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some smart people to break down the big stories. today we're asking, as the u.s. begins striking back for the drone attack that killed three american soldiers, are we on the brink of a wider war in the middle east? then, that's dope. democrats in congress pushing the white house for an historic change that could have more people smoking pot. and is apple's new product a vision of the future or just another high-tech toy. the panel is here and ready to go. so sit back, relax, and let's talk about it. up first, u.s. retaliation in the middle east. friday we saw the first of what's expected to be a series of air strikes in coming days against multiple targets that are linked to iran. this marks a new stage in the spiraling tensions. many fear it could pull the u.s.

into another all-out war. the u.s. hitting dozens of key targets in the middle east, the strikes retaliation for that drone attack that killed three american soldiers at a base in jordan, which the u.s. blames on iranian-backed militants. in a statement, president biden saying, while he doesn't seek war, quote, if you harm an american, we will respond. but in an already volatile region, some worry where this will lead. >> what concerns me the most is how many different ways this region could completely erupt into full-scale war. >> while more hawkish voices have demanded a strong response. >> the biden administration made a big mistake by coming out and immediately saying we're not going to do anything inside iran. >> since hamas' brutal october 7th attack on israel, iranian-backed proxies in the region, like the houthis in yemen and militant groups in

iraq and syria, have launched more than 200 attacks on u.s. forces because of american support for israel's war in gaza. a war that shows no sign of ending, with the death toll in gaza now at more than 27,000 people. and while president biden recently toughened his stance on israel -- >> we're quietly working with the israeli government to get them to reduce and significantly get out of gaza. >> quietly working may not be enough to get the u.s. out of its middle east bind. here with me today, podcaster cara swisher, president of the manhattan institute, and national review contributing editor, "new york times" journalist and podcast host, lulu garcia navarro, and author and conservative pollster, kristen anderson. welcome back, everyone. good to have you. as the u.s. begins its retaliation, and we're told it's

going to be over several days and a bunch of different targets, are we headed for a wider war in the middle east, and should the concerns over that constrain the u.s. response? >> we're already in a wider war in the middle east, we have been for some time right now. and, unfortunately, the biden administration's approach to this war has been feckless and incredibly dangerous. the biden administration came in to office in january of 2021 and made a big bet, they made a big gamble. that gamble was, let's take the foot off the gas, let's try to befriend the iranians, let's lower the temperature there, and focus elsewhere geopolitically. and what, in fact, happened is that iran used that sanctions relief, they used the fact that biden said let's befriend the iranians to fund their proxies, to strengthen their repressive apparatus, to supercharge their nuclear program. and october 7th was part of that and now we're bearing the fruit

of that terrible decision. >> how confident are you that biden and the u.s. national security team can calibrate its response to send a message to iran, don't mess with us, but without escalating into a wider war? >> it's great to have lindsey graham here. thank you so much for being here. it's all right to try to lessen tensions. we've been stuck in that region for so long. that said, they're really hitting them in military installations, intelligence areas and other areas. i think what happens, unfortunately, is we get pulled back in again and again and we're not able to pull out. so i suspect it's also linked to ukraine, all these places where we have to show a show of force, so we don't have to show force later in a much more significant way. >> the reason that iran's proxies are striking u.s. forces is, they say, because of u.s.

support for israel in its war in gaza. lulu, should the u.s. get tougher with israel to either end or to limit its war against hamas? >> i want to say, first of all, the fact of iran goes back to the trump administration when they pulled out of the nuclear deal, and that has actually desta destablized the region quite a bit. and the second thing i would say -- >> i hartily disagree. >> yes, i think at this point it is all to do with netanyahu's position in the gaza war. what we're seeing is a very unpopular leader who has very little support within his own country, and the incentive for him is to continue this war, this brutal attack in gaza because he is facing criminal charges inside his own country.

>> should the u.s. -- should biden get tougher with israel? >> yes, biden needs to get tougher. we're already seeing that. he has made some movement to start putting sanctions against some of the settlers in the west bank. i think he needs to get tougher. the problem is that netanyahu is not listening to the united states at this point. >> i strongly disagree. if you look at where we need to impose tougher sanctions, i would suggest starting with iran. the biden administration continues to have sanction waivers that are allowing iran to unleash assets they're using to kill americans and support the death and destruction in israel. this is profoundly dangerous. >> let me ask you this -- >> they killed se killed -- maxm

pressure worked. >> you would like to see the united states at this particular juncture bomb iran? is that what you think is going to resolve this? and make the united states safer? >> i would like the united states to retaliate in the coordinated campaign multi-front campaign that iran has been waging against the united states, our allies, and the people of israel. if you look at the houthis, if you look at hamas, if you look at hezbollah, what they all have in common is that they are financed, and to some degree trained and directed by the iranian government. >> you want to the united states -- to understand you, you would like the united states at this particular moment in time to get involved in a multi-lateral war in the middle east in a place that is already volatile because one of our allies is already involved in gaza in a war, and you would like to metastasize that, and you think somehow that is going to make america safer? i'm just trying to really understand what you're thinking. >> what i would like to do is

recognize that right now houthis, financed by iran and working in close coordination with iran, are attacking shipping, threatening to cripple the global economy. >> they are doing that because of the gaza war, a war that israel -- >> i'm sorry to say that -- >> i think this is part of the problem. >> let me ask about -- >> president biden removed them from the foreign tourist organization list. he did de-escalate. >> stop. >> what about the fact that everywhere that biden goes these days, that he's stopped, interrupted by pro-palestinian protesters who are blaming him for supporting israel? take a look. this is happening all over the place. [ crowd chanting ]

>> how worried should biden be about the -- not the protesters in and of themselves, but what it represents in terms of loss of support among arab americans, minorities as he seeks re-election? >> i think this is part of a broader problem of biden appearing weak, period, whether it is netanyahu doesn't want to listen, whether it is our adversaries in the middle east don't particularly care to listen to him or don't seem afraid, or even here domestically at home the left flank of his own party feels very empowered to at an event -- you just showed a clip of him talking about an agenda like abortion and they feel empowered to speak out and shut down his speech. i think this could have created an opportunity for him and maybe it had down the road where he stands up and says, no, i don't stand with people who are shutting down highways, i don't stand with people who are protesting outside the holocaust memorial, i don't stand with

people protesting outside -- >> do you think there's a chance he's going to do that with the pro-palestinian protesters, particularly when we're talking about arar ameb americans, and seeking re-election? >> i don't see him doing that. he tends toward going toward trying to figure it out and can't we all get along. it could look weak, you're correct in that way. i don't think you can control these protests. i was at an event at american university -- >> it's a political reality because michigan. there's a huge arab american population, michigan is a swing state, and we're facing a tight election. >> let me just say i asked a top white house official about it and his response was, well, things may look different by this summer. things may improve in terms of voters may have forgotten by then. we'll see. here in washington the focus is also on the border, or is it? we'll discuss the risky move by

republicans to bail on a bipartisan border bill in the midst of an immigration crisis. then planting a seed. the push to legalize marijuana. could it give president biden's campaign a high? and watching the super bowl for a price of a new car. is the big game worth that much? you're rich, kara. i mean, $10,000, $15,000, that's pocket change. >> no, thank you.

it's a sad, but true reality in washington. very little gets done during an election year, especially if it could help the other party. right now congressional republicans are nixing a potentially his spork immigration bill, despite getting president biden to cave

on several key issues republicans have been dreaming about. and one person who is not even in congress may be pulling the strings. >> and just trying to whitewash that for do something for political purposes, that's a nonstarter in the house. >> speaker mike johnson making it official, after months of negotiations, a bipartisan border deal will not get a vote in the house. >> it would be a shame if it failed. >> prompting accusations donald trump told republicans to kill the bill. >> i think they're make ago terrible mistake if they vote for the bill. >> so he can use the immigration issue against president biden. >> are you trying to kill this to help him on the campaign? >> that's absurd. >> the situation at the border is dire. december arrests were up 31% from november and topped the all-time monthly high. >> we have an unmitigated crisis. >> house republicans are set to kill a bill being negotiated by senate republicans and democrats that includes a gop wish list,

extradited asylum proceedings, limited use of parole, and closing the border once crossings hit a certain threshold, that plan that has sign-off from president biden. >> if that bill were the law today, i would shut down the border right now and fix it quickly. >> lulu, from a political viewpoint, which seems to be the prime consideration here, have trump and the republicans misplayed the immigration bill, in the sense that now the democrats and biden are going to be able to say we offered you a deal and you refused to take it? >> they're already saying that. they're going around and they're saying -- >> do you think that's effective? >> i think it's very effective. unfortunately what has happened is that you have a very schizophrenic process right now. you have in the senate they're bot negotiating this bill and in the senate they're trying to impeach alejandro mayorkas. this is a perfect example of our s

way of dealing with immigration. the republicans are looking like fools. congress is supposed to be an independent body and a check on the executive, and instead you have an ex-president calling the shots on what is happening in the senate. i think that is incredibly foolish. >> the fact that that the border crisis and the huge spike in illegal crossings has happened on biden's watch. are they going to be able to get off the hook with voters, as a political matter, by saying, look, we offered you all these things you've been asking for and you refused? will voters share the blame between democrats and republicans? >> i think at the moment voters are still looking at who is in charge, president biden, and are saying the border seems like it is insecure, and through not just lack of congressional action, but executive action. the repealing of certain trump-era executive orders, et cetera, that this is ultimately biden's problem to solve. can republicans screw this up? absolutely. democrats are typically the ones

that have much more division within their ranks over the issue of what to do about the border. republicans had been pretty united. so republicans having this division, it's possible to screw this up, but in every poll i've ever seen, republicans have much more credibility on this issue than they did ten years ago, and i don't think that just this one debate will be enough to squander it. >> let's look at this as opposed to political. biden and the democrats are making a lot of concessions. for instance, they're agreeing to crack down on the border without asking anything about a pathway to citizenship, which traditionally they have. you know, they may never get this good of a deal again. >> that's correct. but they don't want this deal now because it would look like bipartisanship, it looks like biden is moving forward on it. there's no way trump is going to let that happen. he has control over these people. i love him saying it's absurd. it's not absurd. it's exactly what's happening. >> they would rather have the issue? >> they would rather have the

issue because i think biden is in charge, he can do something. that's what they'll say. maybe that's what he should do, use executive orders, that would be a strong thing. they wouldn't do a deal with me. >> i know it's not everything that republicans want, but there's a lot of stuff here, more personnel on the border, more asylum judges, real policy changes. from a policy point of view, are republicans making a mistake here? >> there are two different considerations here. one is that some of the concessions the biden administration has floated are things that are within the president's power right now that is restraining his discretion over humanitarian parole. those are things where a lot of republicans are saying, wait a second, you've had the option to do this all along and you haven't. i actually do think when it comes to border judges, asylum processing, it is legitimate to say that these are areas where we really do need resources,

where i think republicans in congress are making a mistake. however, it is also the case that the president has the legal authority and presidents have had it for over 30 years, to pursue something like the remain in mexico policy, which was highly effective at stemming the flow of unauthorized crossings. so i think, frankly, it's a 50/50 call on the policy side because a lot of this is just saying that, hey, we're telling you, president biden, we're going to restrain you from making terrible mistakes. this is something you can do unilaterally right now. >> let me pick up on something that lulu said a moment ago, which is that while all of this is going on, house republicans are moving full speed ahead, perhaps as early as next week, in impeaching alejandro mayorkas, the secretary of homeland security. is that justified? >> you know, my sense is that this is not something that is a terribly good use of their focus and time, and i think to some degree is a sign of them throwing up their hands and trying to send a message.

i'm concerned about the impeachment process becoming routine for cabinet officials when you have a policy disagreement. >> it hasn't happened since the 1800s. >> i do think it's a mistake, frankly, because there are so many things the republicans will be holding the biden administration's feet to the fire on, that i think they should be focusing on those. i would love to see them hold the administration accountable on other things other than this, which is really a judgment about president biden's failures on the border, not about malfeasance on the part of mayorkas. >> lulu, you interviewed mayorkas this week. what does he make of all of this? >> he was careful, as you can imagine. but he did call this a political process. he says that he is focused on the fact that he's doing his job, that homeland security is much more than immigration, and he defended his record and he's worried about some of these political maneuvers making this

country less safe. >> net-net, is immigration going to be a big problem for joe biden in november, or is it going to be muddied up? >> unless the situation at the border changes dramatically, regardless of what washington does, if the situation at the border a year from now is like it is right now, that is going to be a massive problem for biden because it will undercut his argument that i am the person that is going to give you stability and order, period. >> do you agree with that, kara? >> i do. i think he's got to do something dramatic. if he does, then the republicans look like they're trying to block it because of trump. >> mayorkas says that it is a problem. >> he also says the border is secure and he refuses to -- i read your interview, he refuses to call it a crisis. >> he doesn't call it a crisis, and i'm just using his words, he feels it gets weaponized by the other side. he acknowledges it's a problem. >> he's roight, it does get

weaponized. up next, we're getting in the weeds about weed. the big push from several big name senators to legalize marijuana. will they come up with a joint resolution?

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this week 12 democratic senators, including majority leader chuck schumer, signed a letter calling on the dea to deschedule marijuana, removing it from the controlled substances list. that means it would no longer be a schedule 1 drug alongside heroin and lsd, considered for dangerous than schedule 2 drugs like cocaine and fentanyl. the move would essentially legalize pot, allowing it to be regulated like alcohol and tobacco. according to the latest gallup poll, 70% of americans now approve of doing this, this is an all-time high.

kara, is it time to legalize marijuana? >> you wanted to say all-time high, didn't you? if you get 420 into this conversation, i'm going to give you props. of course it's way past time. it's worked in lots of states. this is something most americans agree on. it's better if it's more organized and there's taxes on it and it's long past time. kids are laughing at us in that regard. >> our experiment with legalization has been a disaster. it does vary a bit from stiate o state, but no state has been able to effectively regulate this. we've seen the rise of big marijuana, creating more potent products, and we're seeing more and more scientific evidence between the link between heavy cannabis use and schizophrenia, other maladies. we have something like 20% to 30% of users who have become

ha habitualized. an hour of intoxication would become cheaper than a nickel, the way they used to give away matchbooks in restaurants. chuck schumer should know that. he's my neighbor and he should know about the stench of marijuana and the 13 and 14-year-olds walking down my street using cannabis. >> now the penny drops. >> you're acknowledging there are a lot of people for whom marijuana is not good and is going to have serious negative effects, and some people like cancer patients for whom it will be positive. what strikes me is twe have som states that have said we're doing this and the federal government play acts that you can't really do that. i think clearing up the inco herance would allow for some of the things you're addressing.

how potent are these drugs, can we have a standardized way to understand what doses there are. i mean, these are all things that are incredibly important. personally, i find it problematic that i wander through the streets and it is everywhere. my dog got sick the other day by eating something on the street. >> are you sure he wasn't smoking? >> he tested positive for eating marijuana. and so i do think it's a problem. >> take a look at this map. it's interesting. take a look at this map. marijuana is already fully legal in these 24 states, and in 14 more it's legal but just for medical use. it's also a big business. in california alone, $5.4 billion in sales in 2022, including more than $1 billion in state and local taxes. so, lulu, i'm trying to suss out where you are. are you for legalizing pot or

not? do you think it's an economic boon or not? >> of course it is, i think at this point exactly right, there should be some coherence between federal and state law. so i am for legalization for that reason. that said, there's a bigger reason that i think that this is important, and that is actually it is much better to be able to have this be legalized than seeing what used to happen, which is predominantly people of color being put in prison for marijuana. >> they're going to use the stuff. so how do you want it to be used? it's very much like alcohol. there's got to be education, control, and everything else. it's going to be used and it's going to be more potent and more dangerous without it. >> there's a difference between decriminalization and legalization. and a huge problem we have is basically the fact that free markets work and they're creating more potent deadly products in this particular instance. with regard to marijuana, the big picture is that chris sununu

has come up with the idea of state stores. there are ways to do this that are more responsible. alaska for 30 years said grow your own, but let's not commercialize it. >> i want to talk about one other aspect, and you were talking about this, and that's the politics of legalizing pot. as we said, public approval has reached an all-time high of 70%, among young voters, 18-34, support is 79%, and president biden has issued two rounds of pardons for marijuana related offenses. >> as i said when i ran for president, no one should be in jail just for using or possessing marijuana. it's already legal in many states. >> would legalizing pot -- i can't believe i'm asking this, would it help biden with young voters? >> i don't think that it is most young voters' number one issue. it would definitely send a signal that he is not your average octogenarian politician. i think it's good politics

whether you're joe biden or anyone else. even republicans, while they're not necessarily overwhelmingly supportive of full legal sqizat, the view that it should be more -- >> it's a lot more than young voters. the fda is looking at mdma and using it for various medicinal purposes. >> i think if it's done under medical super vision thoughtfully and responsibly, that's one thing. what we'll have here is an absolute free-for-all and it's causing massive problems already. >> so i need a doctor if i'm going to smoke pot? the nfl is hitting a different high at the super bowl. we'll explain. speaking of the big game, taylor swift is doing the most to watch her boyfriend play in person. is it too much? our gang gives a yea or nay next.

it's time to get our group's yea or nay on some big talkers, and this week we have a special super bowl edition. it all starts with a ticket. if you want to go to las vegas and watch the kansas city chiefs and san francisco 49ers in person, it's going to cost you a lot. the cheapest seats are going for $7,000. the average, average about $10 grand, which is 70% higher than last year. and we found top tickets for $78,000. are you yea or nay on paying that much? >> i'm certainly a nay on personally paying that much. when you look at the prices, i want you to think about how much folks are paying to get the licensing deal, to pay for the concession stand, to ensure

you're meeting all of the rules and regulations to have the folks working at the hot dog stand work for you legally. give some forbearance to understand why the prices are so obscene. >> come on. >> lulu, where are you on paying $10 grand to see the game and just, perhaps, america's favorite couple? >> nay, nay. okay, so there's two different things going on here. first of all, i would love someone to invite me and i would happily go. if someone wants to pay $78,000 and bring me along, i'm there. that said -- >> i say, give me the cash. >> but everyone wants the experience. but this is called fun-flation, something we saw after the pandemic where everyone wants to be in these events and it's driven up prices, and i think it's artificial and only allowing the most elite of elite to be able to go to the events. >> someone invited me. >> why do you always make me feel terrible? >> next, if you want a beer, there's new technology for bar

tenders pouring your brew, a tap that works from the bottom up, using a special glass and a magnet to seal in the suds. the makers say it's a faster pour, less waste, and gives bartenders more time to take more drink orders. yea or nay on bombs up beer? >> i'm a soft yea because i like efficiency, and if this means you'll get a good, consistent pour, that's fine. normally beer is my drink of choice, not as of late. but generally, yes. there are certain times of beer this won't work. a good pilsner is supposed to have a lot of bubbles. >> i'm impressed by the en expertise. you know you have stopped drinking altogether, but if they're going to fill your glass, do you want it filled that way? >> yes. i think it's cool. bottoms up, that's the whole idea behind drinking alcohol. i also think it allows

bartenders to be very fast, they get to do this and help other people get other types of drinks. so, yeah, i think it's cool. >> all right. you've got your ticket. you have your beer. now let's talk about getting to las vegas for the game. chances are, you'll have an easier time than taylor swift. sources say she'll be there to support her boyfriend, who, in case you haven't heard, the travis kelce of the kansas city chiefs, and she's going to rack up a ton of miles. swift has a concert in tokyo the night of february 10th. she'll have to jump on a 12-hour flight to make it to vegas for the game on the 11th. after that, she's looking at a 17-hour flight back across the pacific for a concert in australia. so, kara, yea or nay to crisscrossing the globe for your sweetheart? >> i like it. i like the whole thing. ain't love grand, especially when you have a private plane? the networks love it, everyone loves it. i think she should do an ad for

some super bowl ad, which would be funny. maybe bud light. >> did she endorse biden? i thought that's the reason she's going. >> how about a proposal on the field? >> she's not doing that. that's not taylor swift. >> it would be pretty cool. >> are there conspiracy theories about why she's flying there? this is the whole point, i'm a hard yea on this because i believe that you should be with the person that you love, but, also, because there are so many conspiracy theories around this that it's kind of -- it will make it exciting. >> travis won't be at the grammys this sunday where taylor is up for six awards. in his defense, it's the team's travel day and he says he's got to get ready for, as he puts it, the big old super bowl. up next, apple's mixed reality headset is out and the reviews are in. is it worth the hype? find out after this.

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i really like it. i really enjoy it. i demoed it twice. i'm going to have it for a couple of weeks. and then i probably will buy it. i find it really exciting in terms of entertainment. i really like the way they've done it. it's, of course, the first generation and there are issues around mixed reality headsets. but i'm enjoying it and the pictures are pretty. reihan looks beautiful. >> that really is a triumph of technology. >> i have an advantage because we've tried it. i find the technology astonishing, especially what they call spatial video, where you're inside your home movies, or way too close to a dinosaur. i thought the headset got uncomfortable, not something you would want to wear every day. kristen, is the vision pro over-hyped? >> i'm only skeptical insofar as i remember trying on the oculus, and in the demo there's a dinosaur that gets close to you.

i thought this is scary, and we got one as a gift a christmas or two ago and we basically pull it out when friends bring their kids over. >> after you use it for six months, it ends up in the closet. >> my husband is into the product releases, it's like a holiday at our house, and he's like how can we fit this into our budget. i want to know how is this different than the oculus? >> well, it was designed by facebook and that would be the difference. apple is a wonderful design company. and i do think it's the first generation of where this is going. this is going to be glasses eventually. >> i don't want to live like this. i'm addicted to my phone already. do i want to have a headset? it feels so isolating. i feel weird talking to you with

that on. >> this is a great technology, but it could alienate you. >> i feel weird talking to you without it on. >> you remember the big gordon gecko phones when it first started. this is going to change significantly. >> i think it's going to get so great that getting to know people, being close to them, that is something -- >> we're already seeing people on the street talking to people and looking like this and now we're going to be seeing people doing this? >> you're all churning butter. the panel is back with their predictions for what will be in the news before it is the news. that's right after the break. put it back on. >> all right. >> i have to say the technology is amazing. >> i'm desperate to try it. to duckduckgo on all your devie

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it's time for our panel's special takes on what's happening, predictions of what we should be looking out for. so hit me with your best shot. >> if you use tiktok, be prepared to create videos without access to some of the music you may have been accustomed to before. universal music group this past week, their agreement with tiktok expired, and the ability of people to use otherwise copyrighted music -- this is an example of what a video would have looked like with somebody saying, oh, i've got a song playing over my content. now it comes up and it says the sound has been removed due to copyright restrictions.

this is a big draw for platforms like tiktok, that you can take popular songs and make content around hthem. without the popular music, this is a big problem. >> as our tech expert, and i'm not going to talk about vision pro, i know your mind is on that big hearing the senate held this week with the tech execs. your thoughts? >> so mark zuckerberg made that famous apology and he kind of had to because the families were there and visually it was a disaster with the pictures of kids who had been hurt by social media, some of them died or were hurt in differently ways. he made an apology and he's done this many times before, he always says -- he never says we're so sorry, he says i'm sorry for what you're going through. >> not what we did. >> that's correct, he never does that. it's been an ongoing series. what's really the problem is the performative nature of our politicians, who would do something, and have neglected over and over again to pass any laws. i think the focus should be more

on them than anything else. lindsey graham can make all the speeches about blood on their hands, but the blood is also on their hands. >> i'm concerned the democratic national convention this summer in chicago in 2024 is going to be a replay of the democratic national convention of 1968 when you had serious riots, civil violence breakouts because of a deep cleavage within the democratic party. we've talked about the opposite to president biden from his left flank on the war in israel and i think it's going to get worse. the mayor of chicago himself, someone who has been an agitator, and i worry that he might actually take the side of the rioters rather than the folks who would restore civil order. >> lulu, you're focused on what i think may be the most telling story of the week. >> i thought so, too. elmo wrote a tweet -- >> muppet, that elmo. >> basically wrote a tweet on x

saying, how is everyone doing? elmo wants to know. and there have been 206 million views of this tweet, and what it unleashed was this absolutely just heartbreaking outpouring of grief and pain, to the point where it forced elmo to then have to write another tweet to say, hey, there's some mental health resources out there for everybody. and i think it just shows, like, our isolation, our pain, and how we look to these characters for solace. just, to me, it was a heartbreaking sort of opening into our psyche. >> it was amazing how people responded to it. gang, thank you all for being here. thank you for spending part of your day with us. we'll see you right back here next week. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone.