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good morning, everyone. we are watching several major developments as tension rises in the region. hamas says it's studying a new proposal for a potential truce and hostage release deal but that the priority is the complete withdrawal of israeli
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forces from gaza. this comes after the negotiations in paris where negotiators agreed to a broad framework over the weekend. today, the families of the american hostages still being held will meet with jake sullivan at the white house. this is new surveillance video that shows undercover israeli special forces dressed as civilians and doctors storming a hospital in the west bank and killing three men. those men identified by both the idf and hamas as militants. the world is waiting to see how president biden will respond to a drone attack that killed three u.s. soldiers in jordan. the u.s. put the blame on iran-backed militants. the president is trying to respond forcefully without sparking a wider regional war. the u.s. response is likely to be more powerful than previous strikes in syria and iraq. we have team coverage. we start with jeremy diamond live in tel aviv with more on the hostage negotiations.
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what are you learning about the status of where those stand after the very significant paris talks? >> reporter: there are clearly ongoing meetings and discussions after the multiple parties involved in these negotiations, including israel, egypt, qatar and the united states, appear to have agreed to a broad framework for the next potential hostage deal. i want to talk to you a little bit about what is in the broad framework, according to our sources. phase one would involve the release of civilian hostages over a period of about six weeks. three palestinian prisoners released for every one israeli civilian released. a second phase of the deal which would involve the release of israeli soldiers who are also being held hostage by hamas as well as the bodies of some 28 israeli hostages who are believed to also be held as bargaining chips by hamas. there would be a higher ratio of palestinian prisoners released as part of the second phase of
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the agreement. the question is whether or not israel and hamas can overcome what the israeli prime minister's office described yesterday as significant gaps that still remain between the two sides. those significant gaps mainly center over whether or not the next hostage deal will ultimately lead to an end to this war between israel and hamas. that's exactly what hamas has been seeking as part of the broader agreement. they want to see israeli forces removed from gaza. they want to try to salvage their position in the gaza strip. hamas says it's now reviewing this framework that has been agreed to by the other parties. they say in a statement that they are, quote, in the process of studying it and submitting its response to it on the basis the priority is to stop the aggression, brutal attack on gaza and the complete withdrawal of the occupation forces from the strip. the leader of hamas has been invited to review the proposal
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with egyptian authorities. >> let's play this video of israeli special forces dressed as civilians, some as doctors, going into this hospital. what is happening here? >> reporter: it's remarkable footage. you can see the forces disguised. one is carrying a baby carrier or child car seat as they move throughout this hospital, weapons drawn. we are told they infiltrated the hospital to target palestinian militants affiliated with the brigade, a combination of palestinian militant forces inside the west bank. they killed those three militants, hamas and the israeli military agreeing on that set of facts. the israeli military says they were actively involved in planning further attacks. they say one man who they apparently targeted was
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transferring weapons and ammunition to terrorists. they say he was planning an imminent terrorist attack in the immediate future. we, of course, cannot independently confirm that. the hospital for its part says one of the men was being -- receiving treatment for his injuries. it's important to note that hospitals are traditionally protected spaces under international law, unless they are being used by militants or armed forces to carry out military activity. >> jeremy diamond in tel aviv. we have new information on the deadly drone attack on u.s. soldiers in jordan. what more are we learning about the strike and how the u.s. is thinking about its response? >> reporter: we are learning more about what may have happened here that allowed that drone to hit the living quarters of the base called tower 22 in northeast jordan, on the border with syria. apparently, there was a bit of confusion about who this enemy
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drone actually belonged to. at the same time, or roughly the same time it was approaching the base, an american drone was also approaching the base returning from a mission. there was a little bit of delay in responding to that enemy drone because there was confusion about who it belonged to and whether it was friend or foe. that drone was flying low. that may have allowed it to evade the base's air defenses. questions about whether there need to be changes made to the early warning systems and air defense systems to prevent this from happening again. there are 350 u.s. army and air force personnel that are regularly stationed at that base. in terms of who carried out this attack, it's still unclear. the u.s. has pointed the finger squarely at iran-backed militias. they have not said which militant group actually carried out this attack. that is what the biden administration is studying as they prepare a response.
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>> what can you tell us about the three victims -- well, more than 40 injured, but the three who were killed, the three u.s. service members killed in this attack? we know more about them this morning. >> reporter: that's right. the defense department did release the names of the three u.s. army soldiers who were killed in this drone attack. they are william rivers, kennedy sanders and brianna moffet. the families spoke a little bit about how they want their daughters to be remembered. take a listen. >> service and the commitment and sacrifice she made for the country. >> even though her time was short on earth, she lived her life to the full et. she enjoyed her life. >> make sure she knew how much we loved her. we never wanted her to feel alone.
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we will always be right there by her side. >> reporter: there were 40 u.s. service members injured in this attack. eight had to be medically evacuated out of jordan to baghdad. three of those are now recovering in germany. the rest of them, primarily have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries. joining us now to discuss is dave harden. thanks very much for being here. the decision the white house now has to make, how do you make that decision in a way that is effective? because the attempted deterrence hasn't worked so far. but also does not tangle the united states up in a much broader regional war further than it is already tangled up. >> well, good morning. i think one of the first things the administration needs to take
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into account is that the enemy gets a vote on whether they are at war or expanding the conflict. clearly, iran is doing that at this point. the administration has to consider the wheat when they st back, doing proxy groups is not enough. at this point, we need to look at what can we target in iran that's going to allow us to be able to not only eliminate a threat but also have a longer term deterrent affect? it's going to have to be multi-pronged. it's going to have to involve more than just kinetic forces. we are going to make sure our allies are in the region. we have to look at iran proper and not just proxy groups in the region. >> looking at iran proper, something a handful of republican senators have said directly since this weekend to do, that would certainly mean a response from iran, would it not? is there a world in which you see any kind of strike that
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would not invite a response from iran? >> it may invite a response from iran. look at the consequences of what's happened to date when we haven't struck iran struck. we struck at proxy groups. there has been no deterrent affect on iran's ability to project power and destabilize throughout the region. clearly, the approach we have had over the last several weeks and months has not worked. our ability to contain iran in what they're doing throughout the middle east. >> to that point, can you game out what would happen -- to be very clear, the u.s. officials have said while a strike in iran proper is not off the table, it's not in the realm of what they are considering at this moment, at least within iran. were that to happen, walk through what happens next. >> yeah. look, the families that we just saw, it breaks our hearts.
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there has to be a strong deterrence and strike against iran. if we hit iran proper, we have to understand that the enemy has a vote as well. iran will respond. i think what happens is that we then become distracted in the middle east while we have russia on the doorsteps of kyiv and we have china looking very closely at taipei. ultimately, what we need to do -- it's a tough one -- is to strike, contain and deter iran. but i'm not convinced that right now is the time to hit iran proper. you can hit iranian assets in the sea or you can hit iranian interests and you must couple this with sanctions and political pressure. we have to have a strong strike. but in iran proper, that's an escalatory risk. >> do you think that would be
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enough? the combination of more sanctions and these strikes that are not in iran proper? >> i think it would be if we strike in a manner that makes sure that it has a deterrent affect. if we were to target, for example, the ship that's providing targeting information to the houthi rebels, if we were to increase maritime interdiction operations. first and foremost, let's go back and put into place the pre-jcpoa or iran nuclear agreement sanctions and tighten them further. that has to be done in coordination with our european allies. it would take us away from the direct attack into iran. nonetheless, we need to make it so painful to iran that they, in fact, will not continue these attacks on american forces in the region. that's the bottom line in this particular instance. >> i want to ask, because we have you, we reported yesterday on the u.n. relief agency,
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there's an israeli dossier that led several countries to pause funding because some of the u.n. relief agency employees participated in the october 7 attacks. because of that pause, there's significant concerns about the humanitarian crisis that's ongoing in gaza. can you explain to people what that pause will mean and your reaction when you saw that some of the employees had been im implicated in participating in the attacks? >> we are facing some hard truths here. it's true that it is structurally flawed and needs massive reform. at the same time, we are on the brink of a famine in gaza with 2.3 million people at risk. here are our only options. one is to continue with them and to release those funds and to reform it concurrently. the second is for the israelis,
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who have a duty of care under international law, to provide the health, education, the food and the assistance to the civilian population. or three, it's time to bring in the palestinian authority under some kind of international trustee arrangement to begin that. all of these options are difficult. netanyahu opposes all of them. >> one of the many complicating factors as we have been discussing. we appreciate your expertise. thank you. this morning, we are hours away from a rare moment on capitol hill as republican lawmakers push to impeach homeland security mayorkas. we will have the new response from mayorkas calling the push baseless and inaccurate. that's next.
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this morning, mayorkas is in the crosshairs of the house homeland security committee as it readies to take up articles of impeachment against him. the two articles accuse him of refusing to comply with the law and breaching the public trust. over the historic surge this coming of the migrants at the southern border. democrats have rallied to defend mayorkas. they called it a sham by hardliners. law lauren fox joins us from washington. this is not something that normally happens. are republicans in line? if one or two decide they don't want to be a part of this, this isn't moving forward on the house floor. >> reporter: that's right.
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this is the narrowest of margins. right now, republican leadership is warning, they are going to get to the whipping operation after this moves through the committee, and that's what's happening in just a little over two hours. what we expect this morning is that republicans and democrats are going to engage in fireworks as they move forward with mashmash i -- marking up the two articles. this is the first time this has happened many more than 100 years. democrats are arguing it's not mayorkas who created this immigration crisis that's been going on for decades. mayorkas urged republicans in a letter that if they wanted to fix the immigration system, they could look across the capitol at the united states senate where there's antic emerging deal happening. assuming -- we guess this is going to pass out of committee later today. once that does happen, the fight becomes over whether the votes are there on the floor. most republicans are coming out
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supportive of moving forward with impeaching mayorkas, including don bacon, a republican from a swing district in nebraska. there are others who are still on the fence. here is tom mcclinton in november. >> mayorkas is guilty of neglect of duties, so if they are successful in redefining impeachment, the next time the democrats have the majority, we can expect this definition to be turned against conservatives on the supreme court and any future republican administration. >> house speaker mike johnson said he does plan to bring this to the floor swiftly after the committee approves it. then if it passes in the house of representatives, it heads over to the senate where there's a major question of whether or not mayorkas would be convicted. that chamber controlled by democrats. there's a lot of skeptical republicans over there that are
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saying that moving forward with impeachment against mayorkas, they don't see this warranting high crimes and misda emisdemea. >> i will not ask you when the text is coming. i may ask you later today. lauren fox, thank you. a new effort to prevent deep fakes from fooling you. >> it's important that you save your vote for the november election. voting this tuesday only enables the republicans in their quest to elect donald trump again. >> what you just heard was not president biden but an ai-generated d robocall. how a new bill could fight back against that, next.
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democrats in congress fighting robocalling with legislation after a fake call that impersonated president biden, targeted thousands of new hampshire voters. it would expand what a robocall is. it would include artificially generated or pre-recorded messages. it would double fines for violators. efforts to regulate ai has been getting attention lately but not a lot of action on capitol hill. our next guest introduced a bill last may that would make non-consensual deep fake images a crime. his bill has been stalled in committee for months. after deep fakes of taylor swift sparked outrage over the weekend, there's a push to take action. joining me is that democratic congressman, joe morell of new york. you have been working on this
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for years, certainly before this latest call it attempt and what they have done to taylor sweift >> i became concerned about this when i was a member of the new york state legislature. we passed a law that prohibited the use of people's images and likenesses without their consent. when i got to congress, i wanted to continue to work on this and recognize that these tools are continuing to be developed and refined and made easier to use. what happened unfortunately to miss swift is happening to thousands of women across the country every day. the legislation is intended to give them protections to make it a federal crime if you post without someone's consent artificially derived images or created by artificial intelligence. these deep fakes are dangerous. they are traumatic to women. they can cause representational, financial harm, not to mention
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the mental anguish they go through. >> i read through your bill. it's not long. it's 11 pages. anyone can look through it. it includes a potential big fine but also imprisonment up to ten years. you said posted. if someone unknowingly posts something made by someone else, would you be subject to this as well? >> it is your responsibility to make sure -- >> knowing if they are real or not. let's move on. as part of your work on this, over years, you are not really focusing on celebrities. you are focusing on people that don't get a platform and don't get the attention. for example, high schoolg girls in new jersey who have been victims of this. talk about what you have seen. >> we had a courageous young women who came to washington just a couple of months ago in december to talk about her experience in new jersey where
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she -- she's 14. she and classmates had images posted by what we believe were other students in the school. fran francesca, who is incredibly strong and her mom who came to testify and talk about how their experience has been. again, this is traumatic. for celebrities -- i'm grateful the issue is being talked about. i'm sorry for what taylor swift has gone through. thousands and thousands of women. when people are thinking about this, this could be your daughter, your sister, your mom, anyone can use these. with the advance of these tools, it has made it so much easier than to do even just a couple of years ago. >> it was interesting, a couple of days ago the ceo of microsoft, who huge in this space, sat down with lester holt from nbc. here is part of that.
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>> i go back to our responsibility, all of the guardrails we need to place around the technology so there's more safe content being produced. there's a lot to be done and being done there. we can do it. especially when you have law and law enforcement and tech platforms that can come together. we can govern more than we give ourselves credit for. >> do you agree, we can govern, whether it's tech companies doing what they need to do, but also congress can govern this and make regulations? many people say, they don't understand it. that may be true. but there's more action that can be taken now, is there not? >> there's absolutely more action that can be taken. look, we will work with industry partners to develop those standards. clearly, it's going to take the congress, it's going to take our law enforcement agencies and the private sector to build these safeguards. then to make sure they are enforced and we protect people. >> a couple other topics.
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we haven't had you on before. you have 61 democratic colleagues in the house who called for a cease-fire now between israel and hamas. i wonder where you are on that. is it time for a cease-fire? >> well, i think the negotiations that are underway right now -- i understand hamas military is considering a proposal that's been advanced by secretary blinken and others that would create a six-week cease-fire. to me, until you talk about the release of hostages who have been held now since october 7th, there's really no point in having further discussions. i hope those negotiations prove fruitful. >> the response you think the biden administration should take to iran given the three u.s. service members whs who have be killed? >> there's got to be a response. we all believe that. the goal is to make sure it's appropriate, which doesn't enlarge and escalate the crisis and take away from the work that we need to do to stop the
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fighting in gaza and return hostages. >> would that mean you would not be supportive of a strike within iran proper at this point? >> yeah, i mean, i will be guided by our military commanders who make recommendations to us. from my perspective, striking iran proper causes real concerns about the escalation of the war. i don't think that's something people want. there are other ways to ensure that we respond properly and forcefully. >> congressman, thank you very much. we will keep an eye on your legislation, if it gets traction now. >> thank you. up next, we will take you inside a research facility the public has never seen before but could be central to the future of medicine. scientists reveal how genetically-modified pigs could solve a critical organ shortage cr crisis. >> we need organs from something else other than humans dying. >> are animals the answer? >> i think animals are the
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answer to that.
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now to a cnn exclusive. each day 17 people in the u.s. die waiting to get a new organ. what if there was another source of organs beyond humans? dr. sanjay gupta got incredible rare access to a research farm that's hoping to fill the gap with the help of pigs. yes, pigs. sanjay, to ask the very obvious question, could pigs actually be the future of human organ transplants? >> after putting it all together, i think the answer is yes. you are about to see why. this is pretty incredible
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science. there's been a long history of pigs helping with human health, for example, pig valves for example being used in hearts. we are talking about something that's far more transformative here, possibly changing the way we think about transplantation overall. take a look. these pigs could one daypr prove an endless supply of organs. what you are watching at this research facility has never been seen by the public before. >> we try to limit this to the staff that takes care of the animals. we rarely let other folks come in. >> mike curtis is my guide. he is ceo of the company devoted to raising pigs to try and solve the organ shortage crisis. >> everything is controlled, all of the feed is clean, water is clean. the staff is clean. we try to maintain a very clean
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environment here. >> i walked into a room, turned on a filter, cleaned the air for five minutes before i could then go shower. that's why my hair is wet. i washed myself. i put on everything new here, including underwear, socks, shoes, everything just to be in this room. gives you an idea how clean it is in here and how important that is. it's more than i do to prep for the operating room. all of it to protect the pigs from us. i did not know what to expect. it's powerful just to be here with these pigs. >> these two and those three and the little guy here, they are fully edited. all these pigs have 69 edits. >> that makes them tamong the most agagenetically modified one planet.
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>> our approach is three-pronged. we are trying to reduce the risk of disease transmission. we are editing in a way that reduces or eliminates rejection. we add genes to control rejection. >> they do all of this with the help of crisper, the gene editing tool that allows scientists to manipulate the cell's dna, knocking out or adding in genes. in this case, to make a pig's organs more compatible with the human recipient. >> we establish a cell line and use cloning to produce consistent donors. it's akin to what was done with dolly in the '90s. >> it's essentially a modern day assembly line of standardized genetically modified pigs. >> we selected the mini-pig because they are 70 kilos, 150 pounds. the organs are correctly sized for human recipients. >> as much as we talk about the
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intricate science of gene editing, you have to get the size right. >> that's right. >> less than 1% of the people who die every year die in a way that they could ever even be considered as organ donors. even if you optimize everything, there still wouldn't be enough organs. >> this man is the director of the transplant institute at nyu. he is the recipient of a heart transplant. >> i had a heart transplant five years ago. i had seven cardiac arrests. i still wasn't sick enough to be able to draw an organ. >> that experience became a rallying cry for him. >> we need a sustainable, renewable source of organs from something else other than humans dying. >> are animals the answer to that? >> i think animals are the answer to that. >> specifically, pigs. besides the size similarities,
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pigs also have several piglets with each pregnancies, making them a scaleable source of organs. one day you might see facilities like this all over the country. >> we have been doing research for decades. >> pig organs into monkeys. >> doing gene edits. that work has progressed. there was still this question of, are those results translatable to a human? >> had we learned everything there was? >> i think there were did i palest -- diminishing returns. >> the fda wasn't ready to give the green light. what if the first human recipient was brain dead?
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>> you could see what the response would be. >> on september 25, 2021, montgomery performed the first ever gennetically modified pig kidney transplant into a brain dead human. it worked. for 54 hours. each time they tried, the results got better and better. >> we have done this five times. the first four, two kidneys and two hearts, were for three days. the last kidney was two months. >> he and his team shared the findings from the last patient with me. >> see that red? that's hemorrhage. we had a mild rejection. we were able to test to make sure that we can treat that using conventional anti-rejection drugs. >> then in january of 2022 for first time in history, a team at the university of maryland medical center transplanted a genetically modified pig heart
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into a living human being, someone not brain dead. it was allowed by the compassionate use pathway for experimental treatments. something used when a patient has no other options left. >> a patient facing death. why wouldn't you try? >> how far are we to this becoming a reality? >> i think for the right patient, we will see it in the next couple of years. >> pigs that could save human lives. >> these are large whites. we use these to do the embryo transfer. >> i never expected to feel like i was immersed in a really scientific sort of place in the middle of a pig barn. >> it's the equivalent of five or six knobel prizes. we integrate all of those to make this a reality. >> what you saw there, as you heard, could become a reality within the next few years. providing this endless supply of
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organs. it's not without challenges. how much should we be manipulating the genome of another species? how much should we rely on animals to save human health? there's ethical questions. we couldn't tell you where that research facility was because there's so many security concerns around these ethical questions. this is happening. this is changing the way we think about transplantation. m if you need a kidney transplant, yes. what if you are on dialysis, not needing a transplant? that could change your life. that's what the scientists are talking about. >> does it raise the question of who gets a human transplant and who gets an animal one? if the animal ones don't last as long, for example. >> that's a great question. i don't know the answer to that. i will tell you this, the goal is ultimately to have these animal organs, these pig organs specifically, be basically the same as human organs in terms of
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how they genetically are accepted and not rejected by the human body. >> it's fascinating. sanjay gupta, thank you. >> you got it. a new twist overnight. a doping scandal for russian ice skaters. super bowl ticket prices are breaking records. we will explain next.
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new this morning, an olympic doping controversy on the ice ends with a gogolden finish for the usa. the u.s. will be named the champions. we will explain how this is
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happening now. russia won but will fall to third because an independent sport tribunal rules a 17-year-old russian figure skating broke anti-doping rules before the games and banned her for four years. >> at the time, she was 15 and tested positive for a heart medication that can boost endurance. it came to light during the games and raised questions about how russia and the coaches treat and train young athletes. joining us is nathan chen, a member of the 2022 u.s. figure skating team. he is the first olympic skater in the u.s. to win two gold medals in a single olympics. a little belatedly we discovered that. we appreciate your time. your response when you -- what did you think when you saw this play out yesterday? >> yeah, i'm just so excited for this team. this team has shown so much dedication throughout their
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career. i don't know any group of people that deserves this more. they have held themselves incredibly well through this time of indecision and represented themselves in the u.s. so well. >> what does it say about a level playing field? >> yeah. we competed clean for the entirety of our careers. every substance we put in our bodies is cleared before we consider taking them. without clean sport, the integrity of the sport is diminishes. there's nuanced situations. this decision is certainly a win for clean sport. however, the fact that this happened is a win for no one. >> was there a thought or a feeling that this may have been occurring? i don't feel like -- i assume inside the sport, this stuff isn't happening without people knowing about it before it becomes public, before somebody fails a test, before we reach this point. were there concerns or had there been concerns about this issue leading up to 2022?
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>> to my knowledge -- i speak for myself -- i was not aware. my focus was on competing, was on performing the best i could. again, as for a clean sport, in my particular situation, i was very focused on ensuring every subscription i put in my body wl was all cleared before i could take it. that was my primary concern. outside of that, i was not aware. >> let's talk about where the sport is going. this weekend a record was broken for the largest leading margin in the short program at the u.s. championships. went on to a second straight championship by landing a quad a axel. talk about where the sport is going. i competed as a low level in minnesota. it was just triples. then the men started doing quads. then it was a quad toe loop. now a quad axel, 4 1/2
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rotations. what does that mean for the sport? >> it means the sport will continue expanding and growing. i'm excited to see how the sport continues growing. we know that there's no ceiling. it's going to keep growing. >> are we going to see you doing it? are we going to see you back on the ice? >> my focus has been on academics. i find myself at the rink. it's a good time to find myself back out there. we will see what happens. right now i'm excited to see where the sport is going. >> we congratulate you and your team belated but no less awesome. nathan chen sh , appreciate you time. >> thanks for having me. inside the reelection campaign for president biden, how taylor swift could help them.
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we will explain next.
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a live look at the stadium where the super bowl will kick off. if you are hoping to get a ticket, dip way into your savings or beyond. the average price for a single
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ticket, $9,800. up 70% from last year according to the ticket website tick pick. the cheapest seat is $8,300. >> someone who doesn't worry about ticket prices, taylor swift. it's assumed she will make the trip from tokyo to vegas to see the game after her concert. her support for her boyfriend is sparking bonkers conspiracy theories. >> the latest is swift, the nfl, the white house conspireing to get biden re-elected. that's a conspiracy theory. "the new york times" is reporting the biden campaign is targeting celebrities and social media stars for potential endorsements. swift at the top of the wish list. that was a big windup to the interesting things you will tell us. how much influence does she have? >> i just want to point out, taylor swift is popular among
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all voters. her favorable rating is 70%. i want to focus in on those 18 to 29-year-olds where she has a favorable rating of 72%. why am i focusing in on that group? joe biden is struggling athong of the this group. in 2020, he won this group overwhelmingly. now look at that margin. it's down to 2 points. one of the worst performances joe biden has in the polls right now relative to what he had back in 2020. taylor swift is very popular among the group. >> explain taylor swift's prior involvement in politics. >> she has talked about it. i will note that if we look back -- marsha blackburn won that race. nationally, new registrations
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swift may have driven, over 30,000 new voter registrations in 2018. keep in mind this, she has 280 million instagram followers. why is that important? why are instagram followers important? i want you to look here. 18 to 29 years, where do they get their news from sometimes? television, which we are on right now, just 41%. look at social media, this is where the 18 to 29-year-olds are. 69% sometimes get their news from social media. the idea behind swift, she's really popular, she has a lot of instagram followers. let's get her out there focusing in on joe biden saying, vote for joe biden, because she can reach a large audience where 18 to 29-year-olds get their news. >> the national electorate is different than tennessee. >> very far to the right. medium voter, more

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