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answers might be coming in the next few minutes. can donald trump woo the teamsters away from president biden? trump's going after it today and joe biden's getting ready to fly to michigan to rally more union support. what these votes mean for critical battleground states and anyone's hope to win the white house now. >> billion considedollar effort secure the border. this is a giant money pit. sara sidner is off and i am with kate bolduan. this is "cnn news central." the safety of your children very much in question this morning. we are talking about your children online. there is broad, bipartisan agreement that dangers are lurking, kids are being targeted and the social media companies may not be as engaged as they should be. at this moment, tech ceos are being called to task on capitol hill. let's get the latest from cnn's
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claire duffy. claire? >> right, john. lawmakers have spent the past two-plus years talking about the potential harms on social media and the big question today will be can we hear more than the flashy sound bites e special me in an election year and will there be pushes for real change from the ceos. already we've seen parents filing into the room holding pictures of people who have been hurt by social media. the pressure is really on here. there are reasons to believe that today's hearing could be different from some of the other online safety hear than we've seen in the past couple of years and there are a number of serious legislative proposals on the table that could hold these companies accountable. there is the kids online safety act which snapchat said it would endorse. we'll see ceos face pressure to also endorse that bill. there is another proposal that would crack down on the ai-generated non-consensual
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images and taylor swift was the latest victim of it last week. they'll be touting the new safety measures. many of them have tools that let parents oversee their teen's social media use. critics say that doesn't go far enough and it puts too much pressure parents and teens themselves on social media. it will be interesting if social media ceos can assure lawmakers that they're doing enough. >> we'll listen to their choice of words. clare duffy, thank you very much. >> we'll keep an eye on that. it's a new fight for union support today. donald trump trying to woo one of the nation's largest unions, the teamsters, away from joe biden. he's meeting with members and leadership in washington. the teamsters endorsed hillary clinton in 2016 and biden in 2020 just for some perspective. cnn's kristen holmes is joining us now. what is the task facing donald
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trump today as he tries to pry them away from joe biden? >> yeah, kate. this is all part of a larger strategy if it ends up with a rematch for joe biden and it does look like we're headed in that direction. donald trump's goal to try to drive a wedge between biden and one of his most supportive labor blocks. to be clear, they do not think they will win all labor unions and he has a record seen anti-labor than pro-labor. he has a track record, donald trump of appealing to working-class voters and that's what they're going to try and do. this visit is actually upsetting some union members including an executive board member who wrote a letter to the president of the teamsters saying essentially that donald trump was a known union buster, scab and insurrectionist. clearly, some of the members here are upset by this visit. as you noted, the teamsters have not endorsed in this election,
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obviously, that would be a huge win for donald trump. unclear, whether or not that would happen, but it does come after the united autoworkers endorsed joe biden, not just endorsed him, but we've seen the president of the united autoworkers coming out and slamming trump repeatedly. something to keep in mind here as he makes his visit to d.c. today. >> that's exactly right. kristen, thank you very much for that. >> i have a feeling -- >> we are also tracking this right now. developing this morning, new attacks from nikki haley this morning. she just delivered her sharpest criticism of donald trump yet saying he is, quote, toxic and lacks moral clarity. let's get more on this right now. cnn's kylie atwood has more. what have you got? >> we just heard this morning from nikki haley on charlamagne tha god where she offered her sharpest critique of the former president and she went after him in the way we haven't until
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today and she went after his mental fitness and this morning she said bluntly that he was toxic when she was asked about how he has changed politics. listen to what she said. it seems like we don't have that sound bite. sorry, but obviously, this is a critical moment for nikki haley. she has been fund-raising in new york. she is trying to do everything that she can to convince voters that it's worth keeping her campaign alive, and another thing that she is doing, her campaign is launching a new effort to cast former president trump and joe biden as grumpy old men. we have seen her tie these two politicians together, increasingly so, over the last month or so and this is a new effort to try to cast them in the same vein as two old men who are stuck in basements and the like and over the course of the last few days, one thing i want to point out, kate is she's made
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a case to show her foreign policy chops and how she would have responded if she were commander in chief for this attack in yemen that killed three u.s. service members claiming she would go after irdc leadership and contrasting to that, we haven't heard much from former president trump on the matter. he has put out two statements. he blamed biden for the death of those service members and nikki haley obviously saw this as a moment to go on a media blitz and to hone in on her foreign policy expertise. for most voters, foreign policy isn't their top voting decision maker, but it is a way to showcase what she would do if she were commander in chief, very clearly. kate? >> great stuff, kylie. thank you for tracking it for us. joining us, national politics reporter hearndon and with axios, sophia ky. i want to focus first, though, on this battle for union support
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from donald trump and joe biden. the fight for union support, it is an interesting one. biden won the support of the uaw last week and we know that donald trump appeals to union workers, working-class voters and he has since 2016 in a way republicans traditionally have not for decades. what do you see here? >> yeah. i think this is clearly going to be one of the battlegrounds we have to think about when it comes to 2024. remember back in 2016 not only did donald trump appeal and break the voters, we saw a split between union leadership who were universally backing hillary clinton and the democratic ticket and the rank and file breakaway that was more and more interested in donald trump. that gap kind of closed in 2020 as donald trump's presidency was seen as too chaotic and joe biden was able to win back some of those voters and it is that same split that donald trump is targeting again here. yeah, they understand they may not have the leadership to line
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up behind them and they want to have some of that support and pull away from the margin. we shouldn't think of union voters in a vacuum. of course, these are working class voters with kitchen table issues and there the union president was pressured calling for a ceasefire on the issues of gaza and foreign policy. there are issues that were seen as secondary like union voters and their economic concerns and that's a line that's increasingly being blurred as these issues become more and more nationalized and all of these issues are on the table. >> right. if there is a split or a difference and there would be between winning the support of union leadership and all union members because sophia, the teamsters, what is it? more than 1.4 million members. what would an endorsement or just pulling over a lot of support if not a full-on
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endorsement from the teamsters. what would pulling that support mean for donald trump if it would happen? >> i mean, i think that would be huge. teamsters endorsed hillary clinton previously and that would be a real shift in teamsters leadership. we don't know if that will happen. we do know that both biden and trump are expected to meet with teamsters that's really wrangling some rank and file union members who are writing letters to say, you know, come on. like, trump was not a very pro-union president and we saw a lot of that split and we saw that in michigan where trump was there in detroit and he was at a non-union plant because he wasn't able to get the union leadership to get him to hold his rally at a union plant. so when you go and talk to those rank and file members, they don't necessarily like that trump and biden are coming in here using them as political props.
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they will vote as they will and in some cases regardless of what the leadership will do. >> let's talk about what kylie atwood was reporting this new move from nikki haley. this is new in how she's going after donald trump in this way, toxic, lacks moral clarity. astead, speaking with charlamagne tha god, what do you think of this move by nikki haley instead? >> it's certainly interesting. i think you're right that this is the most clear-eyed criticism of donald trump we've seen from her, from the more personal attacks that we've seen from her and the setting is interesting and choosing to go on the breakfast club and talking with charlamagne tha god and speak to someone who is seeing themselves as having a long way to go in that race. she does not have a money problem. there continues to be an elite class of the republican party
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that is up psupporting her. the grassroots base of the republican party isn't speaking that same language and more importantly, a lot of the apparatus of the republican party, and the state party officials have really been squeezed since new hampshire by the trump campaign to try to wrap this primary up and name donald trump as the presumptive nominee. i saw her in nashville right before the new hampshire results and you can see her with the attacks and the grumpy old man lie, i think this shows that she's not going to go down without having her say clearly, i think the what if for nikki haley campaign and what if she's making the clear contrasts for donald trump at the beginning of the campaign, and iowa and new hampshire and the electoral path for her looks better. >> and you know, they're thinking no time to look in that rear-view mirror quite yet. >> sophia, you've been doing
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reporting and writing as what you describe the hail mary strategy. talk to me about that strategy and what you're hearing about it. >> i mean, look, it doesn't really work for them to dwell on iowa and new hampshire, they have to show a way forward. they're looking beyond new hampshire and nevada where they're not really campaigning on to south carolina and on to michigan and on to 11 of the super tuesday states where there are open primaries or semi-open primaries and that means you have democratic and independent voters who are eligible to vote in those states and i think that is the very narrow and complex path that they are charting even if it's very unlikely for them. >> from some of the reporting from the campaign and in your reporting, here are one of those pieces of data. of the 874 delegates, two-thirds
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are in semi-open primaries. john? >> new report of israeli military action on hospital grounds. it costs billions and now new questions about a huge effort to keep migrants from crossing the border and homebuyers on edge this morning waiting for a big announcement on interest rates.
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you're looking at live pictures from the u.s. senate. this is a hearing that a lot of parents have been waiting to see. those are tech ceos. you can see mark zuckerberg
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among others, rising, raising his right hand. let's listen. >> let the record reflect that all of the witnesses have answered in the affirmative. mr. citron, mrezplease proceed your opening statement. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> my name is jason citron, and i am the co-founder and ceo of discord. we are an american company with about 800 employees living and working in 33 states. today, discord has grown to more than 150 million monthly active users. discord is a communications platform where friends hang out and talk online about shared interests from fantasy sports to writing music to video games. i have been playing video games since i was 5 years old and as a kid, it's how i had fun and found friendship. many of my fondest memories are of playing video games with
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friends. we built discord so that anyone could build friendships playing video games from minecraft to wordel and everything in between. games have always brought us together and discord makes that happen today. discord is one of the many services -- >> all right. those are tech ceos and you saw mark zuckerberg among them. they are testifying before a senate committee. there's rare bipartisan agreement that your children are facing dangers online and that these social media companies need to do more to stop it, to step in, to monitor it, at least. so some of the questions that we do expect to hear will be quite pointed today. we'll check back in in a little bit if things heat up. this morning there are also new reports of intense fighting around a hospital in gaza. this is happening at the al amal hospital in khan younis. jeremy diamond has more on this.
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what have you learned? >> well, john, the situation at the al amal hospital is being described as quite precarious by the palestine red crescent society. they say there are thousands of displaced palestinians who have been sheltering at that hospital who are now living in, quote, constant fear and anxiety. they said that last night israeli tanks actually rolled into the front yard of that hospital. the israeli military, for its part didn't deny that specifically, but they did say that they, quote, did not operate inside the hospital itself. they also maintain they've been closely maintaining and coordinating with hospital officials to try and ensure the delivery of fuel and to ensure that electricity remains on at that hospital, but what is hospital is that the israeli military for a week now has been engaged in a significant offensive in that area of western khan younis where several key hospitals including al amal hospital as well as al nasser hospital are both
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located. not only are those critical hospitals for the wounded and the ill, but they've also become shelters for thousands of displaced palestinians and there has been very, very intense fighting in that area with israeli tanks and armored vehicles surrounding the area of many of those helps, strikes and artillery shelling also reported in the area of those hospitals. despite that, though, the world health organization said that today they were able to deliver essential medical supplies to nasser hospital for about 1,000 of their patients, critically needed medical supplies at a time when, again, the situation is growing increasingly desperate for the patients and the displaced people living in the area of those hospitals. john? >> jeremy diamond in tel aviv. thanks for your reporting. kate? >> after a middle of the night vote, the stage is now set for house republicans to impeach homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas even though there is a whole lot of talk of impeachment these days,
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impeaching a cabinet secretary has not happened in nearly 150 years. at the same time, a bipartisan border deal that has been in the works for months is on the brink of something on the senate side, either success or total collapse because of donald trump's objections. that is all happening in washington, but let's go to the center of where this crisis has been focused. cnn's ed lavandera is in eagle pass, texas. let's talk about -- from all of the talk in washington, where you are is where the focus and where a lot of the crisis has been centered about where the need is so great right now for a fix. what are you seeing there, ed? >> well, the standoff that we're watching unfold in washington is clearly contagious because that is what we're seeing continuing to unfold here on the ground along the border in eagle pass where the federal government and the state of texas continues to battle over the way the governor here is executing his border
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security initiative called operation lone star. >> gaston santander fled venezuela and crossed into texas in the summer of 2021, just a few months after governor greg abbot launched the worker security plan called operation lone star. [ speaking in a global language ] >> he was arrested by state troopers. operation lone star arrests migrants after trespassing on to private property. these arrests would deter migrants. >> when people start learning about this they'll stop coming across the texas border. >> you were handcuffed, arrested and charged with criminal trespassing and you spent more than a month in jail in texas. ? santander says the experience was hell. he spent his life working as a human rights lawyer and now was
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seen as a criminal. trespassing charge was dismissed by a judge and almost three years later santander is now in colorado awaiting his asylum hearing. the state arrest did nothing to derail that. >> kristen eder is a lawyer who has worked with groups that have defended thousands of migrants snagged into the net of operation lone star. >> it's really just a political stunt, and has no real effect on immigration. >> the state says they've made nearly 10,000 trespassing arr arrests since 2021. >> all right. ed lavandera for us in texas. we do need to go now back to capitol hill because mark zuckerberg, the ceo of meta, the founder of facebook now testifying beginning his opening remarks to senators. let's listen in. >> mental health is a complex issue and the existing body of scientific work has not shown a causal link between using social media and young people having
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worse mental health outcomes. a recent national academies of science report evaluated over 300 studies and found that research, quote, did not support the conclusion that social media causes changes in adolescent mental health at the population level. it also suggested that social media can provide positive benefits when young people use it to express themselves, explore and connect with others. still, we will continue to monitor the research and use to to improve the road map. keeping young people safe online has been a challenge since the internet began and as criminals evolve their tactics we have to evolve, too. we work closely with law enforcement and help bring them to justice and the difficult reality is no matter how much we invest and how effective the tools are, we work with this committee and for parents to
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make it safer. i am proud of the work teams do to improve child safety on our services and the entire internet. we have over 40,000 people overall working on safety and security and we've invested more than $20 billion in this since 2016 including $5 billion in the last year alone. we have many teams dedicated to child safety and team well-being and we lead the industry in the areas that we are discussing today. we build technology to tackle the worst online risks to help our whole industry get better like project lantern which helps company share data about people who break child safety rules and take it down, a platform that prevents new damages from being spread online. we also go beyond legal requirements and use sophisticated technology to proactively discover abusive material and as a result, we find and report more inappropriate content than anyone else in the industry. as the national center for missing and exploited children put it this week, meta goes, quote, above and beyond to make
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sure that there are no portions of their network where this type of activity occurs, end quote. i hope we can have a substantive discussion today that drives improvements across the industry including legislation that delivers what parents say they want. a proven system for age verification and control over what apps their kids are using. three out of four parents want app store age verification and four out of five want parental approval whenever teens download apps. we support this. parents should have the final say on what apps are appropriate for their children and shouldn't have to upload their i.d. every time. that's what app stores are for. we also support setting industry standards on age-appropriate content and limiting signals for advertising to teens for age, location and behavior. at the end of the day, we want everyone when uses our services to have safe and positive experiences. before i wrap up, i want to recognize that the families who
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are here today who have lost a loved one or lived through some terrible things that no family should have to endure. she's issues are important for every parent in every platform. i am committed to continuing to work in these areas, and i hope we can make progress today. >> thank you. mr. spiegel? >> mark zuckerberg, the ceo of meta delivering his opening statements at this hearing. tech ceos answering questions from senators and again, there is bipartisan pressure on these companies to do more to protect kids on social media, and we really should explain how tense this is expected to get. the ranking minority senator lindsay graham on this committee has said that these companies have blood on their hands. so this hearing could get very tense. in the meantime, you are looking to buy a house or finance a car or make major financial decisions? you better pay attention to a big announcement coming today.
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talking about what they are and are not doing to better protect children on their platforms and online. senator graham at the top of the hearing, just so you know what is coming at these ceos and top leaders once they're done with their opening remarks. senator graham said to them you have blood on your hands. you have a product that is killing people. you can't be sued, you should be said senator graham. there is bipartisan agreement and anger that has been coming towards these social media platforms for quite some time. the question has long been and remains today what is congress going to do about it and what are the social media companies going to accept or do ahead of that. we'll continue to listen and bring you some of the top moments from the hearing. also this morning all eyes are on the federal reserve as everyone waits to learn their next decision on interest rates. the general expectation is that the fed is going to hold rates
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steady for the fourth consecutive meeting. a big question is when will they then make the turn to start lowering rates after the aggressive moves taken to fight inflation. cnn's matt egan has much more. remind everyone of the significance of these first meetings of the year. >> well, kate, the fed is preparing right now to make a significant shift in policy. this is a shift that everyone is going to feel. >> yeah. >> remember, the fed has been hiking interest rates at the fastest pace since the 1980s, right? all of that designed to try to get inflation under control. this, of course, has lifted the cost and a lot of the viewers out there can attest to. it can get more expensive to get a car loan and credit card debt and to get a mortgage and all of this tough medicine from the fed, it has actually worked and inflation has cooled off. it's cooled off so much that the fed can now s.t.atart finally
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lowering interest rates and giving borrowers a bit of a break for the first time since 2020. there is debate when it will happen. it's not going to happen today. there's almost no chance of a rate cut today, but the market is pricing a 60% chance of of a rate cut at the next meeting in march and there's uncertainty and an unusual amount of uncertainty so we're looking to see whether or not fed chair jerome powell can drop hints about whether they can have relief in march or if this is more of a summer issue for when people will get relief. as you know, the implications are massive for the consumers, the economy, the market and maybe even the election. >> everyone listens and tries to decipher and translate what the fed chairman says in his press conference and we'll be listening to that. >> we'll turn to a very interesting story, as well. a judge in delaware striking down a multibillion-dollar payout package for elon musk. it had boosted him to be one of
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the richest people in the world, what happened here? >> a stunning decision out delaware. a judge ruling that this 2018 competition package that musk and tesla, that they failed to prove that this package was fair. now remember, this monster pay package valued at $51 billion. billion with a "b" at today's prices it did help mack elon musk one of the richest people on the planet and tesla shareholders don't have a lot to complain about in the sense that he's gotten some amazing results. when this pay package was approved in 2018, tesla was worth $15 billion and today more than $600 billion. >> a judge said sorry, i'm taking it? >> elon musk is firing back as only he can in delaware where this court case played out where tesla and other companies are incorporated and musk said on his social media platform, x, he
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asked millions of followers whether tesla should change to te texas where it is physical headquarters are. now the question is how does tesla and its board respond? they could appeal or use it as an opportunity to get a new pay package installed for elon musk, one that lock him up for the long term. as one analyst put it, elon musk is tesla and tesla is elon musk and the company can't afford uncertainty over where he'll be in the long term. >> one certainty is elon musk will not convince people to not incorporate delaware since that is worth a lot. good to see you. >> thank you, kate. >> john? >> a member of congress under federal investigation accused of paying her husband with federal money.
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you have a product that is killing people. that is what tech ceos were just told moments ago on capitol hill, part of this contentious testimony as they answer questions from senators who want answers about what these companies are doing to protect chi children. you're listening to cindy yaccarino, let's listen. >> the safety act should continue to progress and we will support the continuation to engage with it and ensure the
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protections of the freedom of speech. there are two additional areas that require everyone's attention. first, as the daughter of a police officer, law enforcement must have the critical resources to bring these bad offenders to justice. second, with artificial intelligence, offenders' tactics will continue to sophisticate and evolve. industry collaboration is imperative here. x believes that the freedom of speech and platform safety can and must coexist. we agree that now is the time to act with urgency. thank you. i look forward to answering your questions. >> thank you very much, miss yaccarino. now the rounds of questions
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seven minutes each for the member, as well. i would like to make note of your testimony, miss yaccarino. i believe you are the first social media company to publicly endorse the ccm act. >> it is our honor, chairman. >> that is progress, my friends. >> thank you for doing that. i will still be asking some probing questions, but let me get down to the bottom line here. i'm going to focus on my legislation. what it says is civil liability if you intentionally or knowingly host or store child sexual abuse materials or make child sex abuse materials available. secondly, intentionally or knowingly promote or aid and abet a violation of child sexual exploitation laws. is there anyone here who believes you should not be held civilly liable for that type of conduct?
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mr. citron? >> good morning, chair. you know, we very much believe that this content is disgusting and that there are many things about the bill that are encouraging and we are modernizing that along with giving more resources to nkmk and i would be open to having conversations with your team talk through the bill some more. >> i sure would like to do that because if you are intentionally or knowingly post or store you would be liable. i can't imagine -- >> it's disgusting content. >> mr. spiegel, i listened closely to your testimony here
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and it's never been a secret that snapchat is used to send sexually explicit images. in 2013 early in your company's history you admitted this in an interview. do you remember that interview? >> senator, i don't recall the specific interview. >> you said when you were first trying to get people on the app you would go up to people and say hey, you can get this application, you can send disappearing photos and they said oh, for sexting? do you remember that interview? >> when we first created the application it was called peek-a-boo, and they were using it to communicate and we change the name to snapchat and we found people were using it to talk visually. >> as early as 2017 law enforcement identified snapchat as the pedophiles go-to sexual
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exploitation tool. a 12-year-old girl identified only as l.w. showed the danger. over two and a half years a predator sexually groomed her sending her sexually explicit videos over snapchat. the man admitted he only used snapchat with l.w. and not any other platforms because he knew the chats would go away. did you and everyone else at snap really fail to see that the platform was the perfect tool for sexual predators? >> senator, that behavior is disgusting and reprehensible. we provide in-app reporting tools so people who are being harassed or have been shared inappropriate sexual content, and we typically respond to the reports within 15 minutes so we can provide help. >> her case was dismissed under sections 230 of the communications decency act. do you have any doubt that had snap faced the pros peck of civil liability for facility for
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sexual exploitation the company would have implemented better safeguards? >> senator, we already work expensively to proactively protect this behavior, there are no public friends list and no public from file photos. when we recommend friends for teens we make sure that they have several mutual friends in common before making that recommendation. we believe those safeguards are important to prevent from misusing the governor. >> mr. citron, according to the website, it takes a proactive and automated approach to safety and only on servers with 200 members. smaller servers rely on server, owners and community moderators to enforce behavior. how do you defend and approach the safety that relies on groups of 200 sexual predators to report themselves for things like grooming, trading a csam or
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sextortion? >> chair, our goal is to get all of that content off of our platform and ideally prevent it from showing up in the first place or from people engaging in these kind of horrific activities. we deploy a wide array of techniques that work across every surface on discord, and i mentioned we recently launched called teen safety assist which is everywhere and is used by teen users and that works like a buddy that lets them know that they're in a situation that they're talking to someone that may be inappropriate so they can report it to us and block the user. >> mr. citron, if that were working we would not be here today. >> that is a challenge for all of us and that is why we are here today. 15% of the company is focused on trust and safety of which this is the top issues and that's more people than we have working on marketing and promoting the company. we take the issues seriously and we know it is an ongoing
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challenge and i look forward to working with you and collaborating with tech peers and non-profit to improve our approach. >> i certainly hope so. mr. chew, your organization and business is one of the more popular ones among children. can you explain to us what you are doing particularly and whether you have seen any evidence of csam in your business? >> yes, senator. we have a strong commitment to trust and safety. as i said in my opening statement i intend to invest more than $2 billion this year alone. we have professionals working on this topic. we have built a child safety team to help us identify specialized issues and horrific issues like the materials like the ones you have mentioned. if we identify any on our platform and we do do detection we will remove it and report it to other authorities.
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>> why is it tiktok allowing children to be exploited into performing commercialized sex acts? >> senator, i respectfully disagree with that characterization. our livestreaming product is not for anyone below the age of 18. we have taken action to identify anyone who violates that and we remove that from using that service. >> at this point i will turn to my ranking member, senator graham. >> thank you, mr. citron, you said we need to start a discussion, to be honest with you, we've been having this discussion for a very long time. we need to get it resolved and not a discussion, do you agree with that? >> ranking member, i agree this is an issue that we have also been very focused on since we started our company in 2015. >> are you familiar with the
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erned act? >> a little bit, yes. >> do you support that? >> we -- yes or no? >> we are not prepared to support it today. >> the c sam act? >> the stop csam act. we are not prepared to support. >> do you support the shield act? >> we believe that the cyber tip line -- >> do you support it, yes or no? >> we believe that the cyber tip line -- i would take that to be no. the child act, do you support it? >> we believe that -- i'll take that to be a no. the report act, do you support it? >> ranking member graham, we very much look forward to having conversations with you and your team. i look forward to passing a bill that would solve the problem. do you support removing liability protections for social media companies? >> i believe it needs to be updated. it is a very old law. >> do you support repealing it
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so people can plead if they're harmed? >> i believe it has been written has enabled innovation on the internet that i think is largely -- >> thank you very much. >> if you are waiting on these guys to solve the problem we're going to die waiting. mr. zuckerberg -- trying to be respectful here. the representative from south carolina, mr. guffee's son got caught in a sex distortion ring in nigeria using instagram. he was shaken down, paid money. if that wasn't enough then he killed himself using instagram. what would you like to say to him? >> that's terrible. no one should have to go through something like that. >> do you think he should be allowed to see you?
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>> i -- i think that they can sue us. >> i think he should.u you? >> i -- i think that they can sue us. >> i think he should.e you? >> i -- i think that they can sue us. >> i think he should. bottom line here is this committee is done talking. we passed bills in their different ways and look at who did this. graham blumenthal, durbin holly, klobuchar, vernon ossoff. we found common ground here that just is astonishing and we've had hearing after hearing, mr. chairman and the bottom line is i've come to conclude, gentlemen, that you're not going to support any of this. linda, how do you say your last name? >> yaccarino. >> do you support the erned act? >> we strongly support the
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collaboration to raise industry -- >> no, do you support the erned. in english, do you support the erned act, yes or no. >> we look forward to supporting and continuing our conversations. as you can see -- >> the reason the rned act is important you can lose your protections when children are exploited and you didn't use best business practices. see the erned act means you have to earn production and you're give 10 no matter what you do so to the members of this committee it is now time to make sure that the people who are holding up the signs can sue on behalf of their loved ones. nothing will change until the courtroom door is open to victims of social media. $2 billion, mr. chew. what percentage is that of what you made last year? >> senator, it is a significant and increasing investment --
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>> you pay taxes. 2% is what percent of your revenue? >> senator, we are not ready to share our financials in public. >> 2 billion sounds like a lot unless you make 100 billion. it's all about eyeballs and our job is to get eyeballs on you. it's not just about the children. the damage being done, do you realize, mr. chew, that your tiktok representative in israel resigned yesterday? >> yes, i am aware. >> okay. he said i resigned from tiktok. we're living in a time in which our existence as jews in israel and israel is under attack and in danger, multiple screenshots taken from tiktok's internal employee chat platform known as lark show how tiktok's trust and safety officers celebrate the
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barbaric acts of hamas and other iranian-backed terror groups including the houthis in yemen. >> senator, i need to make it very clear that pro-hamas content and hate speech is not allowed on our platform. >> why did he resign? why did he quit? >> senator, we also do not -- >> do you know why he quit? >> we do not allow this. we will investigate such -- >> my question is he quit. he gave up a good job because he thinks your platform is being used to help people who want to destroy the jewish state, and i'm not saying you want that. mr. zuckerberg, i'm not saying you want as an individual any of the harms. i am saying that the products you have created with all of the upside have a dark side. mr. citron, i am tired of talking, and i am tired of having discussions. we all know the answer here and here is the ultimate answer. stand behind your product. go to the american courtroom and defend your practices. open up th

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