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>> [ music ] happening right now, closing arguments in the jennifer crumbley trial are underway. the defense is now presenting. prosecutors ended by telling the jury that the mother of the oxford high school shooter knew something bad was going to happen, and had done the unthinkable. they painted crumbley as a distracted parent who ignored her son and dismissed his pleas for help. she now faces four counts of involuntary manslaughter. cnn's gn is here. the defense is now presenting their closing arguments, what are you listening to? >> let me give you little bit from shannon smith, the defense attorney, she started out by saying real life is messy, it is complicated. and she said that jennifer crumbley took the stand and admitted her messy life.
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she talked about the nooks and crannies of her life, and then she went on to say, can a parent be responsible for everything out there that their child does? and she went on to say that -- that this case is a first of its kind, and now she said we are going to list for you a reasonable doubt. you just need one reasonable doubt. and starting with that they were so focused and determined to charge the parents in this case. so, she has got a lot of energy, she is really going, but the prosecution, the elected county attorney, carrie mcdonald testified, and at the end, she focused on all of the gross negligence that was found in this case, which would provide for the beyond reasonable doubt conviction, take a listen. >> she would have stopped at home on the way back from the meeting, she goes right by her home to see where the gun was.
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she could have stopped on the way back to work. she could have searched the backpack. she could have asked her son where the gun was, she could have locked the ammunition, she could have locked the don, she could have taken him home, she could have taken him to work point he was dora dashing. she could have told the school that they just gifted him a gun. she could have embraced her son. she could have said [ indiscernible ] she could have looked at him and said, i care about you, i love you. she could have at least acknowledged he was in the room. she could have told the school about her son being in crisis previously and asking for help. >> and the prosecution should be having a rebuttal close after the defense, that's what normally happens, because they do have the burden here. that offense was just focusing in on the fact that it was not
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foreseeable that he would go and permit a mass shooting. that he really is life and everyone else's life, and then to the defense points to jennifer convery, if she had known about this, if it was foreseeable, she would not have allowed that to happen. boris? >> jean, thank you so much. let's listen in now to defense attorney shannon smith and her closing arguments. >> he would read about in my text messages, which by the way, i did not respond to you, despite the fact that it is in our express and family group, would be taken out of context and make me look like i don't really care that my daughter is crazy. i also got text one day, we have no food in our house, i am absolutely starving, you are the worst mother ever. and you know what i did? i ignore it. she was mad we didn't have the right kind of chicken ramen when we have four other flavors
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of ramen, and there is about 100 other things she can eat, and i knew she was not going to starve to death, but taken out of context, it makes me look like a neglectful mother. but if you know all the circumstances and you know the relationship i have with my daughter, i knew it was an overdramatic, stupid point. so, when you see messages from mrs. crumbley's son saying, will you at least call back, those are so out of context. and when i am driving home every day, i am getting messages, will you at least call back, and i don't, because i know what they want is for me to run through the mcdonald's drive-through and bring everyone a coke. i do stop and get myself a coke, but i am not getting drinks every day for everyone and i realized it is not -- it
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is easier to not answer the phone. >> we have been listening to shannon smith the defense attorney for jennifer crumbley. let's discuss now with legal analyst and civil rights attorney martin. you have been listening to some of these closing arguments, what you make of this? >> reporter: i have to tell you, boris, the style and mannerism of this defense attorney, i think it may be offputting. she uses a lot of sarcasm, and i just think for a case of this nature, four kids are dead, seven individuals were injured in the school shooting, this is the most serious case anyone can be a part of and i think stature and her demeanor are not appropriate for this case. and i don't like these references she is making about what happens when her kids texter about mcdonald's, i guess she is trying to show that all parents don't automatically respond to their kids, but that is not the fax year, those aren't the facts here. we have a mother that showed up out of school, was presented
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with a drawing that was so disturbing, a mother who knew that her son had been gifted a gun, a mother who didn't know where the key to the case for that gun is, a mother who had said that her son had been depressed, and the fact that she did not think did not interact with her son, did not take him out of school, did not try to comfort him in that moment, those are the facts that these jurors are going to be looking at, and i just so far haven't heard anything in this defense closing that i think is going to counter what i think was a very powerful closing argument by the prosecution. >> stepping back, what about the defense only calling jennifer crumbley as a witness? that was it, they closed as soon as her testimony was done. >> yeah, i was surprised by that was surprised by a couple things today, boris. one, i thought the cross- examination on the part of the prosecution would have been longer. i thought there were some missed opportunities there that the prosecution didn't take
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advantage of. i think he could have done a much more thorough job in bringing out some of these facts, these missteps on the part of this mother that point to gross negligence. and i was surprised that there was no defense witnesses called. i was expecting to see someone that maybe could speak on behalf of jennifer and talk about this close relationship that she wants this jury to believe she had with her son, so i was surprised me at least it didn't see one witness, a family member or someone, to talk about how much she loved her son and what a very involved parent she was. >> i am wondering what you make of her testimony from the perspective of credibility, because there were moments where she was contradicting previous credibility, or rather previous testimony, and so it jurors ultimately have to decide who is the more credible witness, some of those guidance counselors at the school or ethan crumbley's mother. what did you think of her performance as a witness?
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>> yeah. again, didn't like her performance as a witness. four kids are dead, i can't even imagine being on the witness stand and not weeping for the entire testimony. not only are four innocent students are dead, my son, her son is serving life in prison. so, any parent that is so nurturing, so loving i she wants this jury to believe she has, i can't imagine how you get through that without being so emotional. and there were, as you said, lots of times when she contradicted the testimony of other witnesses in this case. now, that happens all the time in trials, and that's what juries have to do, they have to wait credibility, they have to determine who is more credible, they look at demeanor, they look at how that testimony is delivered, a look at your involvement in the case, and all of those things go into them determining who they should believe. >> areva martin, always appreciate getting your perspective, thank you so much. >> thanks, boris.
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let's of course, we are going to keep monitoring the case and give you the latest as we get it. brianna? >> let's turn out to the race for the white house. a new poll out today showing former president trump with a razor thin margin over president biden in a hypothetical rematch. 45% supporting biden. it was a different story yesterday when a national poll found biden beating his likely republican opponent by six points. the new cnn polling is also giving us a snapshot into how americans are feeling about the country. 35% saying things are going well. and i know that number seems small, but it is actually an improvement from the 28% who felt positively about the u.s. last fall. and when it comes to the economy, biden is facing an uphill battle with the majority of voters saying biden's economic policies have worsened economic conditions, but his numbers two, are little better
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than they were last fall. let's discuss all this further with republican strategist dave wilson. dave, thanks for taking the time here. let's start with the national polls, what you are reading into them, especially as we are seeing this flip-flopping, one day biden leading, one day trump, no clear leader. what do you think? >> the best paul that you could ever have is the one that actually happens on election day. until that point, you have got a lot of sway that can go back and forth. it depends on what is happening in the economy and what is happening in the news. biden is traveling around, trying to win the votes he needs on the democratic side, so there is a lot of back and forth that we are going to see, and as we get closer, brianna, to election day, it will become more and more clear how americans swing voters, and that is the ones we really have to pay attention to, are going to be swaying their votes as we get closer to november. >> polls have biden and trump statistically tied here, but
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when you put biden against nikki haley, she beats biden, it is not a tie. what does that tell you about the dynamics that a trump or a biden might want to exploit going into a general, assuming that trump is going to be the nominee. >> if that is the case, then trump is going to have to find a way to bring a level of youth and vigor into what nikki haley said earlier this week, two 80- year-old white men running for the president of the united states. i was in washington yesterday meeting with congressional leaders, and you begin to realize that there is a wave of new blood that is going to be coming in over the next four to eight years, because we are in the one generation of leadership on the national front and we have got another one coming in, and that's what nikki haley is trying to say right now, and that is probably the message that donald trump is going to have to bring a level of vigor to the messaging, so he cannot only get past the personality of donald trump, but also get to
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the appeal to a new group of voters that he has not yet. >> dave, why isn't the electability here playing more of a role in the thinking of republican voters when you square nikki haley off against jill biden and she does much better? but then you look at this latest monmouth university poll out of south carolina and you have trump leading haley by 36%. >> there are two factors that i think play into this, brianna, the first being the fact that donald trump brought new voters to the electorate back in 2016. you could identify by 2020 those folks who were trump voters, that were first time voters in 2016's presidential preference primary, they are the ones who participated in 2016's presidential, 2020s presidential, and that is a group of voters that are engendered and endeared to the personality and the plurality of donald trump's persona. when you take a look at what
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nikki haley is looking at or joe biden for that matter, they are trying to appeal to a liberal group of voters, nikki haley to a more moderate group of republicans, joe biden trying to reach as broad of a swath as he possibly can, but trump had a very clear group of people who had said, as we have heard from different folks on the ground here in south carolina, if it is not trump on the ballot, i don't know if i am going to be voting. >> i want to correct myself, it was a 26 point spread, that is still huge, still a big problem for nikki haley in the monmouth university pulpit haley now saying that trump is too old, he is too confused, too chaotic to tantrum prone to be president, and a job that is especially likely to infuriate him. she is warning he doesn't even have the money to mount a proper white house run. if you think that is going to change anything in south carolina, though? >> i don't necessarily think it is going to change anything in
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south carolina, and one of the factors that goes into that is the broad group of elected officials who are supporting donald trump. keep in mind, nikki haley was governor of south atlanta seven years ago and more than 1 million people have moved into the state since she was governor. when you take a look at it from that standpoint, and the fact that she was very, very much trying to bring reform, and in doing so, do not necessarily engender great relationships with the legislature. a lot of those legislators don't have a short memory when it comes to that, they remember for a very long time how it was for them when they were in leadership in the legislature, and they are recognizing the fact that is not necessarily what they want to see what nikki haley. >> dave, it is great to have you come to take you through all of this, we really appreciate it. >> thinks science, brianna, have a great day. and the all-important paul, dave, i will say is coming very soon, that election day in south carolina. we will be waiting for that. boris? oh, coming up, the u.s. vowing
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to retaliate after the drone attack that killed three american soldiers, but when and how? we are going to head live to the pentagon next, and we are learning more about this fiery plane crash in florida that killed at least three people. good audio from the moment of the crash help investigators figure out what happened? we have these stories and much more coming up on cnn news central. >> [ music ]
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last hour, president biden attended the dignify transfer of the remains of three american servicemembers who were killed sunday in a drone strike was launched an iranian proxy group. and we now know according to u.s. intelligence that iran's leaders were caught offguard by that attack, they are nervous about retaliation here. as biden is ready and the last
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response, we say the country will not start a war, but also will not be bullied. we have not tosha bertran at the pentagon for us. we have been hearing a lot from iranian leadership here in the wake of this deadly drone strike, tell us about that. >> yeah, brianna, so these are ron blacked a mission -- they are preparing for the possibility that u.s. takes some kind of very significant action in response to the killing of those three u.s. service members. we have seen some iran backed militias pullback, released a statement earlier this week saying they're going to suspend their attacks on u.s. forces in the region, and we have seen some actually say they are going to continue to launch attacks on u.s. forces and they will not be intimidated, including another iran backed militia based in iraq. so, the reactions here have been kind of variant, but all seem to be preparing for the potential big strike, big series of strikes that the u.s. is going to carry out, it
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appears, in retaliation for the attack that killed those servicemembers. iran's president, as you mentioned, you said that while the iranians don't want to work, they also will not hesitate to respond if they are struck directly. however, we are told it is very unlikely that the biden administration is actually going to take that very dramatics step of actually striking iran. it is possible that the u.s. strikes certain iranian targets based in iraq and syria, but striking inside iran is very unlikely, just given the fact that the president has said very clearly that he does not want a war with iran. >> thank you so much for that report from the pentagon. boris? >> as the region braces for america's retaliation for that drone attack, negotiators right now are working to finalize another pause in the intra-hamas fighting, that would see the hostages held in gaza released. antony blinken will return to the region on sunday to advance those efforts, but in the meantime, the fighting is
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unrelenting, and israel's defense minister has hinted at the next phase of their assault on gaza. let's get the latest now from tel aviv with cnn's nic robertson. nick, what is the latest on the ground? >> yeah, after they get done, the idf finishes going after hamas, which is the big town in southern central gaza, the second city of gaza, if you will, and there has been that heavy military operation, high civilian casualties, they have been taking out hamas targets, collecting hamas weapons from weapons dumps that have been used there, but the next step in the military operation is this town that has always been on the table. the u.n. saying it is the pressure cooker there right now, half of the population in gaza is there, right along the border with egypt. they have got nowhere to go. there is about a quarter of 1 million people who live there
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already, they probably have brick structures, there are about 1 million displaced people there, the majority of those will be intense, plastic sheeting, that sort of thing. if there is a big military operation, and we understand it is the underneath the city where the idf expects the high- value, the leadership of hamas is, where the hostages are most likely being held. the possibility of high civilian casualties in the area is high at a time when there is a lot of scrutiny on israel to diminish the civilian death toll. but i think what we are looking at here, if you just look back a little bit, you are just mentioning it there in the lead in, that there is the possibility of a cease-fire to get more hostages released. well, that doesn't seem to be happening, because the latest from hamas is they don't seem to want to do the deal on the trends that have been proposed to them at the moment. going back to november when there was that humanitarian pause in the fighting for six
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days, that is what allowed about 100 hostages to be released, and that was in anticipation. when idf.don, you might get a similar sort of pause, which then could give breathing space to figure out, was the were going to go ahead into that city, would there be some kind of deal done that that wouldn't be necessary? that looks like it is not on the table anymore. so, the threat of the military force going in looks very real, and that has everyone worried. some of the people that say, look, we will have one place to run, and that will be over the border into egypt. >> nick robinson, thank you so much for the update from tel aviv. coming up, they have fled the city. where police believe four migrants accused of assaulting new york police officers are headed and how they were able to get away. >> [ music ]
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when you buy one unlimited line. and for a limited time, get the new samsung galaxy s24 on us. closed captioning brought to you by meso book.com. a senior law enforcement official tells cnn that four migrants arrested for assaulting two nypd officers have fled new york city after being released from custody without bail. according to the source, a faith-based organization gave them a bus ticket and they are currently headed to california town on the u.s.-mexico border. the source says law enforcement has no legal authority to change the suspects or to try to prevent their escape to mexico,
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meaning it is unlikely they will be back for a court date. cnn analyst john miller joins us now, john, what could be done potentially to try to keep them from leaving the country? >> well, not much right now by order of the court, since the district attorney's office did not request that bail be set in this case with those defendants. they were released on their own recognizance. so, theoretically, they could go anywhere in the united states or even into mexico and come back, as long as they showed up to their court date. the circumstances of how investigators believe they departed new york, which was to show up at a faith-based organization that has every ticketing operation, it is for people who were bus stop here from places like texas, if they want to get re-ticketed and go somewhere else, they can sign up with this organization and they will take care of the cost of the tickets. in this case, they were
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traveling under names that were not their true names, and more than one witness has identified them as the people involved in the assault. so, if investigators are right, that they have left new york, if they left under false names and they are going to california on the border with mexico, it seems highly unlikely they would be returning to to faith felony charges. >> john, new york, like other cities, has struggled to keep up with a recent surge in migrants, it has caused political tension between new york city mayor eric adams and the biden white house. this case obviously putting a spotlight on this issue, right? >> it is. and this incident has become a lightning rod, because what you see here is a violent attack against police officers trying to maintain order in front of a migrant shelter. the men being sought are all migrants. they are also people who have been arrested and charged with numerous criminal violations --
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robbery, arson, assault. since they have been here just a couple of months. and the effect on that is casting a very bad bite on a migrant population, probably 170,000 have passed through new york in the last year and a half, there are probably about 64, 65,000 here now. 90 to 95% of whom are hard- working people who are really here trying to find a new life and get a job, first of all to take care of themselves and send money home, and to take care of their families here. this has caused a shuttle to be cast across that community, which is really unfortunate for the honest, hard-working migrants, the people struggling , and the people trying to help them. >> john miller, thank you so much for the update. >> thanks, boris. we have some breaking news, actor, director, and former football player carl weathers has passed away. he is best known for his roles
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in rocky, predator, and happy gilmore. your kids probably know him as the voice of combat carl into a story or in the mantle oriented he died peacefully in his home, he recently turned 76 years old. >> carl weathers debuted on the silver screen in 1975 in the black exploitation film, bucktown. but he became a star playing the cocky boxing champ, apollo creed, and the 1976 hit, rocky. what started out as a low- budget sleeper won three academy awards, including best picture. >> the whole world is going to see the real apollo creed, lightning fast and hard to catch, no playing, just business. weathers appeared in three rocky sequels, playing rocky's nemesis, manager, and friend. the former linebacker with the oakland raiders earned a degree and drama from san francisco state university. he said he was inspired to
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become an actor watching sydney in the 1958 movie, the defiant ones. years later, weathers starred in its tv remake. along the way, he embodied the '80s strongman, sharing the big screen and death. and later, arnold schwarzenegger in predator. >> okay, okay, okay. >> weathers also took charge on the small screen and shows like fortune dane and tour of duty. but one brawl weathers felt gave him a chance to go deeper as an actor was chief of police in in the heat of the night. the part allowed him to grapple with tough social issues. >> now you're threatening to commit a serious crime, mr. buford. >> weathers appeared in the shows last two seasons, and said the more cerebral role was a break from backbreaking stunts for years. weathers found comic relief and his career as adam sandler's alligator hating golf
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instructor charles peterson and happy gilmore. in arrested development, he played a pda pinching acting coach. >> all i know is no shame. do you want to check or not? >> reporter: in 2019, weathers found a new young audience and the popular star wars series, the man delorean, playing the leader of an intergalactic bounty hunter. he received an emmy nomination for that role and directed many episodes of the show. >> it is always such a joy to provide entertainment for people who really enjoy what you do. >> carl weathers, an action start who lit up screens with heft and heart. >> [ music ]
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the state of connecticut plans to offer an unprecedented break from medical bills for thousands of its residents. today, the governor announced the state is going to cancel roughly $650 million of the medical debt for about a quarter million of its residents. he says $6.5 million in unused covid funds will be used to satisfy that debt. the white house reports that medical debt is the largest source of debt in collections, more than credit cards, utilities, and auto loans combined. joining us now is connecticut governor ned. thank you so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us. what ultimately led you to this decision and what is the
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process going to be like to implement it? >> yeah, boris point nice to see you. look, we have got a quarter million folks in the state of connecticut that got a cloud hanging over them, it is called medical debt, due to no fault of their own. they got sick, they ended up hospitalized, maybe there was some surprise billing, maybe there was a high deductible, whatever, just when they're on the mend trying to feel better, then they find out they have got this debt hanging over them, two to $5000. so, we are able to cancel debt for about 250,000 people, as you pointed out, left that cloud out from under them, help them get going again, basically if you want to let people get going, help them build wealth. you start by eliminating that debt, it is going to make a big difference in their lives. >> you mentioned the numbers, it comes to about one in 10 residents in your state that have medical debt in collections. why is that such a widespread problem? >> i think it's the high cost
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of healthcare, high deductible systems, some find there are surprises that come in, it is probably the biggest type of debt that leads to bankruptcy. we are trying to liberate people, get them that head start. you know, when you are coming out of an illness, last thing you need is a big bill hanging over your head. >> so, who qualifies for the program, how do people find out if they're eligible? >> mainly it is working family folks earning up to about $125,000 a year, paying 5% of their income in bad debt or medical debt expenses, trying to liberate them a little bit. we are now contracting with a not for profit, they will be going to these hospitals, seeing how much of this debt we can write down, we are doing this in association with the hospitals. >> i imagine there are viewers out there not from connecticut, wondering if this is something there governor might consider it have any other leaders
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reached out to you about this? >> yeah, connecticut is the first state in the country to do this on a statewide basis. we have had other outreach. as you pointed out, boris, it is 6 1/2 million, we are getting a 100 to one return on this. i think it is something more and more governors are going to be following up on, it liberates a lot of their citizens. >> i noted that you said something about the high cost of healthcare in one of the central contributing factors to having medical debt in collections like this. i am wondering what you think the white house or congress could do to potentially alleviate that problem on a national basis? >> well, i've got to hand it to the biden administration, the expansion of medicaid, what we are doing in the state of connecticut, we call it cover connecticut, all families earning less than $50,000 a year, we can take care of all of their healthcare costs, no
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deductibles, no out-of-pocket co-pays, make a big difference there, but we still have a way to go. >> yeah, it is one thing to cancel that and it is another one to prevent it from happening. what kind of steps do you think lawmakers at any level should take to try to keep folks out of this precarious situation? >> that's a great question, boris. first and foremost, primary care. make sure it more and more of those insurance dollars go to primary care, make sure that all of our citizens, no matter what their background, they get the option to see that dr., take care of some of the tests you need, things that could head off what could be a big problem later on. >> governor, i wanted to expand on something, because in sort of explaining your decision, you previously said that families of color are disproportionately affected by medical debt. you are hoping that by eliminating this, they will have more breathing room to build generational wealth point
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talk to us about that factoring into this. >> is a big deal. if you want to build wealth, you start by eliminating debt like this. we are working with their employers to pay down student debt as well, then we have a program in place to help people buy their first home. nothing is free, you're going to have to come up with half the down payment. we come in alongside. we have had thousands of people able to for their first home, maybe start a business, that is how you build wealth, get people ownership. ownership begins by eliminating debt like medical debt. >> and you have argued that this isn't just financial, canceling this debt helps alleviate a significant emotional toll facing connecticut families. i imagine you have spoken to folks that are in this situation, what is your message to them? >> you get whacked with a serious illness, you're in the hospital, you come out, you are
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hoping you are on the mend, then you find out, my gosh, my insurance didn't cover nearly as much of this as i thought it was going to be, that is a double whammy. we are trying to take that cloud out from under. i hear that from families all the time, i think it is much appreciated. i think you are going to see more of this around the country, there is such leverage you get for that down payment >> governor, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. >> nice to see you, boris, thank you. know that we are following some breaking news, the march for the trial date and president trump selection subversion case has been vacated, let's go right to cnn's caitlin moore on this, tell us what you are learning. >> brianna, the federal court has now said donald trump's trial date set for march in washington, d.c., that case about the 2010 election, election subversion, it is not going to happen as scheduled on march 4th. now, things were already moving toward that trial with jury selection set to begin next week. it can't happen, and the trial can't begin at the beginning of
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march, because there is too much on hold here point in this case right now, we are still waiting for a federal appeals court to make a decision on presidential immunity. the immunity and protection around the presidency and whether donald trump can be charged and tried in this case, and there are other things that have to happen before trial. and so, federal judge tanya chutkan in the d.c. district court, she is saying march 4th, it is off the counselor, vacated, postponed, that's where we are now. it is not going to be the first case against trump going forward when he faces criminal charges, and judge tanya chutkan says the court will set a new schedule if and when the case returns back to her court, once the appeals are over. brianna? >> all right, that is a big development that it is going to be postponed there. katelyn paul lance with the believers there, we will be right back.
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like a loud explosion. you can see from the video just how intense this fire was from this plane crash. as you noted, this all happened last night in clearwater florida. this is near tampa. the pilot and two people on the ground died. flight tracking data shows the pilot took off from vero beach on the east coast of florida. the pilot crossed over to the west coast and went down about three miles north of an airport in the clearwater area. here is another pilot describing the scene last night. >> it went into a house, i can't really tell. there is a lot of smoke. it definitely hit the house, it is demolished. >> breanna and boris, in all, four local homes caught fire
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and folks that were in the three homes in that surrounding area were able to get out. the names of the victims have not been released, and right now the faa as well as the national transportation safety board, they are investigating just what happened here. guys? >> thank you for that report. we will be right back.
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have you ever wanted something so badly you put yourself at great personal risk to get it? like potentially climbing into a clock machine? that is what happened to one determined toddler in australia.
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this is three-year-old ethan stuck in a claw machine after climbing in through the dispenser. >> i feel like this happens more than we realize. police had to come up with an out-of-the-box idea, so they asked him to back up into a corner, face away from the front , and then they shattered the glass in one swift below. ethan one of the top prize, the big hug from his parents. >> is that all he went home with? >> give the kid a toy, come on. are you surprised there is no like safety exit? i feel like ethan is not the first child that has tried but. >> modern problems come up with modern solutions. if you want it that bad, you should not listen to me. that is why i don't have kids yet. >> all right, the lead with jake tapper starts right now. a jury will soon decide if

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