was hoping she would be alive. again, i am in the midst of it all and i see it on all sides. again, i think some of these things can happen. >> reverend hale, final word from you now if you were speaking with the administration directly? >> if i had the opportunity to speak to the administration i would simply share with them how hard it is for us to be aware of the suffering that's taking place, both by israel and gaza, but particularly by gaza and the palestinians. 27 plus thousand people have died. 10,000 more of them, children. so i am just concerned that this war is continuing. i want to see the hostages returned, but i want to see the senseless killing stopped.

the fact that a few -- i mean the masses are paying for the actions of a few. >> well, more than 1,000, more than 1,300 killed in israel in that horrific attack as well. i'm so glad to have your voices with us this morning. thank you very much, reverend hale and pastor day. cnn "this morning" continues now. ♪ ♪ we are glad you are with us. good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow with phil mattingly in new york. a moment ago president biden arrived on capitol hill. he will be giving a speech at a national prayer breakfast as he faces multiple crises at home and overseas. right now the world is watching and waiting to see how the president has decided to retaliate for the drone attack in jordan that killed u.s. troops, allegedly blaulaunched

iranian-backed militants with reporters peppering about when that will come. u.s. officials tell cnn sunday's attack caught iran by surprise and worried its leaders according to u.s. intelligence. also, a cruise missile came within one mile of hitting a u.s. destroyer before it was shot down a couple of days ago. >> it is the closest one of the houthi attacks has come to a u.s. warship yet. >> all of these attacks underscoring a serious question over how much control iran has when it comes to militias it is funneling weapons and money to. kevin, what are we expecting to hear? do we expect the president to weigh in at all about the multiple foreign policy crises he is facing right now? >> reporter: i think it is possible he addresses them in the broad sense, but this event is meant to bring the two parties together and demonstrate a degree of unity in washington. but you can really hardly think

of a more discordant moment for that message to try to get across. of course, election year. politics are always toxic in washington particularly when you have an incumbent running for reelection, and you really see that illustrated in the debate over this immigration bill on capitol hill. it is not just divides between republicans and democrats, but even within the republican party. you see the split between house republicans and the house speaker mike johnson and their republican counter parts in the senate. certainly that intervention by president trump had the effect of essentially scuttling the bill all together. you see divides among democrats are the issue in the middle east and progressives are diss satisfied with how president biden is handling that. it will be interesting when he heads to michigan to talk to autoworkers, that state home to a large arab american population who has been outwardly angry about how he is handling this. certainly a fraught environment

for the president to be speaking about unity on capitol hill today. president biden, of course, is something of a throwback in this regard, openly nostalgic about his own days in the senate, what he thought were better days, more unified days. it was interesting. i went back to read his speech at this event last year. he said he bemoaned we see each other as enemies, not neighbors. it is hard to see how much has changed in the last year. phil. >> yeah, you know, the u.s. and israel have been discussing what will happen after this war ends in gaza, whenever that happens, especially in the wake of some israeli cabinet members calling for the complete resettlement of those palestinians. i wonder what the state department is emphasizing on that point? because netanyahu has not condemned those far-right ministers for that. >> right. and the state department and the white house, president biden are all very adamant that they're still supportive of a two-state solution, of the creation of an eventual palestinian state. i think what you are seeing right now is the diplomatic

gears really shifting into high gear as they try to work out a solution to bring the most intense fighting in gaza to an end. now, what was interesting yesterday. there was a report in "axios" from barack ravid saying the state department was weighing options for eventual recognition of a palestinian state. the state department themselves say that their policy has not changed but, of course, they are reviewing options and they're actively pursuing the establishment of an independent palestinian state. of course, the major hurdle here is israel itself and the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, who has said in increasingly public fashion that a palestinian state does not comport with israeli security. there's also a question of who would run an eventual palestinian state. so in the coming days we will see the secretary of state, antony blinken, returning to the middle east as he works to secure this major diplomatic deal that would essentially transform the region. certainly a lot of work to be done until they can agree on anything at the end of the day,

guys. >> no question about that. thank you. let's talk more about the crises overseas and how the u.s. could respond. joining us is former trump security advisor, john bolton. i want to start where kevin left off. i think it is fascinating reporting yesterday about the state department weighing whether or not to have the two-state solution to move forward on the discussions related to that. you long ago called the two-state solution a dead end, that there was no kind of pathway forward on that. do you think it still holds today in. >> i think it is even more true today. i will say this first. if joe biden wants to lose the election this november, go ahead and recognize a palestinian state. go ahead. make donald trump's day. you know, we're not recognizing a state of mind. to recognize a state, there actually has to be one in existence and right now there is

no palestinian state. the british foreign secretary said something very similar to what the white house is leaking. i really think it is a mindless approach. it is actually much the same as what the plo used to do, trying to get recognition as a state in the hallways of the united nations as if that would make for a difference on the ground. i think that kind of position pushes the israeli government into an even firmer resistance to negotiating that point. >> do you think that the british warm war minister floating it, coming out in a news report here, that it could be an effort to reestablish a relationship that has gotten off kilter, where the prime minister, where some of his further right ministers have been and how they responded to u.s. requests over the last several months? >> sure. and i think the report you just heard is part of the biden administration's propaganda campaign to say the train is leaving the station, the big

deal is about to happen. it is possible it will happen if the white house can break israel's resolve. yeah, there might be a big deal. the difference i think is that the biden administration is so gravely concerned about its political prospects in november, it is nearly paralyzed about what to do about the larger conflict. it simply will not recognize what has been obvious i think since october the 7th, that the cause of these conflicts across the middle east today is iran. because it won't admit that, its strategic response, biden administration's strategic response is increasingly incoherent. >> do you believe iran has complete command and control of the proxies of the region? >> no. let's talk about nato. do you think the united states has complete command and control over the nato alliance? do you think we write letters

saying, dear, mr. france, you will do this, signed uncle sam. anybody in nato consultations know what it is like. that's not the issue. the issue is the strategic evidence on the ground of a is happening, and there's no doubt that this is, as they say in a cold war, no coincidence, comrade, what is going on here. i think people trying to deny iran's absolutely central involvement will be shamed in history for their blindness here. >> explain that to me, because i don't know the community is trying to deny iran's involvement. i think there's questions about scale of involvement. are you saying the nuance isn't important, the fact that they fund the train is enough in and of itself? >> look, the iranian government has for some time now been talking about the ring of fire strategy around israel. >> right. >> and that it has been reported over and over again, it is working to increase the

coordination of these terrorist proxies that it arms, equips, trains and finances. do you seriously believe that iran has done all of that for the convenience of the proxies or for the convenience of iran? we know that iran's ultimate goal is hegemony in the region and with islam. we don't know what the goal is with this operation, but it is inconceivable it is not all part of the ring of fire strategy. when we see the administration, for example, as one of your reporters earlier today said that iran was surprised at the attack, and the reason they were surprised is this one had succeeded where so many others had failed. i mean if the administration is really surprised at that, the difficulty for us is even more serious than i thought. >> i guess the big question comes down to, at least the way you are laying things out, is

the only option appears to be to strike iran in your view. is that a fair assessment of things? >> look, let's try to get back to basics. i think what the administration is worried about is the conflict. they talk endlessly about not wanting a wider war, not escalating it. >> right. >> the conflict is not the main issue. the main issue is the cause of the conflict. the conflict is a manifestation of the problem, and the problem is iran. in this particular circumstance, iran has crossed an american red line. they have killed three americans. they have paid no penalty. they have incurred no cost for any of the violence in the region, not for the hamas violence, not for what the houthis are doing, not for what hezbollah or the shia militia have been doing. i don't think iran will believe that the united states is serious, especially given all of this diplomatic pandering we see from the white house, until iran

itself begins to pay some costs. now, i'm not saying that an initial attack on assets in iran has to be regime threatening. in fact, i would say the contrary. but there are many, many kinds of locations that could be hit that shows the mullahs in tehran, they can say whatever their red lines are, they're not going to dictate our response. >> they have assets and infrastructure in syria in particular but also in iraq as well. is that not adequate? >> no, i don't think it is. you know, look, the fact is that they feel they can range at large, not just killing americans in syria and iraq but threatening american citizens like salmon rushdie, like former government officials, and they can do it because they feel not at risk. they are not deterred by the united states. so if you want to reestablish deterrence, there are ways to do

it. the biden administration is paralyzed by its unwillingness to see this reality. i would just make one final point here. iran's behavior right now is objectionable in so many ways. would you rather face that problem today or face it after iran gets nuclear weapons? you think their behavior will be better then? >> i think the administration would say it is a question of calibration and the front end might be a lot easier than trying to figure out the back end when it comes to a direct strike, and that's obviously a debate take continues ongoing. >> i think that's exactly -- >> and i understand what you're -- >> and you know what that reveals? that reveals what winston churchill called the confirmed unteach ability of mankind, the unwillingness to act when the cost will be low and deferring it until the cost for us gets potentially much higher. >> i understand your point. i certainly understand your perspective. i think the last couple of decades have, unfortunately when it comes to these issues, led

people to pause in situations like this. john bolton, we appreciate your time, sir. thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> such an important debate to have with him. okay. so ahead, mark zuckerberg, you probably saw this stunning moment, apologizing during a combative hearing on capitol hill about social media. >> would you like to apologize for what you have done to these good people? >> i -- [ applause ] >> -- the things that your families have suffered. >> we are going ask senate judiciary chairman dick durbin about that moment and the bill he is pushing to protect children. and we are standing by for president biden to speak at the national prayer breakfast. he is sitting next to house speaker, you can see him right there, mike johnson. we will bring you his remarks when he speaks. stay with us.

♪ ♪ senators denouncing the leaders of five major social media companies in an emotional hearing yesterday for not doing enough to protect kids online. >> i am so tired of this. it has been 28 years, what, since the internet. we haven't passed any of these bills because everyone has double talked, double talked. it is time to actually pass them. the reason they haven't passed is because of the power of your companies. >> children are not your priority. children are your product. children you see as a way to make money. >> mr. zuckerberg, you and the companies before us, i know you don't mean it to be so, but you have blood on your hands.

>> in a stunning moment, mark zuckerberg, whose company owned facebook and instagram, turned around and spoke to the parent of these victims. >> you're on national television. would you like now to apologize to the victims who have been harmed by your product? show them the pictures. would you like to apologize to what you have done to these good people. >> i -- i'm sorry -- [ clapping ] >> -- knowing that you go through the things that your families have suffered. >> the hearing captured the growing alarm over big tech's impact on our kids, the most vulnerable users. last year the nation's leading child protection organization received more than 36 reports of suspected child sexual exploitation online that included 105 million images and videos. between just 2021 and 2023 there was an explosion in the number of reports of online incitement. this issue has really united

republicans and democrats, but congress has yet to pass any meaningful legislation to rein in these social media companies. senate judiciary committee leaders say they hope this hearing builds momentum for a package of bills aimed at curbing child abuse material online. dick durbin held a news conference with survivors of online exploitation after the hearing and he really cut to the heart of the problem. >> this is an industry that cannot be held responsible for its wrongdoing. this is an industry that can't be taken to court no matter what they do. that is unacceptable. >> senator dick durbin joins us now. you held that, by the way, lindsey graham, another example of the bipartisan nature of concern here and hopefully action by you guys soon. in all of your years in the senate, i wonder if you have ever witnessed or been in a hearing like that. >> poppy, i have never been through that experience. can you imagine for a moment

sitting at the head table and looking out at a sea of parents, grieving parents who have lost a child or seen their child's life completely ruined by the internet? they held up the pictures of those kids and i realized what was at stake is not just a political exercise. it is a question of our humanity. i think what happened yesterday, the bipartisan response is unusual on capitol hill, to say the least. the question that is before us now is will it lead to a change in the law. that's our responsibility. >> that's exactly my next question. what are you going to do for those parents? will you finally, as senator klobuchar said, 28 years of this. are you finally going to be able to pass something? >> well, we have a good starting point. we have five bills that were passed unanimously out of the committee last year. when you look at the senators who asked questions yesterday, you see the spectrum of politics in america from right to left, some extreme on both sides, but we all came together and

unanimously voted out these bills. the question now is can we put together what is needed to bring them to the floor of the senate and will the house respond as well. >> yeah. >> these are big questions but we have a lot of political force and emotional force behind us. >> one of yours is to stop csam act. tell people what it does and where it stands. >> it is child sexual abuse material and it is the worst of the worst. if you can imagine unimaginable things happening to your child or grandchild and being posted on the internet, ruining their lives, leading them to suicide, that's what we're talking about. i will tell you that it is a strong bipartisan measure. there is absolutely no excuse for it. unless we act, unless we hold these companies responsible in civil liability i don't believe they're ever going to change their ways. >> you are a father. you have six grandkids i think. am i right on that? >> right, that's correct. >> this is also personal. i want to play this moment that struck me.

this is mark zuckerberg in his testimony. here he was. >> mental health is a complex issue and the existing body of scientific work has not shown it cauit -- a causal link between young people using social media and having worse mental health outcomes. >> i wonder what you thought when you heard that. >> it harkens me back to when the tobacco executives came before us and swore nicotine was not addictive and their product was not killing people. it was an outrageous statement by mr. zuckerberg and a man with the resources he has and the advisers he has should not have said anything like that. >> i got a text message this morning from someone within the company saying, tech executives don't write legislation. they lobby for it. they lobby against it. what do you make of that argument? >> well, there's some truth to that. that is the bottom line.

the good news is we start off with five bills that passed unanimously out of the committee. that i think is our template we need to bring to the floor of the united states senate. now, i know the senate as well as most people. i will tell you to get this done you have to have a bipartisan measure and an agreement on time and amendments. that's not easy in a senate designed to stop and kill legislation right and left. i think we can do it. i think the police caltical for saw in that hearing and in that room can make a difference. >> 26 words in current law mean that these companies often can't be sued and that's known as section 230. it sounds complex but it is not really. it basically says they're not media companies. they can't be held liable for what is put on their platforms. i know you don't want to get rid of it but how can it be changed so kids are protected and there is responsibility and ownership for some of this stuff? >> well, if the industry believes, and i think they're coming to the belief that they have to do something

significant, significant that makes a difference, otherwise section 230 is on the block. i'm not going to protect 230 at the expense of these children. if the leaders in the industry are willing to come forward with significant, meaningful, effective changes, i'm up for listening for it. but the bottom line is if 230 has to go, it has to go. >> that's a significant development from you because you had been in favor of reforming it but, you know, this is a big protection for them. so if it were to go, that is significant. before you go, senator, i want to ask you, on this program on november 2nd you were the first democratic senator to call for a cease-fire between israel and hamas. i wonder if you have spoken to the president about that since and if the administration is now leaning more toward that than they were on november 2nd? >> i can't tell you the evolution of the president's thinking on it, but my thinking is the same. i don't believe there is a military solution who what has happened in the middle east. i believe the only solution is one that is political and

involves both sides sitting down. we can't shoot our way out of this problem, and to think of the humanitarian disaster that has followed from the terrible hamas invasion of israel really gives me pause. i would have to say that a two-state solution is the only viage approach. >> senator dick durbin, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. new details on the man who post it a video to youtube with his dad's decapitated head. he has been fired with murder as fears grow about how incendiary rhetoric heard in his online attack may fuel similar attacks, next.

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lot more information about that incredibly violent and disturbing attack in pennsylvania. justin moan has been charged with beheading his father and displaying the severed head while going on a political rant on youtube. his college roommates tell cnn he showed many signs of pair not paranoia in 2016. >> he called his father a traitor because he was a federal employee. the video was up more than five hours before youtube removed it. in a statement to cnn, youtube says it was taken down and he was terminated in line with their policies and they're working to remove uploads of the video now. >> with us now is chief analyst john miller. my goodness, what we have learned about this guy and motivation and what he had done prior and warning signs is so much more than we learned yesterday when we learned of the news. it is scary about what is driving this kind of violence.

>> we have learned more. on december 23rd local police were sent to do a wellness check after his former employers had gone through his stuff and found what they called a violent manifesto. we don't know what the results of that wellness check was, whether they were able to talk to him or his family, but commonly in these things unless you have broken a law and you say, yeah, i'm good, there isn't a lot of action they can take without the help of the family or direct intervention. there's also investigations by the u.s. marshals in that he was making what was considered threatening statements against one of the judges who had dismissed multiple of these frivolous lawsuits including the lawsuit saying, i'm suing the federal government because they gave me the student loan that allowed me to go to college that made me not as successful as i hoped i would be and now they want to pay it back. but what we're seeing here is familiar to us. you know it, too. think about what we've seen in

just recent history. a man in arlington, virginia, blows his house to smither eens after filing multiple ridiculous lawsuits and living in a world of paranoia and not getting the intervention he needed. an individual storms the fbi office in cincinnati because he is mad the fbi are arresting january 6th people who stormed the capitol. every few weeks we see one of these. what the behavioral science experts call an injustice collector, everything is going wrong in their life, none of it is their fault, it is the deep state, it is the migrants, it is they're a white male or some other thing that in these echo chambers, in these chat rooms on the internet. people kind of egg each other on about somebody's got to step up and do something. >> the individual crow was up for hours, about four, five, six hours. youtube has since taken it down. are there concerns inside law

enforcement it becomes a copy cat situation, someone sees it and wants to mimic it? >> it is a copy cat offense in that it is an offense that we have not seen before domestically. it is bar rowedorrowed from isi beheading prisoners and so on. it is borrowing examples of foreign extremist groups because everybody needs their five minutes or in this case their five hours of fame to say, no one was listening to me, i stepped out and took action. remember, when mohn is arrested after jumping the fence of a secure military installation. >> with a weapon. >> he is carrying a sig saur p230, a sophisticated handgun that goes between $800 and $1,000 and we don't know what his intention was next except he didn't resist.

>> john miller, thank you. we are going to show you live pictures from the national prayer breakfast. you see president biden sitting next to speaker mike johnson. he is expected to speak at any moments. we will bring you those comments live. let's take you live to brussels where farmers are protesting outside the european union parliament there. farmers have started fires outside of the parliament as they argue they are not paid enough and the rising taxes are just unfair. also, coupled with unfair competition from abroad, their businesses are hurting. quite an image there.

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national prayer breakfast on capitol hill. we will take that to you when he starts. biden is going to hit the campaign trail after that, and a new poll finds he is heading out donald trump in a head-to-head ma matchup. cnn reporter is here to break it down for us. this quinnipiac poll, what are we looking at here? >> what does this poll show? it shows joe biden at 50% to donald trump's 44%. you hit it on the nail, it is biden's biggest lead in a national pal in over a year. nikki haley is ahead of joe biden which might make the case she can make the electability argument. voters are not buying it in the primary. one of the most urgent issues facing america, economy is number two. what is number one? preserving democracy, which, of course, is a case that joe biden has been making over and over and over again that democracy is on the line. it does seem like in this poll it is breaking through for him. >> so is he getting more popular? why the turn in the number? >> why the turn in the numbers?

phil, this is something i have been talking about. favorable view of biden or trump, just 40% of registered voters have a favorable view of joe biden. just 37% have a favorable view of donald trump. it is this 24% we've been watching that have a favorable view of neither donald trump nor joe biden, and how are these voters going. this the key block i will be keeping my eye on in poll after poll after poll. choice for voters among those like neither biden or trump, joe biden ahead by 13 points. that's why he is ahead in this poll? if this number holds, joe biden will be reelected. of course, it switches from poll to poll. >> whoever wins that number likely to be president of the united states. >> exactly. >> appreciate you, my friend. >> thank you. good morning, gentlemen. thank you for joining us. phil, let me start with you. you have an interesting piece this morning on all of this. you go through, sort of take us back to 2016 and the

unfavorability of those, clinton and trump, and take us to 2020. say let's get to the point here. the unfavorability of biden and trump far surpasses the favorability of both of them. >> both are really unpopular. we had a weird cycle. 2016, both clinton and trump were unpopular. that was the defining characteristic of the election. donald trump won the voters who liked neither handily and that made the difference this swing states like michigan, wisconsin. in 2020 people still liked joe biden then so a small fraction of the electorate didn't like both of them. biden came president, more unpopular and here we are once again. harry just pointed to the numbers showing the gap in favor of joe biden has grown since the last time quinnipiac did this poll or the most recent numbers i looked at which was in october. then he was ahead by a couple of points. now he is up in double digits. again, favorable for biden.

quinnipiac tended to be favorable for biden so definitely grains of salts but it makes sense. if you are someone who lived through the past four years and voted for biden in 2020 because you didn't like donald trump, you probably haven't changed that position. it makes sense if you didn't like both still, perhaps you still would lean towards the president. >> that was my big takeaway from the poll. it proves the biden administration's, the campaign's premise is correct. they think when it is a clear choice of stakes between trump and biden, those saying to a pollster i don't like either of those options will come home to biden as they did in 2020. that's what is driving the campaign confidence at this point and they will point to things like this quinnipiac poll and say as things get closer, as the reality of donald trump sinks in for people and i would say as economic numbers trended in their direction, they think they will get results that look for and more like this one. >> look at the spirit for women voters in this poll in particular. >> exactly. >> which i think drives a large part of the gap. i want to ask about michigan, not because h phil and i hate i

as ohio state fans. >> i love it. >> trump talking to the teamsters, the union element of this and the war element of this, the war in gaza, the biden campaign's operation up to this point as he is about to head to the ground there, where do things stand for them in michigan? in i think michigan is an interesting place. they've been trying to make the union pitch that lends itself to biden. they got the uaw endorsement last week but to your point we can't think of them as separated issues. when he was at the uaw event last week, even the president who endorsed him got push back from rank and file members who think they should be doing more on issues like the war in gaza or pressing him -- he was disrupted a couple of times at that event. it links to 2016. there was a split between union leadership and kind of where they were and rank and file voters. that's where you have trump pitching himself to the teamsters. he knows he won't get the top line endorsement but he is trying to have brand recognition so he can pull off enough people there. i think it might be tougher because, to phil's point, donald

trump has lost some branding with that kind of moderate working class person from 2016 to now. but there's still the kind of push that he is making. i think joe biden feels good about where they are in kind of their relationships on the ground, but i think specifically you will have a big american population, on today in our podcast we have the mayor of dearborn, michigan. >> i can't wait to listen to that. >> yeah, we have the mayor of dearborn, michigan, saying biden has a problem in the state because of his lack of willingness to call for a cease-fire. i asked him directly if this leads to a donald trump presidency, if people sit out, do you wake up the next morning after election day and feel differently? he says no. so i think that's the real tension point that is driving a lot of that consternation in michigan. >> it echos what governor whitmer was warning about a couple of weeks ago about her state. you look at the margin she won by and you look at what biden is facing in the polling there, it is not about democrat versus republican. it is about biden and her, and she had a number of pieces of

advice for what biden needs to do on the ground there. i wonder what you think he needs to do when he goes. >> i think the fundamental issue here, the undergirding aspect of both of these lines of discussions is will biden voters actually bother to vote. it may be the case a lot of those voters about whom he is talking stay home. they don't go out and do anything. it may be the case people that dislike both are to heck with it, i'm not casting a ballot this time around. that's a fundamental concern for the biden campaign. they need young voters out. they need to get these other voters out. abou t people feel bob cost ta.

>> trevor kelce explains why he won't join taylor swift at the grammys this weekend. >> we are two people in a relationship supporting each other and having fun with it, man. it is nothing more than that. how much the world wants to pate the picture and make us the enemy, we just have fun with it. we enjoy every single bit of it. sure enough, i love it when taylor comes and supports me. i wish i could go support taylor at the grammys and watch her win every single award she is nominated for, but, unfortunately, i got to get ready for this big old super bowl we got in a week.

i think the chiefs now can safely be said are america's team. the dallas cowboys have had that monicker for a long time and they're still a glamour franchise, but they haven't been to the super bowl since the mid '90s. they have the best quarterback in the game. >> patrick mahomes. >> even though others are good. he is exciting, he improvises, they have him. >> that's bob costas. he was on king charles last night, wrongly crowning the kansas city chiefs as america's t team. i will not criticize his praise for mahomes. ma homes and travis kelce, the rest of the chiefs squad face off against the 49ers. the chiefs defending their super bowl title. >> he is right about mahomes. he is the first quarterback to reach four super bowls before turning 30 and youngest player to win a super bowl title and mvp award. with us now is his dad, patrick

mahomes' dad. he is a former baseball player who hosts "the big mahomes show" podcast. we are glad to have you. i know you have been through this before, it is your fourth trip to the super bowl in the last five years. it never gets old, right? >> never. any time you get to see your son perform at the highest level, you know, it is always great to be in attendance and be there and to be there to support him. that's what we try to do. >> but being a former professional athlete, we were joking during the break, i think all of the mets' fans on our team want to talk about your 9-0 season in 1999 that elevated them to the playoffs. but to watch your son, knowing the work that it takes, the pressure that he feels to be a professional athlete, i want to play something from after the super bowl last year. take a listen. >> i love you. >> hey. i ain't never seen nothing like

you! you did -- >> i love you. >> i love you. you know i do. you're good. >> yes! >> it is such a cool moment as a dad. there's a bunch of the netflix special on quarterbacks, too. but it is different because you know what it takes to be at that level and to say you have never seen anything like him. what does it feel like as a dad? >> well, to compete at the highest level, you know, is something that is rare and very special. and for him to have the amount of success that he's had this early on, you know, in his career, it is just surreal. you know, it is kind of crazy, and i really haven't never seen anything like him, you know. i have been around a lot of great athletes and a-rod and rickie henderson and all of these guys, but to be at the top of your game so quickly and

continue to repeat it year after year, it just makes it that much more special. >> we are hooing at all of these great pictures of you. let's keep rolling them with him when he was really little. there's one of you with the minnesota twins and you are holding him in like a carrier. he was barely a year old. you had this feeling that he would go pro, be a professional athlete from the time he was 6 or 7 years old, that early, is that right? >> that's correct. i mean that he was doing at such an early age, i knew that was different. i knew that was special, and i knew if he continued to move in that fashion, continued to keep working every day that he on have a chance to be a professional athlete. but with me and him, it has always been very special. i mean i have never seen, you know, a kid that worked as hard as he did, that grinded every day to try to make himself

better. like he says, each and every day. it was just crazy. we would be out, you know, shooting baskets 10:00, 11:00 p.m. at night and i would tell him, ain't nobody out here working but, you know, me, you and michael jordan. we the only three guys out here working trying to get better, and he took it and he ran with it. for him to get to the pinnacle of where he is now is just -- it is just outstanding and amazing. >> it is such a good story. i literally have shown my kids the netflix series of him doing workouts before practice, before he ever went to the facility, trying to engrain in them some of the talent that your son has. i have to ask because i think the reason bob costas was now adding the monicker to america's team, the chiefs, is in part of what everybody has seen with taylor swift. you have been in the box with her, seen her, interacted with her. the scene right now around this team that's been so successful, how would you describe it? >> well, it is exciting.

i mean taylor has always been very, very nice and pleasant to me. i actually was in the box with her only one time. i went over and seen her after games and stuff like that, but she's always been pleasant. but the buzz around the chiefs is real, man. it is real. any time you can get back to the super bowl as many times as they have, and it is not just patrick. it is the whole team, you know. every sporting team, their goal is to get to their final game, and they've been fortunate enough to get back now four times, and hopefully we can finish it off right this time. >> can i ask you real quick because it is a breaking news show and it has been breaking news. the dad bod photo that seems to have fired up your son on social media, have you seen it and are you recommending hitting the gym more? >> no, i -- i did see the photo. we actually talked about it last

night. but, yeah, man, patrick works hard. he's at the gym all the time. he works out, you know, three times a week. he's just unfortunate, he got that from me, too. that's in his dna. we just don't get the muscles like d.k. metcalf and some of the guys that are built like rocks and statues. we got this natural dad bod, but, hey, we're represented. >> hey, it is working. it is working. pat mahomes sr., we appreciate your time. good luck at the super bowl. thanks so much. >> all right. thank y'all for having me. >> that was amazing. >> great. president biden is expected to speak at any moment at the national prayer breakfast on capitol hill. we will bring you his speech as soon as it happens. cnn's new c"news central" start right after this break. sports this morning brought to you by safe light, your vehicle glass and recalibration experts.

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