>> closed captioning brought to you by meso book.com. tonight on 360, the white house leno to represent press conference intended to rebut allegations of mental decline which some say gave fresh evidence of it. also tonight, breaking news in the mar-a-lago documents case and new allegations of witness intimidation. later, what new video the police outside a new york

migrant shelter shows and how it plays into the case against the men charged in it. good evening, thank you for joining us, we begin tonight with the white house doing damage control on the damage from last night's damage control. donald trump tentatively, for now, capitalizing on it. physically on president biden's response to special counsel robert hers clearing him of mishandling classified documents, but describing him in his report as well-meaning, elderly man with poor memory. a press conference during which the president called egyptian president the leader of mexico, speaking tonight to members of the national rifle association, the former president mentioned it but did not harp on it. >> they're trying desperately to spin the biden document as disaster into, but, wasn't trump worse? trump was peanuts by comparison. 50 years, and he did a lot of it when he was at a very young age, he was mentally a little better than he is right now.

>> to be there, as we'll show you, the former president is also known for his mental lapses including about which leader goes with which country. first, president biden's threefold cleanup effort, the first part focusing on the legal front courtesy of ian sams from the white house counsel's office, today from the white house press briefing room. >> one, when the classified documents were found, it was self-reported. two, he took unprecedented action to get the special counsel what he needed. three, he didn't exert executive privilege over any contents of the report. the special counsel interviewed 150 witnesses. he sought and obtained 7 million pages of documents. he spent more than 3 1/2 million taxpayer dollars exploring every possible theory that he could, and what was the result? he reached the inevitable conclusion, based on the facts and the evidence, that there was no case here.

>> that's .1, accentuate the positive legal findings. he also handled .2 that observations about president biden memory and mental acuity had no place in the report. .3 refuting those observations fell to vice president harris, who echoed ian sams complaints. then she talked about what president biden was doing the day before deposition, during which the report documented several memory lapses. >> october 7th, israel experienced a horrific attack. and i will tell you, we got the calls, the president and myself, in the hours after that occurred. it was an intense moment for the commander in chief of the united states of america, and i was in almost every meeting with the president, in the hours and days that followed. countless hours with the secretary of defense, the secretary of state, the heads

of our intelligence community, and the president was in front of and on top of it all. so, the way that the president's demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts, and clearly, politically motivated. >> whether that's true or not, last night's press conference did not help especially in how it reopens the president to attacks on his age, including in a limited way tonight, from of all people, another elderly man who also have trouble with dates and places and leaders of countries. >> i was down there, and i watched our police and our firemen down at 711, at the world trade center right after it came down. >> to think we would be in world war ii, very quickly, if we are going to be relying on

this man. >> you really put a big investment in our country, we appreciate it very much, tim, apple, they never report the crowd on january 6. nikki haley, nikki haley, nikki haley, did you know they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything? deleted and destroyed all of its. because of lots of things like nikki haley is in charge of security, we offered her 10,000 people, soldiers, national guards, whatever they want, they turned it down. >> there's a man, victor or vaughn, did every buddy hear of him? one of the strongest leaders anywhere in the world. he's the leader of, right? he's the leader of turkey. >> cnn starts us off tonight from the white house, what is the mood inside the white house tonight? >> anderson, the white house is in damage control mode, a.i.d.s. spent the day escalating their efforts to try and discredit special counsel robert hers report, you heard that from the

highest level for vice president kamala harris, who charged that this was a politically motivated statement, that he was making as he brought into question some of the concerns about president biden's mental acuity. we know that president biden himself has fumed over this report, he did that publicly over 24 hours ago, we're told even behind-the-scenes that privately he was even more explicit, telling specifically when it came to the fact that her brought up his son, the fact that president biden couldn't remember when he had passed away, biden telling a group of democratic lawmakers in private, how would i forget that? it really highlights the frustration that the president is feeling at this moment as questions have been raised about his mental acuity. but what we have seen from the white house is that they had hoped that this report from the special counsel, that the top line coming out of it would be that the president was not facing any criminal charges, but those words from the special counsel describing biden as a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory has

simply thrust the concerns about the presidents age and memory into the spotlight. today, the white house was trying to argue that voters should pay attention to what the conclusion was made when it came to the criminality of the case and the president's willingness to cooperate. take a listen. >> how concerned is the president and the team, here, that the gratuitous comments are going to damage him, damage public perception of him? >> i think the public is smart and i think that they can see what's going on. i think they see a president to fully cooperated, i think they see a president to do the right thing and made sure everything got back. they see that this was a long investigation that ended without a case to be made. >> that is something of the white house and his allies are expected to stress in the coming days and weeks, but it is worth noting that voters have expressed serious concerns about the presidents age and ability to serve.

there is polling that reflects that, a very recent poll showing that three in four voters have concerns about the presidents mental and physical ability to serve in a second term. those are questions that the president will continue to face, especially as the 2024 campaign season heats up and as his issues about his age and memory remain front and center for the time being. >> i want to go back to cnn kristin homes in perrysburg, pennsylvania where the former president spoke tonight. we played a little bit of it a minute ago, with more to the former president have to say about president biden? >> donald trump did tonight what he always does, which was seek to blur the lines. in this case it was about robert hers report and the decision not to recommend charges for biden, essentially single because the case had been brought against him, former president trump, it was a two-tiered justice system. saying that he himself had cooperated far more than biden, something that we obviously know not to be true. the one thing we didn't hear were attacks on biden's age,

while similarly republicans, democrats, even the president himself have really highlighted this portion of robert hers report talking about how he is an elderly man with a poor memory, donald trump hasn't brought that up almost at all. this is a fine line that he has to walk. he is 77, biden it is 81, and he has many older supporters as well as many older donors, and i've told in the past that senior advisers say he doesn't want to touch on biden's age, particularly because of that. instead they want to separate this idea that biden is not mentally fit, and from has said it's not related to his age, but it is quite notable when you're hearing so many people, even the president himself, addressing these comments, that trump himself has not, particularly when you know that trump is one to consistently lob insults at biden and that all of his political foes. instead, we are seeing that come from his campaign, we are seeing it come from his allies, all of them seizing on the

words in the report, but trump himself still not touching anderson. >> what did he talk about? >> it was a speech for the nra and it was tailored completely to that, one of the things we've been reporting on is that donald trump has now started to tailor his speech is based on who he's talking to. he's never going to have a presidential pettit, but he's going to try to focus on certain groups, most of this speech was about guns, it was about the second amendment, it was about bashing the media, it was about making sure that no one was going to take away anyone's guns here, and really a big focus on if he was re- elected to the white house, how he would seek to protect the second amendment. >> thanks very much. breaking news in the former president's documents case, the one unlike with president biden and former vice president mike pence led to felony charges. judges and prosecutors joining us with late details, what do we know about the nature of

these threats? >> the special counsel is saying that these witnesses need to be protected, their names, their identities need to be protected because there have been a number of threats, from the beginning of this case. everyone from the judge herself, judge cannon, the judge who approved the search warrant, the fbi agents who conducted the search of mar-a- lago, everyone has received threats according to the special counsel's office, and they also cite that one prospective witness, who could be used in this trial, was threatened on social media, and that that is now under investigation by the u.s. attorney's office in florida. that's the concern that you're hearing from the special counsel. the trump team has been pushing back on this, they say that there is no reason to keep the identities of these witnesses secret, that this should be made public, but again, the special counsel emphasizes that

since the beginning of this case, pretty much everybody has been receiving threats including people who are associated with some of the co- defendants, people associated with the other witnesses, the other co-defendants, that they have been receiving threats family because they provided information to the fbi peer >> what is jack smith asking to have done? >> he's asking for all of this to be conducted, to be sealed, and this has been a fight has been happening, anderson, since january. this has been going on behind the scenes. all of it in secret, because the judge has been hearing from donald trump's legal team that this does not need to be held secret. one of the things that we saw in, that we've been able to glean from the court filings is that we know some of the important witnesses that they have in mind. one of them is a department of energy lawyer who wrote a memo

describing why donald trump's security clearance was canceled after he left the presidency. that person is also somebody who the justice department says the identity needs to be protected, because of the persistent threats that exist around this case. >> we want to get perspective from conservative lawyer germs conway, a contributor to the atlantic and serves on the board of visitors of the federal society. what's your reaction to concerns about when this harassment in the mar-a-lago documents case? is there something more the judge should be doing? >> obviously, this is a situation where anything involving donald trump, you run the risk of witness intimidation. remember, the jean carol case which was a civil case, not a federal racketeering criminal case, and the judge felt compelled to have an anonymous jury, and that's just something you never see, even in most criminal cases with violent offenders. that's why, it is very, very

disturbing that this judge does not appear, at least in the eyes of the special counsel, to be taking into account the possible threats to witnesses, that they could be intimidated, they could be harmed. we've seen donald trump in the past stir of anger and stir up people to do things that they shouldn't do, in an effort to help him. so, i do share the concerns that people are expressing about what the judge is doing here, and i might add that this is not the first unusual or bizarre thing that the judge in florida, judge cannon, has done. she was reversed by the u.s. court of appeals for the 11th circuit in absolutely stunning and brutal fashion twice, once for trying to stop of the justice department investigation with a stay, and another by appointing a special master when she had no authority to do so, and trying to control the government's investigation. it's not common for courts of

appeals to get rid of district judges and to reassign them from cases, but when a judge makes continual errors and is not, in one direction, and errors are extreme, it's possible that maybe if she doesn't turn herself around, here, the special counsel can take this issue to the court of appeals and maybe the court of appeals can get this case in front of a better judge. >> you think she could be removed from the case? >> i've seen it. i don't know, i've heard in the 11th circuit there's a three strikes rule, i've seen it happen. i clerked on the u.s. court of appeals in new york and i saw it happen when i clerked there and i've seen it happen from time to time. it's an unusual thing but this is an unusual case. and the egregious nests of the errors that she has made in the past certainly weighs in favor of strongly considering that. >> what's your reaction to former president saying we played the clip earlier, president biden's handling of

documents was worse than his, and that the doj is selectively prosecuting him? >> i mean, it's just another example, yeah. the side, it's another example of the pathological lying that donald trump has become famous for. it is absolutely absurd. donald trump took these documents and when he was asked for them back multiple times he refused to give them back, he lied to the people, he had his lawyers lied to the people who were seeking the documents, he then tried to move them around, then he tried to destroy the videotapes that would show that he had moved the documents around to hide them from the fbi, the fbi had to ultimately execute a search warrant, and this is all in contrast, this is all in contrast to what president biden did, was he notified the government, he gave the documents back, he didn't try to engage in litigation delaying tactics, to block the government from

getting information, he cooperated with the government, and that just shows you the difference. donald trump engaged, donald trump, donald trump just returned the documents when they were first pointed out that we think you have some documents and he just said here, come to mar-a-lago and turn them all up, we wouldn't be talking about any of this right now. we would not, he would not be facing dozens of counts in the southern district of florida. >> i wonder what your take on the language in the special counsel's report is about president biden's age and memory, you heard vice president kamala harris saying it was political on the part of the prosecutor. >> i understand why president biden is offended, and i understand why the white house is trying to do damage control, but i have to say, the democrats are particularly good at freaking out on a moments notice and i think the press is also, with no offense to you, the press gets on a pack hunt,

and there is this hysteria that's happened over the last couple days. i don't think that what i saw in that report was particularly disturbing. certainly i care about mental condition of presidents, and their ability to understand things, but i remember ronald reagan, the used to say that about him, and it was the 1984 debate where he got lost on highway 1 at the end of the debate, and people started questioning his ability. but i don't see any of that here, in the public domain that he's unable to carry out his duties, and i would add that when you're writing a report, i don't like all these attacks on mr. herr, they may be valid but i don't like to presume a prosecutor is acting in bad faith, because i was never a prosecutor and i wasn't a criminal defense lawyer, but i used to write reports for

clients as a result of internal corporate investigations. and when you reach a conclusion and you're trying, you reach a conclusion probably because of two or three principal reasons, there's a tendency among us lawyers to add the other 50 reasons. just in case, to basically bolster our conclusion, to make clear to everybody we did a lot of work, and also, we don't want to be faulted if somebody said, why did you, you asked a lot of questions about that, why didn't you write that up? it could very well be that he was just being a nerdy lawyer inserting all that stuff. maybe he should not have done it, maybe he should have phrased it differently. i find it hard to second-guess that. in any event, the notion that somehow, that joe biden is getting trashed on for forgetting a few things, whatever they are, you showed that clip of donald trump. you could do a five hour, a weekend special on all the clips of donald trump saying

absurd and embarrassing and inaccurate things. i once did a twitter feed, twitter thread of 25 or 30 things that he said, he got wrong like kansas city being in kansas instead of missouri. and on top of that, even if donald trump were perfectly, were the stable genius that he says he was and had a perfect memory and never forgot, the man is a basket case. anyway. because he has two major personality traits disorders, if you look at the dsm-v, the diagnostic manual for mental disorders, and you go to antisocial personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder, he checks every single box. that's what makes him unfit, not the fact that he makes verbal slips. >> appreciate it, thank you, coming up next, three white house veterans on how this white house is handling the herr report and their larger questions about the president's age, plus john miller on new

footage released in new york of a violent police conversation is drawing national attention in the border debate.

we talked before the break about what went into special counsel robert herr's decision

to clear biden in mishandling classified documents and the propriety or lack of it inputting observations about the presidents cognitive state into his report. now the effect it may have on the presidents arrays when compounded by last night's press conference, three guests have also been white houses, kate bedingfield president biden, van jones with president obama, all three are cnn political commentators. paul earlier today i heard you say i'm a biden supporter, i slept like a baby last night and i woke up every two hours and wet the bed. this is terrible for democrats and every anybody with a functioning brain. the record, my kids don't wake up every two hours, they just in their diaper, but what concerns you the most? >> that this, this is a pre- existing narrative. every politician has one. with president obama they worried he was to elite, with president bush they were he was too dumb, president clinton, he had no flaws. this goes right to that. what do you do?

i think you can't unring a bell, but you can sound an alarm. you've got to lean into it. yeah, i'm old, we're both older, me and mr. trump, the question is who is wiser, and who is a threat to all the things that you care about and and go through it. trump is a threat to social security, medicare, healthcare, childcare, to your abortion rights, to our democracy. get out in front of it, lean into it, and change the subject and put the other guy on trial. that's the way to handle these things. >> that clearly the president was personally offended, was angry about what was in that report, and expressed that. do you think that was effective? >> first, i'd note that all three of the presidents that paul just mentioned, won re- election, so there's that. but, i think what joe biden needed to do last night was to actually come out and show anger. i know there's been discussion about was he too hot, did he seem like he was too much on a

hairtrigger, but i think coming out, first of all, talking about his son and those incredibly personal terms and pushing back on the press narrative and saying here's what i'm doing as president, and then he gave a long answer about what he's doing in gaza, i know everybody wants to focus on, he had a slip of the tongue and said mexico instead of egypt, but, he showed that he was in control. i think for him to come out last night, and take it on directly was a good thing. where i agree with paul is, i think that the campaign, the biden campaign has to move the narrative to fertile ground. this election, is it going to be a factor, will be part of the narrative? it is, voters are going to look at his age. but, there are other factors in this election, including who's going to fight for your right to have an abortion, is going to make sure that your vote counts, who believes that we should have a free and fair democracy in this country? and donald trump, you've got

somebody who's facing 91 felony indictment counts, and who can't get through the day without telling a lie. there's a really good contrast, here, for president biden in the biden campaign to make. they need to be forceful about it. >> evincing for a while the best thing for biden to do this election cycle is to stay hidden, that's not the strategy last night, and there's a lot of folks who say he needs to get out there more. where do you now see it? >> i think people are worried now. it feels like yesterday a big chunk of the iceberg fell off. in that you need this guy to be able to debate donald trump at some point, you him to be able to do certain things, and he just didn't look good yesterday, he just didn't look good. i think that worries people. i agree with my colleagues, the alternative is so much worse, and i do think that people are

starting to shift their brain, now, into more of a parliamentary system. we're just voting for the right party regardless of the person. because of the end of the day that's kind of how american politics is starting to function. you pick the party, neither side can be that happy about the person. but, i love joe biden, and i got a chance to work for the guy, he picked me out of the puppy pile. early in my career. i hate to see him going through this. i hate to see them being disrespected by reporters, i hate to see him trying to defend himself in the way that he was. it was heartbreaking. i don't think yesterday was good. i think people should be speaking up for joe biden. i think people should be speaking up for the good he's done for the country. the labor unions are stronger than ever because of joe biden, you got a bunch of people creating jobs in red states and clean energy because of joe biden. joe biden may not be able to speak for himself the way that he used to, but we should be speaking up for what he's done, and if you don't see speak

people speaking up for him that's going to be the problem. >> paul, cornish said something last night that i thought was interesting. her take was different which was, the way people consume information increasingly, particularly younger people, it's all in little bites and sound bites on social media and stuff. and the split screen of reporters trying to yap over each other to get their most important question in with the split screen of that and president biden just looking at them, the reporters frankly, it wasn't a pretty picture on what the reporters were doing. i appreciate what my colleagues do, but, i wouldn't want to have been one of them in a split screen at that moment. and she was raising the point that may be the way and the president's comments on gaza might resonate with people who want to hear that side, more so than we think because we're thinking, we're parsing every

word. >> she is such a pro, she conducts herself with such dignity. if i can reveal a trade secret, in the 1982 campaign when clinton was besieged with allegations of scandal, i took away the multiple boxes that everybody can plug their microphone into so that you had to cluster of microphones, so he looked like he was besieged to make it look worse for the press, and better for clinton. i thought it was perfectly there. when i want journalists to do is commit journalism. i hate this, when trump says the moon is made of green cheese, joe says is a giant rock and we say, candidates clash on lunar landscape. let's get a buzz on the show, is it cheese or is it rock? i've talked to national security people, nonpartisan, who worked for both trump and biden, and they all say the same thing, they say trump is crazy, and he's dangerous. biden is fine. he's not right about everything, but he's totally focused, he's very sharp, and

the proof is in the performance. i think journalists, member myles taylor, the chief of staff and homeland security wrote an anonymous piece saying trump is dangerous. you're not hearing any of that from biden's aides, because it's not happening. he's perfectly sharp, he's up to the job. >> and out of a 30, 40 minute sitdown interview with president biden about grief, sitting two feet from him across the table, and he was, he was very good. people can listen to the podcasts in that format, he was incredibly heartfelt, and intense, and got across exactly what he wanted to say. i don't know, is there, do you have concerns about the formats he's being put in? >> i think he's got to be out there more. i think the more people hear from him, the more they see some of the side that paul was talking about, they see the focus on the job, they

certainly see the empathy, so i think he's got to be out there more, when you're president of the united states it's not as easy to get out of the white house and from behind the desk as it is when you're a candidate, because you're responsible for running the country, but he needs to get out of the white house, the across the country, needs to be meeting with people and i think again, because when people see him, they get that sense, you have no less partisan than kevin mccarthy who would walk out of meetings with president biden, and would tell reporters he was sharp and on top of it. he would do the big mega talking points he's got to do, but when he was being honest about his engagements he was saying he was sharp. i think people need to see him, they need to flip the dynamic, and they can do that by getting joe biden out and letting people see him on display. >> thanks so much, just ahead, new details on last night's shooting at times square, new video tonight of the attack against new york police to permit officers near a migrant

shelter just a block away from the shooting.

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>> closed captioning brought to you by meso book.com. tonight law enforcement sources tell cnn that a migrant suspected of shooting last night is now in custody. 15-year-old allegedly shot at tourists, fired multiple times that an officer during a chase. this comes after officials released new video of a nearby attack on two police officers outside a migrant shelter last month. the man in a yellow jacket is the one seven people charged in

the assault, joined now by cnn john miller. what do we know about the shooting? >> what we've learned is this is a 10th grader, a 15-year-old boy staying in a migrant shelter in midtown. he was going to steal a jacket allegedly from this store when the store detective stopped him and said, do you have a receipt for that. she took the bag away from him, and he took three steps, fished out that gun and fires at the store detective. instead hitting a tourist from brazil. then he was connected to one other shooting in midtown, manhattan, and another gunpoint robbery in the bronx through ballistic and other evidence, and they captured him late today in yonkers, new york. >> did they know where he got the gun? >> they did not recover again, they still have searches to do but the way that they connected those incidents was using ballistic tests on the shell casings were covered that matched the shootings. they know he's a 15-year-old kid with a 45 and he's not

afraid to use its. >> he's been using it around town, that's crazy. what about the video released by the manhattan d.a. on the attack of the two police officers, what more do we know about that? >> the new video is not just a different high shot from another security camera, but also the body camera video that puts you right in the incident. in one instance, it's answer a lot of questions because you're right there in the middle of the violence. in another instance it stirred some controversy among critics who say well, police said they were blocking the sidewalk, they were disorderly, the video doesn't show that. what police sources tell me is that this is the times square detail, these are the cops that are there all the time, they know the conditions and the players, and they were approached by people and this is not on the video or recorded any record because it wouldn't be, who said those guys are harassing women who are walking by, yelling out stuff, they're in the way, can somebody do

something? this is a routine where they sweep them off to move along instead of hanging out in that spot. the guy in the yellow coat is the guy who said i'm not going, basically, and that would have been something that could have ended up in court whether that was a lawful encounter or not, but once he starts fighting with the police and the others jump on, that train has left the station, that's assault on a police officer. >> how prepared are u.s. voters for the emergence of deep fake videos? a cnn investigation looks into it. >> they said they never intended to adopt michael, they've got some explain to do. >> blindsided, tomorrow it is a clock on cnn.

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the fcc has outlawed to depict robocalls using a generated voices. this comes is the weeks after a deep fake call to new hampshire primary voters impersonated president biden's voice. in chicago, a similar mystery, a deep fake video targeted candidate who narrowly lost a runoff. tony o'sullivan investigates. >> some countries they do political assassinations, here we do character assassinations. >> reporter: character assassination of a new kind, like this. >> people accuse a cop of being bad if they kill one person that was running away. in my day, cops would kill 17 or 18 civilians in their

career. and nobody would bat an eye. remake when democrat paul valles ran in a contentious race last year for chicago mayor, he faced an unprecedented attack, a deep fake created using artificial intelligence. >> we need to stop defunding the police and start refunding them. >> you've never actually heard. >> i'm going to play it for you. >> no, no. it will only aggravate me. >> okay. this deep fake audio of you played into this idea that you weren't democrat enough for the democratic party, that you are to pro-police, which was a line of attack against you. >> clearly, chicago is a very, very blue city, they were trying to portray me as some far hard right conservative republican. being able to throw mud against the wall like that, puts you in a position where you have to deny it or damage has still been done, and there's some

damage that's not repairable. it's clear based on the result tonight that the city is deeply divided. >> reporter: he lost the election by four points, he says he doesn't know the full effect of the deep fake cat on the race. >> reporter: the account that shared the view was chicago lakefront news. doesn't exist. it was very clearly set up for the purpose to character assassinate me. and this was a close race. >> a really close race. >> reporter: digital forensics expert expert says aig fakes are no longer a hypothetical problem, but an actual threat to elections. >> reporter: 17 or 18 civilians in their career, and nobody would bat an eye. >> i make a lot of fakes and i can do that in about five minutes. almost anybody. here's why i think audio alone is in some ways a bigger threat. the most compelling deep fakes that i've seen are these so- called hot mic deep fakes, you don't see their mouths moving, but you hear the voice and is visceral, and it sounds like

your eavesdropping on them, and i think those are really powerful. >> reporter: a cnn analysis shows the u.s. isn't prepared to respond effectively. we asked election officials in all 50 states how they're preparing for deep fakes. 33 responded but less than half of those cited specific actions to handle a.i. threats. >> i don't think we're ready. we are still struggling with the last 10 years of the nonsense that has been social media and the lies and conspiracies that have propagated. it's hard to look at that and say, the injection of jet fuel into that is not going to have any impact, of course it will. >> reporter: francisco aguilera, the head of election for nevada says he's working out how to respond. >> you mentioned on the panel that federal official asked you about what are you doing about a.i.? and you said, what are you guys doing? >> exactly. again, you look at our budget at the state of nevada, and you see what constraints we have.

they have access to significant resources that we don't have. right now we're having to say this is what we need, this is what we want, this is where we feel vulnerable. i don't think we've been through a full election cycle where it's truly existed. so we are in pioneering times right now. >> i talked to a lot of liberals, and there is at times a bit of smugness, there. which says, it's the trump supporters who fall for misinformation. not us. >> we're also susceptible to this. and we all do when i say we all do it, i mean, within every group there are people who will do it, there are people who will cross that line. >> a lot of americans might think the risk of a.i. and this sort of stuff it's in the future. it's being overblown. >> the future is now. the future is here. i won't be the first and i won't be the last. >> it's so incredible and fascinating. the fcc, they say the calls are

illegal, is there coordinated to plan on dealing with this at a federal level? >> coordinated might be a strong word. in fact, a senior government official had told our colleague, when it comes to disinformation and deep fakes for this election, the federal government we're all tied up in knots. is how they said. there is no debate that everybody views this as a threat, and just before the holidays in december, we learned that the white house held a simulation, a wargame, what would top intelligence and officials do, and specifically the scenario was, if chinese operatives created a fake a.i. generated video showing a senate candidate burning ballots. what would they do if that emerged on the eve of the election or during an election? and they toiled with her for two hours and they eventually decided that they would leave the communication for that to come from local and state election officials, because frankly they're trusted more than the federal government. but then you talk to local and

state officials and they say, wait a minute. with the resources, so everybody is aware that this is a big problem, but they're scrambling, and time is running out. >> thanks so much. if that is the real o'sullivan. sunday is one of the biggest event in sports and as most of the country gears up to watch the san francisco 49ers and the chiefs take the field, the rest are wanting to spot taylor swift in the stands.

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sunday is the big day, the kansas city chiefs face the san francisco 49ers in the super bowl. taylor swift is expected to be there cheering on her boyfriend, i admittedly do not know much about football so i have harry with me to break it all down. embarrass me. >> i don't want to embarrass you, i want you to learn alongside the audience. i want to teach you. let's start with what i think is a non-necessary football question. how much do you think a 30 second ad costs for the super bowl? it is $7 million? >> it is $7 million. we don't even have to put the screen up. that is up from just $2,000,000.20 years ago, so the prices have gone bay up. they're not going to be necessarily reaching anderson cooper. the other big story of the game as you pointed out, was travis

kelce and taylor swift. we are big swift fans, we love taylor swift but there has been all this controversy. what percentage of nfl fans believe that the swift/tran14 relationship has been good for the national football league? is it 31% 51%, or 71%? >> i am guessing these are football fans so they would say a, 31%. up at you it is a lower number. >> no, it is 71%. isn't that great? >> even more love for tailors of. >> there is all this and i taylor swift stuff but most of that is just on twitter, most nfl fans love taylor swift. >> it for her. >> now we are going to get a little hard. the 49ers have a chance to win on sunday, it will be their sixth super bowl win. that will tie them for the most super bowl wins with which two franchises? and we have some logos for you. if you can take a look. i know it is very difficult for

you. >> i know the one on the right is the new england patriots. >> that is good. >> the sparkling diamonds? >> the sparkling diamonds, actually, that is the name of my flag football team. what motto is that? what insignia is that? >> what you even call it? >> that is actually the steelers. it is the pittsburgh steelers picked >> that is the pittsburgh steelers logo? >> i know, it is very shocking for you. given that you know so much about the nfl -- >> is that a new logo? >> no, that has been there logo forever. >> you could have fooled me. >> since you know so much about football, we have got to ask you, who do you think is going to win on sunday? the juice or the 49ers? >> i am glad you said who the teams were again. i forgot it for when i said it just a minute ago. i just don't get it.

i am going for taylor swift's boyfriends team. >> which team is that? >> kansas city chiefs. i am voting for the kansas city chiefs. i want her to be happy. >> thanks, we will be right back.