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nevada! go get us another one. you got to fight for your right to party! >> for those of you wondering, it will take some logistical hurdle, but yes, taylor swift will most likely be in attendance at the super bowl. she has a concert the night before in tokyo. but because japan is so many hours ahead of vegas and a nonstop flight that takes about 13 hours, they should be in theory with almost a full day of rest if there was such a thing for her to see her man, the man, travis kelce. >> he is the man. we could play these pictures all day long. this is what america wants to see. coy, thank you very much. i'm sorry to all those fans in
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detroit, i do feel your pain. thanks to all of you for joining us this morning. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. "cnn this morning" starts right now. good morning. so glad you're with us. we begin with deepening tensions in the middle east. three u.s. troops have been killed in a drone attack in jordan, at least 34 other service members injured. and this is the first time the u.s. troops have been killed by enemy fire in the middle east since the start of the israel-hamas war. president biden vowing to hold those responsible to account. >> and donald trump bragging about his efforts to take a bipartisan border security bill, where a key negotiator says those talks stand. and the big game is set, my san francisco 49ers will take on taylor swift's kansas city chief -- is that right? yeah, that's right. we have the highlights from the championship games coming up.
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"cnn this morning" starts right now. here is where we begin. president biden is pledging a u.s. response after a drone attack killed three american soldiers in jordan. >> we had a tough day last night. in the middle east. lost three brave souls. they talked one of our bases. so i ask a moment of silence for those souls. we shall respond. >> those words from the president. this morning iran is denying any involvement in the deadly attack on that military outpost. u.s. officials though are blaming iran backed militants. they say the drone appeared to
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be launched from syria. the biden administration has been dreddreding this exact this the u.s. tries to prevent the war in gaza from spilling over into a wired regional conflict. >> president biden facing increased pressure from republicans to strike out. senator lindsey graham telling him to hit iran now. and hit them hart. senator cornyn urging president biden to target tehran. what president biden decides do will be enormously consequential. the scale of the response, goals behind it, they may define this final year of his first term. >> oren lieberman is joining us live from the pentagon. as we said, this is exactly what the united states and the president were worried about after a number of soldiers injured leading up to this. this is a significant escalation, you heard what the republican senators are urging the president to respond with. dine what options are being debated within the administration right now? >> there are a number of possibilities short of attacking
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iran and risking open regional war in the middle east. and that includes striking iraq or syria where the iranian proxies are based or frankly carrying out strikes this boftd countries. and then of course there is the question of what is targeted. do you go after weapons and facilities or do you escalate that and go after the leaders of the iranian proxy groups. we've seen the u.s. do that over the past couple of months in one or two cases. all of that is what president biden and his national security team have to consider. he held sunday briefings where he got information and options from his defense secretary lloyd austin and as well as jake sullivan. the u.s. left with no choice but to round after the drone account killed three u.s. soldiers at to you er 22, which is a base with about 350 service members. one of the key questions here, how did that drone get through u.s. air defenses. officials say the reason there was such a staggering number killed and injured here is
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because that dorone impacted ner the living quarters. so again finding out how it got to the base and managed to evade air defenses, that is a key question. and let's not forget this is exp expected to be lloyd austin's first day back after a month away. so clearly a tremendous pressure on him right now. >> you hear republicans advocating with a direct conflict with tehran. administration officials don't want that. how do you find the middle ground, are there options that can address this without spiraling into a direct conflict? >> i think there are and you are right iran has put out statements trying to distance itself from these iranian proxies that are not always under the thumb nail of tehran. so there is room to maneuver here. very unlikely that the u.s. will simply directly strike iran and instead it will be going after the proxies here. even if they are forceful strikes as we expect that didn't
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risk a regional war. >> thank you very much for the reporting. and let's bring in colonel cedric leighton. appreciate your time this morning. as to t to start with, the location of where this attack happened, where this u.s. outpost is in jordan, an ally of the u.s., can you explain the significance of it? >> sure, phil, good morning. in fact one of the key things to look at is where exactly this occurred. so this occurred right here in this area where the greater middle east where you see israel on the west, syria north, jordan where it kurd, iraq to the east and south to the south. so let's go into this closer.ku and south to the south. so let's go into this closer. iraq, jordan and syria come together in one particular area. this base right here is a major u.s. facility that has been around since about 2016 and used
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to help with what used to be called the syrian democratic army. this was the force that was fighting against assad, president of syria. it has also been used to fight against isis. the base right here, tower 22, that is the base that serves as one of the logistical supply areas for the base and other facilities in the region that the u.s. uses to help in the fight against isis and also to help train jordanian, iraqi and syrian democratic forces. >> can you speak to the big question that oren raised which is how did the drone get through u.s. air defense systems especially right near tower 22 near the living quarters? >> yes, this is one of the key things that is i think very important here. the living quarters are going to be in these areas right around here, you keep them away from the borders of the facility which are outlined right here in this shape. this is the main entry point to
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enter the area via trucks. key thing that you have here is that you want to make sure that you have some kind of an air defense system which obviously failed in this player case. but they had to use a drone to go after this because they couldn't get into it from the ground. they couldn't actually take out any of the other facilities around here, any other weapons systems used to defend this particular post. >> was this specific attack different than what we've seen more than 100 times over the course of the last several months in terms of proxies attacking u.s. personnel and u.s. bases? is that what we saw, that type of escalation, or they just happened to hit a place where there was actually personnel living? >> we don't know exactly right now if they thought this was going to be something different. the effect has been different because of the three personnel killed and 34 injured personnel that we know of so far. but you're forces have been attacked over 150 times since the start of the gaza-hamas war.
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the problem that we have in this particular area is the fact that the greater middle east is really part of a plan by the iranians to try to move all the u.s. forces out of here. and the reason they are attacking our forces is because they don't want us in this particular region. the fact they don't want us of course complicates things from a force protection standpoint for us and in fact one of the key things to note is all of these groups right here are possible perpetrators in this case. hezbollah is one of the key ones and has been implicated in many of the other things that have happened in this area. in fact we killed their leader back in 2020, so they would have reason to go after u.s. forces. >> colonel leighton, thank you. a key negotiator says there could be a border deal in the coming days. and house republicans over the weekend releasing two
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articles of impeachment against homeland security sent alejandro may mayorkas. we'll tell you what is in it, next.
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key negotiator says there is an agreement that could be ready
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for the senate floor in the coming days. but this is as donald trump is pressuring republicans to sink it entirely bragging that he is more than happy to take the blame. president biden still urging lawmakers to pass the legislation which he said would be the toughest and fairest set of reforms yet. lauren fox is joining us. politics aside, you walk through what is in the deal that we know of so far? >> this is one of the most conservative border packages i have seen senate negotiators come up with over the last several decades. and a couple of the policies that are included are raising the credible fear standard for people seeking asylum, giving the president whoever that person is more emergency authority to deal with the border to shut down the border. if migrant crossings reach a certain threshold. but it is still not enough for some republicans. a showdown on capitol hill as the bipartisan group of senators
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looks to pass an emerging border security plan during a presidential election year. >> we do have a bipartisan deal we're finishing the text right now. and the question is whether republicans will listen to donald trump who wants to preserve chaos at the border because he thinks that it is a winning political issue for him. >> reporter: one key factor to the proposed plan would be to allow the commander in chief to shut down the border between ports of entry when unlawful daily crossings average 4,000 over a one week span. a point spilling over on to the presidential dcampaign trail. >> if that bill was the law, i'd shut down the border right now. congress needs to get it done. >> reporter: and the republican frontrunner donald trump is encouraging senate republicans to vote against any border bill. >> a lot of the senators are trying to say respectfully they are blaming it on me, i said that is okay, please blame it on me. please. because they were getting ready to pass a very bad bill. and i'll tell you what, a bad
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bill is -- i'd rather have no bill than a bad bill. >> reporter: other components of the proposed plan include reforming the cia syasylum syst expedite work permits. >> this is a compromise, a negotiation, and that is what we're here to do. >> reporter: the lead senate republican negotiator is optimistic the plan can pass. other republicans are more sceptical. >> do not have a vote count yet because everybody aheahas to re it, but i feel positive about it. >> james is smart, he is hard dltd working. he is on a suicide mission. >> reporter: over in the house, two articles of impeachment were released against homeland securities secretary alejandro mayorkas. first, charging him with willful and systemic refusal to comply with the law. and second, breach of public
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trust. accusing him of making false statements. department of homeland security calling the upcoming impeachment vote a farce. >> 8 million encounters, 300 on the terror watch list, 200 million people dead now thanks to fentanyl poisoning that this one man is responsible for. i think that is a dereliction of duty. and we look to the founding fathers here. they didn't have a lot of federal criminal statutes. breach of the public trust is sufficient to impeach. >> reporter: and just to give you a sense of how difficult it will be for some republicans to support this plan, you saw over the weekend the oklahoma republican party condemning and censoring james lankford's actions as he negotiated the border deal, just a sichb some of how this conservative backlash is shaping up. >> it will be interesting to see if those who voted to condemn him know what is actually in the bill. lauren fox, keep us posted.
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with us now, analyst john avlon, jamal simmons and also polster lee carter. one of the other republican talking points across the sunday shows yesterday was biden already has this authority, why isn't he doing it, why isn't he closing the border. kristi noem was on with cghan b dana bash, talking about do something now. avoiding the real issue of what the republicans are getting in this deal, why do you think that is? >> i think republicans are saying this is biden's problem. so they are saying he has the authority do this, a law that is in place, their argument is that the immigrants must be detained until they are processed so why does it even have to be, why does there have to be a number that we allow in per day. and it wasn't this bad under trump is what they are trying to say. we don't nthneed to do anything
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else and tied it to ukraine. so for them , that is enough. i think from a voter sentiment perspective, that is what they are doing, saying it would be better under republicans. >> and there are powers that this would apparently -- what we know of it, we haven't led the text yet, but it would give biden more powers. for example an asylum statute. there are times when you have to grant people asylum and go through the process. it takes way too long now. this would shorten that, but if you change the credible fear standard, that does broaden the president's authority, no? >> it broadens the president's authority and you also have the ability to -- you also have the ability to make sure the afghans who we brought here after the afghan war so that they could get green cards. in is snag most people are in favor of because these people helped us when we were in the
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war in afghanistan. the problem for many people on the left, a lot of people wanted to see more production for dreamers. but it won't be in there. i think that there are business interests who wanted to see expanded guest worker programs. it won't be in there. a lot of democratic mayors are feeling this, but also others like donald trump don't even want legal immigration to continue at the same level. so that is the challenge for the people on the left. democrats where arguing with republicans to do things that democrats want to do, like fund ukraine, fund israel and have a tougher border. >> and this is an indication of the far right is actually outside the mainstream of american opinion, but disproportionate power in their political party. so it leads to grid lk. and i think the problem is the word bipartisan. trump and maga crew don't want bipartisanship.
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that is their form of original sin. even when dealing with an issue that they have elevated. i think most voters will smart and they will say if you say this is a crisis, we're being invaded, presumably you want to do something about it. only way to get something done in a divided congress is if you compromise together. and this is a center right deal by all indications. this doesn't deal with the dreamers, this is not sx comprehensive immigration reform, this is about getting tougher on the border and president biden says he welcomes this. so take the win. if you don't, you just want to dem demagogue the situation. and this is beyond bad faut. it faith. this is compounding the problem. we have to reason together unless your goal is to undermine functioning as a democracy. >> and i think this is the argue that will win with the moderates. nikki haley saying that do it. and so i think in the middle people are saying this is a big
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issue. if you look at immigration as the number one concern of americans today, it has had a seven point increase in sentiment as the most important issue over inflation and economy now. people are saying this is a crisis, get something done. i agree with you most people are saying let's get this done. but then a fair number of people support donald trump and the far right and who say we want the toughest and fairest deal and let's blow things up and no big is better than a bad bill. they will repeat his message. and -- >> it is insane. >> and history will tell you that the kind of far right position is the one that wins. gorn bu george bush and president obama tried do it when in office. all these different efforts over the years and they keep falling apart because people really i think look at it administer from t more from the political issue. >> even president trump was on the verge and then he nuked it
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himself. what trump is posting on his social media account, taking full credit for trying to kill this, and part of it as terrorists are pouring in, 100% chance that there will be a major terror attack in the u.s., which is a crazy thing for the presidential candidate to say. he says close the border. in an authority that biden could be given. and democratic president saying out loud i'll close the border immediately. three months ago that would have been disqualifying. now this is the reality. and yet -- >> and yet donald trump is winning for the republican nominee and he knows he has to -- he is running -- he is running for republican voters. >> when did it become a republican priority or talking point to say 100% of a terrorist attack? when did it become a priority to say we'll have a massive stock market crash, actively rooting against america should not be a rallying point.
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>> shouldn't be, but his perspective is that it is and it works for him. he gets his base rallied. >> that is a sickness, not a strength. >> i think that you have to defend him, but how do you win the rhetorical battle if you are james lankford oig, if you support the -- >> i think it is hard. when you look on the talking points, you see that he is optimistic but then next you are saying he is delusional. there are two different kinds of republicans. a moderate who believes in bipartisanship who wants to get things done and then the other side who says we have to blow things up and do things differently. >> you mentioned some of the demo democraticit ity priorities tha won't be in there. what is the message to democrats who don't support this? >> i think that they will make that clear to the president that they are not happy with it. but they also recognize this is a political year and you have the democratic mayors on the other side of this also pushing
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the president. >> so is your message to them take half a leoaf of bread? >> i think people will fight it out internally, but you will also see it work out for the democratic side also because there is israel funding in here and ukraine. like we keep -- immigration is very important, but if we don't figure out how to fund ukraine, we'll aid putin and his attempt to take over that country. >> i feel like that is a yes in a very diplomatic way. stay with us. match-up set. phil so happy this morning. the 9ers and chiefs are super bowl bound. >> you got to fight for your right to party! highlights of the championship games, disappointment in detroit and of course taylor swift's appearance ahead.
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-hey, your mom and i procreated to that song. oh, ew! i think you've said enough. why don't we just switch to xfinity like everyone else? then you would know what year it was. i know what year it is.
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the 49ers are going to the super bowl! >> just want that to ring in my ear repeatedly throughout the morning. you heard that right, the san francisco 49ers are back in the big game for the first time in four years. it will be a rematch of their last super bowl appearance against patrick mahomes, traf ch
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advice kelsey and the chiefs. >> coy wire was there. and i'm a huge detroit as a city fan. so i'm heartbroken for him, but also happy to sit next to a happy phil. so this is a good morning for me. >> is happy for you, phil. heartbroken for the city of detroit and the spirit of the statue back there with a jersey on it. quob gr congratulations to the lions. an aspiring season. you weren't even born yet the last time lions made it to the nfc title game, but a lifetime of waiting will last a little bit longer. super bowl dreams seemed like they could become a reality for these fans in detroit looking for their first trip to the big game franchise history. they stormed out to a 24-7 lead
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at halftime over the 49ers. but then let by the last pick in last year's nfl draft, the 49ers fought back. brock purdy and san francisco overcoming the largest halftime deficit in conference championship in history winning 34-31 in the nfc title game. >> just a testament to god and where he's taken me in life. i've never been the fastest, strongest. i always had to fight for what i get and work for what i get. >> reporter: lions fans heartbroken after and historic collapse. >> the heart is hurting. >> heartbroon. some things i don't understand why we didn't go for the field goal. as i look at the score, we blew a 17 point lead. >> i'm very proud of the team. the team hasn't came this far in ye years, boy.
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>> reporter: 49ers with a little bad blood facing patrick mahomes and taylor swift and rest of the chiefs headed to vegas too. kansas city making it to the super bowl for the fourth time in five years after defeating the baltimore ravens 17-10. mahomes on to his fourth super bowl in six seasons as a starter at just 28 years old. >> you never know 40how many you'll get to or if any. so truly is special. >> believe it, baby, we're going to las vegas, never to go get us another one? >> reporter: the victory for travis kelce sealed with a kiss from taylor swift. she's headed of a way around the world performing in japan the nice before the super bowl. swift expected to step off stage and require on to a plane for vegas with the time difference in tokyo, she should make it in plenty of time before kickoff. swifties rise up. american airlines created a
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plane flight number 1989, title of a taylor swift album. the return flight? 87. travis kelce's jersey number. and i'm so grateful to the show team and all the bosses that phil and poppy, they are sending you to vegas to join me at the super bowl. and you will do monday's show in vegas. >> we are? >> don't play with me. crust want to say it is great, after taylor swift ruined the chiefs season, they somehow managed to make it through to the super bowl. >> and already prop beth bets f taylor swift, will she be shown during the national anthem, how long will she be shown during the game. my question, will she make a cameo at the usher halftime performance. >> oh, i like that prop bet. >> true story that every time -- let me get this right. the 9ers had the ball after
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halftime, they scored points unless they were running out the clock. correct? >> yes, unblifable. and enough with the brock purdy slander. he dominates. he is a beast. 21-5 as a starter. phil knows this, come on, man. >> mr. irrelevant no more. so much sports this morning. i'm here for it. and turning the page here, overnight more countries moving to suspend their funding to a u.n. program operating in gaza after israel claims some u.n. employees in that program were also involved in hamas' october 7 terror attack. we have those details ahead. and voting technology smartmatic is accusing executives of possibly engaging in criminal activities while promoting 2020 election lies. a reporting you will see first onon cnn, thatat is ahead.d.
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this morning more countries have joined the united states and suspended funding to the u.n.'s main relief agency after israel has claimed 12 of their staffers were involved in the october 7 hamas terror attacks. austria, france and japan have joined the other nations on the screen of course the united states to pull funding from the agency fr at least for now.
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this provides critical humanitarian aid to hundreds of thousands of displaced palestinians. there are fears that funding pause would really harm that aid that they are able to bring. and at the same time israel is in new talks to secure a hostage deal and pause in fighting that had significant gaps after bill burns met with intelligence officials from israel, guitar and egypt in paris. jeremy, bill burns goes to paris for the talks. what are you hearing from israeli officials about where they stand right now? >> reporter: israeli prime minister's office says there was significant progress that was made during this meeting between the intelligence chiefs and as well as the prime minister of qatar describing it as constructive meeting but also saying there are significant gaps. one of those heading in to this summit in paris at least was the fact that hamas is seeking a
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total end to this war trying to salvage its position in the gaza strip while israel is only willing to offer up to a two month pause in the fighting in order to secure the release of those hostages. but there is no question that this is the most momentum that we have seen since the last truce that saw the release of dozens of hostages collapse in early december. when you look at the key players in the meeting, these are the same people who were able to get to the last deal back in late november that led to that week long pause in the fighting. and so now the question is how much longer will it take to close those remaining gaps and also we know that often the implementation side of these deals is often sometimes the trickiest part of this. so we'll see. but certainly ongoing meetings expected to happen this week including today with the prime minister of qatar sitting down with secretary of state antony blinken. >> and back to the reporting on whether this big u.n. aid program that operates in gaza, the "new york times" reporting that they have reviewed as do
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yea ts doier that details the role that they allegedly played. the fact this they see it credible enough to pull funding, what does that tell you? >> reporter: and this dossier provided to the "times" was initially provided to the united states and that is what seems to have led to the pause in the funding. and accusations are quite startling. one unrwa employees is accused of helping to kidnap an israeli woman, another set to help hand out ammunition on october 7, six of those employees based on their phones correspond to the israeli government were actually geolocated as within israel on october 7. several others are accused of being involved in that day's events, whether the massacre at
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several of theky ky can he be he be busses. and this is prompting more than a dozen countries at this point to suspend at least temporarily additional funding for unrwa at a time when of course aid in gaza, humanitarian aid, is critically needed. you look at the hundreds of thousands of people currently fays famine, the united nations secretary-general said he was horrified by the accusations and there is a hope that it won't ultimately stop the funding all together because again of the critical need in gaza at this moment. and nikki haley spent the weekend in her home state going after donald trump ahead of south carolina made or break primary. how long will she stay in the race? and also new cnn reporting on how joe manchin could single handedly upend president biden's re-election campaign. stay with us.
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and donald trump had a total meltdown. a total meltdown. he literally threw a temper tantrum on stage. he was clearly confused, right? i think that we need to have mental competency tests for anybody over the age of 75. i think we're getting under his skin. just saying. >> that was nikki haley spending the weekend on the campaign trail in her home state of south carolina where she's been ramping up her attacks on donald trump. >> the republican primary less than a month away, february 4. polls like this one from november show her trailing trump by a significant margin. let me ask you about the interview that nikki haley did yesterday which was i think telling in the fact that she said she has to do better in
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south carolina by a pretty significant margin than she does new hampshire. 11 point sxwap. y gap. ask can she close the gap? >> i don't see how. polling average 62.5 for trump, 29.2 for nikki haley. that is just not good. and another thing we're not talking about is her favorability ratings. she increased by ten points the last six weeks. she's gotten her groove, but still just a 47 point favorability rating. we're not talking about a hugely popular person and she is going to her home state where she's not looking good. i don't see how the math adds up for her. >> and this is probably sad state of affairs. i was struck yesterday in her interview on "meet the press" about what she said related to the e. jean carroll case which is a totoxic thing for republicans. and she said this. >> the jury has now ruled.
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they have found him liable of sexual abuse. do you not trust the jury and their findings, ambassador? >> i absolutely trust the jury. and i think that they made their decision based on the evidence. i just don't think that that should take him off the balance hot. i think the american people will take him off the ballot. >> give me a minute. former part was actually -- i was reading the transcript and i had to reread it because acknowledging and trusting the sdwrir, jury, that seems to be a rarity. but she's amped up her attacks on trump. >> from the democratic side, we so it a lot, women in the electorate who really don't feel comfortable with what donald trump is doing as a political leader. so she is associating herself i think with that cohort of voters. so taking on donald trump is really the only way to take down
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donald trump and she has to find some avenue to get at it and i think this is the one that she is choosing. >> and yet you seemed highly unimpressed. >> i think she's taken the fight to trump. i think it is a bit be slated. takes two person race. you are best playing offense rather than defense. what i was reacting to is the idea that the sexual assault judgment is not about disqualification of the ballot. that is about insurrection, a constitutional standard which i think folks have not had their eye on the ball on. but you look at the -- reason i don't think that it is a done deal, i'm familiar with south carolina politics, the poll was from november. a long way away from the closing of the field. is it uphill? yes. has she set a bar that she will have to be held to? yes. but trump has a way of especially as he is coming back in frontal lobe of people's minds, trying to keep him in the back and be in denial about
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this, all of a sudden people will have to confront his weakness as a general election sd candidate. the cdchaos were he to win. serious things that people need to take into account. so i think it makes sense to drama contest. >> and what is interesting about her saying i got it to do better in south carolina than new hampshire, but in the same breath i'm also staying in this through super tuesday. what did you make of that? >> i think that she has to that, right? ron desantis said he was in it too and then two days later he was out of it. but you have to act like you are in it for the long haul even if you know it is looking bad. money, fundraising and the confidence of voters. my question is what is the end game here. if she does perform better in south carolina, why i don't
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think that she can, will she be a third party candidate, set herself up for 2028? but i think she has found her groove, found her voice. she seems to be having fun more than she ever has before and, you know, it is just -- i think too little too late. >> and i have we're back down in south carolina with the largest flags you've ever seen. looks like general patton. >> and do you know who won? general patton won. so connect the dots. >> it is great. thank you guys very much. and big interview is coming up in our 8:00 hour. e. jean carroll and her attorney will join us live in studio after she was awarded more than $83 million in the defamation and sexual abuse automatic against donald trump. a new study finds tens of ththousands ofof pregnancicies e result o of rape.
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. happening today, the vice president kamala harris is making second stop for her fight
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for reproductive freedom stour, she is in california as they try to mobilize voters. >> and there have been nearly 65,000 rape related pregnancies in the 14 states that have enacted abortion bans since roe v. wade was overturned. and fewer than ten legal abortions each month in states with those bans. 65,000 rape related pregnancy, you fewer than 10 a month in each state. joining us is meg terrell. the numbers are jarring. walk us through the study. what were they keying on? >> that juxtaposition of facts you laid out, the fact that we know that fewer than 10 legal abortions are taking place each month in the states that have total abortion bans is really important. the researchers led by somebody from planned part hoodenthood s to try to understand people who are survivors of a rape but
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knowing so few legal abortions are happening, what options do they have. so there is not good data on this. they used data from the cdc, bureau of justice and fbi to look in those 14 states that have enacted total abortion bans including five states that you can see that have rape exceptions to estimate how many of the rape related pregnancies have happened and they got 65,000. so if you think that there are fewer than 10 legal abortions happening in those states per month, what they conclude is that people who have been raped and become pregnant cannot access legal abortions in their home state even in states with rape exceptions. so just puts numbers on this problem. >> it does. but as you point out, there are some holes in what data has been available. so what questions does the study not answer? you wouldn't know for example who sought an abortion or not. >> we don't know the outcomes of
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the pregnancies. this is the estimate of how many pregnancies happen. so possible that folks sttravel out of state, maybe medication abortion, possible that they carried them to term. one of the issues even in the five states with exceptions, they say exceptions are clearly not working and that could be bay they have requirements that the rapes are reported to law enforcement. we know a majority of survivors don't report rape. there are gestational limits as well. so all are contributing to the fact that even in states with sx epgs ises, exceptions are not working. >> but what we saw play out in the case of kate cox in texas. where the exceptions have limits. >> yeah, hearing over and over medical exceptions. >> thank you very much for following that. "cnn this morning" continues right now. three american soldiers killed and more than 30 injured in

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