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>> chita is, hello, how are you. it's so nice to be here. delores is, what is it you want? it's a darker side. i believe delores is responsible for me having a career. she's the guts. >> reporter: rivera whose father was puerto rican became a triple threat blazing a trail for other latinas. . in 2002, she was the first latina to earn a kennedy center honor. >> she has broken barriers under broadway lights -- >> reporter: and awarded the presidential medal of freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor in 2009. ♪ she worked into her 80s most recently appearing in netflix "tick tick boom" a 2020 film directed by lin-manuel miranda who told cnn she was the trail
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blazer for puerto rico on broadway. she was an absolute original. she was magnificent. she is magnificent. not ready for the past tense just yet. a legend lost but a legacy that will live forever. elizabeth wag meister, cnn, los angeles. >> what a woman. "cnn this morning" continues right now. ♪ secretary mayorkas has had three years to protect our borders since he's failed to do his job. it's time to impeach. >> it requires a high crime or misdemeanor. my view secretary mayorkas has not committed that. >> there might not be a bipartisan border deal. >> i heard speaker johnson saying it is absolutely dead. which is what i wanted to hear. >> maga republicans are walking away from a bipartisan deal because donald trump ordered them to do so. president biden says he decided how the u.s. will respond to the deadly drone attack that killed three americans in jordan. >> every expectation is that
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this will be more powerful than the u.s. strikes we have seen in iraq and syria to this point. >> the question, of course, is how he can do that without further escalating the situation in the middle east. >> trump spent approximately $50 million in donor money on legal bills and investigation-related expenses. >> these numbers are not going to get smaller. how much he will be able to continue to pay remains to be seen. ♪ good wednesday morning, everyone. it's the top of the hour. i'm phil mattingly with poppy harlow in new york. brand new this morning, house republicans late overnight plowing ahead with trying to impeach president biden's border chief, all while simultaneously lining up to try to kill the most substantial bipartisan border security package in decades. in that early morning vote, house republicans advanced to articles of impeachment against alejandro mayorkas, it's an effort some constitutional scholars say is questionable as
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best. democrats calling it a sham. >> the real reason we are here, as we all know, is because donald trump wants to run on immigration. >> because you bend the knee to the orange jesus, as you refer to him! >> they don't want progress. they don't want solutions. they want a political issue. and most of all, they want to please their disgraced former president. >> house speaker mike johnson is pushing back on the notion that he would kill the senate's border deal to help trump in his presidential run. but trump keeps saying the quiet part outloud. >> there is zero chance i will support this horrible open borders betrayal of america. a lot of senators are trying to say, respectfully they're blaming it on me. that's okay. please blame it on me. please. >> are you simply trying to kill this to help him out on the campaign? >> no. manu, that's absurd. our majority is small.
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we only have it in one chamber, but we're trying to use every ounce of leverage that we have to make sure that this issue is addressed. i have talked to former president trump about this issue at length. and he understands that. he understands that we have a responsibility to do here. >> one note, no question manu asks is ever absurd. we have team coverage this morning. let's start with lauren fox on the hill. all right, what does this all mean, lauren? where are we? >> reporter: yeah. obviously house republicans marching toward trying to impeach mayorkas. the question now is do they have the votes? they have that narrow two-seat majority which means they do have work to do to ensure they have republicans lining up, backing this effort. i asked mark green, the chairman of the homeland security committee about this yesterday, and he acknowledged that there was still some work to do. but then on the other side of the capitol, you have a critical day today as senate republicans are trying to decide how they want to move forward with what was described in the last
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several weeks by republican leadership as the best opportunity they've had in decades to do something on the southern border. we still don't have bill text right now of that emerging bipartisan immigration deal. i asked chris murphy about this yesterday on capitol hill. and he said, right now republicans need to decide if they want to move forward or if they don't. he slankford is sticking by the deal they have been working on. republican leadership needs to make a decision. we know from our colleague's reporting, republican leaders were grappling with this essential question. do they try to continue to link ukraine aid, taiwan aid, israel aid with this border security provisions they want to include or given the backlash against this border deal, do they cut -- do they cut it out of the deal and basically move forward with just the ukraine aid, israel aid and taiwan aid. those are the questions that republican leadership has to answer this morning.
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>> right. doesn't seem like they have clear answers, at least at the moment. priscilla to you at the white house. in terms of where dhs, where the white house is both on the impeachment effort but also on that bipartisan effort related to immigration. what are you hearing from advisers right now about their strategy moving forward? >> reporter: well, they were prepared for this moment to happen. there have been meetings between senior white house aides and senior homeland security officials for weeks leading up to this impeachment vote, including conversations between homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas and biden advisers. and the white house has slammed these efforts, saying that there's no crimes or misdemeanors, no high crimes or misdemeanors here and also citing legal experts saying there's no there there. the potential unraveling of this border deal which we have seen no text yet has opened up a window of opportunity for democrats. in conversations that lauren and i have had with sources, they say that they see an opportunity here to seize on border
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security, go on the offensive on border security. that's something that we haven't seen democrats do and frankly probably wouldn't have been a thought just three months ago. but now they see an opportunity to hammer republicans in deciding not to take what they say is a tough deal. this is a deal that includes conservative wish list items but that now they're backing off of. and president biden has said and has asked congress to move on immigration reform over the weekend. he said that he would be willing to shut down the border if given the authority. all of these are notable moments that speak to democrats really seizing on an issue that up until this point they had not been this tough on publicly. phil, poppy. >> priscilla, thank you. lauren, appreciate it. we'll get back to you soon. coming up in a few minutes, house majority whip tom emmer joins us with his perspective on all this and the votes are there on mayorkas. there's a lot to talk to him about. >> yeah, no question. so president biden told reporters yesterday that he's made up his mind on how the u.s. will respond to that drone attack that killed three
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american service members in jordan over the weekend. listen. [ inaudible question ] >> yes. >> but the president didn't really elaborate on what that response might look like. for that, let's turn to steve anderson. we appreciate your time this morning. can you walk us through what options may be on the table right now. >> well, thank you, phil and poppy. whatever military options we execute, we also need to combine that with economic and political sanctions that haven't worked. but thus far, you know, we need to make sure it's a collaborative effort. but if we're looking at military options, i see more significant military options. the first would be a one-day attack, very similar to what we did in yemen a couple of weeks ago. this would be attack in which we would essentially target within syria and within iraq these iranian proxies that are out there that we know they're out there. this would be a significant attack. we would use f-16s, f-18s and
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use tomahawk missiles, precision attacks against single targets. now the second option i see is that same approach but now multiple attacks over several days, perhaps even weeks. this would be intent to destroy all military capabilities. now the attacks that we did back in yemen we saw weren't particularly effective. you see you have to execute a campaign. and this would be extensive. this would involve perhaps hundreds of precision-guided munitions and hundreds of aircraft over multiple days, perhaps even weeks. the third option that i see would be to attack iranian assets outside of iran. now, there is historic precedent for this. operation praying mantis 36 years ago which president reagan ordered the united states to attack iranian sea assets in the persian gulf, they actually succeeded in sinking five ships to include a frigot. this is the first time since world war ii that the navy
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actually sunk a large sea craft. and this would be a response that we could execute in the persian gulf. and finally, option four. this is attacking iranian assets within iran. there's all kinds of assets that we could go after, but i would suspect that we would go after the revolutionary guard headquarters, go after perhaps some oil assets, maybe even some nuclear production assets. but this means we're at war with iran. and this would be a very, very serious option that would have all kinds of implications. >> so then what one do you think would be most effective in terms of serving as an actual deterrent while not putting the u.s. at war with iran? >> my recommendation is option two. i think this achieves the most military impact, what we're looking for objectively militarily. but at the lowest risk at expanding the war. we cannot afford to have another
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war the middle east. i fought over in iraq and afghanistan. and the united states is not ready for this. but when you get right down to it, these attacks against iran and their responses to us are going to continue until we find a solution on the gaza strip. that's why i support a two-party solution. this is really the only way that can end this tit for tat that no doubt we're going to find ourselves in over the coming weeks and months. >> general steve anderson, we appreciate your time. thank you. warning from top officials increasing on the damage that abandoning ukraine would have at this point in the war. nato secretary general joins us next to discuss. breaking news into cnn a man has been arrested for murder in pennsylvania after a very troubling video was posted on social media. the details just coming in. we'll bring you the latest. ♪
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♪ welcome back. cia director bill burns issuing a new warning about the tough battle ukraine faces this year in the war against russia and the danger of the united states
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abandoning its support for ukraine. burns writing in a new column, quote, for the u.s. to walk away from the conflict at this crucial moment and cut off support to ukraine would be an own goal of historic proportions. this is a decisive week for ukraine funding as lawmakers battle over a border deal that would unlock $60 billion in critical assistance to ukraine. hours after speaker mike johnson told house republicans that the border deal has, quote, no way forward. he and other congressional leaders met with nato secretary yen yens stoltenberg. he is in washington trying to convince lawmakers and donald trump's allies to approve funding for ukraine. he will face a skeptical audience at heritage. the house should strongly oppose aid to ukraine. when the european union lags far behind the u.s. in its military
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assistance to ukraine should be required to fund greater levels of aid for ukraine. just a point of fact, the u.s. has given more military aid to ukraine than its eu counterparts but since this conflict started the eu has given more total aid to ukraine by about 59 billion euros more. but speaker johnson and other republicans have made similar arguments against the aid. listen to this. >> there are important questions that must be answered so that we can continue with these negotiations. among those is what is the objective? what is the end game in ukraine. >> they have made no significant progress despite hundreds of billions of dollars of american aid. is another $100 billion really going to accomplish anything, or will it take ukraine further down the pathway of becoming effectively a dependent of the united states of america? >> are you worried about the implications if russia wins? >> well, everybody keeps saying they're going to continue to go across europe. they can't beat ukraine on the eastern side. how will they go the rest of the
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way through europe? i never believed that scenario. >> welcome to the program. just earlier this week you said, quote, i'm confident that all nato allies including the united states will continue to provide support to ukraine. i wonder if you are still confident in that after your meeting with speaker johnson yesterday? >> yes. i continue to expect that also the united states will find a way to support ukraine because that is in the security interest of the united states. if president putin wins in ukraine, it will embolden him but also other authoritarian leaders to use military force. today it is ukraine. tomorrow it could be taiwan. and when i visited the hill yesterday, i met many politicians from both parties. and i saw broad support for ukraine but then of course there's this link to the border
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issue which i respect is an important and difficult issue but i believe it's possible to find a way forward to support ukraine regardless of how the border issue is handled. >> if you could take us inside that meeting with speaker johnson, what did he say that made you so confident? that this would be separated and he thinks the border deal has no path forward, so it would be separate and that funding would come for ukraine? >> well, the speaker and i we agreed the joint statement where we clearly stated that president putin must not win the war in ukraine. and the only way to prevent president putin from winning is to provide support. we all hoped for more advances in the -- we need to remember the whole thing started, when the full fledge invasion happened in 2022. most experts expected that russia could take control over kyiv in days and the rest of
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ukraine within weeks. that did not happen. ukraine has liberated 50% of the land russia occupied in the beginning. over the corridor in the black sea, pushing back the russian fleet. and they are inflicting heavy losses on the russian armed forces. so with a fraction of the u.s. defense budget, significant combat capabilities the russian army has been destroyed. so our support is making a difference on the ground everyday. >> how long -- you just met with president zelenskyy last month. how long do you estimate ukraine has on the battlefield if more u.s. support does not come? >> it's very hard to predict. and of course they have the will, they have the commitment to defend their own land. and the european allies are ready to continue to support. if you add military and economic aid, european allies and canada have provided much more support
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than the united states. gdp, almost all allies are providing more support than the u.s. but of course the u.s. is essential. and therefore it is important that those in the u.s. make a decision to continue to support, also knowing that most of this money is actually spent in the unite procuring weapons, ammunition from u.s. defense producers. and there are both strengthening the u.s. defense tri and making us all more secured by supporting ukraine. >> and also explain why one of your stops on this trip is going to be lockheed martin, one of the major weapon suppliers and builders where a lot of that money would be spent. two questions for you just on the future of nato. we just saw turkey ratify sweden's bid to join nato. the only thing standing in the way now is hungary. i know you spoke with the prime minister of hungary, viktor
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orban. are you confident hungary will approve? >> yes, he was very clear and also stated that publicly after my conversation with prime minister o rrk ban and he supports the ratification of the sweden membership in nato. so i'm confident that sweden will soon become a full member. making nato stronger and all of us more secure. nato is a good deal for europe, but nato is also a good deal for the united states. the united states represents 25% of the world's gdp. together with nato allies, we represent 50% of the world's economic might and 50% of the world's military might. so, in nato, the united states has something no other major power has. and that is more than 30 friends and allies and that makes all of us stronger, also the eyes. >> former president trump is likely the republican nominee for president. he has been very clear how he feels about nato. he reiterated that feeling just
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a couple days ago. listen to this. >> we're paying for nato. and we don't get so much out of it. and you know, i hate to tell you this about nato, if we ever needed their help, let's say we were attacked, i don't believe they would be there. >> you look at the trump campaign website, mr. secretary general. it says, quote, we have to finish the process that we began under my administration of fundamentally re-evaluating nato's purpose and nato's mission. would a second trump presidency concern you about the future of u.s. membership in nato? >> well, i believe that the united states will continue to be staunch nato ally, regardless of the outcome of the u.s. elections because it is in the u.s. interest to have -- >> even under president trump? >> because it is -- well, i worked with him for four years and i listened carefully because the main criticism has been
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about nato allies spending too little on nato. and the message has been taken. they have increased defense spending, more and more allies are spending 2% of gdp on defense, poland is spending 4%. no other ally is spending more than that. and in total, added 450 billion extra for defense. so, the message from the united states that european allies have to step up has been understood and are now moving in the right direction. >> certainly there's been a commitment of more money from those members. but to hear the president, former president say, let's say we were attacked, i don't believe they would be there is questioning whether they would abide by article 5. so i really appreciate you weighing in on all of this and wish you success and the rest of
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your week in washington and down at lock heed martin. thank you very much. >> thank you. ♪ we do have breaking news just in to cnn. we want to warn you, this is very disturbing. a pennsylvania man was charged with murder and abuse of a corpse after police say he posted a youtube video in which he claims to show his father's decapitated head while ranting about the biden administration and the border crisis. now this video circulated online for hours before being taken down. the father of the individual was a federal employee. his son called him a traitor. with us now former fbi deputy director and senior cnn law enforcement andrew mccabe and danny free map. this is breaking right now. what more do we know about what actually happened here? >> yeah, phil. just to state the obvious, as you said, this is an incredibly disturbing story. i watched part of this video last night. it's an image you can't get out of your head. yesterday this is when this all started, this video was posted on youtube.
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the suspect here is justin mown, 32 years old, from middletown township in pennsylvania in bucks county. and as you said, this video contains a number of rantings basically about the biden administration, about the border. at one point declaring himself the acting president under martial law. but then there's this horrific moment when he appears to show the head of his deceased father on camera. saying that his father was a traitor to the country because he was a federal employee. now, that video, like you said, phil, stayed up for a long time. eventually later into the evening. youtube was able to take it down. even x seem to be taking down videos that people were reposting and reposting. but then in the evening, police were able to apprehend mr. moan about 100 miles away from his home in bucks county, in ft. indian town gap in pennsylvania. again, it's 100 miles to the
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west of where he was and where this crime is alleged to have been committed. now sh i will say, just to give you a sample of one of the things that mr. moan said and i'm quoting from the video, he said in part, the federal government of america has declared war on its citizens and the american states. america is rotting from the inside out as far left woke mobs rampage our once prosperous city. now, phil, the thing that law enforcement are trying to make clear at this moment is that this suspect is in custody. the threat to the larger community is over right now. but, truly, community on edge you could imagine after hearing this news. we're going to hear a press conference from the bucks county district attorney later on today on this subject. phil? >> andy, this video was -- references president biden. it was up on youtube as i understand it for several hours before it was taken down. talk about the bigger picture here, if you could. >> sure. yeah, so the bigger picture is
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extremely concerning, i think. as most security officials as we go into what will be an incredibly heated political season. you know, obviously this guy -- we don't know -- we're waiting on additional facts from the investigation to understand his specific motives. you can make some assumptions based on his claims in the video that he's been motivated by politics. but i think the bigger picture here is that this is another example of the fact that the kind of overheated, deeply politicized, extreme rhetoric that you hear sometimes in this country from politically elected officials and leaders actually has an impact on these marginalized people with extremist views who might be, because of their mental illness or their disturbance or their unbelievably strong beliefs in some of these things, driven to
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embark in acts of violence. you know, some of the things that he has said on the video allegedly referring to woke mobs and things like that, that's not dissimilar from rhetoric that you hear from some politicians that we've heard recently in the primary season from some folks specifically. so this kind of language has an effect on the extremist -- on the most extreme most vulnerable, most potentially dangerous part of our population. and i think it's something that most security officials are really concerned about. you know, poppy, the odds are if we experience political violence in this year around the presidential election, it's not going to look like january 6th. it's not going to look like a massive mob of people that's organized and compelled to come together at our nation's capitol or any state capitol. it's going to look like
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individuals who decide that based on their extreme beliefs they have to act out on their own. that seems to be what we have here. >> i know you'll keep reporting on this. please keep us posted. after months of negotiations, the senate's emerging bipartisan immigration deal appear bs, quote, absolutely dead. house majority whip going to join us next to discuss the state of immigration, impeachment, all the things going on on capitol hill next. ♪
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♪ well, overnight republicans pushing forward with their impeachment of dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas as hope for a border security bill, bipartisan fashion in congress is fading fast. senate republicans debating whether to shelve an emerging deal amid sharp criticism from donald trump. mike johnson and republicans declared all a but dead at arrival in the house. >> are you simply trying to kill this to help him out on the campaign? >> no. manu, that's absurd. we have only a tiny, as you know, razor thin, actually a
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one-vote majority in the house. our majority is small. we only have it in one chamber, but we're trying to use every ounce of leverage that we have to make sure that this issue is addressed. i have talked to the former president trump about this issue at length. and he understands that. he understands that we have a responsibility to do here. >> joining us now republican congressman from minnesota tom emmer. he is the majority whip in the house and endorsed donald trump for president in 2024. congressman, i appreciate your time this morning. i know there's an old addage on the hill those who know whip don't talk about them. those who don't talk about them don't know. do you think your conference will be lined up to move forward on that on the house floor? >> well, the process was pretty heavy last night. personally i believe it's appropriate. it's been a year-long process. very thoughtful and detailed. and you have the head of
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homeland security who is charged legally with securing our southern border. phil, he's not only failed to do that, he's willfully disobeyed existing law which requires that you detain certain individuals and instead he created this mass catch and release program h ch has resulted in things like in my home state about a year ago they had an individual on the terrorist watch list come across the border. they had him and they released him into the country. he was here for a year before he was picked up. he's a member of al shabaab, the terrorist group al shabab. >> okay. >> he was picked up in minneapolis recently. so, the process is moving forward. and i expect the articles will pass out of committee and then we'll pass it off the floor. >> when it comes to process, the precedent here, there hasn't been a cabinet official impeached in 148 years and you had several constitutional scholars weigh in including one who said whatever else mayorkas may or may not have done, he has
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not committed high crimes and misdemeanors. i have this. take a listen. >> i don't think they have established any of those bases for impeachment. the fact is impeachment is not for being a bad cabinet member or even being a bad person. it is a very narrow standard. >> that was jonathan who agreed with your assessment during the trump impeachment efforts, which they were political, there wasn't enough due process and lacked precedent. how do you respond to that? >> oh, i think there's been plenty of due process. you've got an individual who testified before every other committee in the senate, in the house, perhaps more than any other cabinet member and yet he won't come in and testify in front of the homeland security committee to explain why it is
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he has literally been violating, willfully violating the immigration and naturalization act by failing to detain individuals who are coming across our southern border illegally. and there are other legal violations. i have great respect for all of these constitutional experts. >> right. >> but the facts speak for themselves. and i think what you'll see coming out of committee now, because i'm assuming those interviews have been taking place before all of the debate, what you're seeing coming out of committee is i believe they will find that he has willfully disobeyed existing laws. he's willfully violated or abused and ignored the parole law in this country. >> okay. >> and that's why i think ultimately he should have resigned long ago. you got 8.3 million people that come across the border under his watch. >> right. >> 1.57 million got aways. this is outrageous. remember when jay johnson, who is under the obama
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administration said 1,000 a day was a crisis. >> there is no question on the numbers. democrats acknowledge that as well at this point. i should note the dhs team says they have been trying to negotiate for that testimony which hasn't taken place yet. obviously the process is still moving forward. but it's also happening as there are efforts to try to address the crisis at the southern border. republicans passed their own legislation. there's a bipartisan group in the senate working towards their own deal. in "the wall street journal" editorial board, grand standing is easier than governing and republicans have to decide to accomplish anything other than impeaching mayorkas. the point being, you guys have piece of legislation. the senate is working toward a piece of legislation and yet that seems to have been reyjectd out of hand. is legislation off the table unless it's your bill. >> no, i think that's your interpretation or the journalist
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community's interpretation. nothing is off the table. the fact is the house passed the strongest border bill in the last 20 years. it would do things like end catch and release. it would do things like restore the remain in mexico policy. reform the broken asylum process and deal with this parole issue, which seems to be way too flexible for the administration because they're not enforcing it. we did that. the senate is having discussions. but we don't have a deal out of the senate. and what has been leaked out of the senate suggests things like increasing parole by up to 50,000 people a year. if that's the case, phil, it's going to be really hard for us to get the votes to pass that off the house floor. but we have to see it first. >> no, no. i understand and agree seeing the legislation would be a positive step here and i feel like this is being dismissed out of hand because whether or not the 5,000 threshold is a valve to turn things on our off or whether it's a minimum. i have been told it's the latter. when you hear things like some
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of your colleagues have said, it raises some of the questions i've had. take a listen. >> why would we do anything to try to help improve that dismal number with a border bill being drafted in the senate that isn't serious about border security. joe biden doesn't need congress. why are we always feeling that congress needs to do something about the southern border? we don't have to do a damn thing. >> and i think that gets at the gist of why i'm asking if there is no legislative solution and why things are being dismissed out of hand. that's a member of your conference. >> no. i think what you're hearing is the frustration that we don't have a sincere intention to secure the southern border coming from joe biden and this administration. you brought up the 5,000. again, i go back to jay johnson under obama who set 1,000 illegal immigrants coming across our southern border in one day is a crisis. >> right. >> we have 302,000 come across
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our southern border in the month of december alone. all-time record high. the idea that you would send over something, again, you said it and i agree with you totally, we have to see legislative text before we say we can't support something. >> right. >> but if, in fact, you're talking about more than one person coming across our southern border illegally, that can't be tolerated any longer. >> yeah. we do have to see the text. we'll see if they get to that point. i do want to ask you before i let you go because you're a respected member on capitol hill. i covered capitol hill when you were there. people in your conference like you. democrats respect you. the former president when you -- the conference's choice to be speaker dismissed your bid, called you totally out of touch with globalist rhino. afterwards he told associates he would proud to killed your effort. last week you endorsed him for president. i know you're laughing but last week you endorsed him for president, given the history i laid out, was that a hard choice for you to make? >> no. donald trump will be our
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candidate. bottom line for me is we must win this next election. we cannot afford four more years of joe biden's failed economic policies, open borders, all the problems that have come up around the world because of his inability to state a course of action. frankly, take action. so this country cannot afford another four years of joe biden. donald trump is going to be our nominee and he'll be the next president of the united states. >> and all house republican leadership is behind him. tom emmer of minnesota. a lot of minnesota fans on this set. thank you, sir. i appreciate it. >> thank you, guys. >> indeed there are. that was a fascinating interview, phil. where does it leave you thinking anything is going to happen? >> no. >> okay, all right. to this now, chinese president xi promising biden that china won't interfere in the 2024 election. and ceos from several major
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tech companies on the hot seat today in the judiciary committee is set to ask questions about online safety for children.
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♪ this morning there is a new potential roadblock in the gaza hostage negotiations. after a broad framework for hostage release and cease fire in the war between hamas and israel was agreed to, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has ruled out the freeing of thousands of prisoners, or pulling troops out of gaza as part of any deal with hamas. on tuesday, u.s. national security adviser jake sullivan met with the qatari prime minister urging that all possible effort bs brought to bear on hamas to secure the release of hostages without
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delay. later that night, sullivan met with the families of americans still held hostage by hamas. joining us now, john poland and rachel goldberg part of that meeting via zoom. their 23-year-old son was badly wounded and kidnapped by hamas in october. i appreciate both of your time this morning. ecan't imagine how difficult this continues to be for you on a day-to-day basis. rachel, the meeting that you were part of with the national security adviser, what was your take away coming out of that meeting? >> my take away coming out of that meeting is that jake sullivan, mcguirk, antony blinken, president biden, bill burns are all extremely serious about getting to a finish line for a deal that will see the release of these remaining 136 hostages. that is really what i felt. >> john, i think the concern that we've heard from families, both in israel but also here,
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has been that sentiment is not shared by prime minister netanyahu. do you have any sense of that at this moment? >> it's hard to know. i think that prime minister netanyahu is actually interested in bringing these 136 hostages. i think right now he's at a pivotal moment. his legacy is at stake. and this is the opportunity for him to say, hey, what happened on october 7th happened. it happened on the watch of my government. but rather than leave these people to say and wither in gaza, i'm going to do the bold thing. i'm going to make a deal and i'm going to bring them home. and i hope and think that he's thinking in that direction. and we're doing everything we can to encourage him at this point to continue to push in that direction. >> it certainly feels like the public sentiment has moved further in that direction over the course of the last several weeks. rachel, in the meeting with jake sullivan, i understand where u.s. officials are on that.
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did they give any information about family members, about what they're hearing from the ground. there seems to be so little at this point. >> hearing from the hostages, you mean? >> yes, hostages, any information about what's happening in gaza right now with hostages. >> oh. there's absolutely no information. there's been no information for 117 days. and the six american u.s. citizens, as you know, are still being held there. we have no information. and i think that the motivation, as i said before, is very sincere, genuine and bullish from the americans, the qataris, the egyptians are all pushing hard. and as john they're all pushing hard, and as john said, benjamin netanyahu has a real moment to be a hero and bring home, you know, and help get out these 136 remaining
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people, and i think that he will be remembered forever as being the person who saved this situation and went on, you know, from this being the last part of a legacy. >> john, when we have spoken to you guys in the past, i have always been struck by the strength that you guys have brought to this. i can't imagine it as a father, what drives you each day at this point? >> so as you can see, today is day 117, and what's driving us today is the same that's driven us for every day until now, which is we have one goal, this is the clearest mission we have ever been on in our lives, and the goal is bring home our son and the other 135 hostages. and it's hard to know every day as we chip away at this whether we're successful or not, but it feels like we're in this moment. things are coalescing in the right direction, and we got to
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push ahead. i don't know if you can see, but rachel sitting in the israeli knesset, one part of jerusalem sitting outside a tent at benjamin netanyahu's house just trying to be here to show our awareness of the situation and encourage the prime minister to do the right thing right now, and we are pushing on all cylinders to make this deal come to the end that we're all hoping for. >> the work matters. your voices have a significant effect. we are constantly thinking about hersh, and everyone else. we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> what a fight by those parents. democratic congresswoman cori bush under investigation by the department of justice for alleged corruption. she responded to that. we'll tell you what she said.
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democratic congresswoman cori bush of missouri is defending her personal security spend spending. she pushed back against accusers, insisting she has not used any federal dollars but is paying her husband for his security services. >> i retained my husband as part of my security team to provide security services because he has had extensive experience in this area. i am under no illusion that
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these right wing organizations will stop politicizing and pursuing efforts to attack me. >> previously, the office of congressional ethics also investigated her husband's security work for her. they did close that probe after determining those payments were legitimate. the house ethics committee is still investigating. we are going to find out how much donor money was spent by donald trump on his legal fees. sources say it's in the tens of millions. >> in 148 years, house republicans are barrelling toward the impeachment of a cabinet secretary. latest on the efforts to oust secretary alejandro mayorkas.
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secretary mayorkas's actions have forced our hand. we cannot allow this border crisis to continue. we cannot allo

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