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happening now, the prosecution is cross-examining jennifer crumbley, the mother of the oxford michigan school killer. we have heard rapid-fire questions from the prosecutor, trying to break down crumbley's previous testimony. >> this morning, the prosecutor started with questions about time spent on her work, on her life, on her family dynamic, and also pressing her on new details about time she spent in an extramarital affair. the prosecutors also pressed her on the disturbing drawings from her son, drawings that tipped off school administrators hours before the shooting happened. >> this is the meat of their case. crumbley offered often in one-word replies and acknowledged that her son was acting, how she described as, depressed, in the months ahead of that deadly shooting. i'm sara sidner with kate
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bolduan and john berman. this is "cnn news central." we want to bring in jean casarez and mark o'mara. we are watching the crux of the prosecution's case in this cross-examination. jean, bring us up to speed as to what we're listening to and how important the testimony is right now. >> the prosecution is really jumping around, and they're doing that intentionally. they want to break her. they're really focusing in on 2021. all the testimony she had about soccer practice and bowling and we went on vacations, they want to disregard. they want to hone in on that time right before the shooting because they want to show not only child neglect but this gross, gross negligence that she didn't care about her son at all. going through text messages, and you only three times was love ever mentioned. one time, it was about something actually that didn't have any significance to ethan. so they're really focusing in on that. one thing, they're going to try
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to show she's a liar. the four phones, when they were in the industrial building, that were the tracking phones that they'd gotten because their own cell phones were taken away, what we've heard is that they were turned off. but she testified yesterday they had their alarms set for 6:00 a.m. saturday morning because they were going to go turn themselves in. he made her admit, i believe, just minutes ago, that the cell phones were turned off, but she testified the alarm was set for :00 6:00 a.m. trying to catch her in lies, that she's not being honor on the stand. >> mark o'mara, what is the bar the prosecution feels like it needs to get over here to prove guilt of involuntary manslaughter, which is a novel prosecution theory here when dealing with the parent of a mass killer? what is the bar they need to reach, and how do you think they're going about it in this cross-examination right now? >> so, one, it's very novel. two, the bar that they need to reach, not legally -- legally, i'll tell you what it is.
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they have to show she was acting in a grossly negligent way. negligence is where you don't pay attention to what's going on. gross negligence is where it's put in your face and you almost are willfully blind to what's going on. so much so, the jury will sit back and say, we will not give you a pass on this. but that's the legal side of it. the moral side of it, the way they really want to play to this jury, is they have to continue to chip away at her so this jury just doesn't like her. it's not in the jury instructions, if you don't like her, convict her, but the harsh reality is, this is a mom who was supposed to be taking care of her son. there's moms and fathers on that panel. if this prosecution does the job they're trying to do right now through cross-examination, to make this jury dislike her, and they'll do that by these many lies, these deceptions, these untruths, then that is going to help them get to the point where they're going to like her enough to say, we're not giving you a break on the parenting you
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should have been doing. >> both of you, if you could please stick with us, we're going to jump back in, get back into the courtroom testimony happening right now. control room tells me they're asking questions now about a fight that jennifer crumbley has had with her son previously. >> right? >> correct. >> there's nothing stopping you on november the 30th, 2021, from taking him home? >> correct. >> nothing stopping you. actually, i want to go back to what you just said. you took his gun away. >> we took the shooting range away. >> you said you took his gun away. >> no, i said we took the shooting range away. >> your son could have been with you those three, four, five times a week when you were at the barn? >> he could have, yes. >> your son could have been with you on those times when you were with either mr. meloche or somebody else? >> no. >> in the week nights, after
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school, after work? >> i wasn't with mr. meloche at those times. >> the other individuals then. >> i wasn't with them either at those times. >> according to -- >> i might have messaged meme at those times, but i was not with anybody at those times. >> he could have been with you on the halloween party? >> he did not want to go. it was a bunch of little kids. >> and on november 30th of 2021, at 12:51 p.m., you could have been with him? >> i could have, yes. >> and you didn't. >> nope. >> nothing further. >> redirect? >> thank you. mrs. crumbley, i have two areas of questions for you. mr. keast played some recordings. who were you on the phone with in those recordings? >> my dad. >> okay. so you asked a couple of questions about calories, and then what was the other one? >> i guess the child tax credit. >> okay. how often did you speak with your dad?
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>> during the summer, it was every day. they went back to work, and it was just on the weekends. they're both teachers. >> how many hours a day did you spend -- do you spend with other people? >> sometimes it's none. sometimes it's when they walk by my cell, i'll talk to them. i'm locked down 23 hours a day. i get one hour out by myself. i talk to my clergy lady weekly, so i see her. sometimes i talk to the church priest, or i'll talk to my attorney. that's about the most human contact i get. >> so i guess one of my questions is, when you do talk to people, you talk about -- are there more conversations than just those? >> right, there are. >> okay. and then that night, on december 3rd going into the 4th, after --
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there was one phone being used, that right? >> correct. >> whose phone was being used? >> it was my burner phone. >> who was using the phone? >> my husband was using the phone. >> okay. were you also using it? >> i was using my other phone. he used my burner phone, and i used the one with our regular phone number to do anything on. >> okay. so these messages are from the burner phone -- >> correct. >> we're listening to redirect. that is jennifer crumbley's defense attorney right there. let me bring back in jean c casarez and mark o'mara. jean, from the layman's perspective, it seemed like a relatively short kr cross-examination from the prosecutors. what do you think? >> i'm surprised, it was very short. you have to think about the jury out there. jury members are inches away from jennifer crumbley. i've been in that courtroom, and they are right to her left. there are 12 of them that will be deciding the fate, and, as you look at this and you look at all the jumping around, all the
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different things, and points were made, but are jurors who are parents, and many of them are parents, saying, okay, how many times did i tell my child i loved them in a text? are they relating to their own life? >> sorry, we're getting information from the control room, jean. i'm told that the jury is being excused. they're going to be in recess for ten minutes, is what i'm being told. let's continue, though. mark, what do you think of this short cross? >> i'm very surprised. you know, i would have spent a lot more time as the prosecutor. this was the prosecution team's opportunity to make sure that jury does not like her because of the deceit, because of the lack of parenting, because of everything that she didn't do that they want to say she should have done. it almost seemed like he just
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stopped without having another question. just look, tactically, you always end on a crescendo. the idea of, you could have been with him this day just didn't really fall very well on the jury. you really want to hit that last thing, you know, the recency and privacy that we talk about that jurors carry. quite honestly, i thought it fell flat. generally speaking, the prosecution has done a good job, but that was their opportunity to really sink home the fact that this lady is such a bad parent, not only bad parenting, but so bad that she should be held criminally responsible. i think they missed opportunities. >> mark and jean, there's often sort of a gut punch at the end where the prosecutor wants to leave something with the jury. that didn't happen in this cross. it sort of ended. so it's been interesting to watch this. but there was so much information that came out. the affair and what was happening, how she was texting back and forth with the person she's having an affair with, other people were involved, that her son was texting while she was with the person she was having an affair with. all these things the jury is looking to.
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the burner phones and the money, $6,000 in her purpose when she found out she was going to be charged with involuntary manslaughter. the jury is listening to every detail, and it is surprising for a lot of people who don't live their lives this way. we'll get back to this. there is a ten-minute break for the jury. we will back when they come back. you'll see it all happen live.
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we are standing by right now to see president biden in delaware. this morning, he is going to dover air force base where he and the military will honor those three american service members who were killed in a drone strike in jordan. in his most solemn of duties, biden will attend the dignified transfer of sergeant kennedy sanders, sergeant br breonna moffett, and sergeant william rivers. before the dignified transfer, the president will privately meet with the grieving families, i understand. what more are you learning? >> reporter: he will, sara, and it'll certainly be an emotional moment for the families of those three service members who were killed in that attack in jordan. really for president biden, this is the most somber and solemn of duties he has as commander in chief, as he will be on hand for the dignified transfer of their remains. president biden and first lady jill biden are making their way to dover, delaware, right now, and he will spend, according to his schedule, a little over an hour with the families of those
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three service members. sergeant william rivers, as well as two army specialists, kennedy sanders and breaonna moffett. both were promoted to sergeant. biden made a phone call tuesday and spoke to each of the families of the fallen soldiers. the white house says that in those conversations, he gauged whether they would want him to be on hand for the dignified transfer. each of the families said that they would like him to be there. this will be the second time president biden in his role as commander in chief has attended a dignified transfer. you'll remember back in 2021, he was on hand at dover air force base when the remains of the 13 servicemen and women killed in a terrorist attack outside of the t kabul airport gates in afghanistan, he was on hand.
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it was filled with raw emotion and anger from some of the families who met with president biden. there were some who weren't even sure if they wanted to meet with the president at that time because they were so frustrated over how that afghanistan withdrawal had unfolded. president biden today will have some time to meet one-on-one with the families, really giving him a chance to hear the stories about their loved ones, hear their concerns. of course, president biden has often used these moments to talk about his own experience with grief, talking about the death of his young baby daughter and wife in a car accident, and then also the death of his son, beau biden, who had served in iraq and later had brain cancer, which he ultimately su ly succuo when he was back in the united states. this is an opportunity for the president to play the role of comforter in chief, a role he's played all too often. he will have that personal time with these families ahead of the dignified transfer, as they are there to mourn the loss of their loved ones. >> i know you brought us last
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hour the conversation he had on the phone with the sanders family, and it was gripping and touching to listen to the president and the family talk about grief and how he got through it, trying to give them some advice. it was touching. thank you so much, arlette saenz, appreciate it. john. new this morning, fulton county d.a. fani willis, the woman spearheading the georgia election subversion case against donald trump, has been subpoenaed by the judiciary committee. lawmakers are demanding drumts documents related to her use of federal funds. she must respond today to allegations she had an inappropriate relationship with the lead prosecutor in the georgia election case. cnn national security reporter zach cohen is with us with the latest on all of this. zach? >> reporter: yeah, john, the subpoena from chairman of the house judiciary committee jim jordan is demanding documents related to how willis' office used federal funds, federal grant money, and it is part of a broader investigation into willis and into her office that
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jim jordan initiated as the investigation into donald trump and his 14 co-defendants in georgia was really ramping up. you know, there is an undeniable political element to this. jim jordan is a close ally to former president donald trump. he has used his chairmanship in part as chairman of house judiciary committee to pursue investigations that are politically advantageous to donald trump. it is the latest example, as you mentioned. it comes as fani willis is facing this deadline in the criminal case to respond to allegations that she had this improper romantic relationship with her top prosecutor and financially benefitted from the relationship. really, you know, another drop in the bucket. this ramping up of pressure on fani willis. you're seeing it from all ends of the spectrum, from congress to state-level lawmakers in georgia to even the former president's comments himself. >> keep us posted. thank you very much. kate? a blockbuster of a jobs report out this morning, blowing through expectations in this january report.
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what that means for you at home. at the very same time, there is now polling out this morning showing americans might be feeling better about the economy. we've got much more ahead.
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jobs in january. that is double what economists had expected. the unemployment rate has been below 4% for two full years. the last time the unemployment rate was this low for this long, richard nixon was in the white house. these continue to be relentlessly good economic numbers being produced by this economy. on top of really strong gdp, in fl inflation that is stable, and it is beginning to add up. there is new cnn polling which shows that americans are beginning to feel this, at least in little bit. in the new cnn poll, we asked, things are going well in the country today. if people agree with that statement. now, it doesn't look like a good number, only 35% say things are going well. that is still low, but it is a lot higher than it's been for most of the last two years.
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you can see at different points, it's been as low as 21%. this matches a high over the last two years. it's felt by members of all political persuasions. d democrats, 62% say things are going well, a jump from the fall. independents, 32% say things are going well. again, the number is not high, it's quite low, but it is a jump from the fall. republicans, only 14% say things are going well, but that number double what it was in the fall. as for the credit that president biden is or is not getting about this, how is president biden handling the economy? 37% approve. again, that's a low number, but you can see, it is higher than it was in november. his disapproval number on that is going down, as well. the policies, how have president biden's policies affected u.s. economic conditions? again, the numbers in a vacuum, not good for the president, 55%
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say those conditions he has worsened with his policies, but those numbers better for him than they were in august. improved conditions, 26% say he has but, again, better than they were in august. now, when you look at this in totality, how is your financial situation changed in the last year? this is the question we keep asking. why? as we keep saying, in some ways, there are economic numbers here that are better than they've been in generations. the unemployment rate below 4% this long hasn't happened since richard nixon was president. we asked, how has your financial situation changed in the last year? only 20% say they are better off. 42% say they were worse off. this number has to be of concern to the white house, even though, even though that situation is improving. you can see almost half of people said they were worse off over the last year in 2022. that number creeping up right
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now. we'll see if the numbers that keep oncoming back, very good on gdp, unemployment, job growth, if those continue to improve the sentiment the american people have on this. >> all good points, john. the economy is growing strong. we're seeing the numbers. and that should be good for joe biden as the campaign part presidency is in full swing. in the last few days, the campaign, all of them, have turned into a string of name calling from each candidate, albeit, some from behind closed doors. donald trump says joe biden is the worst president in the history of the country. nikki haley calls donald trump too old and tantrum-prone to be president. politico reporting that joe biden reportedly said behind closed doors that donald trump was a sick f-word. i'm joined by political congressmen caters and former south carolina state representative, b and, mara, i' start with you. these numbers are shockingly strong, not what was predicted
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by the experts that watch this economy. how are the republicans going to deal with this? it can't be a point on the trail for much longer. >> i think what it shows us is a lot can change in the next, you know, six to nine months. if these numbers continue to trend the way they are, it's a net positive for joe biden. there are a lot of people who perhaps don't enjoy trump's inability to control himself and his comments and truly his juvenile behavior, but they can't continue to support or won't support a joe biden and kamala harris administration because of the way things are now with the border, with the economy, and how they're not feeling it in their pockets right now. there is an opportunity for joe biden to capitalize on this, for sure. >> your thoughts? >> the great american poet, jz, said, men lie, women lie, numbers don't, right? >> of course you brought that up. >> what i'm seeing is numbers do not lie.
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the economy is getting stronger. it's continuously gotten stronger. particularly here in south carolina, let's talk about black voters, right, who are going to be particularly in places like michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia, north carolina, very, very important. the second highest unemployment rate in the country was under donald trump. the highs being under ronald reagan. for a full year, the black unemployment rate was under 6%. the lowest in history was under joe biden, right? these numbers really matter. what has to happen, though, and i hope the white house is listening clearly, the numbers are telling the truth about the economy but people still necessarily are not feeling it in their pockets. that's why joe biden being in michigan with uaw workers, kamala harris being in south carolina today, these things matter so they can hear that pain from voters and be able to articulate how they met the moment and will continue to meet the moment. >> yeah, the messaging is important, is what you're saying. because we're talking about
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south carolina, and that is the home state of nikki haley, she is now really going after donald trump in a way we have not been seeing. she says he's too old, too confused, too chaotic, and too c tantrum prone to be president, a jab likely to infuriate trump, she warns he lacks the money to mount a proper white house run. bakari, what do you think of the comments as we're going into the pry imary in south carolina? >> i mean, i think is nikki haley confused? she's stealing my talking points. the fact that nikki haley is, like, utilizing democratic talking points to attack the former president of the united states, i mean, we love it. look, she can stay in the race as long as she wants if this is what she's going to do. this is something that if she wanted to win, it probably had to be done months ago. the campaign of being trump light is not successful for anybody. if she wants to take -- i mean, it's true, the blessing of nikki haley right now is that she's telling the truth about donald
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trump with conservative nbona fided. she is a conservative governor, she was. she's a tried and true conservative, actually more so than donald trump. she's telling the truth about the person who will be the nominee. i believe nikki haley will be very helpful for democrats when it comes to independents and college-educated white women, where this race will be won and lost. >> maura, when you hear this from nikki haley, i mean, what are your thoughts? is she hurting donald trump's chances at all, or, you know, the polling shows he's still doing quite well? >> i don't think these are democratic talks points. they're speaking for a large majority of americans who do believe that when you look at the races, what it might be if it is a joe biden verse donald trump again, they're both old. they're both showing, you know, lapses in mental acuity and abilities to handle different things at one. yes, to bakari's point, you know, it is a little late in the game to be doing it and i wish she'd done it, as we both probably were saying these exact points months ago, but it is important to highlight the issues that come with a donald
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trump candidate. you know, in talking about fundraising and, as she mentioned, he's spending how much in legal fees, the fundraising which is doing is for himself. it is not to go out and campaign to win back a large majority in the house or to go win the senate. he's not helping any candidates, people who are eager to win a race. you know, i think that should really speak to not only the republican party but the american people in general. not only can donald trump, you know, not control himself, obviously in the courtroom or his outbursts or things of that nature, but he also is not looking to advance anyone's interests except for his own. it's something that i think people should really be paying attention to, and i'm glad she's finally calling it out. see if it makes impacts. >> didn't hurt him in places like iowa, not that badly in places like new hampshire, though nikki haley did get some pretty good numbers there. bakari, "politico," some reporting out today about how president biden refers to former president trump. it says the president has
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ascribed trump as a sick f-word who delights in other people's misfortunes. your thoughts? >> i mean, i think it's an accurate description, but that is not necessarily what's going to win you the race. this race is unique, and i think maura may agree with me, i think most people who have dealt in politics and watch it will tell you this isn't a persuasion race. people have their opinion about joe biden. they have their opinion about donald trump. name-calling is not -- there's not somebody who will be, like, i realized today that donald trump is a sick f-word. that's not going to happen. this is about getting voters to the polls. these two people don't like each other, but i will tell you this, joe biden has been one of the most successful grandparents in the history of the united states of america. we know he's old, but the numbers are telling that he has been a good leader so far. >> you have infrastructure, a lot of people recently republicans were praising, but they'd voted against.
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it's been interesting to see all of this play out in this political time. bakari sellers, maura gillespie, thank you so much for coming on. kate? we have new word and new timing out of new york on when exactly the federal judge is going to hand down his decision on the hate of donald trump's business empire. the next move in donald trump's civil fraud trial. details coming up. and the defense has just rested its case in the trial of jennifer crumbley, the mother of the michigan school shooter who is on trial herself. this morning, we've been tracking and watching along with you jennifer crumbley's second day on the stand. prosecutors cross-examining her. the court is in recess. prosecutors need to decide if they have more case to lay out or if this now races toward closing arguments in this unprecedented trial. we'll be back.
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new this morning, there is new timing in the verdict in the civil fraud trial against donald trump. mid-february now, that's according to a court spokesperson. judge arthur engoron, still deliberating, is considering the argument that trump and his company should pay $370 million for fraudulent claims. in the meantime, allen wi weisselberg who was trump's chief financial officer in his real estate empire is on the verge of pleading guilty for the second time. cnn's katelyn polantz is with us now. let's start with the timing here from judge engoron, who initially told us january 31st, he'd have a verdict. >> reporter: john, it takes time to write a verdict.
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we're waiting for this wherein opinion from judge engoron who heard the trial that went on for months in the fall and into december. they closed the trial about three weeks ago, and the judge had said publicly he was hoping to come to a decision on the damages that the trump organization should face by the end of january. that obviously didn't happen. we're into february. now, a court spokesperson is saying publicly, it might not be until mid-february, a couple weeks, and things could change still for when there might be a final decision from the judge on what should happen here to the trump company, what they should be facing for the result of this suit from the attorney general's office in new york, accusing trump and his organization of civil fraud and asking for $370 million in a reward there to the state and additional punishment for trump and the company. there is a long arm here. we're not just waiting for the judge's decision on damages here. we are also watching to see
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exactly how quickly. a court-appointed monitor looking at the ecocompany is sag there's inconsistenciesyies and there needs to be changes in the business and how they're reporting. on top of that, as you mentioned, the former cfo, allen weisselberg of the trump organization, already serving a jail sentence for unrelated tax fraud charges, he is potentially getting the squeeze from manhattan district attorney prosecutors as they look to take trump to trial for his business practices, as well, that there is a possibility of new charges against allen weisselberg. >> all right. katelyn polantz, thank you very much for that. we have new reporting today on how donald trump's legal team is preparing for the u.s. supreme court in oral arguments before the justices next week. at stake is -- this one is about whether or not donald trump will be allowed to appear on the 2024 primary ballot in colorado. the colorado supreme court, you may remember, ruled that donald trump could not because of his role on january 6th.
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now what? cnn has some new reporting on this. joan, what are you learning? >> reporter: kate, the stakes could not be higher. it'll affect who is on the potentia presidential ballot and could affect who becomes president. there's pressure on these lawyers and the two lawyers who will argue next thursday, kate, are relatively inexperienced. jason murray, who is representing the colorado voters who want trump off the ballot, has never appeared before these justices. jonathan mitchell, who is representing donald trump, has had a couple cases up there but none of this magnitude. both these lawyers have other strengths, but in terms of just going up there and facing these nine justices, they need practice. this is what they're doing now. they both moved their operations to washington, d.c., as of today, to do all sorts of networking with sophisticated lawyers who argued many cases before the supreme court. one of the most common practices for a lawyer getting ready for
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the justices are dry runs known as moot courts. these feature four or five lawyers who play the role of the nine justices, and not just give the lawyers practice but help them expose the weaknesses in their cases, maybe figure out ways to amend things that just don't land right. to also strengthen the points that the lawyer wants to get across because, kate, these lawyers will field dozens and dozens of questions, so they have to be ready with answers. they've also got to be ready, more importantly, to constantly pivot the justices to their central point. who do you get to do these? organizers of moot courts turn to repeat players before the court, and a good place for that is anyone who served in the u.s. solicitor general's office. that's the main set of lawyers who argue for the federal government. those people, former law clerks
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and all sorts of other repeat players take the roles of chief justice john roberts, elena kagan, brett kavanaugh, all nine, just to get someone ready for next thursday, kate. >> yeah, i mean, standing up before those justices, if anyone ever sat through those, it's a different beast. it's a beast all on its own. then with the unprecedented nature of what the justices could be deciding here and doing here, it adds an entirely new level to all of this. good to see you, joan. thank you. sara? coming up, humpback whales, once on the brink of extinction, made a spectacular comeback. now, scientists say they're facing their biggest existential threat. this is a great story. we'll have bill weir come in and explain.
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this sunday cnn will take you to the far corners -- i know, corners, reaches, you decide what shape of the earth for a special report on the climate crisis. cnn's bill weir embedded with a team of researchers tracking humpback whales to reveal how the crisis is impacting them and how they might actually help beat it. bill is here. tell me more! tell us more. >> they are the biggest allies we have, literally the biggest allies on the planet and it is so good we saved them from oblivion because when i was a little boy they were on the brink of extinction. it is a great story of conservation.
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a couple of years ago someone said let's figure out the value of a whale. the services it provides over its 60-year life, $2 million all thanks to their poo. >> of course. >> and then they hit the jackpot. >> oh, we got poo. >> reporter: whale stool sample. >> nice. >> you got a good chunk. >> that should be plenty. >> look at that. >> that's the goal. >> that's the goal. >> that is the goal. >> there we have the poo. >> reporter: new science finds that when it comes to earth repair, whale poo has massive value. you see, when wailers wiped out 95% of the whales we lost the planet's biggest fertilizer pumps. one pod can take important nutrients from deep water and spread them across miles of ocean surface water, feeding the phytl plankton which feeds
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everything from seals to whales. >> they're the gardners of the ocean. >> instead of thinking of a food chain going one end to the other and stopping, it is much more like a circle. they're literally seeding the upper parts of the ocean with the opportunity for plant life to grow which gives the whale food. in a sense they're basically farmers. they're recycling nutrients. there's more food available to them the more they're around. >> whale laxatives, john berman just suggested. >> the answer to all of our issues. >> it is all about. >> it is. but let them do their thing and come back. there's a little moreover a million whales now bouncing back of all species. this economists say we get 4 million on the planet we could draw down as much carbon as three or four amazon rain forest, and new artificial intelligence is helping us understand the conversations. a team in alaska had a 20-minute conversation with a humpback whale, playing back and forth.
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we are just beginning to understand our biggest planetary roommates. >> it is mind blowing. >> those pictures were beautiful. where were you? >> in the antarctic peninsula. we sailed out of argentina. >> you work for the same company? how do you get these? >> i cashed in a lot of frequent flyer flyer miles, and then used coupons. when they get in the tropics it is like spring break. they're mating and jumping. we went all over the world. i confronted one of the last whale hunters in iceland about his trade. it is one of the best hours we put together. >> we have gotten it wrong. all of these years we were like save the whales, save the whales, they're saving us. >> exactly. we saved them the first time, and if we can do it as a byproduct we will save all of life on earth. >> sunday at 9:00 he comes here and shows us wonderful pictures. i cannot wait to see this. >> that is sunday night.
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