just aiming at the smallest target in the snapshots competition. he went for the 5 the entire time and managed to get one. >> you got to go big or go home. i don't know, man, 5 was just speaking to me. unfortunately, didn't answer too much when i called. >> only got one, but the nfc still won the competition. so mission accomplished there. he's just a winner. >> thanks andy scholes, really appreciate it. and we're also waiting on punxsutawney phil. he could see his shadow, maybe, maybe not. we'll see. that is all i've got. i'm oman jimenez. they are all definitely very cold. have a great weekend. "cnn this morning" starts right now.

good morning, everyone, it's friday. we have brand-new polling, trump versus biden. one, razor-thin margin, the other a blowout. it shows how americans feel about immigration and the hamas war. how he says his forces must adapt to less military aid from key allies, including america as his own future is uncertain this morning. e. jean carroll's lawyer revealing why allegedly donald trump threw a stack of legal papers during the mal der-a-lag deposition. "cnn this morning" starts right now. what a week that saw donald trump and president biden move firmly towards a rematch.

one thing that hasn't changed is trump's narrow lead in the race. four points, identical to what it was in the fall. the findings underscoring what both sides say will be a super tight race no matter what. polling goes deeper. we'll get a look at where each gains fresh ground. nikki haley continues her defiant push to block donald trump. new polling gives her ammunition before that south carolina primary, showing her beating biden by 13 points in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up, bolstering haley's message that she is the one who can actually defeat biden in the general election. here's what she told jake tapper in reaction to that polling. >> if republicans decide they want to nominate donald trump, the same thing that happened in 2018, 2020 and 2022 will happen again in 2024. you can't keep doing the same thing and think you're going to

get a different result. donald trump will lose the election for us. >> cnn political director starts us off this morning. david, i have to be honest, i resisted the urge to text you very early this morning. i'm fascinated by what is underneath the hood. you have young children, i respected that. what stood out to you on the top line numbers? >> as you pointed out, it's the static nature of the race. look at the trump/biden match-up, 49% for trump, 45% for biden. just outside the margin of error, phil. a narrow trump lead. that is identical to where we were back in october and november in our last poll in the fall. you noted that haley/biden match-up, 52% for haley, 39% for biden. you see that 13 percentage-point spread. she has to get here. our poll also shows she's running 50 points hide donald trump nationally in the republican nomination race. so, yes, this is a selling point for her.

no, republicans don't seem to be buying that electability argument at the moment. >> there's also an interesting look at how voters are feeling right now and how they feel about how things are going, david. >> we see a slight uptick in terms of perception of how things are going in the country. 35% in our brand-new poll say things are going well in the country today. 39%, not a great number. it's better than the 28% in october and november. we haven't been up since december of 2022. a slight uptick in the perception. look at this broken out by party, guys. i think this is really interesting here. among democrats, independents and republicans, we see that uptick, there is this increase in perception. i also want to take a look here at joe biden's policies and how people perceive their impact on

the economy. 55% of americans in our poll say biden has -- his economic policies have worsened conditions. 26% say improved conditions. this really has not moved since last august. >> david, in isolation, the numbers aren't great, the trend lines are fascinating to me. how else do voters think biden is handling big issues? >> his overall approval is at 38% in our poll, which basic really where he is on the economy, phil. he's at 37% approval. the two issues where he overperforms his overall standing are on protecting democracy, 52%, and ukraine, 41% approval. where he's underperforming, his low approval rating, i should note, 34% of his handling of the israel/hamas war and consistently we see joe biden's worst issue in terms of approval

by the american public, immigration. i want you to note here at how the immigration issue is proceeding and why i think we see democrats starting to get on board with the idea of a border security bill here. back in 2019, 80% of americans had the top priority dealing with undocumented immigrants in the u.s. should be a path to legal status. now 68% say that. whereas the top priority should be deporting all undocumented immigrants. in 2019 it was 15% and now that's doubled, 31%, clearly still a minority here, but 31% and a big increase, believe undocumented immigrants should be the top priority. in terms of whether or not the situation at the mexican border is a crisis, you see here, republicans have thought it was a crisis for a while. independents now, 77% say it's a crisis. even democrats, we see two-thirds of democrats calling the situation at the border a

crisis. >> that shift on the border security issue is astounding. i genuinely double took when i read it. we have a lot more to get into during the show. >> immigration is one of the most important issues and we saw it in the exit polls out of iowa and new hampshire. let's bring in cnn political commentator, errol louis and former spokesperson. errol, when you look at these numbers, what has and has not changed when we look at the polling here, what do you think the takeaway should be for the biden campaign, what will it be? >> the number that should keep them up is the independents walking away, falling into a more conservative camp, maybe looking a scance at what they are doing on the border. democrats seem to be on board, not entirely enthusiastic but

you can run a mobilization strategy later in the campaign. if you lose the independents, that's where you start having problems in arizona, in georgia, in wisconsin, in pennsylvania, in the key states that made the difference four years ago. >> doug, we have to have the usual caveat polls, a snapshot in time. they're not predictive. this is where they are in the moment. that's why i think what's underneath is so fascinating. we have seen a series of polls on the economy, on top line where it seems like things are starting to tick up slowly. the bar was low. but they're ticking up. similar here underneath the top line, but still like a long way to go. >> a long way to go. when you are in a campaign, when you get new polling, you look at what you can take away to promote and what you can take away to discredit. >> what's your takeaway? >> everything we know about american politics right now is described in that poll. why do we not have a deal on immigration on capitol hill? those numbers. republicans and independents, those numbers are going to hold on capitol hill. we're not going to get a deal.

those numbers explain why. donald trump and joe biden, neck and neck, nobody really wants it. it's sort of the resistible force versus the moveable object. you have nikki haley with her key argument, i can win better than anyone else. these numbers explain. >> you look at those numbers. when you look at this, does this provide an opening for nikki haley, realistically? >> i'm a believer she shouldn't postpone her race. there are so many states coming up left that we need to see where there's actual traction. they made an interesting point there when she said, you know, trump has lost already before. trump endorsed candidates have lost in midterm. why on earth are we pursuing the strategy? if you see what happened on capitol hill, when you were talking about this, you have this deal on immigration. if got to a deal on immigration. it is the best deal they're going to get, that democrats have -- for 30 years dells haven't come to a deal like that

on immigration. all the republicans bow down to trump. so, while she's saying this, i agree with her, they're just -- they view trump as their leader and they can't get away with it. >> if you're a political hand, if you're an adviser, you're seeing these and explaining what's going to and changing how your message is. as a national security person, they see polls. i'm not saying they dictate how things go. what's striking in this poll is the divide between young voters on israel/hamas war and i think it underscores a problem. how do they solve this? >> in the 20 years i worked in foreign policy, i have never seen foreign policy dictate an election. that is including -- we have to remember, that includes times when we were in iraq, afghanistan, major wars, major drains on our resources, soldiers abroad getting killed. i just cannot believe this issue will dictate the election for a

few reasons. first, because november is far for a war of this kind perform things in israel/gaza, wars of this kind move very fast. it's hard to know what it will be by the time we get an election. also because at the end of the day, a vote where you're voting for someone else or voting -- you're staying home is, without a doubt, a vote for trump. trump is going to bring back the muslim ban and he was more supportive of israel than any other past president. it's a very short-sighted view. it's an important one. the white house understands it. reaching out to that community is important. i just can't see it dictating november elections. >> it's not the only issue, right, that is challenging for democrats when it comes to young voters. you have climate, you have the economy. they're not feeling great about the economy, even as you're seeing this uptick. so, on a number of fronts, young voters are key. does the campaign get that? >> they know that. have they figured out their messaging? >> the messaging is problematic at this point. one item they've been intense on

for months now is student aid. and getting some relief for that. yet, the very people for whom they've gotten this relief seem to be walking away or expressing dissatisfaction to pollsters or, perhaps, staying home. they're going to have to try to figure that out as well. they're going to have to get a team of credible surrogates out on the road, making the argument, making the case that this is better than the alternative. it's different, whether you like joe biden, that's what the pollsters are asking. it's different than what are you going to do when we come down the home stretch and it's time for early voting. that's the key question. >> can i ask you, there's been a murmur of democrats who are convinced the sky was imploding on their heads for several months thinking, okay, the economic numbers are good, we're seeing different polling numbers. maybe things are starting to turn. would you draw that con conclusion when you look under the top line on this poll? >> if we go back to two years ago, democrats were convinced the sky hadn't fallen, had

fallen. they did better than expected. the challenge for the biden administration here and congressional democrats is, yes, people are feeling better about the economy but joe biden isn't getting any credit for it. that's the number that has to change. >> good point. >> good to have u all. thank you. just ahead, a deadly crash in florida. four homes set on fire. the plane actually ending up inside of one of them. and her son killed four classmates. now jennifer crumbley is on trial for manslaughter, insisting she wouldn't have done anything differently. >> as a parent, you spend your whole life trying to protect your child from other dangers. you never -- you never would think you have to protect your child from hurting somebody else.

this morning we are learning several people have been killed in florida after a small plane crashed into a mobile home park. officials say the single-engine plane struck a home in florida and caught on fire. they reported engine failure before the plane three miles from the airport. >> we have several fires within

the aircraft and the mobile home. we're still working to make sure there is no additional. >> he also said crews were trying to tame hot spots at the scene. unclear how many people were on the plane. we'll keep you update. prosecutors in michigan are set to cross-examine jennifer crumbley. the prosecution says she's at fault for buying her son a gun and also for not getting the help he needed, the mental health help, despite warning signs. crumbley took the stand in her own defense on thursday. we have more on her testimony. >> the hardest thing i had to stomach is that my child hurt and killed other people. >> reporter: the mother of the oxford, michigan, shooter who killed four high school students in 2021, for the first time defending herself in court. >> i've asked myself if i would have done anything differently.

i wouldn't have. >> if you could change what happened, would you? >> oh, absolutely. i wish he would have killed us instead. >> reporter: jennifer crumbley charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter after she and her husband got a gun for their 15-year-old son days before the massacre. she has pleaded not guilty and appears to be shifting blame to her husband in her testimony. >> who is responsible for storing the gun? >> my husband is. >> okay. explain why you say he's responsible for that role. >> i just didn't feel comfortable being in charge of that. it was more his thing, so i let him handle that. >> reporter: she maintains she had no reason to believe her son was a danger to anyone else. >> as a parent, you spend your whole life trying to protect your child from other dangers. you never -- you never would think you have to protect your child from hurting somebody else.

that's what -- that's what blew my mind. >> reporter: she recounted the moment her husband called, telling her the gun was missing. >> instantly, i'm like, oh, my gosh, he's got the gun. i didn't actually think he was at the school shooting it. i thought maybe he walked home and got the gun. was in the field by the school shooting. i just -- i didn't imagine my son actually going to the school and shooting. when we got more updates, i was like, oh, my gosh, he's a school shooter, he's going to kill himself. in my mind, that's what school shooters have done. i yelled talk-to-text and said, ethan, don't do it. >> reporter: before crumbley took the stand, journal entries of the shooter before he open fire killing four classmates. he said, i have zero help for my mental problems causing me to shoot up the f'ing school.

my parents won't help. the journal was found in his backpack he brought with him that morning, spilled out on the school's bathroom floor. however, jennifer crumbley testified her son never asked her to get help for mental health issues. >> do you recall there ever being a time where he asked to go to a doctor or get help and you said no? >> no. there's a couple times where ethan has expressed anxiety over taking tests, anxiety about what he was going to do after high school. but not to a level where i felt he needed to go see a psychiatrist or a mental health professional right away, no. >> reporter: crumbley described threats she and her husband received after the shooting. >> i was feeling pretty scared. >> scared of what? >> scared that somebody might hurt us. >> reporter: the defense also attempted to portray jennifer as a normal mother. >> every year around thanksgiving, i always cook thanksgiving dinner.

the day after we would cut a tree down. he was a trivia buff. >> reporter: cnn, new york. >> our thanks to jean. back to washington, the house passing a bipartisan bill to help struggling families. one top republican is concerned it would actually help president biden get re-elected. we'll break down the difficulties in legislating an election year. and live pictures here out of punxsutawney, pennsylvania, folks gathered to celebrate, of course, groundhog day. to celebrate groundhog day. sorry. punxsutawney phil makes his weather prediction and we will bring it to you live.

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give your business a head start in 2024 with this great offer. plus, ask how to get up to $1000 prepaid card with qualifying internet. live pictures of capitol hill this morning where senate majority leader chuck schumer is taking steps to hold the first vote on the border deal by wednesday. this comes as republican house leaders suggest it could be dead on arrival. phil, for years, i have relied on your guidance, right, for all things capitol hill. why is this always so hard? >> how much time do you have? >> not enough, i don't think. >> then i'm going to go to a tried and true thing, the cliche. for all the high-minded eloquence they would like, it is clay sheas, kick the can down

the road, circular firing squad, in flux, jet fumes. they are undeniably tired and lacking in creativity, but they have an odd way of naur rating the rhythm of a place that despite these low ratings, americans manage to reach agreement on the bug must pass bills eventually, unless it's a presidential year. that's another cliche but one that right now explains a washington on the brink. >> it's hard on its own, in a presidential election year, it's hard. >> that's senator jim langford, and his view is not a minority view. that immigration view is tangled up, emergency aid for israel, ukraine, indo-pacific, a bipartisan tax package, impending government dead lines and federal aviation authorization expires on march 8th as well. these guys have lifts they never want to leave until an election

year. lawmakers have their eyes on the campaign and motives yet no one seems to trust anyone. >> i would ask the president right now, president biden, is it because we're in an election year that finally you get to the point where this matters? >> and that's why lawmakers, cliche alert, take pains to clear the decks ahead of time. it happened in a flurry of legislative action as president barack obama geared up for his re-election battle, and in 2015 in donald trump's battle with hillary clinton. deadlines punted until after the election. at the same time lawmakers eye the holiday season desperate to escape washington. now, 2020 did demonstrate one of the few exceptions to the rule in the last decade, a once in a century pandemic did force major emergency action and congress largely closed up shop until after election day. today, as all signs point to a rematch between donald trump and

president biden, the stakes could not be higher. on capitol hill a full-blown legislative train wreck is gripping the capitol, all of it should have been addressed by the end of last year. instead with house republicans grappling with the narrowest of majority, constant party in-fighting, they're all linked together in an election year. >> joe biden's approval rating is at 33%. why would we do anything to try to help improve that dismal number. >> at the same time, the presumptive gop nominee is flexing his interparty power to set tenuous immigration talks completely aflame. >> a lot of the senators are trying to say, respectfully, please blame it on me, please. >> and key gop senators are balking at the rare bipartisan deal on the house, a $70 billion tax package on political and

strategy grounds. senator chuck grassley who suggested they punt the bipartisan tax deal because it would be a president biden. every day that passes with a resolution, that's one day closer to election day, which means this, according to one top immigration negotiator. >> i think whenever you're making a deal, every day gets longer and longer, harder and harder. >> or to put it in capitol hill terms, after months of kicking the can down the road, there's a stalemate as they strain to block a poison pill while they say nothing is agreed to and everything agreed to that has everything in a flux in a moment where there are no holiday deadlines looming. this is a huge problem. because what hangs in the balance is of enormous consequence. >> and just to add one more point to that, the other consequence, too, it's for the american people and for this country, and that lawmakers aren't doing their jobs. >> exactly. >> phil, appreciate it, as always. coming up, a cnn exclusive.

how ukraine's army chief says his troops are adjusting to less aid from the united states and key allies and stunning development out of nairobi has a huge fireball, a gas truck exploding, nearly 300 people injured. new details just coming into cnn.

developing out of nairobi, kenya, a massive gas explosion that injured at least as 280 and killed three people. did you see that massive cloud of fire, essentially. this video capturing the moment the fireball took over the night sky. officials say a truck carrying gas exploded at a cooking gas plant. this happened around 11:00 p.m. local time. official it is say the fire burned down a warehouse and burned through residential homes where people were still inside. crews working into the morning to put that fire out. there's still no word on what exactly caused the truck to explode. you can see the aftermath, the charred remnants. nearly 300 people were evacuated to hospitals around nairobi. turning now to a brand-new cnn exclusive. ukraine's army chief says his country is being forced to adapt to the reduction in support from key allies, including the united

states. he writes, in part, we must contend with a reduction in military support from key allies, grappling with their own political tensions. russia taking note of how developments in the middle east have distracted international attention might seek to provoke further conflicts elsewhere. let's go to fred pleitgen, live for us in kyiv. the biggest question on the u.s. side is, what's going to happen if aid stops? he starts to dig into that a little bit. what did you take away from it? >> yeah, he certainly does. i think he's recognizing the bigger reality. the ukrainians are both out-manned and out-gunned and they probably are going to remain outgunned in the future as well. that's somewhere the top general in ukraine says, that's the reality we have to cope with. he says the only way to get out of that is by using modern technology. he refers to unmanned systems, sea drones, land drones, air drones. he said that could be the big equalizer on the battlefield.

i want to read you a quote from a fascinating essay who i urge everyone watching to go to our website and read. he says, quote, our goal must be to seize the moment, to maximize our accumulation of the latest combat capabilities, which will allow the -- us to commit fewer resources to inflicting maximum damage on the enemy to end the aggression and protect ukraine from the future. essentially what he's saying is he believes these unmanned systems are going to allow the ukrainians to lose future troops on the battlefield while inflicting harm on the russians. the big question, are ukrainians going to have the capability of doing that. >> and touching on mass mobilization, which has been a source of tension between him and president zelenskyy. >> yeah. it has been. you know, one of the things -- i've just come back there a tour from a lot of the battle fronts here in this country. one of the things that every single commander we met on the

ground told us is they have a shortage in artillery shells and man power. they don't have enough soldiers on the front lines and the soldiers they do have on the front lines have been there for a very long time and a lot are tired and need to be rotated out. he says he needs about 400,000 people to be mobilized. volodymyr zelenskyy, the president of the country, didn't take to that well at all. he said, look, how are we going to do this? who's going to pay for this? the mobilization system here in this country, still somewhat of an old system that a lot of people here say really prevents them from wanting to mobilize and go to the front lines, guys. >> the tension you and erica are talking about, fred, there's an elephant in the room. we are waiting to hear what zelenskyy's future will actually be. what do you know? >> this is one of the things that's a cloud over political kyiv. on monday it became clear, apparently there was a meeting

between zelenskyy, where zelenskyy told him he was going to get fired. he apparently offered him some other post, possibly an ambassadorship, that's not clear, but he declined that. yet zelenskyy said, look, you are out. you are going to be fired. since then this entire country has been waiting to see a presidential decree that would ac actually say he has been fired and who the possible successor could be. one thing we have to point out is the top general is extremely popular among the military and among the population of this country. so, whoever comes next is going to have a tall task. certainly folks here definitely came to see who that is going to be, when that is going to happen, of course, if that is going to happen, guys. >> this is so fascinating. an accelerant to the tension was his candid assessment of things in media, definitely read that essay. fred pleitgen from kyiv, thank you. nikki haley escalating her attacks on donald trump, insisting he's too old and too

confused to be president. and said he doesn't have enough cash to compete. the dignified transfer of three fallen u.s. soldiers, soldier rivers, kennedy and moffett was killed sunday at a drone strike in jordan. president biden and the first lady will meet with their families and attend that solemn ceremony. lloyd austin will also be there. this is the first time biden and austin will be seen publicly since austin's hospitalization for prostate cancer. we'll be right back.

happening today, nikki haley continues a multiday swing through her home state of south carolina. >> the former south carolina governor will host a rally in lancaster tonight, three weeks until the south carolina republican primary. she talked to cnn yesterday as she sharpens her attacks against donald trump and president biden.

>> the reality is 70% of americans don't want to see a biden/trump rematch. that's just a fact. the fact we would have two 80-year-old candidates running for president is absurd. we have a country in disarray and a world on fire. we need someone who can work eight years to get our country back on track. two guys in their 80s, they are automatically going to be in mental decline. that's just a fact. get ready to spend more campaign dollars on legal fees, because those court cases have just sta started. he's got two in march and they go out the rest of the year. it's unconscionable to me that a candidate would spend $50 million in legal fees. it explains why he's not doing many rallies. he doesn't have the money to do it. >> errol louis and doug high is back with us. the message is undeniably sharper, much looser. she's always been a good candidate but much more comfortable in what she's doing right now. she still has a ton of ground to

make up. when you talk to republicans, do they see something here? is something happening here? >> she has a ton of ground to make up in her home state. that's part of the challenge, what those numbers are ultimately going to be. what i hear so often from republicans who either work at the rnc, which is still a neutral place. there was some question -- in theory at least. the neutrality rule is a big deal. we won't nerd out on that. they see a message that works. their concern is if donald trump is the nominee, that messaging works regardless because we focus so much on donald trump -- or on joe biden's age, for obvious reasons. donald trump is not that far behind. both of them are at an age where you age a lot faster in roles where you also age a lot faster. yeah, trump's up in this poll. biden might be up in this state, in this poll. they see a neck and neck race. >> i want to get your take on some of what we heard from e

jean carroll's attorney. she sat down with george conway for his podcast. i want to play some first and then we'll discuss. she's talking about her interactions with the former president. >> he looks at me from across the table and says, see you next tuesday. you could tell it was kind of a joke, again, like teenage boys would come up with. my colleagues are like, do you know what that means? i'm like, no, what are you talking about? they tell me. thank god i didn't know. had i known, i would have gotten angry. we have a court reporter, videography, we're having a lunch break at mar-a-lago. what are you doing for lunch? i said to him, well, i raised this question with your attorneys yesterday, sir, and they graciously offered to provide us with lunch. at which point there was a huge pile of documents, exhibits sitting in front of him, and he took the pile and threw it across the table.

>> i don't know that any of that is all that surprising. it's fascinating to see, pull the curtain back and see what happens in the deposition versus what is nondeposition times. there you go. you know what you're getting. >> robby caplan seems to have hacked donald trump. she's gotten under his skin. she proved it in court over and over again. this is sort of more evidence that she figured out how to be exactly the kind of woman that drives donald trump's crazy. we saw some of this with hillary clinton in 2016. gets under his skin. she knows how to twist the knife a little bit. he completely loses control. now, what does that mean, politically speaking? it doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know. he doesn't like powerful weapon, he doesn't like to be challenged, he doesn't like to really have to abide by the rules that the legal profession and other kind of esteemed institutions have normally operated by. so, he throws a tantrum. that's what he does.

he's throwing a large tantrum in public from the podium. that's essentially the core of his campaign. >> doug, erica and i subscribe to a purity in language. we don't swear. >> never. i certainly never. never. >> profanity is offensive to me, which is why this moment and the pause right before it stood out to me from the president. watch. >> he laughed about it. what a sick -- [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> my god. >> it was funny and everybody laughed. over at politicco made the point that he finishes that sentence behind closed doors. which if you've covered the president and talk to his team, her swears, like donald trump, and you don't swear. >> never. >> that's interesting, that's one of those moments where he connects with people by being a

normal person. does he need to do more than that? >> the political bosses i did not swear, made life a little easier. i think it shows, yes, that language works now and it works because of donald trump. the first time donald trump said a bad word everybody was aghast. we saw quickly the head of the dnc, senator gill abrand started doing that as well as. >> it's not to be transgresses ive or make a a point, that's how younger generation talks. >> i want to point something out, though, what it is probably more than the language or joking about whatever it is or isn't, joe biden loathes donald trump. it is personal. it is not because he doesn't like the man. that is a viscerally held view

and it comes out behind closed doors. i think you'll probably see more of it. than more than anything else. everybody laughed and it was off the cuff. that was real. >> it also shows a vigor we say joe biden doesn't have in his advanced years. >> good point. >> i know we're out of time. does he need to bring more of that out, not the language, not being more familiar, being more transparent? >> transparent. >> it's a casual, innormal way of trying to disqualify trump, saying this man is unfit for office. >> thanks, guys. appreciate it. >> thank you. we are about to witness the release of apple's new vision pro headset. you're psyched. >> super psyched. >> we're going to test it out right here on "cnn this morning" next. jooishgs z

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>> that is our next guest having fun testing apple's vision pro headset, blending digital content into the literal space around us. today you can get it yourself for $3500. joining us is scott stein, who's test-driving this gadget right now. his avatar is going to join us. scott, can i start with, who is this geared towards? before we get into what it does, who is it geared forward? who is buying it? >> appele is ride willing a lin between a professional and a consumer market. if you're a professional and need super high hes display and creating in 3d models, but they're pitching it as a super cinema headset to the average consumer. for $3,500 that's a lot of money. the experience in it is phenomenal. it's just that that is an

ultraluxury price territory. >> there's some questions about there aren't as many apps. that's your avatar on the other side. >> for those wondering why there are not two screens and two scotts, that's what's happening. >> i'm fascinated because i know it's heavy, has this giant battery. i'm picturing myself, if you're watching a movie or maybe if you're watching sports, am i just -- i just sit there on my couch with this? you can't walk around with it, or can you? >> the only thing is there's a battery pack. you have to carry that in a pocket or put it in a holder but you can walk around with this. the pass-through cameras are good enough you can do a lot of things. i wouldn't recommend cooking or doing mission critical. you can check the time. you can also multitask. you can run things on multiple monitors and check things in the outside world, which is the feeling of a science fiction

world i'd be living in. >> erica is tech-savvy and has covered this stuff in the past. i am not. >> decades ago. >> i try to be. if you're purchasing this, what you're looking at right now, what you're pamping in right now, explain it to a normal pe person. >> absolutely. i've set up my laptop which i can see through one connection, and i'm connected via video chat on vision pro. i see the two floating together. i can see everything in the office but i'm also seeing a floating monitor doing that connection. what you're seeing is my persona, that's a scanned virtual identity, kind of like an avatar apple uses for voice connections. it works with webx, skype, zoom, facetime. it is a computer. they're talking about a spatial

computer. it's hooshged everything you're doing with ios. >> it's a computer on your face that looks like giant ski goggles. in reality, this is -- you were saying when phil asked, my main question to who is this for. early adopters, people with money to throw around. what does this become, though? if this is the first thing we're going to see, ultimately for, on a more accessible front, what could that look like for the average consumer? >> i've covered this landscape to get to ar glasses, tony stark glasses, something futuristic we've seen in films that shows you heads-up display and you can see holograms and all of that. i think that means melting the idea of what's a computer into something that becomes virtual that you can interact with with your hands. and a lot of people talk about this being a vision for what's there. best possible model to get that

experience. obviously in a vr-like design with a battery pack. but what it's doing, blending realities is pretty amazing because there's been nothing at this size that has done that. there's nothing that's done that with hand-tracking in the air like that all together. and i've looked at almost everything. once you do that in glasses, you could potentially use that for simulations, for training, for helping someone fix things in the real world. there are so many wild ideas but we're only at the very beginning, even after all this time. >> it is wild. >> the avatar is slick. >> and slick. scott, great to have you with us this morning. "cnn this morning" continues right now. we now have in large part because of you and organized labor the strongest economy in the whol