right, now a new york jury is deliberating on how many millions donald trump must pay eugene carroll after defaming her. there was a lawyer told the jury the number should be at

least $24 million. after trump walked out of court, we could get a decision any moment. we're live at the courthouse covering it all. it must might amount to torture, those words coming from the united nations after alabama carries out a first of its kind execution. has state officials are reacting to the criticism and what it means for capital punishment in the u.s.. >> and very real outrage over fake artificial intelligence images. some explicit and, again, a fake images of taylor swift are circulating on social media. they've been viewed millions of times before they were removed. it's not just happening to celebrities. get this, children as well. we'll tell you what's being done to stop this disturbing trend. i'm voice inches with breonna -- in the nation's capital, or following these developing stories and many, more all coming in right here to cnn news central.

one day after jurors heard former president trump on the stand, the cases now in their hands. jury deliberations underway on this dramatic final day of the trump civil defamation trial. former president was there for some of the closing arguments. he did abruptly walk out in the middle of the plaintiffs presentation. the jury will decide whether trump has to pay damages for defaming e. jean carroll when he was president. her lawyer told the jury, the only way to deter trump from further disparaging carroll is by sending a message. a 24 million dollar message. cnn's kara scannell was in court for all of this. kara, tell us where things stand. >> reporter: breonna, the jury is now deliberating. they went back behind the doors in their private room at about 1:40 pm. the judge gave them some outline of how this day should play out. he, said they can deliberate,

he's not putting any pressure on this. but he, said if you're not done by 4:30 today, we will break for the day. if, however, you want to continue to deliberate after 4:30, he said we would go for a little bit longer. not late into the night. if no verdict is reached today, they will convene again on monday and continue their deliberations. that came after a morning full of closing arguments and some wild moments in the courtroom with the former president himself walking out when e. jean carroll's attorney was giving her closing argument in the case. their claim to the jury is that donald trump must pay, because that's the only way to stop him from repeating these defamatory statements that he has made against e. jean carroll. back in 2019, the issue in this case, but even up to and including, as they said, his testimony on the stand yesterday. as brief as it was. carolers asking the jury to hold donald trump accountable and make him pay for. it $24 million, what they are seeking compensatory damages. they're seeing a large number,

anything they want, that they think donald trump should pay as punishment. that's the punitive damages. his lawyers of course telling the jury that e. jean carroll, in effect, asked for this because she went public with her, story she wanted the attention, they said her career was waning and when she wrote this book in 2019 and made the accusations against the sitting president, she should've expected this attention. that donald trump should be held responsible for mean tweets and death threats that she received. carol's lawyer saying that donald trump is not the victim in this case, it is e. jean carroll. this is what is up for the jury to decide. how much money donald trump should pay for the harm that e. jean carroll had received as a result of the defamatory statements. remember, last year, jury awarded her $5 million for the sexual assault and defamation for statements made in 2022. question for this jury is how much more he will have to pay. breonna, forest? >> we'll see about that. kara scannell, thank you for the latest there.

let's bring in attorney and legal analyst areva martin now. areva, this walk of trump's out of court in the middle of e. jean carroll's lawyer is closing argument. could that cost the former president? i >> hope it does, breonna. that was the most disrespectful display of petulance that we've ever seen. it goes right to the heart of the plaintiffs closing argument. which is that donald trump thinks he's above the law. he doesn't have to play by the same rules that you or i or anyone else in a trial or in a courtroom has to play by. throughout this, trial he has exhibited behavior, trust me, that if anyone else other than donald trump exhibited, this trial probably would have been over. the judge may have held him in contempt. he would have faced severe consequences. things like making statements under his breath in the presence of the jury. that is, never ever allowed.

not only did he walk out, rihanna, we should note that one of his attorneys got up and walked out after he did. again, that attorney would have been disciplined by the judge for engaging in that kind of conduct. so, i hope the message that e. jean carroll's lawyers sent about donald trump, sending this message that he's not above the law, i hope that resonates with these jurors. >> could we see a verdict today, do you think? >> i think we could. this is a very complicated case. this is a case that, in many ways, is very straightforward. they're not determining liability, they don't have to determine if donald trump did in fact defame e. jean carroll. although donald trump's lawyer, again, is playing so fast and loose with the rules. made allegations during her closing statement and throughout this trial, really, trying to get in before the jury that there's still some question about the actual conduct, the sexual assault.

and still wanting the juries to doubt whether donald trump did in fact sexually assault e. jean carroll. that is not an issue here, not being, decided it has already been decided. the only issue here is, should donald trump have to pay? if so, how much should he pay? >> the argument that carroll's lawyer is making here is that you need to deter him from continued defamatory remarks. and the only way to do that is to set damages incredibly high, $24 million is the mark that they say they should be set at the defense is arguing here that you can't blame the former president for what people did online. whether it's online threats, hate mail that carol received. who do you think made the stronger case? >> i think that argument is ridiculous. we have seen time and time again that donald trump has the ability to inspire, to galvanize and to cause his base

to take action. we've seen it before, we saw on january 6th. i think jurors are smarter than that. they completely understand that, if the president of the united states uses his or her bully pulpit, the biggest platform on the planet, to come after you, then that's going to have negative consequences. particularly when the president has the kind of base that we know he has. as a base that will not only engage in threatening comments online but will actually take action. i don't think jurors are going to buy, that i think they will wholesale reject that and i think they are going to find that it is terribly troubling to be the subject of the president, his vitriol. which has been the case here. >> areva martin, thank you, we'll be watching to see if we do get a decision from the jury today or not. for us? >> in the race for 2020, for president biden is employing a familiar tactic, the one that is relatively new for him.

he's hoping to throw off donald trump right off his campaign message by taking jabs at his likely republican opponent. recently, biden has been mocking trump, calling him things like loser and emphasizing the former in former president. the person close to trump actually says that he is rattled by biden's efforts to get under his skin. aides to the presidents reelection campaign tells cnn that the taunting will keep up as they shift into general election mode, even if it sparks criticism that biden is taking a page straight from trump's playbook. let's discuss with cnn's reporter isaac dovere. also with us is republican strategist and former rnc communications director doug hyde. isaac, doug, great to be with you. isaac, walk us through the reporting, this is fascinating. >> on the one, hand is not that hard to see where trump's insecurities are. biden has zeroed in on them. saying he's a loser, see the smile that comes across biden's face when he says. it he likes doing it in part because he likes taunting trump,

he likes the idea of getting under his skin. he also feels and the campaign aides tell me that they agreed that this is a good way of getting across some of their central message. when they say that trump is a loser, that's making people remember that trump has not accept the results of the 2020 election. which gets to their larger argument about democracy under threat. they want to keep pushing that in a way that breaks through more than just the high-minded way of doing it. but it makes people pay attention because it's a little bit of a fight. >> that high minded style is something that democrats have tried before against donald trump. i remember, michelle obama at one point, in 2016, i remember her saying when they go low, we go high. this is biden playing a little bit, 30 different than the kind of dirty that trump plays. >> it is, the little parallel on the track with what we're seeing in the republican primary as it remains now. nikki haley is doing the same thing. that's why we saw donald trump make mistakes. his speech in new hampshire after the primary, very, different very negative of new hampshire than it wasn't iowa. saying anyone who donates to nikki haley is no longer

allowed in the maga movement. the move with the rnc. the analogy i would use, rocky three is the greatest of all the rocky movies. what did rocky boy west fight? he observed the blows from compelling, trying to get him angry so he would make a mistake. the challenge there if you're nikki haley or joe biden is, you have to take a lot of punches from someone who takes full throws a lot of punches and likes to do that. but, also are you rocky path or not? the analogy, again, best of the rocky, movies the analogy is there. >> i don't, no man. rocky ended the cold war in part for. let's never forget that. isaac, the other fascinating thing about this is it's actually working against trump. he's getting frustrated by. this >> people close to trump tell us and they would prefer trump stay on the arguments about the economy and immigration and those sorts of things. but they cannot control, trump here is, this seats what biden saying and it gets under his skin. then he lashes back. good example of that was a couple weeks ago and biden said,

trump is a threat to democracy. went after him and all sorts of ways. trump said, no, biden's threat to democracy. it became that. instead of an argument about what he wanted to do to deal with inflation or any of the other issues that are more directly in front of the voters that they're hoping to appeal to. >> that's really fascinating, doug. i do want to ask you about the spat over immigration. because i think that is an issue that the former president wants to be central to the campaign. so much so that it appears he has thrown a wrench into the senate deal that has been worked on for several weeks that tried to pair aid for ukraine it israel with some agreements, some consensus on immigration. it's just a flexed by trump, isn't it? to say, i know you lawmakers want to, accomplish i know what you've been working, on but it's more important for me to win that it is for us to fix the border. >> in an electioneering, was going to be very difficult to get that sort of three piece part of legislation through. through the senate and the house. they're just too far away with very narrow majorities.

the trump inserting himself in there makes this a lot more political than it necessarily should be. and it already is political. it's also a mistake by trump to do so because, well it does show the party bending to him to some extent, it allows joe biden some offense on an issue where his numbers are terrible. every poll you see of biden on immigration, he is underwater. not by four points or ten points but by 20 points, 32 points. this gives him an opportunity to go on offense on somewhere where he's been on defense for years now. it also highlights the argument for republicans now, we should hold off to let donald trump do that think that he was actually unable to do when he was president. not a strong argument. >> doug, i lastly want to get your thoughts on the news about the rnc. will you formally, worked as we noted. initially, they push for this resolution to essentially declared donald trump the 2024 republican nominee. then they decided to push that back when trump said he wanted to win by virtue of voters. what do you make of all of that? >> clearly shows that nikki haley is getting under his skin. the money she is raising and so

forth. also highlights what some of the rnc trump problems are. part of this, is they need to raise money. that is setting up what we call joint fundraising. the rnc needs this, it's not raising the money that it needs to. i worked at an rnc that didn't always race immunity to two. that's a challenge. trump has a same challenge. unfortunately, when you then try to circumvent the process, you're going over and above your own states and three members of each state niche territory that want to have caucuses and won't have primaries. it's part of why blew up in their face. >> isaac, perhaps the most contentious question of the afternoon. rocky through your rocky four? >> i'm an original list, i'll go with rocky one. >> isaac, doug, thank you so much for the conversation. still to come on cnn news central, israel in front of the international court of justice. judges ordering israel to take all measures to prevent genocide in gaza. stopping short of calling for a cease-fire. a senior adviser to israel's prime minister is going to join us in just moments to talk

about that ruling. plus, alaska airlines today planning to fly that boeing max nine for the first time since a door plug on one of its planes ripped off midair. talking about a gaping hole on a plane, 16,000 feet in the air. we're digging in two years and concerns about bugs quality control and safety issues when we come back.

judges at the united nations highest court have ordered israel to take immediate steps to prevent genocide in gaza, but stopped short of demanding a cease-fire. in a series of provisional measures handed down at the hague today, the court says israel must do more to prevent the killing and harming of civilians and allow more humanitarian aid to enter gaza. it also called for the release of all hostages held by hamas. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu praised parts of the ruling and vowed to press ahead with the war. >> israel has an inherent right to defend itself. the vile attempt to deny israel this fundamental right is blatant discrimination against the jewish state and it was justly rejected. our war is against hamas terrorists, not against

palestinian civilians. we will continue to facilitate humanitarian assistance and do our utmost to keep civilians out of harm's way, even as hamas uses civilians as human shields. we will continue to do what is necessary to defend our country and defend our people. >> we're joined now by mark regev, senior adviser to prime minister netanyahu. , mark thank you so much for being with us. it doesn't sound like netanyahu is taking the suggestions to heart. this isn't going to affect how israel is prosecuting this war going forward. it's not a fair read? >> i think it's important to understand that south africa was playing the part of the legal team for hamas. they were cynically and outrageously exploiting the genocide convention and using that as a tool to try to find

cover to protect a genocidal terrorist organization which is of course a month. it's like cynicism has no limits here. they wanted to say that israel has no right to defend itself against these hamas terrorists, against these hamas murderers. the court today with clear in saying there will be no measure that says israel, you have to stop your fight against hamas, that we had this amount let hamas stay in gaza and keep our hostages held in some dungeon they are underground. and they continue shooting rockets into israel and attack us again like they did on october 7th, given the opportunity. we will continue the campaign against hamas. at the same, time as we've been doing, will make every effort to keep civilians out of the cross fire in facilitate the arrival of humanitarian aid for gazan civilians who are not the target of our operation. >> no cease-fire, very clearly,

that was something south africa wanted. they do not get that here. the court did find it plausible that israel has committed acts that violated the genocide convention. this court isn't saying though, with its finding, continue as you are going. but that sounds like the plan, as you describe it. >> look, the court did not rule on its own jurisdiction, the jury, so to speak, is still out on that one. court definitely didn't rule on the substance, saying that israel was agreeing with the south african allegations in the south african charge -- >> let's talk about the substance of what they are suggesting. about how the war is being prosecuted when it comes to preventing acts of genocide, punishing those who are committing them and facilitating humanitarian aid

and basic services. they're not telling you that because they think that what is going in now is sufficient. >> so, let's be clear. israel is conducting this war in accordance with the international rules of armed conflict and international humanitarian law. we have been and we will, be that's independent of any discussion going on at the international court for justice. we are a democratic country, we uphold democratic values and, when air forces go into, combat they do so under the rules of war. we pride ourselves on, that that's part of our dna. of, course we have no trouble with continuing to do so, continuing to facilitate humanitarian aid and to continue to differentiate between -- the civilian population. of, course we'll continue to do. so it's a africa wanted a,

cease-fire maybe that sounds good to some people watching. they have to understand, a cease-fire that leaves hamas in power is a recipe for more violence further down the line. just a recipe for another october 7th. hamas leadership itself says they would commit the october 7th massacre again and again and again. that south africa was proposing all that just shows you how this was a cynical exploitation of the genocide convention for political purposes to try to help their terrorist allies. >> i do want to ask you, and i will say, there have been clearly some violations by israel's standard of how this war should be perpetrated. that is very clear. i do want to ask you about this unrwa revelation here. israel providing the u.n. relief and works agency with information alleging that several of its employees participated in the atrocities of october 7th unrwa has

terminated contracts with those individuals. it is ordering an independent review, i wonder if you trust that review. >> so, the unrwa leadership would want you to believe that what happened on october 7th and the involvement of own raw employees, united nations employees in the massacre, the atrocity is, that that's an aberration. unfortunately, it's not an aberration. it is systematic. there's also evidence that unrwa teachers, teachers and schools that the united nations runs and gaza celebrated the massacre. celebrated the october 7th atrocities. there's also evidence, as has been reported, one of the hostages who came back, she was held prisoner in unrwa employees home. we know that the unrwa organization, thousands of

palestinians and gazans that work for unrwa, that is dominated controlled by the hamas organization. you have this international, people often europeans who come to head the unrwa organization but they can we go. the staff that actually run the organization, the civil service, so to speak, the bureaucracy it's hamas. i think it's time there is a very serious look. this organization portrays itself as, humanitarian called herself a relief and welfare organization. but its relationship with hamas is far from incidental. >> mark, we appreciate your time. obviously, a very consequential day, thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> still, ahead of the nra corruption trial underway in new york. first up to testify, longtime chief wayne lapierre, now ousted. what he's saying about allegations that he used the nra as a personal piggy bank.

close, the first of its kind execution has been carried out in alabama. quite so controversial and what it means now for the death penalty.

former national rifle association ceo wayne lapierre is testifying today in the civil corruption case against him brought by new york attorney general letitia james. lapierre is accused of using nra funds as his personal piggy bank, paying for lavish trips on private jets, expensive, meals private security, et cetera. let's discuss with cnn chief law enforcement analyst john miller. john, what are you learning about his testimony? >> well, he's been on the hot

seat today in the state supreme court, being examined by an assistant attorney general from new york state. this is the case that was brought by the new york state attorney general letitia james, parentheses, the same new york state attorney general who has the case against donald trump and his business, in the same courthouse. but as this unfolded today, lapierre was called to answer from the assistant attorney general john conley, what about the trips to the bahamas? what about the safaris and africa? what about the private yachts that were paid for by nra vendors? most of his answers were boiled down to yes or no, until it was put on the hot seat about why he declared bankruptcy from the nra. i got into a testy exchange between, heat the prosecutor, and the judge who overruled some of the testimony. where he said this was all for political purposes of the new york state attorney general

considers the nra a terrorist organization. but boris, this is an existential trial for the nra, not just wayne lapierre, who is already resigned from his position that he's held since 1991. this is about how the organization will come out on the other side and if it will still exist in its current form. >> john miller, appreciate the update, thanks a bunch. breonna? >> officials in alabama are defending their decision to execute a death row inmate with nitrogen gas. they say it won't be the last time. thursday marked the first time the method was used in the u.s.. now, at some of the witnesses who watched, kenneth smith diet, they say he appeared to be conscious for several minutes into the execution as he shook and riot on the gurney. earlier, alabama tourney general steve marshall responded to the criticism. >> what occurred last night was textbook. i now suspect that many states will follow. as of last night, nitrogen apoxsee is a means of execution,

not wonder untested method. it is a proven one. we will definitely have more nitrogen apoxsee executions in alabama. >> now, to other states, mississippi and oklahoma, have legalized execution by nitrogen gas. this, morning the u.n. high commissioner for human rights suggested the method, quote, may amount to torture. we have cnn's isabel rosales, live for us in alabama where the execution occurred last night. give us the latest, here isabella. we >> well, breonna, as you mentioned, witnesses described kevin smith as arriving and gasping on the gurney for two minutes. this is contrary to what the state indicated in court documents would happen. expectation from their experts was that the nitrogen gas would render smith unconscious in seconds. that is not what happened. reporters asked the attorney general, steve marshall, about that. he doubled down, saying that

everything was, quote, consistent with their expectations. and in, fact he also invited other states to follow alabama's lead, indicating that alabama would help them implement nitrogen gas executions. i spoke with an independent journalist, lee hedge path, who is invited by the, inmate kevin, smith to witness his execution. he deeply disputes the attorney general's characterization of what happened. listen. >> this is the fifth execution that i've witnessed in alabama, i said previously and will say it again, it's definitely the most violent execution i've ever witnessed. it can be a textbook execution, there is no textbook for nitrogen apoxsee executions. this was the first to happen anywhere in the, world it's difficult to say what the attorney general was referring to when he said it's like textbook execution. >> hedge pat also said that he viewed that the mask he was

wearing had tape covering up the brand name, something he sees a lack of transparency by the state of alabama. we've reached out to the department of corrections on that. the question here, is will other states follow alabama's lead and how quickly? we know mississippi and oklahoma have allowed the use of nitrogen gas in executions. we did hear back from oklahoma, a spokesperson from the department of corrections he, says we should not expect, they are not planning for nitrogen gas anytime soon. that is because of the way that the law is written there in oklahoma. only permits the use of nitrogen gas if they can't find the drugs necessary for a lethal injection. we did ask them whether there is a shortage, as we've seen so many other states struggling to find those drugs. they said they do not have a shortage. the only other path too is if we flip injection it's an we deemed unconstitutional. brianna? >> isabelle rosales, thank you for this update on a very closely watched situation there in alabama.

alaska airlines is hours away now from flying its 737 max 9 jets again after that midflight door plug blowout forced all of the planes to be grounded. plus, the swifties are not having it after fake sexually explicit pictures of taylor swift flooded the internet.

now to some of the other headlines we're following this afternoon. world wrestling entertainment founder vince mcmahon is being sued by a former female employee. janelle grant is accusing mcmahon of sexual assault, sex trafficking and physical abuse, saying that he promised her job and promotions in exchange for

sex. in a statement, wwe says the matter predates the parent company's tenure but that it takes the allegations seriously. mcmahon previously stepped down as chairman and ceo amid an investigation into alleged mid conduct. he currently serves as chair of wwe's parent company. in the meantime, the city of new london, connecticut is settling without one of the most iconic features of it skyline. you see done the background there. it collapsed, a historic church built in the 1850s, just crumbled to the ground yesterday. luckily, the building was empty when the steeple caved in. no injuries were reported. what is left of the historic churches now being demolished according to local reports. and, as detroit gets ready to cheer on its lions for the nfc championship game, another detroit titan is making sure that fans get to fully experience the historic moment. general motors is planning to delay the start of its third shift at the flint assembly plant on sunday so workers can actually watch the lions take on the san francisco 49ers for

a spot in the super bowl. still to come, swift action. fans vowing to protect megastar taylor swift after a.i. generated sexually explicit images of the popstar spread on social media. what could be next in the fight against the deepfake photos.

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(vo) fargo, the new virtual assistant from wells fargo, gives you information you need quickly. (hr manager) if you don't have your account info for direct deposit... you all gotta come back tomorrow! (employee) fargo, what's my checking account routing number? (hr manager) be like her. (vo) do you fargo? you can, with wells fargo. sexually explicit, completely fake and totally unacceptable. criticism has spread after a.i. generated images of taylor swift spread rapidly across social media and were viewed millions of times before they were taken down. the white house weighing in just moments, ago calling the

deepfakes alarming and pressing for laws that address this problem. currently, there are no federal laws against sharing or creating fake images. the nine states do have laws against non consensual deepfake pornography. let's discuss with technology journalist lori segel. laurie, thanks much for being with us. let's take a step back, because i think the fake technology is still so relatively new that a lot of folks may not be familiar with it. how is it that a i can take these images and produce them this way? >> for us, it's actually horrifying. i get ptsd because i remember covering, when i was at cnn, non consensual pornography. this horrific problem and harassment against women. now, this is that but on steroids. you don't even have to take a sexually explicit image for someone to do this to you. we now have a.i. and a.i. image generator is that essentially mimic our most human qualities. he can imitate our voice, they

can imitate our words, they can imitate our bodies. and the bottom line is, it's becoming increasingly -- the perception of truth is just it's there. you might see something and it might be, quote, fake, but it really looks real. that's where things have gotten incredibly problematic, especially because we don't have the right guardrails now to protect folks. >> speaking of those guardrails, congress has to do something about this, right? what are the options for lawmakers here? >> yeah, it's so funny it's like, i've covered the downside of technology for the last 15 years and we've all been talking about a.i. and misinformation and how it can impact the election. i've been sitting here saying, the number one thing we really do need to worry about is the future of a.i. and consent and at the fact that this is happening and is rampant and, yes, happened to taylor, swift which is horrifying, but it's actually happening behind the scenes at high schools around the country. with young victims being

harassed. women are being stripped of their consent, as a consequence of this technology. what can congress do? the same way that back in 20, 15 congress started passing state laws against non consensual pornography, they need to be doing this and they need to be doing this at a quicker pace than they actually are when it comes to deepfakes. there are a handful of states that are passed this legislation, though they vary in scope. most recently, actually spoke to a woman who is at the forefront. she's a lawyer at the forefront of these types of threats. which he said was there is a bipartisan bill called preventing deepfakes of intimate images act of 2024 that is recently reintroduced. my hope as those calls attention to this, my hope is that taylor swift moves the needle on just about everything so, hopefully, will do that with this. >> are we in the understanding that she's going to file some kind of lawsuit?

>> so there are options. the thing i really want people to know is that taylor swift has resources. so many of the people this is happening to do not have the resources. first of all, the laws are there to protect them, and they do not have the resources if they want to pursue this. i will say when i started with technology there was an app for everything. if you want to get a car, order and uber . the same thing is happening with ai generated pornography. if you want to address someone, there is an app for that. if you want to create a video with your crush, there is an app for that. for victims and also abusers, young men. we have to start talking about that.

>> the implications of ai or just difficult to encapsulate. there is way to positively impact the world, and so many ways it could be horrifying. lori siegel, great to see you, thanks for coming. rihanna? alaska airlines says it plans to flight 737 max nine airplanes for the first time today since that door plug incident that you no doubt remember, which cause the faa to ground the aircraft. the faa has ungrounded the plains pending inspection by alaska and united airlines. take a look at this. you can see alaska airlines has 65 max nines. united has 79, which the airline is planning to fly by sunday. boeing's recent issues bringing to the surface what is been years of quality and safety issues at the company. some of these concerns leading to the long-term grounding of some jets and a halt in deliveries of others. and when it comes to the 737,

it's max eight design was found to be responsible for two fatal crashes. the first happened in indonesia back in october of 2018, lion air flight jt 116 was carrying 189 people including three children when it went down over the java sea. and the other in ethiopia in 2019. ethiopian airlines eta 302 crashing soon after it took off, 157 people were on board in that case. and those incidents led to a 20 month grounding of the company's best-selling jets, which cost boeing more than $21 billion and internal communications that were released during the 737 max grounding showed one employee describing the jet as quote designed by clowns who in turn are supervised by . joining us now is cnn's pete muntean.

before we go any deeper here on the culture at boeing and some of the bigger picture questions that this is bringing up, what more are you learning about the 737 max nine? >> 19 day long grounding? what is a couple more hours? this flight has already been delayed. this flight from seattle to san diego today, alaska airlines flight 1146 will be the first flight of licensee january 5th incident along alaska flight 182 , it was supposed to leave at 12:20 today now seems like it will leave at 3:20 today. this is something that airlines are eager to put behind them, and get these rains inspected as ordered by the faa. the big thing that the faa wants him to look at is the door plug, of course, the thing that blew off of alaska flight 1182 with explosive force back on january 5th. the faa says the big things to check are of course the guides, but also the bolts. there are four of them on the

max nine door plug. two at the bottom and then they are appear at the guide fittings. the airlines alaska and united did find loose bolts on their fleets. so now the faa is mandating for these airlines to go through, make sure they fix any possible discrepancies here in order to get these airplanes flying again. now the onus is on the airlines , so that is why there is going to be a little bit of a lag between the official ending of the grounding order from the faa that ended on wednesday night, and now these airplanes flying again. we will see alaska flying today, and united airlines flying again on sunday. >> so, we are talking about the 737 max nine, i was mentioning the 737 max eight. but that is not where it ends. there have been many concerns, not all of them fatal incidents, but any concerns about many models. >> you mentioned the max eight, there are also concerns about the max seven. senator tammy duckworth says there needs to be real

introspection here and maybe a denial of an exemption that boeing needs to get that airplane flying into the air. the next 10 is another version of this airplane, united ceo max kirby said it is not something is really interested in. i just want to look at the design of the airplane here, because we can sort of go through the different parts were there have been issues. the door plug is kind of obscured back here by the engine, but there've also been problems with the rudder bolts. there have also been problems with the pressure vessel which keeps the airplane pressurized, like a big 10 can. those are things that have come up not only at spirit air systems, the major contractor that built the fuselage of the max for boeing, but also at boeing. so the airplane has been riddled with problem after problem after problem. now the big question is will senators on capitol hill really get an answer from ceo to dave calhoun about why these problems keep occurring in the first place? a lot of these things don't happen in dramatic fashion like we saw on alaska flight 1282 with cameras rolling and a huge part of the airplane missing. a lot of the things are happening on the production line.

we see that not only with these incidents, but also on the 787, there have been whistleblower reports of that and production air stuff in 2021 and 2023. >> are they doing soul- searching? that is the question here, that is the question congress wants to know, that is the question passengers have. right now it seems like there is not enough of an indication for that. i suppose we won't be surprised if we see them up there on the hot seat. thank you so much for taking us through that, we really appreciate it. still ahead, day twowo o of trial of t the michigan school shooters mother back underway. new details about whether the killer himselflf is going to testify.