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a possible path to peace. hamas answers israel's offer with a three-step proposal for freeing the hostages it's holding and eventually ending the war in gaza. is it a deal that benjamin netanyahu can accept? secretary of state anthony blinken is trying to persuade israel to sign on. we will be hearing from him next hour. and republicans try to impeach a cabinet official and fail in embarrassing fashion. then try to pass their israel aid bill and fail again in embarrassing fashion. even some republicans wondering if the new speakers inexperience is showing. an alarming campaign by chinese hackers to infiltrate critical u.s. infrastructure. we are following these developing studies -- stories and more. all here in the cnn newsroom.
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>> welcome to cnn news central. i'm breanne keeler alongside jessica dean and we are seeing a high-stakes back-and-forth that could determine the fate of dozens of hostages in gaza. secretary of state tony blinking is in the region trying to shepherd in a hostage deal that would pause the fighting but the counteroffer goes further than a pause calling for ending the fight. >> alex is here with more. walk us through the sticking points in the process for success. >> the prospects to getting to an initial phase are pretty good. everything we've heard out of most of the parties is rather optimistic that something could happen in the coming days and weeks. it does not appear to be immediate. i've been listening to prime minister netanyahu, who, for the first time in public was responding to hamas's counterproposal that just came
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out yesterday and he said we haven't committed to anything. we haven't committed to any of the crazy demands from hamas. that isn't the most positive reaction but also not a full throated rejection and the major sticking points i see at this point, there are so many points to this potential multiphase deal that would lead to the release of more than 100 hostages, hopefully as well as to a significant pause in the fighting but the major sticking points are the presence of the israeli soldiers in gaza. hamas wants them all out at least in a second phase. israel is saying that is essentially a nonstarter. there's also the question of visitors in exchange for the hostages to be released, hamas wants palestinian prisoners and they are asking for a huge number including 500 they say they want to name who israel would say have blood on their
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hands. and finally, i think the biggest sticking point is, hamas wants to see an end to this war and at the end of this pause, the war is over, whereas israel says there is still work to be done to eradicate hamas for a complete victory. >> how much sway does secretary blinkin actually have over benjamin netanyahu here? >> there are three types of pressure we are seeing come to bear here. the domestic pressure which is immense. people want to see these hostages home. i've spent time with these families. they've told me do whatever it takes. you can release all the palestinian prisoners you want to get these hostages home. there is international pressure. israel is increasingly isolated around the world because we have a growing number of countries calling for a cease- fire and american pressure. america has really stood by israel throughout this not calling for a cease-fire, not calling for an end to the war, not voting against israel and the united nations. so there is not only that pressure from the united states to wind down this war but there
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are also tariffs and things the u.s. can offer. more military aid with fewer conditions. saudi normalization with israel which is something that netanyahu would certainly like to see. certainly the impression i'm getting speaking with u.s. officials is that the u.s. sees this not just as a way to pause the fighting and more humanitarian aid into gaza and get the hostages out but really, the key to unlocking the end of this war. to getting to a place of more stability and peace, but there are major questions that still need to be answered. >> thanks for that reporting. minutes from now senate republicans expected to tank a major bipartisan border deal and foreign aid package. this would be the most significant bill in decades to address the unprecedented surge in migrants at the southern border. this is an issue that has vexed congress for decades but gop
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infighting and pressure from the former president donald trump have effectively killed it. >> this is going to what has been an embarrassing 24 hours for republicans on capitol hill. in the house yesterday gop leadership to impeach homeland security officer alejandro mayorkas and just moments later they rejected their own stand- alone bill that would provide more than $17 billion in aid to israel. let's go now to melanie on this. what more are we hearing from house speaker mike johnson? >> reporter: there are a lot of questions right now about the fate of a potential standalone israel ukraine package. something the senate is planning to move on once the border security package fails in the 2:00 hour which is what we are expecting. speaker mike johnson was asked whether he would put a standalone israel and ukraine package on the floor and he said we need to see what the senate comes over with. so he was noncommittal on that subject and that could be a huge problem for him because many republicans in his
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conference are opposed to additional ukraine aid. and johnson really is struggling to manage his unruly, razor thin majority which is what led to those two embarrassing defeats on the house for last night. we saw them fail to impeach alejandro mayorkas, the homeland security secretary that has been a longtime priority of the gop and they also failed -- israel aid package among opposition from democrats and republicans. here is what -- had to say. >> democracy is divided. we have a razor thin majority here and every vote counts. you are seeing the messy sausage making and the process of democracy play out. it's not always clean or pretty but the job will be done at the end of the day. >> republicans trying to pick up the pieces here. on the impeachment of mayorkas,
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they are trying to bring this back up again. republicans are confident that one steve scalise, the majority leader comes back they will ultimately have the votes to impeach mayorkas but there are a lot of questions in the capital right now about the gop's ability to govern. >> thank you for that report. joining us to discuss all of that, and there is plenty of it, we have political analyst gloria borge are and political commentator and republican strategist alice stewart. it was so interesting to hear the speaker there say we are governing here, sometimes it's messy. there's messy and then there is a dumpster fire that you can see from outer space and he knows that. he knows how embarrassing this was. >> first of all they are not governing and secondly, yes, democracy is messy but house republicans are messier and what happened yesterday was a result of house republicans not having the votes and the first rule of leadership is understanding how to count and they say they were surprised that democrats brought a member of congress back in a
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wheelchair to vote but they shouldn't have been surprised. this is congress and they put everything on the line on mayorkas. this raises questions. if impeachment for biden got to the floor, what would happen with that? there are all kinds of issues about leadership here that this opens up a pandora's box. >> i want to ask you about that because you hear jonathan trying to normal -- normalize this. this is the sausage making process. but we've been on the hill, you've been on the hill, this is not normal sausage making we've been watching and you saw thomas massey who is pretty far right, he tweeted getting rid of speaker mccarthy is turned into an unmitigated disaster. he is getting heat from people within his own party. what does this mean for johnson's leadership moving forward and more broadly for america as things need to still get done? >> this is the problem and perils of having such a razor thin majority. you have to learn how to count.
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you have to know where you stand before you take it to the floor because if you take it to the floor and you don't have the votes then it is a hugely embarrassing loss. to your point, there are many republicans that supported johnson and his leadership that they are frustrated with the fact that they are not getting things done and he says we had a razor thin majority and things are difficult, but when you don't have certain people there, enough people to make these votes like scalise, you have to make sure you do have the votes and they did a procedural move towards the end, bruce moore voted no on this so they can bring it back. there is more than likely an opportunity for them to bring it back and have the conversation again but to be frank, i view this from the standpoint of just because you disagree with mayorkas on policy, that doesn't mean there is grounds for impeachment and there's more important things they can be focusing on like
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border security. so, to the point of republicans who have been saying we need to secure the border and we need immigration reform, we have a bipartisan reform on the table and they are so -bent on no , they won't listen to details and have the negotiations. >> that brings us to today. that sausage making last night, just wait, there is more. this is a procedural vote of this agreement that has been weeks and weeks in the making and that honestly, the president has come so far in giving republicans changes to asylum, alice. it's stunning. i wonder if republicans are ever going to get something like this. >> they wouldn't under donald trump, for sure. >> they've spent their time, and i think you would agree, all of their time saying we need a serious border bill. so they get a serious border bill and, they have conservative senator langford out there working hard, saying
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to people, i feel like i've been run over by a bus and backed up over by a bus again and that's exactly what happened because donald trump put his thumb on the scale and said i don't want this so, they are saying they asked for a tough border bill, they got a tough border bill, and now they are saying they don't want it. that sounds a little childish to me. >> is there any question now, i think we've had this conversation multiple times where it's, are there parts of the party that donald trump doesn't have control over? senate republicans, for a long time, mitch mcconnell did have some independence. it doesn't look like it anymore. >> there are no parts of the party in washington, d.c. that donald trump doesn't have his finger on, especially in public and especially when it comes to putting their name on the line and voting on these issues and the concern that many have is that we do acknowledge that there needs to be tighter security at the border and we do think there needs to be immigration reform and the fact that donald trump and many refused to even listen to the text of this bill before they made a decision, they want it
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to be a firm no on this, it's extremely automatic. donald trump says i want this to be perfect and you are letting the perfect the enemy of the good and making meaningful incremental immigration reform, and that is the problem. but it's not just republicans who have a problem with this. hispanic caucus in the senate has concerns that there are no protections for dreamers. there are people on both sides with concerns which is all the more reason to continue to have negotiations and make this a bill that satisfies more people in the process. >> but biden was willing to do it. this is important. he was really willing to take on people in his own party who would be upset. now what he's got is a campaign issue because he can go out now and say, i gave them a serious border control bill and they nixed it. the republicans nixed it
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because they wanted a campaign issue instead and i guarantee you that biden will be campaigning on this. >> does that get at some of those independent voters? that may be were on the fence and biden can go and say to them, look, i tried. does that work? >> there are a lot of independent voters and the people that are going to make a real difference in this general election, that are going to read into this, democrats and president biden trying to make meaningful immigration reform and republicans didn't do so. but republicans are trying to make the case that there needs to be -- we need to have more of an emphasis on migrants coming into this country. we need to stem the flow of them coming into this country. that's going to be their priority, number one. that's what they're focusing on and continuing to push that message. they feel as though donald trump did a better job in controlling the flow of migrants into the country. president biden came in and overturned some of the policies that john put into place so that has led us to this situation that we are in.
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that is the message that republicans will continue to put out there, but -- >> they both had record numbers. the fact is, what this bill would afford, let's say donald trump worked to become president again, he would want this authority, because he tried to use this authority in a federal court shut him down so it's pretty shortsighted also for him as well. this is something he actually wanted. >> that he wants the issue. and i think the next question is, what happens to the aid part of this package? to the ukraine that they are going to be dealing with? would republicans go for a clean bill that provides aid to ukraine and israel and protects taiwan? will they do that now? speaker johnson, who pooh- poohed it, didn't really rule it out this morning because what do republicans have to show for governance? you know? >> that's one of the issues senator langford pushed back on this morning and late yesterday was donald trump did have the opportunity to do a lot of what is in this current measure and
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didn't do so in 2017, 2018, or 2019. he had the chance to do so and he didn't so now is an opportunity to encourage republicans and democrats to work together to make changes. >> we will see. there will be more to come, i'm sure. thank you, good to see you. last-minute preparations underway for what is said to be a historic day at the supreme court. new reporting on how donald trump's attorneys are preparing to make the case that he should not be banned from state ballots. and the u.s. marine corps has found that military helicopter that had gone missing overnight. at least five marines were on board here. what we are learning about the search efforts ahead, on cnn news central.
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we are less than 24 hours away from a supreme court hearing with potentially huge implications for former president trump's potential presidential run and yet the former president is apparently not going to attend. he will be leaving it to his lawyers to argue why he shouldn't be barred from state pallets over the january 6 interests -- insurrection. >> not due to lack of interest but rather a sign of how serious he considers the case, which is interesting. a source close to his legal team telling cnn there is no upside to him attending these legal arguments. the stakes couldn't be higher. let's discuss this now with paula reid and joan. right to see both of you. let's talk about this shift in strategy. donald trump has -- what do you think is the thinking here? >> speaking to sources it was interesting to learn what a
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contrast the approaches here to what we've seen over the past few weeks and months where they've tried to bring the campaign to any courtroom hearing including the d.c. circuit. now the change-up is partly because they recognize the stakes are high here. this is a more serious matter had the highest court in the land. also a tacit admission that the circus approach didn't quite serve them in the way they had hoped, right? so we are seeing this more traditional, disciplined approach. while trump is not expected to be there, he will be represented by jonathan mitchell. a very experienced lawyer. his sixth time arguing before the supreme court. this is someone who writes articles on textualism. not the usual trump lawyer. today and yesterday they've been engaged in mock arguments. that something most people would do to prepare for the supreme court but the trump team not always conventional and they do expect that they will win on the merits of this case which is also why they feel more confident, leaning more into the legal and less into the political antics.
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>> when it comes to political, that is an area that the chief justice is trying to steer the port clear of yet it's kind of difficult, inherently, when dealing with something like this. how is the court going to look at this issue? >> they have a legal question. there are several questions that go to the text of this section of the 14th amendment that would bar anyone who had taken an oath to uphold the constitution, and then, insight it or engaged or -- in insurrection. the lawyers from colorado that are challenging donald trump and wanting him off the ballot are going to try to get the justices to focus on january 6 and the attack on the capital but i think this is where the chief is going to try to steer the conversation. toward the text of the constitutional provision and away from the horrendous activities that we all witnessed on january 6th and the chief justice who sits at the center of the bench also is
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the strategic center of the bench and he has gotten into the breach before and been able , in very tough cases, like the obamacare case in 2012 or previous trump cases in 2020, been able to figure out a way to get a majority or nearly unanimous court by strategically working with justices and i think what we are going to hear tomorrow is where he is headed on these questions. there are easily a dozen legal issues that they could plummet here including, did donald trump engage in insurrection but i think the chief will try to steer away from that and steer away from political considerations, but he is well aware that this whole thing is clouded in the politics of january 6th but also the politics of this year's election and however they decide this case could actually influence who becomes the next president of the united states.
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>> and to that end, if there was a unanimous ruling on this, that could dispel some partisanship claims. is that out of the realm of possibility? is trump's legal team considering that could happen? >> they are confident they will likely prevail on the merits but unclear what that form may take. it would be tidy for them and the court and the justices under pressure to try to build consensus. this is a court under scrutiny for questions about partisanship and ethics so he is going to be under a lot of pressure to try to build consensus somewhere in the middle. it's certainly possible there could be a unanimous decision but i think what's interesting is this is not only a test for trump that really a test for the chief justice and the court. >> it certainly is. paula and joan, thank you. it is the case that could upend the presidential election. will trump be on the ballot? we listen live as they argue
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starting tomorrow at 9:00 on cnn. and days after the fbi director warned chinese hackers could wreak havoc on the u.s. we have learned that hackers have already been lurking in u.s. infrastructure systems for years. new cnn reporting is just ahead. investigators say they remain uncertain about why four vertical boats -- bolts were missing. just gone from a 737 max 9, allowing a whole to blow open midflight at 16,000 feet. ahead, why the chair warns that this could happen again.
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you by mesobook.com. this just in, rescuers have located a military helicopter that went missing overnight but no word yet on what has happened to the five marines who were on board the helicopter. the third marine aircraft wing posted online the aircraft was located in pine valley california earlier today. >> these marines were flying in a ch super stallion helicopter when it was reported, quote, overdue. natosha bertran is covering the story from the pentagon. what can you tell us about the search here? >> reporter: the search had been centered around a very remote, snow-covered area of cleveland national forest which is outside of san diego. and according to the marines now, they have located that
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helicopter really in the vicinity of that area in pine valley california but the question now is, what is the fate of the five marines who were on board? the marine corps has not said yet. they said search and rescue operations are still underway to find those marines on the condition of the helicopter was also not immediately disclosed here. but, the bottom line is that this helicopter apparently was flying from nevada to california and it was on a training mission when it disappeared late last night. apparently the last ping from the helicopter came in around 11:30 p.m. and then the california fire department was notified of this around 2:30 a.m. they tried to go out to the scene, to try to figure out where the helicopter had potentially landed, but the conditions -- the weather conditions -- were simply too bad so they had to call off the search late last night. they resumed this morning and it now appears they have been
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able to locate that helicopter. it's important to note this particular model of helicopter has been involved in three different incidents over the last decade or so including one in 2018 where it crashed again in california and killed all four marines on board at the time so right now we still don't know what the fate of those five marines are. they are continuing search and rescue operations in the marine corps said they will continue to update us as information becomes available. >> all right, natosha, thank you for the latest. the systems that provide americans the essentials of modern life, water and power, have been under attack by chinese hackers for much longer than previously thought. a new report reveals infiltrators directed by chinese government have been accessing u.s. infrastructure computer networks for at least five years. >> this revelation adds to the urgent message the fbi director sent congress last week. >> china's hackers are positioning on american infrastructure in preparation
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to wreak havoc. >> cnn cybersecurity reporter sean -- broke this story. we learned a lot about this when the fbi director testified last week on the hill. tell us about what you found. >> this report really shows us that the hackers were in the systems a lot longer than we previously knew. they are kind of burrowing their way in, and at least five years ago, they started probing the computer networks of things like water treatment plants, energy plants, and what they are looking for is a way to get from the more public i.t. systems that are out there to the sensitive computer networks that interact with machinery and keep the lights on and that kind of thing. it is very much a long game that they are playing and this report that cnn obtained that is out publicly really outlines the cat and mouse game that is going on with the u.s. government and with the u.s. hackers and critical
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infrastructure. they've tried to evict them. they've come back. it's really an ongoing thing and it's all in the context of the u.s., china relationship over taiwan. for a long time, u.s. officials were warning us about russian hackers that were doing something similar but now with the gop -- geopolitical landscape changing, we are seeing how cyber operations has come to the forefront in trying to project power and how the u.s. is trying to call that out. the chinese embassy has denied these allegations and, in turn, pointed their finger at the u.s. for conducting cyber attacks. >> cyber officials have talked a little bit about what this could look like but worst case scenario, if china infiltrates these systems, what kind of attack could they pull off and how would that affect the day to day life of americans?
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>> that's a great question and what we are seeing from the public reporting and officials i talked to is, it could -- it's a hypothetical, right? it's in the event of, say china invades taiwan and the u.s. military wants to mobilize resources from guam in the pacific or some other u.s. territory. the transportation hubs and nodes there in the computer networks that run those things could get hit. it could be an effort to delay and slow and confuse people in the u.s. while half a world away, china is invading taiwan. it is a scenario but it's an increasingly likely scenario given where we are in the global landscape unfortunately. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. prince william makes his first appearance since his father's cancer diagnosis. what we are learning about the
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prince's return to political engagements. a new streaming service set to launch this fall and it may have big implications for how we watch everything from football to hockey. stay with us.
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the ntsb says it's still not clear why four critical bolts were missing from the boeing 737 max 9 that lost its door plug midflight. the alaska airlines jet was at 16,000 feet when the blowout happened on a preliminary report says the the bolts were originally installed but then removed. >> which is incredibly alarming especially if you consider it could happen again. we have -- here with us on the ntsb findings and what boeing
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is saying, this report is preliminary but it's kind of alarming this could happen again because you have the chair of the ntsb raising that specter. >> and this is a bombshell from the ntsb. this investigation has focused on the door plug bolts from the start. there were four bolts like this one here that are in the side of the fuselage of the max 9. they hold the door plug into the airplane. there are two at the top of the door plug and two at the bottom. both alaska and united said they found planes in their fleets with loose bolts but now the ntsb says alaska flight 1282 was missing all four bolts. how were they able to tell? investigators recover the door from a backyard in portland and brought it to a lab in d.c. for inspection. the ntsb saw patterns that showed the door plug move up and out. they also noticed a lack of damage around the bolt holes, meaning that the bolts were not
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there. here is the smoking gun from the report. it says the four bolts that prevent upward movement of the door plug were missing before the door plug moved. one more amazing detail here. the ntsb says the plane flew for two months without the door plug bolts meaning it was essentially a ticking time bomb with a fuse set last september at boeing's factory when the plane was still being built. boeing removed the door plug to do repair work on nearby rivets. this was the photo taken when the work was completed on the ntsb shows the door was put back but the bolts were not. here is what ntsb chair jennifer homendy said this morning. >> there is no way that this plane should've been delivered with four safety critical bolts missing. there's a problem in the process. we are digging in. we are not just digging into what's going on it going but we
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are also digging into faa's oversight of boeing as well. >> this only pours gas on the faa's quality control. it has two dozen inspectors at the 737 factory. no finding of blame or probable cause yet. that will come out in their final report. dave calhoun says whatever the final report says, boeing is accountable for what happened. he says an event like this must not happen on an airplane that leaves our factory. >> that's certainly true. this final report could take a year to get? so what more could we learn once that comes out and what else could they dig into? but also have they gotten to what they need to get to to make sure everyone is safe now? >> right now the planes have been inspected by airlines themselves after this 19 day emergency on grounding and data. the thing that will come out in
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the final report is who was responsible for putting the bolts back after the door plug was sticking out of the boeing factory back on september 1st, 2023. it's still sort of unclear and that is not in the preliminary report. was it the responsibility of boeing or was it the responsibility of spirit aerosystems, the contractor that builds the fuselage of the plane which was called back into do that work. >> thank you so much for that. let's go straight to capitol hill where arizona senator kiersten cinema is on the floor ahead of this border bill vote where it is expected to fail. >> to solve the nightmare my state has lived for over 40 years, so i got to work. my republican colleagues chose senator james langford, my partner on the homeland security border management subcommittee. we have worked together for over five years on strong border policy. senator langford has joined me at the arizona border to see the crisis firsthand. senator langford is an
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incredibly smart, ernest, conservative lawmaker. i know he was chosen by his conference because of his expertise and knowledge of border security policy and his reputation as a serious, conservative lawmaker who cares deeply about getting policy right. as we started the negotiation, senator langford laid out four policy pillars the republican conference needed to secure the border. number one, asylum. raise the asylum standard and close the loopholes. the cartels and economic migrants can no longer exploit the system. number two, safe third country. inshore people who live safely in another country don't backlog our system. number three, close the border. create a title 42 like authority to shut down the
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border when our system is backlogged and overwhelmed. number four, parole. stop the administration from giving migrants at the border a free pass into our country. over the course of nearly five months, we worked every single day, navigating intricate and difficult policy decisions to meet these four pillars. and when we hit bumps, i reminded everyone at the table about what was happening on the ground at my border. what real life looks like in arizona. because i knew that those four key pillars were necessary to secure the border and solve the crisis. >> you are hearing independent senator kiersten cinema there. one of the negotiators in this bipartisan compromise that we are expecting a key procedural vote on in the next hour where we are expecting it ultimately to fail, this coming after former president trump expressed his dismay about this
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bill and she is clearly very frustrated as she is speaking there on the hill ahead of the vote. we will be monitoring what she is saying and we will bring you the vote ahead as well. we will be right back.
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a seismic move, three of the biggest companies in sports broadcasting are teaming up to create a streaming support service. espn, fox, and warner bros. discovery, the parent company
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of cnn, are planning to launch their new platform in the fall. >> it doesn't have a name or price yet, but it does have practically every sporting event under the sun, the nfl, nba, nhl, nascar, fifa world cup, and more. joining us is andrew marchand. is it surprising that all of it would come together like this? >> a little bit. when you look at what's happening in the media space, we are seeing a lot of big companies try to partner, especially to compete with tech, but these are three of the giants in the sports industry, with espn, tnt, and fox. you mentioned the events that they had. it's a little bit of a surprise to see these three, because they are now enemies or rivals, but when you are trying to compete with tech, you are trying to figure out the
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future, and you work with the people that can help you get there if you team up. >> how is this going to change the viewer experience? >> you point out they do have a lot of great events, the baseball playoffs, the nba playoffs, monday night football, the super bowl. the issue is they don't have everything. for example, this sunday, the super bowl is on cvs. -- cbs. if you have this great sports arrangement, you still wouldn't get the super bowl. that is on broadcast tv. there are ways to get it. you can also get paramount plus if you want to get cbs that way, so that is one issue. another issue is march madness. it's on turner and warner bros. sports, but some of the games are on cbs. another example where if you have the service, you wouldn't get everything, which is really the problem for the sports fan trying to figure out how to see their games and the teams that they want. >> that's it, right?
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in an ironic way we are reverting back to traditional cable where you bundle a bunch of things together, so the question becomes, is this a win for the providers that put this deal together, for the fan? bob iger, the head of disney is saying that it's good for both. >> it is, maybe. we have to see where it goes. in the near term, i'm not sure if it's such a win for fans for two reasons. number one, we don't know the price yet. it's probably going to be in the $40-$50 range, because it will be mirrored after what these networks get in their cable deals, so the price point is going to be pretty high. it's going to be between what a regional sports network gets, which is in the $30 range for your local teams let's say you are in new york and want to watch the yankees, the local teams direct to consumer are about $30, and something like youtube is $72, so win, but the
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bigger question is where it goes from here. >> andrew marchand, thanks so much. we appreciate it. stay with cnn central. we are minutes away from a showdown on the sump -- senate floor. right now, you're watching arizona independent senator, kyrsten sinema, one of the chief negotiators of the bill give quite a speech on the floor. we will be right back.
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