressman dean phillips has launched a long shot campaign against president biden. phillips is hoping the fact biden won't appear on the ballot and is relying on write-in support could help his chances. >> the sad truth is, i respect the man, but joe biden is not able to beat donald trump in the next election. >> reporter: new hampshire attorney general also investigating a fake robocall that appears to use an achlts i voice resembling biden's urging people to stay hole. in important you save your vote for the november election. votesing this tuesday only enables republicans in their quest to elect donald trump again. >> reporter: it is unclear who is behind the call. biden's campaign responded writing spreading disinformation to suppress voting and deliberately undermine free and fair elections will not stand. and that state level investigation is ongoing. this polling site as i mentioned here in manchester opens up in
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about an hour. we'll start to see again people here in new hampshire casting their votes. i'm hoping to talk to a lot of them because i'm always curious when exactly it was that they made up their minds, people in the past i've talked to sometimes make up their minds literally while waiting in line. so excited for that a little later this morning. but for now, we're just getting ready. >> it is one of the things that makes new hampshire so exciting, not only being the first, but also the fact that there are a lot of undeclareds. we talked to one yesterday who said that they would decide between breakfast yesterday and breakfast this morning. and a critical day across the country as nikki haley faces what could be her last real chance to pull off a major upset and reset a race. right now it feels like a foregone conclusion. so let's take a look at what the haley campaign has been keying on in the granite state. and they have been keying on the granite state. you look at the map, only one
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township filled in. dixville notch. nikki haley getting 100% of the votes, six votes. how indicative is this? it is not. at all. not taking anything away from the vehicle voters who voted here. but they split back in 2016. in the presidential race, all five went for joe biden. you can pull back into last week, iowa and the dominant performance by donald trump in the state, nikki haley winning only one of the 99 counties and just by one vote, a county she was supposed to run up big numbers with. the reason why? her strength is always considered suburban voters, the higher income voters. donald trump won every county but one that falls into that category for cnn. but iowa was never viewed as a strong suit for nikki haley. it is more conservative bent particularly on social issues
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with a major burst of evangelical voteses that don't usually align with somebody like nikki haley. and that of course is where new hampshire comes in. when you look at this state right now, you put away dixville notch for a moment, no offense to my friends in dixville notch, but this is a state that has hire capacity when it comes to educated voters, hire income voters, and more than that, it has moderate voters. if you look at where the cnn polling has been the last couple of weeks, when it comes to ideology, in new hampshire, donald trump on moderate voters only gets 22%. nikki haley 71%. complete lynn inadvertents when it comes to conservative voters. haley campaign think there are more moderate voters so it is an opportunity. education levels is also a key point. haley campaign believes they would trend towards nikki haley. that appears to be born out. donald trump dominating individuals with no college degree, 55%. nikki haley at 50%. there are significantly more
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college educated voters in the state of new hampshire than iowa. so nikki haley should have a pathway here. but the real question is whether or not this number breaks big her way. as poppy was noting, undeclared voters are critical. whether or not undeclared who can go it in and vote whichever side they want decide to lean heavily towards nikki haley. remember joe biden won this state handily in 2020. if they start to move heavy towards nikki haley, then perhaps you have a race. but right now the polling hasn't picked that up. >> and we'll hear from the folks who are in that category of undeclared. kasie, nikki haley wanted this, a two person race. and she got it. now what? >> for a year we've been waiting for this to happen. whether it was behind the scenes, over beers with
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republican political consultants, on television sets, the idea was that we can get one person to stand up against donald trump in the republican primary, then they will be able to take him on. and this is finally the test of that. and at this hour, it is not necessarily looking great for not just nikki haley, but all those forces out there, and there are many who don't want to see donald trump win the republican nomination. but turns out there doesn't seem to be enough of them in the republican party, maybe ever, definitely anymore. but let's talk about dixville notch for a second. i love this place. but i think phil is right, it is not necessarily predictive, but it gives us a little encapsulation of what the story is in new hampshire. if you look back to that 2016 primary, phil showed us the republicans. but there were also four democrats in the town who voted for bernie sanders. remember, undeclared voters can pull ballots in either primary. and it shows you that the dixville notch wanted to vote in the republican primary. i don't know if they were
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republicans or undeclared voters who cast the six votes, but -- it is beautiful up there, but it is kind of a drive. but if they were the undeclared voters and they polled in the republican primary, that is what nikki haley is counting on. if she puts in a stronger performance than we expected, it will be because new hampshire voters who just absolutely relish their role in this process decided they wanted to play. >> governor sununu who endorsed nikki haley told anderson last night she doesn't have to win here. what is the path if she doesn't win here? >> that is a classic what we call setting of expectations here in politics. and they have moved. they have gone from the expectation being that she's got to win here to saying she doesn't have to win here. the narrative is that she is on track to lose and that donald trump almost has it locked up. so to the extent that anything can bust through that narrative, it is not the worst place to be going into tonight if you are
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the nikki haley campaign. i think the challenge is that it only gets harder from here, so if she can't win in new hampshire, they have to look at south carolina to say this is where she can win. >> and so if successful, her campaign gains a lot of momentum and critically time, longevity. the results she needs when all the votes are counted, next. and today mark as first to the biden/harris re-election campaign. more from new hampshire live ahead.
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when it comes to republicans, we're tired of losing. we're tired of losing. we lost in '18 and '20. we're going to get the big red wave in '22.
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hey donald trump, where the f is the red wave. give me a break. >> where the f is the red wave. welcome back. i'm kasie hunt in manchester where the nation's first presidential primary is already under way. the tiny northern community of dixville notch kicked it off. they always vote at midnight. they have been doing it for more than 60 years. this time around, august six, get that, six of them cast their ballots for nikki haley. joining me here, jess bidgood and also sophia cai. thank you for joining us at this diner. this is a storied spot. jess, you've been up here since the iowa caucus. basically obviously the globe is right near by. as we head into these final days, i mean, chris sununu is making the argument that so many anti-trump republicans make all the time that this guy is going to lose republicans elections,
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but at the same time he is on a glide path here. what chance does nikki haley have to make a dent in that path? >> thank you so much for having us. at the "boston globe," we've been doing this daily tracking poll and this morning shows trump's lead widening over nikki haley. he has 60% support today to her 38%. that tells me that governor desantis of florida dropping out earlier this week is helping trump. and making it all the harder for haley to try to slow his momentum. but if she's going to do it, it will happen here in new hampshire. this is really her last best chance to slow him down. >> sophia, you have been on the road with nikki haley in particular. and we've sort of documented how she's been going after trump more aggressively in this week since the iowa caucuses. and you've also been writing about the other ways in which she's focusing her candidacy in the final hours.
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what are you noticing? >> yeah, so she's leaning into her gender. this is something that she hasn't necessarily overtly mentioned, but she's been saying the fellas. this is a phrase that she uses. right? the fellas. the fellas is what they do when they ask her about desantis and the tim skocott endorsement, sh says the fellas will do what the fellas do. so it is one of the contrasts that a she's making when not much else is working. so for republican voters who may not be voting purely because she's a woman, you know, they notice that she sounds different. she looks different. she has a different style. and i think this is one of the ways that she's trying to say we need someone new. >> and is about the independent voters 1234.
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>> and they recognize and her campaign recognizes that if she were to win, it would mean setting a real precedent here. the songs she plays, they put out a woman for president, these are the subtle ways that she not doing it to be politics, but it really is one of the ways that we've seen. and a bit different in the past couple days. >> and we know especially college educated suburban women are a massive weakness for donald trump and one that she is trying to sounds like based on your reporting trying to exploit. the other thing, jess, that i think that we can really get at here and phil did a little bit of this at the magic wall, but you can really feel the difference between the types of voters who go for donald trump versus the people that will back nikki haley when you go to their events. covering nikki haley events to me feels like kind of the old country club republican party. her first event after the iowa caucuses was at this very high
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end resort. and the culture at dixville notch as well. if you go to the trump rally, they are these raucous affairs. they are more blue collar. >> it is a fascinating divide. you go to a trump rally and he has fans. people are deeply, deeply devoted to him. they have been for years. they love him. for some of his supporters, it be bor ders on almost at the religious. at haley events, they are more circu circumspect, they are thinking less about haley than about trump and how to stop him. and they have come to see haley as kind of a vessel to do that. in many cases as we've talked about, they are incident voters. they are not part of the base.
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might be they voted for trump in 2016 and they are trying to figure out how to move forward. and we're seeing haley try to appeal to those voters by seeking to link biden and trump as figments of the past and herself as someone who is younger, someone who has more energy and who wants to move the party and the country forward. >> as much as i love new hampshire, you write the new hampshire primary is a circus but no one is having any fun. i think that encapsulates how much of a role donald trump is on. thank you both for being up early with us. phil, back to you in new york. >> i dispute the idea no one is having any fun. i had fun in my one day back on the campaign trail. early framework for a possible deal that could lead to the longest ceasefire in gaza since the war started. more next.
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21 israeli soldiers were killed on monday. idf says a tank was hit by a rocket propelled grenade and an explosion happened in two buildings causing them to collapse. so that is the deadliest since the beginning of the war. and there is now an initiative to offer hamas a two month cease fire in exchange for release of all the hostages still being held. this is according to an israeli official familiar. they call it far from being a proposal. more than 25,000 people already killed. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is also facing
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increased pressure at home and around the world to secure the release of those israeli hostages. and to ease the suffering of the civilians. netanyahu has created a controversy after doubling down on comments that he made that israel must maintain security control for the palestinian territories. he posted on x over the weekend, "i will not compromise on full israeli security control over all the territory west of the jordan. and this is contrary to palestinian state." let's bring in a former israeli hostage negotiator, and thank you for being with me. i was very surprised to read this reporting that came first from axios and then i just told you cnn is reporting on this. do you think that this could actually happen, israel would agree to a two month pause in fighting to bring all of the hostages that are being held, about 130 of them, home? because this would also include
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an unset number of palestinian prisoners to be leareleased fro israel. >> i think israel would jump at the opportunity if this was really accepted by hamas because the hamas demand is quite a lot more. a mas hamas is demanding full end to the war and complete withdrawal from gaza and all for all exchange. meaning all prisoners in exchange for all the hostages. that is something israel is not willing do and israel finally put an alternative on the table which is less than what hamas is demanding. >> so what you are saying is an all for all is off the table for israel. what is on the table, what proportion of the prisoners do you think that israel would do to get their people home? >> i don't think the issue is the number of the palestinian
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prisoners. one is that israels arrest palestinians every day and my estimation there are probably more than 10,000 palestinian prisoners today with half of them being arrested since the beginning of the war october 7. the issue for hamas now is that they are not willing to accept a temporary ceasefire. hamas wants a full end to the war and israeli withdrawal from gaza. i've learned from 17 years of negotiating with hamas that they say what they mean and they mean what they say. and their willingness to compromise is on the margins of their demands and not on the demands themselves. >> sounds like you do not think that this is going to be fruitful. is that right? >> i think what might be possible is an interim deal where hamas might be willing to negotiate the lease of those who were described as civilians, the elderly, the sick, the wounded, and there are about 19 young women who are being held who it
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is believed that are being sexually abused. i don't know if hamas would be willing to release them. but what we know from the 136 hostages, there are probably less than 100 alive and every day that they are still in captivity, there is a risk of more bombing. >> and alex marquardt has fascinating reporting from overnight that i want your take on. his reporting is that israel has proposed that hamas' senior leaders could leave gaza as part of a broader cease fire deal. of course they failed to capture -- kill any of hamas' top, top leaders. this would include yahya sinwar. do you see that happening? >> no, not at all. this is a nonstarter. this is a leadership which is dedicated to the fight and their religious tenants preclude them
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from ever running away or surrendering. they will go down fighting. they believe that it is a religious commandment that they become martyrs for palestinian, for islam, for al-quds, for jerusalem. this is not a situation that we had in 1982 where athe leaders escaped in an agreement with israeli. this is a different nature of warfare and different ideological pace of the people who are engaged in the fighting. >> thank you very much for being with us. and we now know the names of the two u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s who died off the coast of somalia. first class christopher chambers and also operator second class nathan ingram lost their lives at sea while attempting to seize iranian weapons being shipped to yemen. one fell into the water due to 8
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foot swells, the second jumped in after him according to protocol. and navy captain says the loss is devastating and that they were exceptional warriors, cherished teammates and dear friends to many. president biden and vice president harris hitting the trail together today launching what could be the defining issue of their campaign. the fight for ababortion rigigh. thatat is next..
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tomorrow we're going to win new hampshire and then we'll defeat crooked joe biden and we'll make america great again. >> today joe biden and kamala harris head to virginia as they aim to pitch abortion rights as a central issue in their re-election campaign. the event is taking place the day after the anniversary of the
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roe v. wade decision when the supreme court overturned in 2022. in an exclusive interview, the vice president seized on that anniversary and went after donald trump for his role in nonl naturing three justices key to striking down the landmark ruling. >> fast forward to just recently, says he is proud of what he did. and let's be clear, so by inference, he is proud that women have baeen deprived of fundamental decisions about their own body, that doctors are being penalized and criminalized for providing health care. proud that women are silently suffering because they don't have access to the health care they need. so let's understand that the stakes are so very high. >> joining me now to discuss, jessica dean, errol lewis, jeff
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duncan and bakari sellers. i thought that was really interesting because of how donald trump has tried' to have it both ways over the court of the last several months. i'm against six week abortion ban, but proud of the three justices that i appointed. democrats makes their heads explode thinking that he can kind of get away with walking that line or balance. but kamala harris is saying absolutely not. >> he donald trump can walk that line in the republican primary phase by letting people know, look, i got you your abortion ban, i made good on that, i'm the only president who showed up at your rally on the mall. and i want full credit for that and all of your votes by the way. and at the same time, he is practical, he is looking ahead to november, he is basically thinking like a general election candidate and has already said these abortion bans, these six week ban, it will be terrible. it has already been hard for us politically and the republican party needs to move away from that. now, how that happens rhetorically, politically, what
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it will look like on the campaign trail, what you just saw is the democrats saying we won't give you that space. you won't get one inch of grace when it comes to that. you will have to own all of what you did in 2022, you will have to own all of the nominations. and you will have to explain it to the republicans and the suburban women and the young voters and all the parts of the electorate that will react hard against where trump wants to go. i don't think that he will be able to escape that. >> and events this week coinciding with the nationwide ad buy that is reminiscent of what andy beshear did in his race which he won talking about reproductive rights. does it have the reach nationwide? >> we've seen it over and over again since 2022 and i'm thinking back to the pennsylvania senate race in the midterms right after roe v. wade ways overturned. and i was talking to people in those swing counties around philadelphia. and you are talking about the
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women, suburban women, the independents that when it all comes down to it, that trump or biden will need to win these key states when it comes to a general election. i was struck by how -- i'm always like, you know, you are always receiptticent to say thi issue will do it. but in that state, it made a giant difference. more than i was even anticipating. what i'm interested to see, and i've been talking to people on the campaign trail, they are still bringing it up. people, voters -- listen, i was talking to republican primary voters, but when talking to people just out and about, and in iowa and other state, they bring up reproductive rights. they bring up roe v. wade. and what it is -- what i keep hearing is it is the precedent. that it was set and now it is not. that it was undone. and it has been taken away. so look, democrats are betting big that it will have the exact
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same effect that we've seen state after state in kansas, in ohio, and places where they want to win and then they haven't been winning, right? we'll just have to see if it is still -- you know, if it still has that power. >> when i was covering the white house, i always appreciated when you would weigh in on the vice president. being dead serious. you had a more level headed approach to thing and you would push back at some of the stuff that would leak often from either inside her team or inside the west wing. her role going forward, and her role which i think is underappreciated in the way it has developed the last several months, but what do you see as they have the first joint event of the day? >> one of the statements i got in trouble for is calling her portfolio trash which at the time it was. but what you are seeing -- >> clearly. >> you are seeing the white house allowing her to flourish. she's getting outside of washington. she was in wisconsin, now virginia, south carolina, doing voter education and voter rights
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panels with latasha brown and black voters matter in georgia. she'll be back in south carolina at the pink ice ball this friday. and so you are seeing her move around. she is one of the best messengers the campaign has. and she along with secretary buttigieg are probably the best messengers that they have. >> and people would say how can you possibly believe that after what i've read in the media. >> and that is part of the problem. they put her in this box where they allowed the expectations and the characters came churs to get out of whack. but we saw this issue, it didn't just win in pennsylvania, but it also won in places like kansas and ohio. as a democrat i'm glad that we are -- just as an american, this is a refreshing conversation to have. like we're not talking about the train wreck and circus that is the behavior of donald trump. we're actually talking about policy issues which i think americans are keen on and focused on. and i'm glad the first campaign event is not a threat to
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democracy event. those have gotten a little bit dry. we all know donald trump, either you believe he is a threat to democracy or you don't. there is no swaying anybody in the middle. so this is an issue in this first campaign event together i think is important because we're actually talking about substantive issue, issues like this, issues about how good the economy has become, issues about the future with all of the policies that have been passed by the president of the united states, this is where need to be and this is where she needs to be. >> and so i'll try to bring it back to the circus and train wreck. >> bring it home. >> because it is interesting. because not un-- president was asked about that and doesn't want to weigh in. >> do you believe when donald trump is making these statements, suggesting this is all attributed to the biden administration or to the department of justice, what is your response to people who believe that in fact it is all orchestrated as one?
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>> what he is saying is not fact all. period. period. and that would not be new for him, would it. >> do you think people believe that it is appropriate for a president to have immunity? >> i think that we'll have to leave that to the lawyers handling the cases. >> do you think it is plausible to maintain that separation, we don't want to attack on the indictments, it is pretty ripe political fodder one would think. >> i think that she's doing the right thing. i think staying away from trying to be a heavy hand or play into donald trump's hand where he will try to say that it is the administration that is making all of this hay in all the court cases. so smart for her to stay away. to your point, you either think donald trump is a threat to democracy or you don't. we're three years in to this process. so i don't think that either one of these races will be totally defined by that. donald trump will have his base. joe biden will have his base. and quickly as soon as the primaries get over, we'll start focusing back on the suburbs again. these are the issues that will start resonating and that is who
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will elect the next president. i'm one of those hardcore conservatives that just believes that the suburbs -- donald trump lost the suburbs forever. every time he lies, every time he throws all the fodder and red meat and lies, i just think that the suburbs are away. and going back to the abortion issue, i do think this is a tough spot for republicans. and we do have to be more cohesive and more work together on messaging. but the realities are it is a state by state issue. in georgia, brian kemp, stacy abram mass a big point about kemp couldn't win because of the heartbeat law, but he stayed away from using it as a galvanizing force and we didn't talk about doing away with exceptions. but we talked about foster care and legislation. so there are ways to do this. >> certainly a central point of discussion. thank you very much, guys.
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poppy, back to you in new hampshire. >> phil, thank you very much. up next, our conversation with voters right here, phil and i sat down with them for breakfast yesterday in new hampshire. they are making their choice today even if they don't like their choices. >> i will hold my nose and vote for one of the candidates.
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for some new hampshire voters casting a ballot feels like choosing between spinach and kale. you could make an argument for both, but there must be more satisfying options out there. so phil and i sat down yesterday morning for breakfast with jane and don, two republican new hampshire voters who feel that way to get to the bottom of their angst. listen. >> why are you not happy with the option? >> i think that both of them have their own ideas and their
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set -- they are set one way. i think that it is time for a change. i don't like the things that either one of them have done. >> do you mean biden and trump? >> biden and trump. both of them. i'd like to see somebody to come in and do a better job if you will. >> nikki haley says she's the change marriage. >> i wish it was chris sununu and then i'd vote for him. >> but he endorsed her. >> i know. that is my issue. >> tell us more. >> well, i'm really not sure. i don't know enough about her other than what i've seen on the ads. we've never been able to meet her personally. plus i'd rather have them tell
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what their positions are, rather than combatting each other. so i have an issue with that. so that is why i'm undecided at the moment. >> don, where are you right now? >> my favor right now is a third party candidate. nikki haley, i think could do a fine job, but my personal feeling is we are a situation where we might be facing another world war and i'm not sure nikki would be strong enough to handle that. >> not strong enough. why? >> i don't think that she has the experience in the military end of it. i realize she's been a governor and she's done a good job and she did a very good job when she was in the united nations. but i just don't -- i don't feel that she is military minded.
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sglech >> even though her husband is serving right now? >> he's a major in the national fw guard, i unz. understand. >> and trump has never served. >> when i think of donald trump, he might be the strongest candidate in military end, but his total attitude towards the whole world and especially the people of the country, i don't go along with his way. >> so where does that leave you? i think a lot of americans are in the same place you are and you are. that there has to be something else. doesn't look like there is going to be. >> i know, that will present a real problem when it comes to the government. >> do you stay home or do you hold your nose and vote for one or the other? >> i will hold my nose and vote for one of the candidates that is running. but hopefully i'll have a third person to choose from. >> even though i'm hoping that
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by next november that there will be a third person that will enter this race, you know, and being really good at it. hopefully. >> first and foremost, very grateful that they were willing to take their time after their breakfast to hang out with us. i think what was most fascinating, and this is man on the street talking to voter, all anecdotal, just how much they reflected what the broader polls throughout the nation are saying. they don't want this rematch. they would really like to have a third option. and yet they seem to be starting to grapple with the fact that this is reality. >> yeah, 100%. and remember don ryder was elected as a republican official in in this state previously. so pretty firm republicans and not happy with the kale or the spinach i guess. >> but they will vote, which i thought was interesting.
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all right. we'll get back to you. in minutes voters will begin casting ballots across new hampshire, nikki haley hoping to defy the polls and slow down the trump train. and a democrat hoping to derail joe biden's election bid to o kp him m out of whihite house.. that is s ahead.
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