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they stepped up and they did their job. i want to say thank you for that. >> the child that came to the church with the woman was shot. what happened behind closed doors in the trump and mar-a- lago documents case. super bowl sunday might be the only time you want to watch commercials. which ones were big with the audience? we are following the stories and many more coming in on cnn news central. a daring rescue, a devastating air assault and a growing disconnect between two critical allies. the latest of the is really
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operation in gaza. israel defense forces rescued hostages captured by hamas in a complicated mission that involved a building right and core needed airstrikes. with those two saved lives of dozens of palestinian deaths. according to the gaza administration of health. we do have disturbing video from the aftermath. medics in a hospital trying to resuscitate a child and a woman sobbing holding the body of a child and this could be a glimpse of what a broader offensive could look like. hundreds of thousands of palestinians are trapped there and that is why the u.s. and other allies have been urging israel not to advance and now president biden is increasingly frustrated with prime minister not not hugh -- prime minister benjamin netanyahu. what have we learned about this hostage rescue?
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>> reporter: this was a daring overnight raid carried out by israel special forces and it had been about a month in the planning. it was carried out at about 1:49 am according to the israeli military. they were going off of intelligence gathered by its internal security service that these two hostages, a 70-year- old were on the second floor. they were able to get in there and grab the hostages and escape from hamas fighters. about one minute later is when the israeli air force began to bombard the area striking hamas operations. what we are seeing today is the aftermath of the strikes telling not only hamas fighters
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but also civilians including women and children killed and injured in these bombardments. 94 people were killed according to the palestinian ministry of health. we are seeing the scenes there of children -- some of them shaking from the bombardments and others street with the blood. people are mourning the loss of loved ones at the hospital. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says that miller military pressure is to rescue these hostages but this is the only the second time that hostages will have been rescued. >> the u.s. wants israel to ensure the safety of these million plus civilians in rafah but, is that even feasible when we are talking about the kind of tactics that we have seen carried out here? >> reporter: it is important to get a scale of or a sense of the scale of the problem.
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1.4 million people crammed into an area where there are normal normally 300,000 residents and it has become a last refuge for displaced palestinians because that is where so much of the humanitarian aid is coming in. it was designated a semi safe zone by the military and the israeli military says they are developing a plan to evacuate hundreds of thousands of people from that city but so far we have not heard details of what that plan would look like. then the question is, where would they go? further north there is rampant devastation and destruction. humanitarian aid is more scarce than it is in rafah. the israeli prime minister and been -- amid concern from the united states is doubling down on going into rafah and saying hamas is embedding with civilians in that city. >> american officials are warning it could be a disaster.
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jeremy, from tel aviv, thank you for that report. alex. now to the white house. mj has no reporting that biden has become increasingly frustrated with the israeli prime minister and the brutality of operations in gaza. this was before this call that he had yesterday with prime minister netanyahu. what are you hearing now about the thinking of president biden. >> there is a sense that the president is making it known that prime minister netanyahu is not heeding his own advice when it comes to de-escalating the military operation in gaza and alleviating the humanitarian crisis to make sure people there are getting the help that they need. tensions have definitely intensified further as israel has made clear there will be a
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ground incursion into rafah. they feel like the 1.3 million people in rafah simply have nowhere to go and there is a lot of skepticism right now among u.s. officials as to the idea of evacuating all of this people out of that area before the ground incursion can occur. it is questionable on if this is even possible to do. many people that fled their can be safely moved out of the area and we know that the president told the prime minister direct after that military operations should not proceed before those people could be safely moved out of the way. as for the hostage rescue operation that you were talking about we are learning that the biden administration does have deep concerns about this idea that two people were successfully rescued but as a part of that operation dozens of
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palestinians were killed. that ray does something that is a point of tension that we could see a rep into the public even more. u.s. officials see it as incredibly important to continue working on the hostage rescue operations but seeing a lot of concern and worry about the civilian death toll that continues to mount in gaza. >> we will likely hear that expressed by the president today. he is hosting the king of jordan. mj lee, thank you. let's bring in retired cia intelligence officer --. can you explain, as you understand that, why the idf would have used airstrikes in conjunction with this operation? >> i can tell you what the intent is and then compared to what we are seeing. what the
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execution looks like and the consequences of that. the intent is to isolate where the hostage rescue, which is a very precise operation, there will be intense gunfire as described to try to rescue hostages. and then as there is an exfiltration with the idf special operators, they will be thrown in two vehicles or duct into helicopters so they will attempt to a speedy retreat from the area. then you want to isolate that. anybody who gets anxious and one to return fire and pursue, they will be bly blocked by the airstrikes. the consequence is you have hamas fighters better embedded with palestinians so despite the best efforts there will be collateral damage as described. >> when you look at this and
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the possibility or the expectation, as you see benjamin netanyahu pulling for a full offensive, is that something that israel can carry out without devastating effect on palestinian civilians? >> well, it is hard for us to say yes or no. you can see the images and the type of operation that has taken place. over the course of time since october 7 the idf has acquired skills and after action reviews. they understand how to do this well and they also have some significant scar tissue. they want to try to avoid certain things. going forward, you would hope that there would be a different type of outcome. i am not optimistic that is the case based on what we see right now. which is a mass of humanity jammed into a small area. and then there is very little
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exit, if you will. there is little opportunity for them to exit further onto egypt. egypt is just not letting that happen. the short answer is, i anticipate there will be similar type of disruption. >> in israel, looking at this rescue, this is something that was said all along for months during this offensive that this reinforces why it is so important to have this continued military pressure to get these hostages. do you agree with that assessment? >> we have two souls that are now back with families that are free so that is good news. clearly there is a downside to do that to that. there is collateral damage and others have been killed as a result of the operation. clearly there needs to be pressure and israel has demonstrated an ability with great intelligence and some very precise operations to go
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extract hostages. they can do that. is based on intelligence and clarity of the picture that you can put together. these kinds of operations can continue to take place and should if there is a risk reward. to encourage people to get hostages back. those are decisions that are being made. the short answer is do this as best you can but you might want to alter some of the tactics you have been using to try to secure the area and decrease the risk associated to the idf. >> there seems to be israel is taking this military solution approach as they see it. when it comes to a political solution, maybe being more reticent to take that approach yet as they are trying to zero in on hamas leadership.
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is that appropriate as they are using these two methods? or not using them together, i should say? >> these two are completely intertwined. you apply military force to achieve political objectives like you would any other power. so, these two are completely connected and the military operation is a derivative of what you are trying to achieve politically. what you are trying to achieve politically as a gaza that is not hostile and does not have as its core principle the destruction of the state. this does not have a short-term horizon. increasingly, as we look at it, there is so many potential solutions. including a two state solution. political objectives need to be
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-- so some type of agreed to secession of hostilities so that you can have a look at the hostages and see what the possible outcome looks like there. at the same time, support will be able to come in and there could be discussions about different types of governments to follow can take place and those are the things that have to be put in place then you can make a determination as to what you want to do militarily. right now with the world sees is the inverse effect. it is the military objective and the political objectives will cascade from that. political drive with the military solution. >> general marks, thank you for your insight. we appreciate that. >> thank you. former president trump's needle bashing comments are triggering international
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backlash. a steady stream of leaders around the world or something off after the republican front runner had this to say. >> one of the presidents of the big country stood up and said, "if we don't pay him we are attacked by russia, will you protect us?" i said, you didn't pay. you were delinquent. and he said, let's say that would happen and they said, i would not protect you. i would encourage them to do whatever they want. >> we have the author of the new book "return of great powers ." you, for being with us jeff. we have heard trump complained that nato allies are not devoting enough of their gdp to their defense budget that what we just heard, encouraging russia to attack allies, that is different. >> let's remember that the words of a commander in chief matter because these are not
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just words on paper. they are about credibility. do allies and adversaries believe that the u.s. will follow through on that mutual defense agreement? i emphasize the word mutual. the u.s. defending nato and nato defending --. those words matter and it is how vladimir putin perceives whether trump would indeed follow through. and it is not the first time he has raised that question. in 2018 his own advisors told me that he tried to pull the u.s. out of nato at the 2018 nato summit. he's questioned if he would defend nato allies. this has been a consistent undermining of the alliance and that matters to our allies. >> these allies watch americans very closely. there is uncertainty over who will be -- but to what extent do you think nato allies are
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going to circle the wagons. >> they take it extremely seriously. i have spoken with multiple officials and i know you have as well. ambassadors and heads of state. they take a change that trump would represent and they view it as -- they don't view it as a fantasy but existential. they believe that they need the united states to help defend them. the reason you have officials like the president said is we need to find our own way to defend ourselves because they no longer trust that defense would be true and real under a second trump term. they would be saying we have got to find a new way because we are not sure the u.s. will follow this. >> we may have to fend for ourselves. you, jim. up next a critical hearing in a florida court. trump is attending a closed hearing in a case where he is
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we have evan pettus with this story outside of the courthouse in fort pierce, florida. evan, any possibility we will get a ruling on this issue today? >> reporter: we don't anticipate a ruling. we expect but the former president will be in there for another hour. what is at issue is classified documents. this is a case about alleged mishandling of classified documents. documents that were retrieved by the fbi from mar-a-lago in 2022. in some cases the government is arguing that the documents are so sensitive that the former president and his codefendants should not be able to see the documents and they have summaries that have been prepared on some of those
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documents and that is something that the trump team should not be and that if the documents are being used at trial or are relevant to his defense that he should have full access. the courthouse behind me has a special room that is made to view and hold classified documents and that is where they have been the last few hours. they expect this hearing will wrap up shortly after which the special counsel, the government will have their turn to make their argument to the judge to make sure that these restrictions in place remain in place during the upcoming trial. >> all right evan, thank you for that report from florida. former federal prosecutor renato mari anee is here to walk us through this. prosecutors in the intelligence agencies do not want them to access materials. what factors are the judge
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going to be looking at and weighing when deciding here? >> great question alex. the judge is going to be balancing trump's need for certain documents to advance his defense arguments and theories with the national security interest and potential downside that could come with disclosure and additional dissemination of classified information on behalf of the united states. i will say that the balance is in favor of the government and the -- is to be able to get into the weeds and suss out what does the difference really need. what documents go to their arguments? it is essentially a way to balance due process.
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>> now, there are so many questions about the timing of this case. how will this impact the timing of this case? >> i have always thought that it is unlikely that this case can proceed before the election. nonetheless, judge cannon is taking it slow with a deliberate approach. she has appeared to be in no hurry to move it forward quickly and i think the presence of classified documents is part of the case. it really gives the defense a lot of opportunities to introduce delay. as a practical matter i just don't see this going to trial anytime soon. >> there is supposed to be a hearing on march 1 at which point judge cannon will decide if the case can move forward.
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if the trump team priority is to delay, how do you think they can achieve that goal between now, mid february, and the beginning of march date? >> another good question. what they will do as they will try to make increasing demands to see, view, obtain classified materials that claim are absolutely necessary for their defense and really what they are going to do is make increasingly unreasonable demands to create a situation where the united states government feels compelled to litigate the issue and have potentially an interrogatory appeal that would delay the case. that is the sort of thing that would essentially put the entire case --.
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>> now jack smith is trying to fight efforts to delay this further. what can he do? >> it is challenging because what he is already trying to do is to make it clear to the judge that he believes the defendant is trying to delay. he has been trying to go out of his way to get things over to the defense quickly and to make accommodations to the defense. ultimately, however, the ball is really and the advantage is really on the defense side of things when it comes to introducing delay and requesting documents. >> lots to shake out. thank you for your thoughts today renato mariotti. coming up, new details about the shooting at joel osteen's mega church including words written on the weapon. and, defense secretary lloyd
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two off-duty officers engaged with the woman and killed her. the child was critically injured in the gunfire. we are on the scene in houston. ed, i understand we just learned the identity of this but shooter. what else do we know? >> reporter: search warrant documents filed in montgomery identify the shooter here at the lakewood church is dirty six-year-old genesee moreno. according to court documents the woman was shot by two off- duty officers working security at the church after she pointed her weapon. the documents also detail new information that we have not yet heard including that she had arrived here, as
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we reported, with a child and was carrying a yellow rope that is consistent with the detonation cord for an explosive device as well as substances that are consistent with explosive devices. he also she also said that she had a bomb. investigators have said they have not found evidence that is the case but that is one of the reasons that investigators winter her home in the city of conroe. police have been searching her home overnight and we are learning more details about that. investigators say they are looking for any kind of information that might explain what exactly she was doing or if she was really intending on creating some sort of explosive device. it was terrifying moments just before 2:00 yesterday afternoon. moments before the spanish language service was supposed to begin.
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we do not know if the child that was with her -- if she is the mother of the child or who the child might be. we are told the child is in critical condition and there is another gentleman that was wounded in all of this who is expected to survive. very treacherous moments here as the shooting unfolded. we have seen videos of the shooting scene and there is extensive gunfire over quite some time. investigators in houston are expected to hold a press briefing in about one hour so we expect more details to come as we get a sense of where this investigation continues to move. >> we know you will keep us posted on details we will get back to you. ed, thank you. still ahead, defense secretary lloyd austin is back in the hospital. what we are learning about his condition up next.
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defense secretary lloyd austin has returned to the hospital. there is symptoms suggesting an emergent bladder issue. he was admitted to the critical care unit at walter reed medical center. it is not clear when he will be released. in the meantime he has transfer duties to kathleen hicks. last month he came under heavy criticism for failing to notify the white house and the public about an unexpected hospitalization after hit complications from an initial surgery for prostate cancer in december.
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the pentagon will be holding a briefing where we expect to learn more about his condition. now i am joined by a urologist at orlando health. maybe you can help us understand this a little bit. it sounds like they are saying that this is suggestive of something. maybe they don't have a full grip on what is happening here but, an emergent bladder issue and as a result he is in critical care. what could this be? >> when we actually think about what could be going on we need to take a look back and ask what happens during a prostatectomy. he had his surgery on december 22 they take the prostate out and reconnect the bladder with the rest of the urethra. fast forward today to this emergent bladder issue it could be a few things. it could be he is not able to
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urinate so where he was put back together it was done too tight or maybe he was put back together and maybe there is a leak that is causing fluid to going go around the pelvis area . he had a similar issue in january where he had some fluid around the belly. we don't know the details about that and how he was treated. i can just assume it has something to do with the aligning channel after the surgery. >> what is the process for ascertaining exactly what is going on and what might the treatment like? >> when we see a patient with a similar condition come to the hospital, we will get some imaging and lab work. we want to assess what is happening and on imaging we might be able to see the area that the surgery was done and then there could be fluid around that space. we know when he was in the
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hospital earlier his bowels slowed down and he may have something similar going on but this time it is more of an emergent bladder issue. we get lab work to make sure there are no signs of infection so a standard routine workup is what are they doing for him now? that is really the unknown. it all depends on what the diagnosis and with the true emergent issue is. >> the pentagon says the hospitalization is not expect did to change his full recovery. what do you think about that >> i think when they talk about recovery they are talking about the diagnosis and the treatment for prostate cancer. in terms of cancer recovery, he has all of the odds in his favor but it is a matter of getting to that point in healing from the surgery itself, which is the big unknown. what he is going through is extremely rare. over 300,000 men are diagnosed with prostate cancer in america
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every year and a large percentage of those will have their prostate removed and a good percentage of those patients will be back to normal activities and quality of life. i think he has an unusual case so i think and hope he will recover. >> it has been a much longer road than anticipated. thank you for being with us doctor. >> thank you. the chiefs may have won the big game vote which super bowl commercials are you still talking about? we are going to discuss the winners and the losers up next.
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the kansas city chiefs already fielding questions about a repeat. them a beat. >> it has been a few hours after they won the second consecutive super bowl. they defeated the san francisco 49ers in overtime and afterwards a vegas nightclub, at a vegas nightclub you can see travis kelce and game mvp patrick mahomes celebrating to queens we are the champions today he said this about winning a third consecutive super bowl. >> it is legendary. no one has ever done it.
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we know other teams have done it. can do is come in next her knowing it will be harder for you >> we know who won on the field in ruled time off the clock? we are talking the commercials it cost this year at least $6.5 million for just 30 seconds of airtime. brand and marketing consultant is here. peter, i know what my favorite ad was and i will play that in a second, but what was yours? >> i love duncan. what a great start with great celebrities. i was a big fan. >> and it was part two of an ad we saw last year. let's play a part of that. >> how do you like them donuts?
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i'm so sorry. >> laius on the track. >> then there tom brady and j lo saying you can stay after she kicks ben affleck out. what makes this ad so great? it was my favorite. >> it was hysterical, first of all. it was funny, not only from the perspective that it did not force the brand in-your- face, it gave you celebrities who played off each other very well. knowing the back story of ben and everyone in that group, marriage, divorce, it played out well and then add tom brady being told that he could stay it was well done. >> very funny. >> and matt damon of course. which ones did you not like as much? >> i think a lot fell flat. particularly religious ads, the ad for come to jesus was very,
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very strange. it did not seem to fit. two seconds of being on google, we find out for some reason it was paid for by the ceo of hobby lobby, who is famously known for going to court to prevent women from getting birth control. it stuck in a lot of people's bras the wrong way. >> some people, i assume, peter, liked the ad. >> there were definitely some people on line. there were some people who did like it. what was interesting, the backlash that i did not expect and i saw this on threads and twitter was people saying how come operations, for lack of a better word, this trended for a bit, how come a corporation has the money to spend $7 million for an ad but does not pay taxes?
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i think in this election year that was a tough choice. >> it has people talking. >> it does. as do some of the fun ones like verizon with beyonci and tony hale and then mountain dew. what other ones did you like? >> i loved dove. i loved dove the hard knock life commercial that showed young girls getting knocked down in gymnastics and kickball and getting back up and fighting, that made me happy. my daughter like to about one. >> that body confidence message i thought was good because people talk about it, but it reminded you of it is so important for girls and young women so that they will continue in sports. i like how they connected that. >> good range from funny and light to more serious messages. >> very meaningful. >> no question. i cannot let it go by mentioning the fact they
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are making a wicked movie. i was screaming and my living room. >> you like holes.com? >> i thought it was cute. little rapper jumped in for about 10 seconds unexpected. i thought that was cute christopher walken for bmw. i am sure every person comes up to him and tries to do an impression that was funny. or the other ones? paramount had a phenomenal add where they included patrick stewart and for some strange reason the band of creed. i thought it was so out of left field that it actually work. >> i think we are also going to remember the rfk junior add. that was one that left a mark, even in that family and publicly . >> it was interesting. the ad ran, it looked like kennedy from the 60s, and
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original jfk add from the 60s. two seconds later he tweets out an apology to his family saying he had nothing to do with the ad, except the ad was his top pinned tweet all day and it still is. >> he likes the ad and he is sorry. >> and he made clear it was a super pac that he does not control. >> peter, it was great. the ads are almost as fun as the halftime show. we thank you for going through them with us. >> i loved usher rollerskating. >> we will be right back.
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