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hello again, and welcome, it's time to get together with some smart people po break down the big stories, today we're asking, with donald trump racing so quickly to the republican nomination, what can never trumpers do now to keep him from the white house? then, a possible d.a. disaster, is the georgia case against trump in danger because of a love affair? and it won't be groundhog day all over again, if animal rights advocates succeed in replacing punxsutawney phil with a coin toss. the panel is here and ready to go. sit back, relax, and let's talk about it. up first, the power of the few, after a relative handful of voters gave donald trump bac back-to-back wins in iowa and new hampshire the republican race for president is already being called. setting us up for one of the
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longest and least anticipated general election matchups ever. >> i say the general election begins tonight. >> donald trump's camp, declaring the race for the nomination is over. >> thank you, everybody, thank you, whoa. >> leading to a rush of endorsements from the republican establishment. >> we need to unite around our eventual nominee which is going to be donald trump. >> it's important to unify behind the candidate and i respect the voters' choice. >> so far only 434,000 voters have made their choice in just two states, less than 1% of the country's republican electorate. >> iowa and new hampshire are just not representative of the country as a whole, particularly on race. >> despite that concern, we're on track for the shortest primary season since 2004, when john kerry clinched the democratic nomination on march 2nd. >> change is coming to america. >> but, we won't see a change this year, as voters are stuck
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with a biden-trump rematch for the next 283 days. yikes. here with me today, podcaster kara swisher, reihan salam. lulu garcia-navarro, and conservative pollster kristen solis anderson. welcome back, everybody. so kara, why the rush? less than 1% of the total republican electorate has so far had their say and the gop is ready to say it's over. >> well, because it's in their interest to get -- move it forward and not create more -- more problems around donald trump, obviously there's a lot of them, especially the court cases and everything else. and so they want to sort of get momentum going now without something someone like nikki haley saying things, which she's saying with increasing frequency about his age, and whether he's
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unhinged, et cetera. >> but, i mean, it's always in the interest of the front runner, kristen, what surprises me is this isn't just trump trying to rush things and wrap them up, all but one of his opponents has already dropped out of the race, gop officials, elected officials, party officials rushing to endorse thimm, why the rush? >> the math is very difficult for anybody who's not donald trump. back eight years ago in conventional wisdom was you sqjust need the field to shrink, if donald trump gets in a head to head match youp it proves donald trump does not have the majority of the republican party. he does have a majority of republican voters saying, yes, clear eyed, i know exactly what i'm getting with this guy and this is what i want. for nikki haley to stay in, its brings me no joy to say this, it's hard to see a path forward for her. while it's true that a handful of voters in iowa and new hampshire are not representative of america, or even the republican party broadly, i don't see what state is next on
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the calendar where we expect her to do much better. >> that's not the point, is it? so what if she stays in? she has the money and the means, something different to say, a very important message of why are these old guys running. it's perfectly fine. it's not good for the republican party. >> it's an exercise in allowing republican voters to put down a marker and say, 55% of the party is trumpy, and 45% is not, or whatever it shakes out to be, that's fine, but the reality is, in terms of an exercise of amassing delegates to win in a convention, that's a tougher road. >> take a look at these numbers about the delegates, they're very instructive. a candidate needs 1,215 delegates this year, all the way over to the right side of that graphic, to clinch the nomination. see that little sliver on the left. so far, trump has won 32 delegates in iowa, and new hampshire. reihan, i guess the question i have is -- because ultimately this is everybody's dropped out.
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that's why this is over so early with the exception of haley. how did trump clear the field with the exception of haley so quickly? >> well, would be way to look at it is that if you think of him as an incumbent president, it's natural he would clear the field quickly and have an overwhelming victory, when you look at it from that vantage point it's striking haley did quite as well as she did in new hampshire and this is why it is so important for republicans to unite around trump at this point for trump himself, because she is servicing a vulnerability and that's a problem for nikki haley. because you could say, hey, why not, she's got the money, keep at it, but what she'll be accused of very soon is of being a stalking horse for joe biden. if what she is doing is demonstrating somewhere between 15 and 25% of republican voters are deeply dissatisfied with the person who is indeed likely to be the ultimate nominee, what is she accomplishing other than making it harder for trump to
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pivot to the center, as i suspect he's desperate and his campaign team is desperate to do. >> lulu, do you think that's fair? i know that's what trump is going to say, and republican officials, but do you think it's fair to say that nikki haley is gumming up the works? >> i think, certainly, that's what the trump team believes and i think we've seen the republican party coalesce around donald trump because they do want to move to a general election. these are two words i've never used before with donald trump which is this. he's run a disciplined and very effective campaign that has been very on message. i mean, we can talk all we want about his bond with the party and the base, but the fact soft matter is, is that he's really, really, in all of these states, sort of very effective campaign, he's been out, they have a good ground game. they've been -- >> he could crack. there's another -- it's a more than zero chance that he could crack, and so if you're nikki haley -- >> what does that mean? >> if something happens, like we
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just saw, we're going to talk about this later, this court case, there's all kinds of things that could happen, she's in the pole position if she stumbles, like, i mean i joke about it, if he stumbles, if he actually stumbles or legally stumbles or something else, she's in the pole position. why not hold onto it? there's no damage to her for doing this. >> i think there's a lot of damage to her. >> no, because she's doing a modified liz cheney. enough of it out that it's -- i think it's good for her to do this. >> you realize the trump campaign is going to take you saying that, and it's going to run in south carolina. >> kara swisher. >> because i'm their favorite, right. i just got a thing from nikki haley, i don't know how she got on my phone where it said if trump wants me to stop, and she -- he promises you can't stay in maga if you don't give money here, if you give money to me, and i wrote on one of the social -- on threads, promise, is that a promise, i can get kicked out of maga. it's that dangerous. >> let me ask you, this talk about liz cheney, liz cheney,
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mitt romney, adam kinzinger, assuming that he doesn't crack and that he does get the nomination and that he's the republican nominee, what do the never trump ers do now? where do they go? >> this is a tough moment, if you're a never trumper, because you could come away from 2016 going, whyou know what, it was weird, it was a fluke, it was a black swan event and then in 2020 you could even say he was the incumbent president, we stick with him. it is the moment where you have to realize, the old republican party is done, it is, this is -- we just witnessed the wake, we have seen the body, and it is donald trump clearing the field, and winning in these first two states, and that doesn't mean that a new party can't emerge in the future, that doesn't mean forever, nothing is forever in politics, but it is a moment of reckoning, this idea if you just work hard enough you can get the old party back in the short run, that dream is dead for the short term. >> that's why we see nikki haley as this sort of walking ghost, if you will, of like the
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republican party past. she is someone who is dynamic and has a lot to say, but at the same time i disagree with you, kara, i actually think that what she's reminding people of is the fact that this is not the republican party that she represents anymore. you know, it's the party of trump. >> when you talk about never trumpers, you're talking about a couple of different groups of folks one group has essentially become democrats, that's been true for several years. another group of actually would be open if donald trump, if he decided to be magnanimous, if he was someone who decided -- >> that's a big if. >> if he decided to say i'm the only republican who can help the party pivot to some degree on an abortion issue that's been incredibly challenging for them amongst suburban voters, then there are some of those folks who could come along, for that to happen rngs nikki haley has to move on, and that's the dilemma for the trump campaign. >> well, we're going to have lots of time, 280-some days to discuss all of this.
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then, there are the legal cases against donald trump, which kara referenced, one of them may be in trouble because of a love affair. some others may have a different problem. also ahead, work from home at your own risk. could staying out of the office hurt your climb to the top. and later, hey, siri, will the panel agree you need to sound more like them? stick around to find out.
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more and more, it's clear part of donald trump's campaign strategy is to use the courtroom to his advantage. and this week it became clearer than ever, that strategy is
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working with republican voters. >> raise your hand if you think he is fit for the presidency, even if he's a convicted felon. raise it high so we can see you. >> a display of unwavering support for donald trump this week, from a focus group of south carolina republicans. >> i think we're going to win easily. >> they are not alone. >> we want trump. >> in a national poll last month 52% of gop voters said they would back trump, even if he's found guilty of a crime. 31% said they would not. evidence the message from trump's last remaining primary opponent isn't catching on. >> with donald trump you have one bout of chaos after another. >> now one of the biggest cases against trump has gotten sidetracked. >> the indictment brings felony charges against donald john trump. >> in georgia fulton county
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district attorney fani willis is accused of having an affair. >> it's inappropriate for an elected official to be in a romantic relationship with some -- with a contractor who they selected. >> willis facing calls to step down, possibly putting the historic prosecution in jeopardy. >> now, we should point out that friday afternoon a jury in new york city awarded e. jean carroll $83.3 million in a civil defamation case, but kristen, why does it seem to be that republican voters, a majority of them, don't care if donald trump is convicted of a crime, they're going to still vote for him? >> they don't think it's a big deal because they think the cases are illegitimate to begin with. i think frankly the fact that the very first of this series of cases was the new york case, which was about -- i don't want to call it ticky-tack, but kind of the michael cohen hush money, something that happened a long time ago. >> paying off stormy daniels. >> correct.
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that case felt political, and it then meant that all of the subsequent ones that came after it, even ones of matters of great seriousness like you can't store documents in the bathroom -- >> classified documents. >> classified documents in the bathroom at mar-a-lago, it made all of the rest of it feel like part of a continuous whole of an assault against him, even though the cases are all very discreet. for a republican voter if you think the case in and of itself is illegitimate, then it is rational to say if he was guilty i think he shouldn't have been tried in the first place. >> i would go further than kristen, by the way, if you look at, for example, the first impeachment of donald trump, compared to the second one, had the first one not happened, the second one may well have succeeded. you may well have peeled off more republican senators, but i think there's a perception that there's this lawfare that is relentless, directed against the former president on political grounds, and therefore you can't trust it. >> kara, how do you explain it? a majority of voters say, as you
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saw there in that south carolina focus group, raise their hand, i'd vote for him even if he's a convicted felon? >> i think we'll wait to see if he's a convicted felon. when people do change their mind, this e. jean carroll thing is, people will go, oh, the next one he loses, oh, oh, oh, i think ultimately they -- many people, the penny will drop. not everybody, but the initial thing is, well, they're coming after him. but if he keeps losing, it could -- >> that's what they like about him too, though, the fact is, he seems to just be able to flout the law, do all the things that everyone wishes that they could do in the sense of just like not having to pay any consequences, we've seen what happened on friday, but generally speaking this is -- >> generally speaking? that's what happened on friday. there's no generally speaking, this jury probably was like what is this guy doing sighing and making things in court, they handed this woman $83 million. people do respect courts, most people do no matter where they're from and they will eventually add up with people.
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>> i want to pick up on that, reihan, as much as you can buy the weaponization argument, trials, assuming one of the jack smith election trials, election interference or the classify ed papers takes place, a trial happens, there's witnesses, there's evidence, if that all proceeds, and if he's convicted, i repeat if, you don't think that's going to have an impact and that some people who were -- who raised their hand to gary tuchman on tuesday might suddenly say, well, i'm not so sure if i want to vote for this guy? >> i think it will have an impact, and here's the thing. it doesn't have to have an impact with a 31% of voters who say it would affect their decision. it can be five or six. when you're in a game of inches, so i think that that is something he needs to be concerned about. but again, the answer to that for him is to try to irradiate the incumbent president biden. if you do that enough keep the 5 to 6% on the side. >> i don't want to miss talking
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in the segment about the georgia election interference case, lulu, and this is just extraordinary, in which the district attorney, the fulton county district attorney fani willis is going to have to have her own hearing because of allegations that she hired her boyfriend as a special prosecutor in the case, and then the boyfriend paid for the two of them to go on trips. i mean, that -- how much could that endanger that whole prosecution? >> i think it can endanger it. i also have to say this. oh, my god, if this is true, first of all, we don't know if this is true. but this is the most important case of your life, you are bringing it against a former president at a state level. you are a state-level -- this isn't a federal case, this is a state case, and you decide, you know what i'm going to do, i'm going to get my boyfriend on this case. i mean, we don't know if it's true, so, again, she hasn't actually responded to this. but it does strike me that if it's true, it shows a massive,
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massive error in judgment. >> since she has responded, her response is frankly out of the trump playbook to not actually address the allegations, but to just say, well, they're just coming after me because they don't like -- >> she responded in church, which is different. >> to me, it is -- i concur with everything you said about how it is baffling to me that you would potentially put something like this in jeopardy by being reckless, but also remember, donald trump doesn't view these things as legitimate parts of the legal process. he views this as television. and what is more salacious, and television-ready than a scandal of this nature, it plays exactly into his hands. >> and it reenforces his narrative about many of the cases being leveled against him. >> that said, from what i understand from actual lawyers, none of us are -- it will go forward. it may be salacious and interesting, but there's nothing that will disqualify the case. it might disqualify this particular prosecutor. >> it might taint it. >> she looks like an idiot, there's no question.
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love is blind, however reason she did it, i don't know. if she did. >> if she did. >> allegedly. >> yeah, it's like ridiculous. >> i love the if she did, but she looks like an idiot. >> the whole thing is bad for her, but it doesn't disqualify the case. it disqualifies her. most lawyers i talked to do say that. >> it could delay the case. if she gets taken off and nathan wade gets taken off, the special prosecutor/alleged boyfriend. >> it's a political plus -- it goes from being a political minus to a plus for the president. >> why? >> again, this idea that it was kind of corrupt keystone cops prosecution, you know, it's -- that becomes the story line as kristen was saying, that becomes what's made for tv can only help him. now, to a post-pandemic problem, empty office buildings leading to desolate downtowns, so, is it time to push back harder to get workers back to the office? that's next. to duckduckgo on all your devie
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# it's time to get back in the office. that's what white house chief of staff jeff zientz is telling federal workers. according to axios. he's convinced the federal government is more efficient when employees are in the office at least half the time. we looked it up, and the numbers are all over the place when it comes to productivity working from home. the numbers that are clear show that employees are not in the office as much as they used to be. before covid about a quarter of employed americans worked from home. that number obviously spiked in 2020, but about a third of us are still wfh. kristen, you run a business. is it time for workers to go
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back to work, meaning back to the office? >> this is a very tough one for entrepreneurs, business leaders because on the one hand i do believe people are more productive when they're in the office. i think there's something that you lose when everybody is just engaging with one another on zoom, on slack. i think there is benefit to in-person collaboration. but at the same time i want to attract young talent who have come of age in an era where working from home in your pajamas is the norm. in order to convince them to come back to the office. at my company, we say mondays and wednesday, all coming in together. give them a reason to be there. can't just be you have to sit at a desk. because that's how it's done. >> what's the reason? >> i think the reason is you get to come in, see your colleagues, have meetings and discussions that would be more awkward and uncomfortable over zoom, we try to do trainings, bring in lunch, make it a little bit fun so that the commute has a purpose. >> lulu, where are you on wfh?
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>> well, i wfh, so i'm clearly in favor of wfh. but i will also say that in this country we get so few benefits, there is no paid family leave, there is just absolutely nothing for the working stiff in this country and, you know, while we're still talking about working from home, this is about white collar workers, primarily, but it allows flexibility. i'm a parent, i can't tell you, when the pandemic happened is only silver lining was, oh, my goodness, i have some flexibility to pick up my kid and flexibility to go and do some things during the day. it really made my life a lot better. i don't think we're going to want to give this up. >> how do bosses feel about people working from home, beyond the very -- >> benevolent. >> that was the word i was searching for. i knew it was a big word.
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kristen, putting up some numbers about how they feel about it. a survey of 500 executives last year found 62% say in office time is somewhat or very important in who gets a promotion. another study found remote workers were 38% less likely to receive bonuses than colleagues in the office. so reihan, looking at this not from the boss's point of view, but the workers, are young workers who insist on staying at home, are they wrecking their careers? >> they're absolutely missing out. but there's a bigger issue, if you can do the job from your home in the burbs, that job can also be done from the philippines or from ukraine or from bangladesh or south africa or wherever else. this is what people don't understand. there's something unique about certain jobs that are in person. there's a collaboration, there's a training, there's a cohesion that you get, which is why when immigrants move from one country to a higher productivity
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country, they actually are paid higher wages, there's something there. but if you're saying i'm going to be a bunch of lines typed, you know, into some machine into the ether, then guess what, that can be done by anyone. one thing that's happening right now is a lot of start-ups are saying we're going to be remote first, even if that means that we're crappier, even if that means we're less productive because you don't want to give that money away in the form of office rent if you don't have to. but those companies are companies that are more explicit, they have things written down. they're not companies generating soft skills, and there are companies that, themselves, could get commoditized. that's a thing you need to think about. >> i'm enjoying this visit to the 1950s, everybody, it's over, work from home is here to stay. it's not going away. you're talking about intentional meetings, a lot of people are innovating on, come in on a certain day, you have certain things, or you bring people in. but this has happened. this is over, it's like, amazon delivery, it's like all these things, it's done. >> but you don't think there -- and now i'm talking, as i'm asking you the question, i'm talking to my kids.
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is there a career cost to working from home, and not being either in the boss's vision, or maybe necessarily in his mind? >> this has to be done by bosses. i've been doing work from home with my employees for 20 years now. if they wanted to see me, they had to come see me. that was the very difference. i wouldn't do calls on the phone or we would do intentional kinds of things. the way technology is going, you can do work from anywhere and that's very exciting. now, suddenly, investments, there's a new thing about the unicorns ten years ago, the woman who coined the phrase was talking about this, there's more investments in st. louis, in austin, in detroit, wherever it happens to be, it is so important for innovation across this country to understand work from home changes all -- >> offshoring wasn't a thing in the 1950s, and services offshoring -- this is going to be a massive, massive -- >> it's already been that. where do you think they developed it? >> kara, we're entering a new phase. this is something that workers need to understand, you're going to have to be more
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competitive, and by the way if you're working remotely from a lower cost place expect to get paid less. >> which they already do. it happens at all the places. >> that's going to intensify, and deepen, and people need to adjust to it. >> this is -- reihan, there is -- i mean, you're talking about this from like these very serious kind of, you know, costs for the company, and productivity. >> and for workers, and for their wages. >> but this is about, also, people, people, you know, have things that they want to do. >> absolutely. >> they have demands on their time. they don't want to commute. they don't want to spend hours in their car, americans spend more time commuting than any other country, they spend more hours working than any other country almost. and so this actually offers flexibility. and i really am with kara on this. it allows for innovation. in other parts of the country. >> i totally hear you there is a human side to the benefit, but there is also a human side to the costs. set aside the productivity, and the bosses and all of that. i think it's sad for people who
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are 22, 23 to not have a culture of getting to know their colleagues in the same way they did when they had to come to that very first job and show up at 9:00 a.m. and all of that. i do think that's also beneficial. >> there's a benefit to being -- having the meeting and then you walk out in the hall, so many things that happen -- >> oh. i really like churning butter, but we're not doing that anymore. >> i'd love to see the offshoring of a lot of these government jobs. let's do it. >> it doesn't matter where you work, chances are you've talked about our next story with colleagues. the "barbie" snub. plus, the new push to replace punxsutawney phil with a penny, our panel gives its yea or nay on both. that's next.
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once again it's time to get our group's yea or nay on water cooler stories, up first, the snub everyone's talking about, the oscars dropping a "barbie" bombshell when it announced this year's nominees, and both the star and the director of the year's biggest movie didn't make the list. that's actress margot robbie, and director greta gerwig. but ironically given the movie is about the patriarchy, ryan gosling was nominated for best sport supporting actor playing ken. kara, i have a pretty good guess your level. on a level of one to ten, ten being volcanic, how outraged are you? >> there's a snub every year. you'd be surprised. let me just say something. she can comfort herself with the fact that she made billions of dollars, and is the one of the highest earning directors in history. i think she's doing okay. the question is, are oscars relevant anymore? that's a bigger question. whether they matter. i interviewed ava duvernay today with an amazing movie, "origin,"
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astonishing movie. she's like, well, we'll try something else. she wasn't quite as exercised about it. greta gerwig deserved an oscar nomination at the very least, and margot robbie was brilliant in this movie. >> you're upset. >> i'm okay, and i thought ken deserved it, because he's kenough. >> and he got one. kristen, yea or nay on what happened -- well, i know what you're going to be a nay, but why? >> i am also of the mind that i think it's ironic that the "barbie" movie, it is true that ken was probably the best part of that movie, and sure, they can cry themselves to sleep on their bed of money from all of the money that this movie made but i also think the oscars have a big problem in terms of relevance to the average consumer as well. i'm not saying robert downey jr. should have gotten an award for iron man. i'm glad he seems likely to get one now. but the oscars can't just keep awarding things to no one
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has any interest in seeing. >> next, hey, siri, be more like me. a new study indicates we would like and trust voice assistants like siri or alexa more if they sounded and acted like us. so, lulu, would you like alexa more if it sounded more like lulu? >> hey, siri, no. mine sounds like a british butler, and that's the way i like it. i want my -- in fact, my daughter and i have this game that we play that we change sometimes from australian accents, but we settled on the british butler. it feels authoritative, kind of servile, we like it. >> you're an upstairs, down stairs kind of girl. >> exactly. >> reihan, would you like it to act more like you? >> i know this sounds creepy, i think that would be delightful, even more delightful would be if my google home device sounded exactly like you, chris, i wonder if you're going on the market. that could be a nice revenue stream for you. >> why would you like the google
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home device to sound like me? >> here on the show i've got to kind of obey your direction, i do to the best of my ability, and if the google device were just going, hey, i get it, wake up, it's 5:30 a.m., just kind of get out there, up and at them, reihan. >> i want christiane amanpour, i'm just saying. if i had to pick. this i love, the push to replace punxsutawney phil, peta, people for the ethical treatment of animals, is out with an ad, they claim that phil can't actually predict the weather, and should be replaced with a coin toss. who can forget that awful day ten years ago when then new york city mayor bill de blasio dropped a groundhog that later died. reihan, yea or nay on saying good-bye to the groundhog? >> oh, ferocious, intense nay. this is a sign of man's mastery over nature, and our partnership
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with the animal kingdom, we must keep this going. >> oh, my lord. >> a coin toss would be -- absolutely not. >> lulu, i have a different take on this. punxsutawney phil is one of the the central characters in a great movie "groundhog day," where are you on getting rid of poor phil? >> i did some research on this story, you'll be happy to know, and they used to eat poor phil, goes back into the 19th century here in the united states. it's got a long and storied history. and they used to eat poor phil. i think he's better off now than he used to be, and so i actually am also on the side of, you should just keep phil, he's probably okay. >> up next, a story for all parents, teens turning to an old and dangerous trend that's gone under the radar.
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now to a story that's gone under the radar, the resurgence of an alarming trend among teenagers, with all the focus on ozempic, and other weight loss drugs, people who can't afford them are turning to so-called budget ozempic, like laxatives and nonprescription diet pills which doctors say can have serious health effects. a new study shows one in ten teenage girls are now taking them and it's partly due to tiktok videos like this. ♪
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>> kara, obviously the concern of teen girls and a lot of other people about weight has been going on for a long time, how toxic is it now that it's amplified so much on social media? >> completely. statistics on self-esteem in girls are so disturbing, and the changes in terms of self-esteem going down so far is because of this, it's not the beginning of it, it's always been around and bad science that these there's a lot of promise in a lot of these weight loss drugs and it's -- if administered correctly, like a lot of drugs. in this case, there's even -- there's even memes around people who are extremely thin where the comments are so disturbing, keep not eating, hurt yourself, it's something that these platforms have got to address. it moves very quickly over into something very toxic and dangerous for young women. there is one thing that's new. that is you've suddenly got all of this focus on ozempic and other new drugs which are
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apparently remarkably effective in weight loss. you've got a daughter, a little girl, and one on the way. how concerned are you about this focus and does this all move us, particularly the real on, skbzika and the -- ozempic and the talk? >> the idea of when do you give your child a phone, when do you let her be exposed to this. it's all terrible. this is another horrible cherry on top of this disaster sundae. it's coming at an -- ironic's maybe not the word, but think of the conversation around body image has changed for the better so much since i was a teenager. you go back and look at "us weekly" magazine from when i was in high school and the headlines about celebrities who put on two pounds and they've gotten fat. now brands like victoria's secret changed marketing because they get the public does not
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want this perfect body image. yet tiktok trends combined with this drug are continuing to push this thing that i thought we had begun to turn back the clock on. >> lulu? >> as someone who was a fat person for most of their life and took ozempic because i was obese, i would say that we're conflating i think two different things. there is a medical condition where people who have the condition, this is a very promising drug, and it helps for health reasons. and then there's the second part of this, of course, which is the very toxic for of the way we talk about women and the way we talk about women's bodies, and the way that affects young girls. this is a terribly pernicious trend. >> the panel is back with prohibitions for next week's -- predictions for next week's big stories after the break.
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with qualifying internet. welcome back. it's time for our panel's special takes on what's happening or prohibitions of what we -- predictions of what we should be looking out. hit me with your best shot. >> who says nothing happens in washington these days? congress may be on the verge of passing a bipartisan tax deal that would do some really exciting and interesting stuff that bridges things that the democrats want and things that some republicans, particularly republicans worried about the state of families in america, have been concerned about. the affordability of raising a family. the child tax credit may get expanded or at least extended through new legislation. keep an eye on what happens on the hill. >> that can get a lot of people out of poverty. kara, you're watching the streaming side of our business? >> i am. i'm going to it tell you some
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numbers. this week netflix added 13 million new subscribers. they're the king of streaming video. they brought in -- they're now at 260 million people, the revenue grew 12% year over year. and they signed a big $5 billion deal with -- with wwe. which is fantastic. they're moving into area -- news is probably next, fyi. i think it's really important to show that you get through this valley of death of streaming like with a lot of things, and then it becomes very lucrative. it will only be lucrative from a few people. i would say if i had to get disney because it's a must have for families and max. and the others in a world of hurt. >> best shot? >> president biden is desperate to get the border under control and demonstrate that he's willing to take a hawkish stance on border enforcement. republicans have recently said, look, we're not going to cut a deal with you. you have all the authority you need to get the border under control. and texas has been in basically
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open revolt against the federal government over the border. the supreme court recently said to texas, guys, you've got to subordinate your position with that of the feds. they said no, we're not going to do it. my prediction is that president biden is going to reach an accommodation with governor abbott of texas. he is going to say, look, we're not going to try to blow up your spot, we're going to try to come to an agreement because i don't need this noise. it's going to undermine his chances for re-election. >> lulu, you're focused on something being in new hampshire this week that was a big deal up there which were ai-generated fake robo calls to democratic voters saying not to vote in the democratic primary, and i think you'll recognize the voice. here's a look -- >> it's important that you save your vote for the november election. voting this tuesday only enables the republicans in their quest to elect donald trump again. >> i got to say, that really does sound like joe biden, doesn't it? >> it does sound like him. of course what the ai robo calls
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were trying to do was dissuade democratic voters from showing up at the polls. and it is incredibly concerning. i think this is the beginning of what we're going to see in the next year and beyond. but especially in this election, ai is very dangerous when it comes to misinformation, the way it can mimic voices, and what it does is pollutes our information system. people don't know what they're listening to. people don't know who to trust, and that is i fear going to have a very, very terrible impact on -- >> and we always mention taylor swift. these awful, fake, pornographic images that are out of her that -- you know, she's outraged about. everybody's outraged about. >> that came out on x, formerly twitter. it's been -- again, something that is really, really dangerous and very difficult to control. >> thank you all for being here, gang. thank you for spending part of your day with us. we'll see you right back here next week.

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