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while his girlfriend taylor won grammys in los angeles. >> taylor is scheduled to play in tokyo on february 10th, leaving her enough time to travel from there to vegas to see her boyfriend play. in fact, the japanese embassy just wanting to make sure you know there's plenty of time. put out an official statement the message to be, quote, fearless that she will make it in time. that is pretty amazing. >> when you're japanese embassy famous, she's famous. >> oh, taylor. >> "cnn this morning" continues now. ♪ good morning, everyone. it's top of the hour. i'm phil mattingly with poppy harlow in new york. right now southern california is being battered by a strong atmospheric river. some areas could see several months worth of rain fall over the next few days. cnn crews are setting up in the area. we'll take you there live. senate leaders revealed bipartisan border bill that could dramatically change immigration law for the first time in decades. why is the house speaker saying the bill is, quote, dead on arrival. said it before he read it.
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raerp calling the u.s. latest strikes on iraq and syria a, quote, strategic mistake. how iran and the militia groups they back are responding to america's escalation this weekend. "cnn this morning" starts right now. ♪ happening right now, an extremely dangerous situation unfolding in southern california with record-breaking rain, major flash flooding and mud slides. this is new video of a dramatic rescue in san bernardino. several people were trapped in this car after raging flood waters swept it away and pinned it against a tree. a rescue team on the boat was able to save them. as we speak, more than 11 million people across california under high risk of serious life-threatening flooding. >> this is the scene in the hollywood hills where the national weather service is warning of potential landslides this morning. you can see piles of mud, rocks and debris in the streets. forecasters have been warning this will be one of the most dramatic weather days in recent
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memory for los angeles. torrential downpours have already dumped more than a month's worth of rain on that city. meteorologist chad myers joins us live again this in ventura county. what are you seeing on the ground and tell us what's to come today. >> reporter: we are still getting rain today. and the problem here now is that you talked about, hollywood hills, pacific palisades. this is a steep area. and these canyons that run up to these areas are essentially blocked in many areas, all the way from malibu on up toward -- trying to get up to the 101. you can't get it. you can't go up those mountains anymore because the roads were blocked. whether it's rushing water or trees down or the authorities saying, please don't get in trouble and don't make us rescue you. there's even a high water rescue truck not that far behind me here waiting to go. if they need to go, they're sleeping in their trucks just waiting to get out there if they hear of something that's happening. this is still going to rain today. we're still going to have especially up in our 29 palms, to the east really and northeast
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of l.a., another 4 to 7 inches of rain on top of those hills. all that water has to come down here at some point in time. the rivers are rising and that is the problem. and the officials are concerned and they're issuing warnings. >> southern california, bracing for what's to be a historic storm. >> let me be clear, this storm is a serious weather event. >> reporter: historic long-lasting atmospheric river is moving across southern california bringing a heavy, sustained rainstorm for the second time in a week. california governor newsom declared a state of emergency for several counties. some areas in the mountains and the foothills seeing up to 14 inches of rain. this morning, major cities from sacramento to san diego are under flood watches. compromising roadways with rushing water and downed trees. >> i recognize that fatigue may be settling in. but i can assure you that this decision to issue this warning
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is not taken lightly. it is becoming clear that these kinds of rain events might become our new normal. >> reporter: residents of some affected areas like ventura county are contending with potentially life threatening flooding and mud slides with 3 to 7 inches of rain already falling there. >> it's almost washed the bridge out level. >> reporter: many rivers can be seen with high, rushing water, creating concern for additional flooding in those areas. more than 40 million people across california are under high wind alerts, with one reported gust at pablo point clocking in at over 100 miles per hour. many counties are warning residents in low-lying areas to evacuate. in sun valley, california, police are going door to door, warning residents to leave. firefighters in san jose rescued six residents and a dozen dogs from rising flood waters. san louis i bisbow, they are warning drivers to stay off the roads. this man had to be rescued after getting stuck in the rushing flood waters. >> we have heavy winds, heavier winds than we experienced here
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in a long time with a mix of giant south swells. >> reporter: downed tree in the area broke ten power poles, leaving over 6,500 customers without power. >> i just heard a loud boom. and i kind of screamed. and she yelled, mom, the power lines are out. >> reporter: and in santa barbara, heavy rains and downed trees left the roads treacherous. >> only people that know that, you know, they really shouldn't be driving out here in the rain like this. if they do, walking around, be aware of the trees and how they can fall down. >> reporter: poppy, the real risk right now is that it is still dark and people are beginning to move around. we're starting to see some traffic on the 101, just in front of me here. and we're going to be driving into these waters, these flood waters. they're trying to put up these barriers as fast as they can, but it's like whack a mole. no, that road is closed. that road is closed. now the water is rising again. all the water from on top of the mountains right up there has to end up in the ocean. and that's going to take a couple days. water is going to rise in places even where the rain has stopped.
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poppy? >> chad myers, thank you for the reporting. let's go now to allison chinchar at the cnn weather center. allison, we just saw what chad is experiencing on the ground and what's to come. can you talk about the cause of all of this? >> yeah. the cause is an atmospheric river funneling the moisture into california. it has been for the last 48 hours and will continue for the next 24. it's not just southern california. even areas of northern and central california are still getting some pretty heavy bands of rain right now. but the heaviest rain is still focussed over portions of southern california. specifically across areas of los angeles. that's where we have a lot of these active flash flood warnings. what that indicates is that it's active on going flooding. so you're having landslides, you're having flooded roadways. a lot of these areas from los angeles, stretching back west towards malibu, scenes like this. this is from yesterday. but this may still end up happening today as more rain is expected to come in across many of these areas. you look at some of the rain fall totals so far, you're looking at several locations
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that already picked up half a foot of rain. now you're going to be adding an additional 1 to 3 inches on top of what they've already had. that's just going to exacerbate any of the flooding concerns going on across many of these areas. it's also why you have such a widespread risk for flooding. not just for l.a., but pretty much for a vast majority of the state. however, los angeles becomes the target point for that high risk. what we refer to as a level 4 out of 4. it's the highest threat that you can get. again, they don't happen very often. you often only get them on say 4% of days. power outages still over half a million right now. that's because of this. look at this. you had several wind reports over 100 miles per hour. but even some of the other areas that had wind gusts of 80, 90 miles per hour that's still going to lead to trees coming down and the subsequent power outages that go with it. shighind warnings still for today with those wind gusts up around 60 to 80 miles per hour. >> wow. allison, thank you. phil? over to washington. a bipartisan group of senators
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have officially unveiled their long-awaited bipartisan border security bill, which majority leader chuck schumer is calling a, quote, monumental step. that at least based on several decades of failed negotiations on immigration, is hyperbole when it comes to what's actually inside the bill. now, on its face, the measure would dramatically change immigration law for the first time in decades. here is the reality, even if the senate can pass the bill, it's facing stiff, if not unyielding opposition from house republicans. many labeled it dead on arrival some before they knew what was in it. policy matters. that might be stunning to some people. let's unpack what's actually in the deal. so there are several key changes to the asylum process. this was a critical component of the talks making it more selective and quicker. includes provisions to shut down the border when crossings reach a certain threshold and preserves but clamps down on the humanitarian parole of migrants into the country. let's go deeper into what these changes would actually mean. now, a critical element of the
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agreement, the bill grants the federal government a sweeping new authority to effectively shut down the border when the daily average of migrant crossings hits 4,000 a day. if that average reaches 5,000 a day, the department of homeland security would be required to shut down the border meet immediately. dhs would be required to shut it down if more than 8,500 migrants crossed in a single day. to put that into perspective, daily averages reached nearly 10,000 migrants last month. current surge of migrants is able to shut down the border. president biden hasn't been shy about willingness to use that authority to get the situation under control. >> also give me, as president, the emergency authority to shut down the border until we can get it back under control. if that bill were a law today, i would shut down the border right now and fix it quickly. >> that is what's on the table. now, migrants entering the country will also face tougher scrutiny in proving they will eligible for asylum. those that don't qualify, they'll be deported promptly.
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the proposal would give the u.s. citizenship and immigration services new power to assess asylum claims quickly. the cases could take up to 10 years and the current court backlog would be assessed within six months. also allow migrants who pass their asylum interviews to work in the u.s. legally. there are several other key provisions in the bill subject to months of intensive debates in those negotiations. one of those, the presidential use of parole. republicans sought to ban the tool the white house used to create legal pathways for more than a million migrant. the deal includes limited changes to the president's authority. it was a very, very tough negotiation on that front. it would provide funding for hiring thousands of new border patrol agents and asylum officers to process cases, key democratic priority, to ease that system that is by all accounts completely overwhelmed and billions of dollars toward improved border security, detention beds, increased screenings to cut down on drug trafficking. the deal paves to 50,000 new
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visas a year over the next five years and grant work permissions and deportation protections for some of the families of migrants. now, for the concessions that they gave on border security, democrats secured several key national security objectives in this agreement. this was at the crux of it throughout tens of billions of dollars and security aid that addresses threats all around the world. it includes those desperately needed emergency funds for ukraine. also funds for israel, humanitarian assistance, for gaza and aid for taiwan. but, it is abundantly clear the hard work is far from over if there's an outcome at all. speaker johnson weighing in yesterday and reiterating the bill is, quote, dead on arrival. steve scalise saying the bill won't get a vote in the house. the bill does not go far enough in restricting immigration levels or funding the border wall and then of course the guy who is running for president, donald trump, the former president, has made it very clear he does not want congress to take up immigration bills before the election. so, question right now is this, will this make it to the house
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at all? heck, make it out of the u.s. senate? poppy? >> tick through those. the senate. does it make it out of the senate? >> it's tough. i would put odds on it, but they don't have 60. >> you would put odds on it? you wouldn't put odds on it. >> in my head, not on television. but they've got -- how do you find the sweet spot, middle ground, right? how do you get 30 republicans, 30 democrats, how do you get 40 democrats a lot of issues in here, the democrats have issues with and can you get 25 to 30 republicans? i don't have a great answer for it. i don't think they do at this point either. >> what speaker johnson wanted and kept saying, we passed hr 2 in the house. >> yep. >> how similar, phil, is this to what they passed in the house? what he and the house republicans wanted? >> house republicans proudly note that hr 2 is the title of the bill is draconian. it goes much further. but it is interesting. there's complaints about the border wall. >> some elements are addressed here. >> some elements of the border
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wall. the most important point, this doesn't go nearly as far as hr 2 does. however, the length to which it does go on issues that democrats have never been willing to negotiate for without any of the things that they typically have on the table as must-haves, whether it's related to pathway to citizenship or dreamers. we said it multiple times i'm astounded they are at this point on the policy and equally astounding that it apparently has no affect on house republicans at all. >> i'm astounded things surprise you on capitol hill. >> that's a fair point. >> so helpful this morning. also coming up right here on "cnn this morning," georgia governor brian kemp joins us about all of this and more. overnight, u.s. central command confirming more strikes on houthi and anti-ship cruise missiles yesterday one day after joint u.s. and uk strikes against targets in yemen. boeing 737 max 9 planes face new issues exactly a month to the day since part of a max 9 blew out during that alaska airlines flight.
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we'll have the details next.
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♪ new video overnight of the u.s. military striking houthi cruise missiles after they struck 36 different houthi targets across yemen. biden administration vowing more action. >> you said it's just the beginning. i just want to clarify, that means that there will be more strikes coming in the next few days? >> what it means is that we will take further action. i'm not going to obviously describe the character of that action because i don't want to telegraph our punches. but there will be further action. >> according to u.s. defense officials the strikes damaged 84 out of 85 targets with no indications of iranian casualties. these are for the deadly drone attack that killed three american service members over the weekend. joining us now, kirk. we appreciate your time. to start with, it was interesting when president biden was asked, is this working?
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are these strikes working. this is what he said. >> are the air strikes working? >> yes. >> he could be saying yes to lots of different formulations of that. but based on what you saw in terms of the initial response that white house officials have said is going to continue, do you think it's working? >> well, phil at this point i don't think the strikes can really be assessed as whether they're working or not. we're still in the process of doing battle damage assessment on the areas that we have struck on the facilities we are, in fact, targeting and going after. i think this will take several days if not weeks to determine number one, is it effective against the facilities that we're trying to eliminate with the proxy groups so they no longer can strike either americans or other national security interests in the area. and second, we need to be taking a look. is this deterring iran from, in
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fact, arming and allowing these groups to continue to operate with immunity throughout the region. that's going to be the real bottom line. >> what's going to tell you that it is deterring iran? >> i think, poppy, at the end what you're going to see is deterring iran is will they continue to fund these groups? will these groups continue to target u.s. and allied national security interests in the region. if that stops, then you know that you have achieved deterrence again. if it has not stopped, then we need to take a look at more robust actions against iran itself. that doesn't necessarily mean military strikes, but there are a number of options on the table that the biden administration still has available to them to exercise. >> so one of the criticisms from particularly republicans of the biden administration is you should have done this sooner. that's what we heard nikki haley say yesterday on cnn. would doing what the biden administration did on friday and over the weekend sooner have made more of a difference than
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it will make now? >> i think the biden administration could have acted sooner. i don't know what all the details are in play that caused this hesitancy where over 100 attacks on americans resulted in very few responses by us. but at sh point, let's be forward looking and not back ward complaining. in reality, the united states at this point needs to have a very robust set of options on the table to include let's go back to sanctions for the pre-nuke iran nuclear agreement and put those in place. those ships are legitimate military targets and even though iran is threatening, they very easily could recall them and to date they have not. >> much more to come obviously as officials have been very clear. thank you. we're continuing to cover the record-breaking rain in
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southern california. for more on what's happening in los angeles, let's bring in eric scott, public information officer for the l.a. city fire department. good morning. obviously it's very early there, 4:20 in the morning your time. so many california residents will wake up to this. and the fact that we have seen a month's worth of rain already dumped on los angeles county in a day, what are the risks for people as they get up and get out of the house this morning coupled with what is to come? >> good points. first off, try to stay home if you can. you know, we're really encouraging people to limit non-essential travel. that was part of our success for battling hurricane hilary in the recent past because we are getting some potentially historic amount of rain. we're going to talk to national weather service and see how close we're getting. but it's causing problems. and we anticipated coming at 6:00 p.m. last night and it sure did. we ended up having people start driving their vehicles in an area called tarzana.
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two to three feet of water, the vehicles will stall out. they become stranded. thankfully they stayed with their vehicles. that's a good reminder for any of your viewers if that ever happens to you. don't try to get into the water. you don't know what's underneath. we launched our swift water rescue teams. we were successful. nobody was injured. and then we had multiple debris flows or mud starting to slough off of those hillsides. we just had a storm in the recent past last couple days. we're dealing with saturated soils. now that we're getting an intense amount of rain over a short duration is creating some of the problems. >> in terms of your resources and your capabilities, given what we're seeing right now, have you faced any restrictions, any problems? how is this going to work on your end over the course of the coming hours? >> reporter: no restrictions. no problem. we definitely have been leaning forward. we augmented our resources. put additional boots on the ground in key areas. so, we ramped up three swift water rescue teams. these are highly skilled folks with inflatable boats, jet skis
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that can handle the water rescues. we launched up a multiple urban search and rescue teams who are the confined space specialist that can get into places and get people out. we have additional helicopter pilots, additional 911 dispatchers due to the influx of 911 calls we have. so, fortunately we took this very seriously. we would rather be overprepared than under. and we want people to join our team. the way you can join our team is we're going to be working hard here for you. you just stay at home, if you can, limit any unessential travel. >> right. because the predicaments that people get into and the danger there puts your team in danger as well. we really appreciate your time. thank you. good luck today. more than a dozen republican governors standing by texas governor greg abbott in eagle pass, showing support for his border battle with the biden administration. georgia governor brian kemp was there with abbott in texas. he's going to join us next.
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ordering it to be taken down. >> we will expand our efforts. our declaration is our declaration of our rights article 1, section 10, clause 3 that guarantees the right of every state that's either invaded or in imminent danger, which we are in imminent danger, to be able to exercise self defense. >> now governor abbott was speaking from shelby park in eagle pass. texas state officials last month blocked border patrol access to that park. republican governors yesterday cheered abbott's showdown with the administration. >> every state in our country now is a border state. when you think about the amount of fentanyl, the human trafficking that's coming, they're coming to every state in the country. >> joining us now is republican governor brian kemp of georgia. you just heard him there. governor, we appreciate your time this morning. based on what you saw and the conversations you had, what's the end game here?
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>> well, the end game is hopefully to get president biden to act. you know, republican governors have been trying to get him to do that for well over a year, phil. you know, i've been to the border five different times. i've been down there when you had the federal government and state government working to the secure the border. i've been down there unfortunately in times like yesterday where you have a state having to act on its own because this president will not act. >> i want to get further into that. in terms of what's happening in eagle pass, what governor abbott is pursuing right now, there are legal scholars who raised concerns about what it means constitutionally, what it means for states -- say a democratic state, as steve cnn analyst said, democratic state said we're in a war with pollution and decided to try to usurp the federal government. are you concerned about that precedent, what this means going forward? >> well, listen, i'll let governor abbott and his lawyers
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speak to the law. he makes very powerful points yesterday during our press conference. you know, we obviously had a briefing on the legal side of texas' argument. but also a briefing from their law enforcement officials and their general of the national guard about what their doing. what i saw on the ground is a lot different than the pictures you have seen a week, two weeks ago when you had literally thousands of people coming across illegally into our country where yesterday, i mean, basically nothing is happening down there other than people going back and forth legally on the bridge ahead of where we were standing next to the river bank. so obviously what governor abbott is doing is working for them. the problem is he is one state. we need this president to act and protect the whole southern border across multiple states in our country. >> isn't, though, 12 governors showing up as a show of support to see what's happening on the ground, isn't that at least
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implicitly supporting where governor abbott is on the law itself, which you said you're going to leave to him? >> well, there's no doubt that we are standing with greg abbott. i was thinking to myself yesterday, what would i do if i was governor of texas? what would any of the other 24, 25 republican governors that signed the letter supporting him do? what would democratic governors do if this was happening in their state? that's why the american people are so upset. this is not a partisan issue. you have got blue state mayors or blue city mayors lining up, complaining about this influx of illegal people coming into our country, along with the republican governors and you have a president and administration that either doesn't get it or just simply does not want to act. and this is something i mentioned in my -- i mentioned in the q&a yesterday. >> yeah. >> this is not just election year tactic. we have been pushing for this for well over a year. >> no.
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there's no argument on that. i think everything you're laying out, this is a very different moment than it was both politically and policy and from an immigration perspective than it has been in many years. i think everybody can agree on that. but to that point, that's exactly why there is a bipartisan bill that's now on the table. the white house is behind it and supporting it. democrats have moved to a place on policy that i have never seen them be before in covering this issue for more than a decade. is that something you would like to see signed into law? >> well, i think that shows you how political and concerned the biden white house is because they know the vast majority of american people are severely upset what's happening at the southern border. i would remind you that the biden administration had complete control of the congress from 2020 to 2022 and did absolutely nothing because they did not care about this issue. so i don't know what's going to happen on the bill. i was on an airplane trying to get back to the great state of georgia last night. so i haven't seen all the
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specifics. i know there's push back. i don't know if something gets done or it doesn't. but that doesn't really matter. the president can act regardless of the legislation with policies that will stem this flow of illegal immigration into our country. that's all we're calling on him to do. we stand ready to work with him on this issue. >> yeah. can i -- switching over to politics now because all republicans generally want to know where your head is at on various political issues. there's been a significant push, not just from the trump campaign but for nikkei hailey to get out of the race. to make donald trump is nominee. do you think nikki haley should get out of the race? >> well, look, if i was in the trump campaign's position, i would be doing the same thing. if i was nikki haley, i would probably be doing the same thing she's doing. there's a process that wif as a republican. i don't think we need to be dictating who our nominee is going to be. that's got to be done through a process. that will help us at the end of
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the day unite and beat joe biden. and so, you know, we'll see what happens. long way to go still to south carolina. and doesn't look like anybody is budging right now. >> yeah. no. it's very true. you have answered this question several times. if donald trump is the nominee and against joe biden you would vote for the republican nominee. if donald trump is convicted either in your state where there's a lot going on with the case or any of the federal cases, would that change your mind at all? >> well, we'll see what happens with all the court cases that are going on. i think polling shows that if he is, indeed, convicted, there could potentially be real problems with his ability to win. as you know, everyone in this country is innocent until proven guilty. >> would you be among those that would be part of that problem for him? >> well, i think -- i would definitely have concerns about voting for someone that has been convicted. now, let me be clear too, i think a lot of these things have
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been politically motivated. we have to let the process play out. i wouldn't want to speculate, you know, on one potential case over another. >> sure. governor brian kemp, we appreciate your time. as always, thank you. >> have a great day. secretary of state antony blinken is now back the middle east for the fifth time since the war between israel and hamas began. the impact his visit could have as u.s. involvement in the region continues to increase. ♪
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♪ welcome back. well, this morning u.s. secretary of state antony blinken is the middle east once again. this is his fifth trip to the
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region since october 7th. blinken will once again try to salvage a deal for the release of dozens of remaining israeli hostages still held by hamas terrorists in gaza and try to bring this war to an end. >> but a deal so far has been elusive and the biden administration yesterday made a point to keep expectations somewhat low. >> i can't say it's imminent, but ultimately these kinds of negotiations unfold somewhat slowly until they unfold very quickly. and so, it's difficult to put a precise timetable on when something might come together or frankly if something might come together. >> joining us now to discuss, lieu lieu lieu lieu lieu lieutenant jonathan. the administration made a point of regularly sending officials over to consult. when it comes to the hostage deal, do you feel like this is a
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moment where that will help move things forward or is that some different intent here? >> well, i think there's the hostage situation, which is a very sore point that israel, of course, a lot of international involvement here. the u.s. leading efforts. and then there's egypt, qatar, a lot of other players involved here. but then there's hamas making commands that are nonstarters to begin with. and the reports that i have are that hamas are making demands that will make it extremely difficult for israel to start negotiating about. that's why i'm concerned about the fate of the 136 israeli hostages that have been held now for more than 120 days in hamas captivity. and i think it's a priority for israel to get them out. but also limitations to how much israel will be willing to give to hamas in order to get them out. and i think that's it's very important to have american involvement. secretary blinken will be coming
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to prevent an escalation into a regional war. we have hezbollah knocking at our doorsteps and iranian pressure from various fronts. and i think hostage deal is one part of it, but also preventing regional escalation is probably the most important point. >> would you not call this a regional conflict given how many terror groups, how many countries are involved? >> yes, definitely correct. the intensity of the conflict still unfortunately has a lot of lethal potential. hezbollah and israel i think were at a 10 or 20 out of 100. they have lots more fire power, many more rockets with longer range that they can deploy and fire into israel and threaten israeli civilians. and of course israel has far more capabilities to continue to defend itself. so far both sides are deciding strategically not to escalate the situation. but we are nearing a situation where israel may be forced to do more because israel has more than 100 thousand civilians out of their home from northern israel. that's an unprecedented situation. >> i was struck when you talked about the the conflict that's
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been on going inside gaza. it has been significant. it has been high intensity and trickled back a little bit. we heard from a former u.s. central commander, former commander of the u.s. central command, general frank mckenzie, he said this -- >> how do you judge the level of success of israel's campaign? >> it's very limited so far. i think they set themselves a goal of removing the political echelon and the military leadership echelon of hamas when they went in. they have not been successful to date at doing either. >> you were intimately involved in the beginning stages of this. i'm interested in your view of that assessment. >> not entirely sure on which updated intel that assessment is base on. what i can see is a hamas fighting force that has been decimated about two thirds of their fighting capabilities are no longer. two thirds of their fighting
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combatants, many of their rockets, substantial parts of the tunnel network and we're not talking about the easy challenge here. yes, israel set out to kill the terrorists and kill the political leaders. that has not yet been achieved. but in terms of military achievements on the ground and below the ground, very significant achievements and i think there are other americans who assess it differently. >> jonathan, let me ask you about "the wall street journal" reporting that u.s. intelligence estimates just 20 to 30% of hamas terrorists have been killed. and the goal has been destroy hamas. when you look at a number like that, that doesn't appear to be close to destroying hamas four months in. >> yeah. that was a few weeks old. and it was from an unconfirmed, unofficial, unnamed source at the pentagon. usually when i see, you know, something unofficial and someone doesn't have a name behind it, i'm cautious. >> what do you think the numbers are? >> official idf estimates of more than 65% of hamas combat
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capabilities either killed or severely injured. those are substantial figures that will make it difficult for hamas first and foremost to continue fighting and threatening israeli civilians and to rebuild their capabilities. and the idf is hard on hamas' tails. we're dismantling in khan younis and the main fighting in southern gaza and the next stage will be raffah. dismantles the tunnels that go and bring all the weapons from egypt into gaza, then that will be a very severe blow to hamas' ability to continue to threaten israeli civilians. >> thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. good morning. later this week the supreme court case hears the case that could determine donald trump's ballot eligibility in 2024. saying the quiet part outloud about money, literally, how loud budgeting is changing the way gen z approaches their finances. >> it's the opposite of quiet luxury. if your friend texts you, i want
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to hang out. you say i don't want to spend gas money oncoming to you to hear you talk about your exfor three hours.
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. you may have heard of quiet luxury, now the opposite is trending, it's called loud budgeting. cnn's vanessa yurkevich explains. in an online world where opulence is king, this was a joke. >> loud budgeting is a new concept i'm introducing for 2024. it's the opposite of quiet
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luxury. if your friend texts you, i want to hang you, you say i don't want to spend gas money oncoming to you to talk about your ex for three hours. >> comedian lucas battle inadvertently started a new financial trend. >> what is loud budgeting? >> loud budgeting is kind of new terminology for people to use when they don't want to spend money. i think it's a term people can use that doesn't make talking about money awkward. >> the joke took off with his more than 600,000 tiktok followers, financial influencers, and even himself. >> were you surprised by how many people have related to it? >> yes, only because, and i would love to say i'm a genius brilliant economist, but this is like a concept that's been around and i really do think that the loud part in front of it is what people are kind of drawn to. >> gen z and millennials feel the burden of inflation, expensive housing and student loan payments. budgeting has been around since
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the beginning of time, but in just the four weeks since battle came up with loud budgeting, more and more people are feeling they now have permission to talk about it. >> what do you think about that, being transparent about the fact that you're on a budget? >> i think more so it should be normalized about budgeting and saving. >> why do you think so many people are resonating with it? >> because for so long we have been shamed into silence. loud budgeting is amazing because instead of having to hide and like be ashamed about fact that you have debt or need a budget or want to save for certain things in your life, you can proudly say them and share them with your friends. >> gen z and millennials, social media's most active users were either entering the job market or working when the pandemic hit. recent economic uncertainty has made them the hungriest for
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information. >> with the social mediafication with society, keeping up the jones is no longer the jones. we're keeping up with the car d -- kardashians. we're getting visualizations of wealth that most people won't see in their looifgs. if i'm in an environment where i feel like it's going to be challenging to succeed, i want to arm myself with as much information as i can to give myself that leg up. >> and that makes it cool to talk about money, not just on social media. >> through all of this attention, which i love, i have decided that i want to become an economist, which means that i'm going to have to push janet yellen. >> not a bad career to aspire to, even if it just is a joke. but loud budgeting is actually part of a bigger trend on tiktok, something called fin talk, financial tiktok, where millions, billions, actually,
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4.7 billion people have engaged with a hash tag called fin talk, it's where people go for advice and give advice on finances. however, you have everyone from your stay-at-home who is excellent at budgeting to someone who's more certified in finances. vivian, who we spoke to there is a fin influencer, she says if you're getting any kind of information, financial information from smeocial media double check it. check with a news source to make sure it's the best financial piece for you. >> i love that piece, it was so interesting. thank you for bringing it to us. jury deliberations are set to begin in the manslaughter trial of jennifer crumbley, we're live on the ground in michigan, next. money this morning brought to you by e trade from morgan stanley, trade commission free today with no account minimums.
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just about an hour from now, jury deliberations will begin in the manslaughter trial of jennifer crumbley whose son shot and killed four students at oxford high school in 2021. >> prosecutors say she was grossly negative about giving her teenage son a gun. gene, what happens today on this first day of jury deliberations? >> reporter: well, let me take you through it. the jury should arrive about 9:00 this morning, and the first thing is that they will hear the
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jury instructions from the judge, which is the law that they must follow. and then there's 17 of them all together right now because there's five alternates, and nobody knows who the alternates are, even the jury doesn't. so they're going to just sporadically pick five names. those people will be the alternates. they will stay at the courthouse. they will be secluded in another area, and then the 12 jurors will begin to deliberate. of course just as you said, this is a homicide case, this is a charge of involuntary manslaughter that jennifer crumbley was grossly negligent in ignore ago known risk that her son could carry out a mass shooting and it was foreseeable. she knew it was a possibility he could carry out that mass shooting. i want you to listen to a little bit of the closing arguments, powerful on both sides. take a listen. >> i am asking that you find jennifer crumbley not guilty, that james was the parent responsible for all of the
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storage of the guns. jennifer crumbley barely knew a thing about them. >> she was worried and she was concerned and she was panicked, until after, and then it's a different story. why? because she knew she had done something wrong. >> reporter: so the prosecution had 21 witnesses. they had over 400 exhibits. the defense had one witness, jennifer crumbley, but of course all eyes will be focused on was she telling the truth, was she not telling the truth. jurors can deliberate normally until 5:00 p.m., but at this courthouse, they can deliberate through the evening tonight if they want to. >> all right. keep us posted, jean casarez, thank you. "cnn this morning" continues right now. i'm a little bit more scared this time. you know, the warnings, you know, we had a order to evacuate. there's just so much water accumulating here in

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