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plus, get the new samsung galaxy s24 on us. i'm daniel lurie and i've spent my career fighting poverty, helping people right here in san francisco. i'm also a father raising two kids in the city. deeply concerned that city hall is allowing crime and lawlessness to spread. now we can do something about it by voting yes on prop e. a common sense solution that ensures we use community safety cameras to catch repeat offenders and hold them accountable. vote yes on e. breaking news, nikki haley is applying for secret service protection. it comes as haley had a heightened security presence around her for the past week. her campaign says the request is because of threats he's
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receiving from taking on trump. thanks for watching. it's time for anderson. tonight on 360, the state of british royal family. what we're learning about king charles' health after what started as a common medical proceedier ends in a cancer diagnosis. a day after learning what is in the tough new bipartisan border security legislation. senators signal the deal may be dead. plus, southern california reeling from more than a month's worth of rain in barely a day. just a week ago, king charles left the hospital after treatment for benign enlarged prostate and was said to be doing well. today we learned he's been diagnosed with cancer and has already started treatment for it. this has come to a shock to the public. his son, prince harry, is returning to the united kingdom to be with his father.
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cnn's richard quest is with us tonight. also with us, dr. sanjay gupta. so, richard, the official statement from buckingham palace says during the king's procedure, a separate issue of concern was noted. subsequent diagnostic tests identified a form of cancer. what more can you tell us about this announcement because obviously they're not seeing a kind of cancer? >> no, that's the great unknown here. nor do we know whether there was a suspected something before he had his procedure for enlarged prostate. we don't know how much they feared they were going to find or whether, as the statement says, they discovered it on the way. what they have told us is that he will not be doing any public-facing duties. so no more tours. no more openings, no more doing anything where he would have to be out and about. but he is going to continue with his affairs of state, holding things like council meetings and
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deals with the famous red boxes, the boxes where government boxes go to the monarch wherever he is in the world. i guess what they're preparing for here is the i don't know. they're not telling us what sort of cancer. they're saying he's having outpatient treatment but not telling us what regime it is or how debilitating or anything about it. and nor have they yet put on the table, anderson, this idea of council as of state being necessary or anything even more extreme. i guess this it preparing the public for what has happened and sort of suggesting what might happen next. we're very short on detail. >> explain what the counselors of state is. >> yeah. the counselors of state, these are people who are under, by law, they can step in and take the place or do the duties of the monarch. and it is defined by law who it
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is. so it is, for example, it is obviously some of the siblings. it is obviously the children, harry and william are both in there. beatrice, andrew's daughter is there. what they did recently was charles very recently extended the list of numbers of people who could be counselors to his sister, the princess royal, and his youngest brother, prince edward. what would happen is that if he became unable, for whatever reason, to discharge his duties or it is a bit like the constitutional part that temporarily hands over a bit of power to the vice president. >> right. >> the counselors can act in his name, but not, anderson, on the big stuff. not on appointing prime ministers. so not on that. if things got so he was incapacitated, which is a long way down the road, now you are looking at something called the
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regionsy act as amended and a whole different process would come into play. and that process, either temporarily or more long-term, that would remove power from the king and then, of course, it would go to -- to william, who is now, of course, of age. so, you know, we're in new territory here, anderson. uncharted, to an extent, because we just learned all of this. and now we are both hearing he's positive in his attitude. things are believed to be okay. the treatment is underway. but at the moment, at the other extreme, many of us say, well, what happens if. what happens if. that's where we are now. >> sanjay, what do we know about the recent hospitalization. if you go in dealing with prostate cancer, how would you discover something else? >> yeah. well, first of all, he did not go in for, at that time,
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suspected prostate cancer, as you know. it was for an enlarged prostate. he was having symptoms. but there was no indication it was prostate cancer. but what we do know it was january 17th that he said he was going to have this procedure. january 26th he was admitted to the hospital for the procedure, was in the hospital for a couple of days, up until january 29th. and then it was a week later where he announces that he has this form of cancer. so that week in-between is sort of the interesting time. did he know at the time he was discharged from the hospital and then announced it a week later? if not, that might mean that some results of tests came back during that week. so you do a prostate operation. they may have collected some tissue, examined it under the microscope, expected it to be normal-looking. instead, they found cancer. or when you have an operation, you do a work-up and you get some blood work done, you get
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imaging tests. again that is pretty routine stuff, anderson, but in that case maybe they found something and worked it up and subsequently found that it was this other form of cancer. what we do know is that whatever it is, the treatment is expected to be outpatient. that was another piece of that statement. >> and it's already begun. >> it's already begun. so outpatient therapy versus in patient therapy. that argues against the likelihood that this was needing a surgery, for example, a separate operation for whatever this form of cancer is. so was it something on his blood work, his imaging or something from a biopsy that was done during his hospitalization? that is what we don't know, anderson. >> richard, i want to go back to your point that we're in uncharted waters, that this is -- we haven't really seen this situation before necessarily in modern times. we showed the duke of york as one of those potential counselors. i assume he's no longer in that
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mix. >> no, anderson. he would not be one. he officially is, but i cannot see any scenario where the duke of york would be made one of the official -- oh, yes. so is harry. harry is still officially one of the counselors, but the received wisdom is that it's very -- let's not even put it in the realms of possibility. neither harry nor the duke of york prince andrew would be used as counselors of state if needed to. that was one of the reasons, by the way, that the king did increase the numbers by adding the princess royal and the duke of edinburgh, his two siblings, because they dropped off the end in a sense when harry and william were born. it's all settled by law. >> and sanjay, just finally, the palace statement said the king
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is grateful for his medical team for their swift intervention which was made possible thanks to his hospital procedure. what type of tests could the king have had during the stay? i mean, what sort of tests do they do a workup and might reveal something? >> yeah. you know, when you're getting an operation, there is generally a pretty standard work-up. blood work, for example. and, again, i want to be clear, we don't know what kind of cancer this is. but the blood work could reveal an underlying blood cancer, for example. but you may get imaging around that area of the body. you have the bladder. you have intestines in that area. it sounds like they were likely surprised by whatever it is. they're going in for this pretty routine prostate sort of operation for a benign prostate problem. and then it sounds like maybe they found something or saw something. maybe they even biopsied. that's where seven days later, after his hospitalization, they come back and say he has this form of cancer.
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it could have been during that time they evaluated whatever they found and said, yeah, we didn't expect this. we're surprised, but here it is. >> all right. sanjay, richard quest, thank you very much. i want to go next to buckingham palace and keith williams who is joining us tonight. what's been the reaction so far in britain? >> anderson, people here are in shock. it is on all the front pages. it is all over social media. everyone is talking about it. people really are stunned by this news because everyone thought the king was fine. he went into hospital. he looked great coming out. we saw him and sanjay on just this week. camilla was opening a cancer center on saturday. she was asked about the king. she said he's doing his best. so the everyone thought the prognosis was he would be up and about in a month, really. but now we have this shock news that he does have cancer. he has started treatment. what we don't know, just as richard was saying, it is unchartered waters, we don't know what cancer he has or what
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treatment he's having or how long he's going to be out of action for. he's doing his constitutional duties online by zoom call, but in terms of out and about meeting people, doing what we expect to see kings doing, queen elizabeth ii said i have to be seen to be believed. he won't be doing that. we don't know how long. it could be six months. it could be longer. we don't know at this moment. >> it's interesting because the palace all along said the reason they announced he was going in for an enlarged prostate was to raise public awareness. and it did. many people called their doctors to make appointments themselves. they're not revealing what kind of cancer the king has right now, what kind of treatment he's receiving. does that surprise you at this stage? >> well, what we're seeing, anderson, is really an unprecedented level of transparency from the royal family. for example, the king's grandfather george vi, no one knew he has lung cancer. and even his daughter didn't
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know, so she went off on a tour to kenya and he died while she was there. and the queen, if she was ill, we didn't know until the day she passed away. charles is a very different monarch. he said in a statement he wanted to be open about his cancer to stop speculation, but also to aid public understanding of cancer across the world. and this is a disease that 1 in 2 of us can have a cancer diagnosis. thousands of people in the uk are diagnosed every day. the influence of royals talking about conditions like this can be very significant. but there is only so far we're going to be told. this is what the royals have been wrestling with throughout the 21st century, every since they let cameras in to the coronation of the queen, how much information to give. these days you can't just hush it all up. there are camera phones. there are leaks. there are social media. i think eventually the king will tell us what cancer it is he's been suffering from, perhaps via
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the charity or an event. but i think we will see some updates thanking people for their well wishing but also saying this is how long we can expect to see the king away from the public eye. i think when the king does say what kind of cancer he's had, it will really help people. and it will help, as you're saying, people getting checked, getting early checked because this is key to early diagnosis and saving lives. >> how significant is it that prince harry will be traveling from the u.s. to visit his dad? >> i think it is very significant. i think that's one reason why they did have to announce it because otherwise people would be saying, why is prince harry coming? he's rushing over for a reason. this is a family. this is a business and a family. it is a moment of reconciliation. harry is here to support the king. and he is, just as you were discussing with richard there, he's once of the counselors of state. if the king has to have an operation, the counselors of state will step in for that moment. and we do expect about four of
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them. he's got about four of them to do it. so harry, theoretically would be key in that role, and he would be a counsel of state in that role if he is here. we don't know how long he will stay. i do expect him to be coming, arriving tomorrow or the day after. it is clearly very serious and something that he wants to be by his father's side for. coming up next, lawmakers who demanded tough border legislation now trying to kill it. the signs they're you can seeding and what a house republican makes of it. live reporting from the flooding in south carolina where new flood warnings are up and new rain is falling.
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just a day after the public got its first look at it, key republican senators are signaling a tough new bipartisan border deal could be dead. house republican leaders saying any consideration of this bill in its current bill is a waste of time. it is dead on arrival in the house. we encourage the u.s. senate to reject it. now, this is the bipartisan legislation negotiated by chris murphy, chkyrsten sinema and jas langeford. it drastically shortens the asylum process, funds
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immigration courts and judges, permits the president to close the border when officers encounter more than 5,000 asylum seekers a day and mandates it when they top 5,000. quote, if our law were in effect, this border would have been closed every single day this year. today the union representing border patrol officers endorsed the measure saying it would codify into law authorities that u.s. border patrol agents never had in the past. that's the same border patrol union that endorsed donald trump in 2020. as we have been reporting for weeks now, this is legislation that house republicans demands, even refusing to consider aid to ukraine and israel without it. they began opposing it once the former president came out against it, despite not having seen it. now that they have, take a look. >> any republican that supports it supports open borders. >> have you read all 370 pages of this bill? >> we are working through it. we have about 50 pages more to
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go. from what we can tell, the measures that we bill are extremely undesirable that keep our border open, that water down the asylum system. it's not good for the country. >> this is the opposite. that's why i'm asking. >> the fox anchor is actually right. the bill makes it harder to get asylum and easier to shut down the asylum process entirely when the numbers of asylum seekers gets too large. they're still doing now that they have or, as she said, we have been reading it, which means not she but maybe her staff. so the former president saying, the ridiculous border bill is nothing more than a highly sophisticated trap for republicans to assume the blame on what the radical left democrats have done to our border, just in time for our most important ever election. don't fall for it. that and not policy appears to be driving many republicans in the house tonight. even though some, namely the senate republican leaders, seem
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to know they should be doing otherwise. >> this is a humanitarian and security crisis of historic proportions. and senate republicans have insisted not just for months but for years that this urgent crisis demanded action. it is not time. it finally meets those challenges head-on. >> in a moment, ken buck. let's go to melanie with the very latest on capitol hill where a meeting between gop senators has just broken up. what have you learned about the prospects? >> at this very moment, it looks like this deal to secure the border is destined to fail on wednesday. senator republicans met for over an hour this evening in the capitol where they discussed the deal. we're told there was a robust and animated discussion. republicans signaling that the appetite and the votes just aren't there inside the gop.
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in fact, james langeford, he is the lead republican negotiator on this package, told our colleague that he does not expect the votes to be there for the procedure vote on wednesday. remember, the senate needs 60 votes in order to advance any legislation. so this is a very ominous and damning sign. it is also a huge blow to republicans like langeford, like mitch mcconnell who have been trying and hoping to trade border security provisions in exchange for additional ukraine aid. as mcconnell has noted in private behind closed doors, the politics of this has really changed for republicans. a huge reason for that, anderson, is former president donald trump, who has been lobbying privately and publicly republicans to reject this deal. >> thanks very much. joining us now is ken buck. congressman, thanks for being with us. have you had a chance to review this? and have you made a decision on whether to support it or not? >> i have skimmed the bill.
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i have talked to my staff about the bill. frankly, we will make a decision one way or another until the senate passes the bill with its amendments. i have no idea what the bill is going to look like a few weeks from now. my understanding about the wednesday vote is a lot of the senators asked for more time to read it, and that's why they are going to delay until after wednesday to consider it on the floor. >> the national border patrol council and labor union of border patrol workers that has allied itself in the past with the former president, they have come out in favor of the bill saying, while not perfect, the border control act is a step in the right direction, far better than the current status quo. do you put much weight in their opinion? >> i absolutely do. and i think it's, frankly, anderson, irresponsible to say that something is dead on arrival when we haven't seen the final product from the senate. we have to have a starting place. this bill may be the starting place to try to deal with the
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border crisis. i want to look at the bill more carefully. i want to try to improve the bill to the point where we can pass it in the senate and in the house. >> do you think -- i mean, are you saying your house colleagues have been irresponsible by saying it is dead on arrival? >> i think it is irresponsible to say something is dead on arrival that you don't know what's in it because it hasn't passed the senate yet, yes. >> members of the house have claimed that the bill expands work authorization for people coming across and incentivizes legal immigration. the house bill did that as well. and according to senators, their bill would only extend them for the course of asylum here, which would be like three months. so it seems like with this senate bill, at least what they're saying, is that the asylum process would be radically overhauled. as you well know, the asylum process is absurd. people can wait seven years before an asylum hearing. meanwhile, they're in the country and they're working
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illegally because they're not allowed to work legally. does that -- i mean, the idea of reforming the asylum process, i assume, is important to you. >> it's absolutely important. and making asylum more clear that it is not for economic reasons. it is only because of a credible threat of harm that you can get asylum, and that standard is raised in this bill. it should be raised. and hopefully that slows down the process. i would still be in favor of a remain in mexico policy where people can apply for asylum, but they aren't in this country until after a decision is made. >> i mean, that's the crazy thing about the asylum process now. even though it takes years, as you pointed out, many of the claims that people have, which are, you know, really coming for economic reasons. they want a better life for their family, which is certainly understandable. but that doesn't mean you get asylum. the asylum is for political persecution, religious
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persecution, whatever it may be. a lot of those claims could be easily adjudicated quickly if only the court system wasn't so backlogged. >> that's right. part of the reason is because we've had this large, large number of people come across. so if there is an expedited review process, i believe that message will get out and hopefully slow down the flow of people. but it will take some time to hire these judges and find the space for them and staff. and, so, it is not something that the bill passes in three weeks. >> right. >> it is going to happen very quickly. this is going to take a year or two to put this whole process in place. >> the former president has said that only a perfect bill is acceptable. obviously, you know, perfect is -- is impossible in politics. if you believe there is a national security crisis at the southern border and a fentanyl crisis, which there certainly is, wouldn't -- i mean, are you okay with an imperfect bill that saves lives and makes serious
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progress, you know, in the short term? >> i am fine with an improved immigration process. we need to fix our legal immigration process, so those folks who want to come to this country to improve their economic status, give their kids a better chance at life and they have a skill that we need in this country, i'm absolutely in favor of fixing our legal immigration process. at the same time, we have got to make it absolutely clear that we don't have an open border. and certainly not to drug dealers and human traffickers. >> thank you. >> thank you. more breaking news tonight. historic levels of rain fall in southern california is incredible. it produced flash floods. more rain coming. nick joins us live from l.a. next.
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breaking news from southern california. flash flooding and mud slides still threatening los angeles tonight. this is video we received just a short time ago. a man trapped on top of his car surrounded by flood waters in the san fernando valley. fire and rescue able to reach him. using polls to test the ground to make sure the ground is safe to walk him out. all in all, one 41-year-old man confirmed dead after a tree fell in the backyard. faced power outages, slow-moving storms expected in the area which is now preparing for flooding. one of the los angeles neighborhoods has seen significant damage. >> rain, that's the headline. it started late yesterday morning, yesterday sunday
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morning. if you look what's happened, this is a lane, used to be a lane. it is now basically a river. it is just -- i mean, roads impassable, a chaotic commute right now. you mentioned rain fall totals. well, we just got the totals for the time since this system moved in. bel air right now is top of the charts. they have had nearly a foot of rain in the past couple of days. and if you see these cacti, that gives you an idea of the kind of weather we're more used to around these parts. the hollywood hills rain lash, not sun kissed. mud slides, rock slides, homes evacuated, homes lost. >> this is the foundation of 10334 caribou lane.
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and this is where the house sits now. >> sunday was the wettest day in los angeles in nearly 20 years. more than 4 inches fell. that's more than a month's worth of rain. that's a water rescue underway. the l.a. river rose 7 feet in just 9 hours. some creeks are up over 12. all this down to a so-called atmospheric river up above. a conveyer belt of moisture fueled by el nino and the unusually warm pacific. atmospheric rivers can carry 20 times more water than the mississippi. el nino is now classed as very strong. only the fourth time it's reached that level in 50 years. combined with oceans already warm from climate change, it's super charging these type of storms. el nino also changes the jet
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stream, making storms more likely to take aim directly at california. this one has been moving slowly, creating rivers of rain, mud and debris. >> it sounded like a plane crashing or maybe a little freight train or something like that. >> the storm sliding through beverly hills, l.a. and beyond. 14 million people now officially at high risk levels. 4 of 4 for excessive rain fall. remember, this state was recently in a mega drought. then record rain fall last winter. and now this. on sunday, hurricane force winds cut power to over half a million customers, mostly further north, hitting 77 miles an hour at san francisco airport, peaking at 102. angeliños today told to exercise caution if you must commute. schools closed.
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stayed open across much of l.a. the mayor says angeliños just aren't used to this kind of weather. but with climate change, they will likely have to get used to it. and we're expecting this rain to stick around through tomorrow, and then the rain might move away, and it might even come back. the problem is we've actually had quite a lot of rain the last couple weeks. it's already saturated. 120 rock mud slides already. the fear is more of these hill slides will slip the more rain we get. >> seeing that house just swept off its foundation is incredible. nick, appreciate it. these are pictures of one of the homes damaged by the mud slides. the houses in baldwin hills neighborhood is owned by my next guest. thanks for being with us. how are -- how are you doing? how is your house? what are you seeing right now around in your house? >> you want to see?
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>> sure. >> okay. it's -- so it's just a big mud pocket right now. it's kind of dark outside, so i don't know if you are going to be able to see outside, but we'll go in my bedroom first. >> now, is your bedroom where -- i read that there is three feet of mud or so on your bedroom. >> hop on. so this is -- this is where the mud came in to my room. i hope you can see it. >> wait. is that a glass sliding door? >> yes. >> so it broke through that? >> so it broke through, and so there is that. that's the outside. >> wow. >> and the mud on the floor is like maybe four or five inches. and then we're going to the -- i
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will just go out to the backyard because we can -- it's really dark. >> what time did the mud come into your house? >> this is -- this is -- this is the backyard. >> wow! oh, my gosh. >> so it's -- yeah. this is it. >> and is your car okay? i mean, are you able to get out if you need to? >> yeah. what i did was this morning when we saw the bedroom had been breached, i pulled the car out of the driveway -- i mean out of the garage because i wanted to make sure that it didn't get stuck. if there was any kind of structural damage, i didn't want the garage door to be, you know, compromised, so i just pulled the car out. >> it must have been terrifying. i mean, this happening in the night. >> well, it's -- well, the thing is, it was a slow -- it was
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slow. i heard at 4:00 a.m. a crack, and so i thought maybe one of the trees had come down or coming down. and i looked out because it was, you know, 4:00 in the morning, it's dark, and i saw a little bit of mud. like literally like maybe just mud and water. and i went downstairs to -- i had a house guest. went downstairs, asked her if we could put towels because i didn't want -- i didn't want the mud to get into the house. and that's when we -- i called the fire department. they came out. they said, you know, that it looked okay. just stay on the front of the house. we were on the front of the house. i was calling my insurance guy. we heard this big, huge crash and we went back there. and that's when that big huge -- but it was only at that point three feet tall. now it is about seven feet. >> that's incredible. >> and, yeah, it's pretty bad.
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>> i'm so sorry for what you are going through. i mean, so many people are. but keep up your spirits, and i appreciate talking to you. we will check back in with you and see how things progress. do you think insurance will pick this up? >> that's the question of the hour because mayor bass was here, mayor bass and heather hud and the police and the fire chief and they asked her about that because originally they -- my agent said that they don't usually do anything with slides. but they asked her about it. so when she came to the house, this crew was here, and one of the journalists asked her about that. so we'll see. >> all right. we'll see. dion, i appreciate it. you stay safe. >> you're welcome. you, too. thank you. coming up, former president making the case to stay on the ballot in colorado. it is his team's last filing before oral arguments on
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thursday. we will take a look at their last court filing next.
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three days ahead of oral arguments before the supreme court on whether donald trump may remain on colorado's primary ballot, the former president's legal team called the attempt to remove him, quote, anti-democratic in a filing. they compared him to how it works in venezuela. colorado signed its section 3 of
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the 14th amendment known as the insurrection clause. other states have cited the same clause. joining me now is jessica roth, a former federal prosecutor and cnn legal analyst karen p., chief assistant district attorney. what sticks out to you about the latest filing? >> well, the introduction sticks out. it was clearly addressed to the public as much as the court. it included the phrase of what people do in socialistic dictatorships. it tried to frame this as an action to keep the republican front runner off the ballot. he cited his victories in iowa and new hampshire. but then he pivoted to the more technical legal arguments that are the substance of the case and reiterated the arguments he made in his opening brief, opening up to the idea that the presidency is not an office to which section 3 appliapplies. he emphasizes he did not engage in insurrection within the
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meaning of that storm and also that section 3 is not self-executing, that there needs to be some action by congress that would authorize states to make these ajdjudications of whether or not he is qualified. that's where he focuses most. >> karen, in the filing, to jessica's point, the attorneys said he's the presumptive republican nominee and the leading candidate for president of the united states. and our system of government for the people and by the people, the american people, not courts or election officials should choose the next president. do you think based on that basic principal would be enough to sway the majority of the court, or will the key be the 14th amendment and section 3? >> well, there is certainly other factors that could disqualify someone from being put on a ballot. age is one. you have to be 35, for example, to be elected president. so it will just depend on whether the supreme court thinks about this as a qualification, is engaging in insurrection more like a qualification or is it
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more of a technical off ramp that either, as jessica was saying, it doesn't apply to the presidency. he didn't take an oath to support the constitution. he made a bunch of arguments like that. it is all about interpreting what the -- what the framers meant when they drafted the 14th amendment section 3 back in the time of the civil war. >> is it -- i mean, it is possible that the supreme court, jessica may just avoid the whole insurrection thing totally. >> they only have to get to the question of whether he engaged in insurrection if they find that the president is covered by section 3 of the 14th amendment. that's why you have heard a hlo of people focussing on this issue because that's the easiest off ramp because he's not somebody to whom section 3 applies. it is only if they are entertaining a decision that finds against him on that question that they would have to move on to the next issue, which might be, doesn't have to be this one, but it might well be did he engage in insurrection as
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they understand that term interpreting section 3 of the 14th amendment. that would actually may require them to look at the facts that were presented and whether donald trump engaged in what could be defined as insurrection. so i'll be interested to hear if they get to that issue on thursday. >> the trial court judge in colorado found that it did not apply to the presidency, to the office of the presidency. it was the supreme court of colorado that said, no, it does. so the supreme court could use that as an off ramp. >> also, march 4th was to be the start of the trial. the judge on the federal election interference case, that's now been postponed based on the d.c. appeals court ruling. what's the time line on that? >> i mean, everybody who has guessed when the d.c. circuit is going to rule on presidential immunity, i think, has been wrong. everyone thought it was going to have happened already. and, so, it could happen any time. and then after that, there are still a few more appeals that
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could happen to continue to delay it. for example, donald trump could ask that the entire d.c. circuit rule on the case because this was only before a three-judge panel. he could also ask the united states supreme court to hear the case. so a few things -- >> it will be dragged on for quite some time. >> it could. it also also get mandated back to the trial court. but there is -- there is still a lot in play. and, so, i think we have to all get ready for the manhattan da's office case to be the first case to go to trial. >> karen, appreciate it. thank you as well. ahead of the south carolina primary, republican presidential candidate nikki haley is attacking former president trump and president biden over their age. the question in a state with a lot of retirees moving in, is that message resonating with voters? that's next.
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presidential candidate nikki haley requested secret service protection. with less than two weeks to go until primary voters go to the polls, the former south carolina governor is sharpening her attacks on donald trump, including her age and president biden's. the question is in a state with so many retirees and many moving there all the time, do others agree with her. kylie atwood reports.
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>> reporter: these are people making reports on our national security. these are people making decisions on the future of our economy. we need to know they're at the top of their game. >> nikki haley not backing away from her argument that the president should not be in their 80s. >> mandatory mental competency tests for politicians over 75 years old. >> it has been a piece of her pitch to voters from day one, one that she has both sharpened. >> why with reallows ourselves to have two 80-year-olds who both are diminished, whether it is in their character or in their mental capacity. >> and played with in recent weeks. >> sixth sense, do you remember that one? i see dead people. >> yeah. that's what voters will say if they see you and joe on the ballot. >> often to an audience full of retirees like this bar in hilton head, south carolina. >> i just don't think our country should be with somebody
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who is going on its way out when we still have so much young blood. >> for 69-year-old maureen, the idea of moving to a new generation is energizing. south carolina was the fastest-growing state in 2023. largely because of an influx of almost 40,000 retirees. and haley is betting that they get her argument. >> i think older people see it, too. they know we need a new generational leader. >> this 61-year-old is one of them. >> whether it is the biden ticket or the trump ticket, i do feel that it is very important to look at age and consider age and cognitive skills. >> but not everyone considering the state's former governor found it to be the best. >> i do think that we still have people that are 78 and 80 that can be senators and representatives. >> for edward spears, currently an undecided gop voter, it is just a part of the game. >> she wants to be elected.
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obviously a younger candidate. i would do the same thing. that's just a strategy. >> you are 82. do you find her argument about age and not wanting an 80-year-old in the white house offensive at all? >> no, it is just politics. >> for older trump supporters, even those interested in haley, who moved full-time to hilton head nine years ago, the tactic of going after trump's age hasn't been a decisive factor because they are squarely set on voting for the former president. >> that's not right. because we're individuals. >> but if she weren't doing this age thing, it is not like you would go for her if she had left that argument in the past. >> if trump were not running, yes, i would. also, i'm stubborn. >> now, as you said at the out set, nikki haley's campaign said they had their best fund-raising campaign in january, bringing
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1$16.5 million. and her campaign manager said they are committed to continuing to fight so long as they have the resources to do so. they clearly have significant resources to do so right now. she said they will go the distance. the question is what does going the distance mean? that will be largely contingent on what things look like for her after the primary in her home state. >> thanks so much. next, remembering the retired firefighter and his historic moment in the days after the 9/11 attacks.
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tonight we remember a retired firefighter that stood with george bush after the attacks on 9/11. he had rushed to ground zero and talked his way through several check points to get there and got to work searching the rubble for survivors. he kept going back. in a tribute, former president bush said today his courage represented the defiant, resilient spirit of new yorkers and americans after 9/11. and certainly we