bomb, though no explosives were found in her backpack or the car she drove to the church. investigators also carried out an extensive search of moreno is home in the city of khan row, about 40 miles north of the lakewood church. as they continue to dig into a more clear motive of this shooting attack, the shooter has a criminal history and has been previously convicted of assault and unlawful carrying of a weapon among other charges. police say they found anti-semitic writings connected to moreno. >> we're all still pretty shook up and we're pretty scared. >> but i mean, like we're not going to allow >> that, you know, this sphere to be in us because this is our charge and this is a place of prayer and worship. and we still want to come back and we still want to pray and worship here. >> wolf investigators added that genesee moreno has a history of mental health issues and that they discovered those anti-semitic writings belong and to her, they also say either she had been involved in dispute with their ex husband's family some of those

relatives they say are jewish. >> wolf that 11 day are reporting for us, ed, thanks very much as you, our viewers, thanks for watching. erin burnett outfront starts right now. >> outfront next breaking news, trump taking his case to the supreme court, a last ditch effort to press his claim of total immunity as president. this as he's looking to slow down the georgia election the trial can he keep any of them from coming to a verdict before the election? was the backlash, building the joint chiefs of staff tonight slamming trump's threat to abandon nato, the former director of the cia and retired army general david prius ways in out front and it is one of the most closely watched elections. >> one that could give >> democrats more power in washington. tom suozzi is confident that he we'll flip. george santos to seat these my guest. let's go outfront >> and good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news trump appealing

to the supreme court, the former president now pressing the nation's highest court to step in and agree that he has absolute immunity for crimes that he may have committed while in office now, trump is appealing this historic ruling by a federal appeals court that says he has to stand trial for january 6. now, remember, that was a scathing rebuke from the three judges. they unanimously batted down trump's argument that he has absolute immunity. and they slammed his alleged efforts to stay in power now at the time, trump railed publicly against the ruling. he called it election interference. but now it is actually a legal document. it is filed and his legal team tonight writes, quote, the dc circuits order thus threatens immediate irreparable injury to the first amendment interests of president trump and tens of millions of american voters who are entitled to hear president trump's campaign message as they decide how to cast their ballots in november. odd because obviously this isn't about campaign message. it's about what he did on january 6, but this appeal does put the

supreme court right in the center of the 2024 election now ryan goodman, our legal analyst and his team had just security, went through this document today and they still conclude that we are looking at a verdict of guilty or not guilty just weeks before the election. >> in this case. now this is not the only case that consume >> trump's time and energy today, though, he also chose to appear at another hearing. this one was unclear classified documents found at mar-a-lago. trump came face-to-face with a judge. he appointed aileen cannon behind closed doors. trump's team wants access to the evidence that the doj has, but that's something prosecutors have been trying to prevent. they claim some of these documents are too sensitive. now this dispute over the classified materials is threatening let's drag out that case. currently, it is still scheduled to go to trial on may 20, but we'll see what happens with that as this develops, it also came today as trump prepared for hearing in atlanta, and whether the da prosecuting trump will be removed from the georgia election interference interference case that is

slated for this week as well. our team of reporters is standing by here ivan perez, live in fort pierce, florida, or trump appeared in court today. and nick valencia live in atlanta. so evan, let me start with you. i want to start with a trump's immunity appeal because that came late today obviously, he wants a supreme court to take this up. when could we hear from them in this case >> well, the pressure will be on the supreme court to say immediately, erin weather the former president gets to have a pause on the proceedings because obviously, the way this appeals courts structured its decision is order. this was set to go back to the trial judge so that she could resume the effort to prepare for trial as soon as possible. so now what trump needs it is for the supreme court to come in and say that there is going to be a pause at least for them to hear from the special counsel from the government whether this needs to be paused further there are off-course weather.

the former president gets to use all of the parts of the appeal, part of this is the former president is trying to buy hi and perhaps spend another few weeks asking for the appeals court to have an banc hearing, have the entire appeals court rehear the case. one of the things you heard from the former president and his filing today, he said that this was going to radically disrupt his ability to campaign. i'll tell you this. he was here in fort pierce here's today. he didn't have to come to this hearing, but he did show up was here for about five hours a his campaign was outside. aaron, a handing out signs to some of them his supporters who are outside again, the former president using the filing tonight to make the point that, you know, these these these trials are getting in the way of his campaigning issue is erin, he doesn't have to show up to all of these things. he's choosing to do that as part of his campaign, of course we don't know yet whether when we're

going to hear from the supreme court. but obviously this could eat up several more weeks of time. >> all right, obviously when you get to the timeline that we're on here with an election several weeks matters a lot, evan. thank you so much. and trump is not only trying to fend off those federal trials, he is trying to delay his trial in georgia, which of course is a crucial one for many reasons, including that any kind of a presidential pardon for even going to have that conversation wouldn't apply to a state verdict hearing in that case is now scheduled for thursday, which is the same day as a hearing in trump's new york hush money case. let's go to nick valencia, who is in atlanta. nick, this is obviously an important hearing. what more can you tell us about it? it's now scheduled. i understand. for thursday where you are in atlanta erin, it's a major hearing. it could be a defining day in this case, especially now that the door is open for fani willis potentially to be disqualified over this. the designing judge scott mcafee, signaling that he's taking these allegations of an improper relationship very seriously and saying that if he sees there's evidence that willis financially benefited from this personal improper relationship with or

lead prosecutor then that could potential lead her for to being disqualified. listen to mcafee in his own words at a hearing earlier today >> the state has admitted a relationship existed. and so what remains to be proven as the existence and extent of any financial benefit? again, if they're if they're even was one, i think it's possible that the facts alleged by the defendant could result in disqualification. i think an evidentiary hearing must occur another major headline is fani willis could have to testify in her own defense. it depends on what other witnesses called safe first, ashleigh merchant, she is the attorney that first made these allegations. public. she says she intends to call a star witness named terence bradley, who will prove not only did willis financially benefited from this alleged relationship, if from this relationship rather, but also that this relationship began before willis hired wade to be the special prosecutor in this one thing that we won't hear and thursday's hearing anything

to do with nathan wade? qualifications. it's clear that mcafee only wants to hear evidence related to this, whether not she financially profited from this relationship, erin. >> all right. thank you very much. neck and of course, we should say in her filing, she made very clear that the relationship did not start until after she had already hired him. and in fact, she had tried to hire several other people before hiring him and that other relationships started after that so obviously crucial to note that as well was in that filing, ty cobb is with me now the former trump white house lawyer, ty, so much to talk about, i want to start with the immunity filing from trump, but coming late today, i know you've had a chance to read through it. obviously, i know you don't think that he should have immunity, but now you're seeing their full argument that they want to put in front of the supreme court. is it persuasive? >> not at all. erin. >> nice to be with you again >> the bri this brief this petition, first day is pretty weak it's repetitive. of their briefs below which the arguments that they presented were not only soundly rejected,

but eviscerated both in oral argument and in the opinion. i don't think the supreme court is going to find those arguments compelling in any way. the supreme court can do a variety of things here. you know, they can grant or they can grant or deny the stay. if they'd grant the stay hey you know, they will likely expedite consideration of the case. it can turn the they can turn the state petition into a cert petition and either grant or deny that they can do that very quickly. or they could grant to stay and wait for trump to file for search, which i don't think they will do i personally. and i maybe sharp minority. i personally don't see them taking this case although i do think it's possibility they could consider the state

petition as a petition for cert and stay the case for 28 or ten. i'm sorry, 24 to 48 hours. >> and then and then deny cert. i think this case could be over this week which would be obviously hugely significant. and as you point out, denying, start with me letting the lower court obviously stand. so i know you have also tie in the classified documents case you have trump there today. obviously there by choice. again, these are all by choice. so he chose to be in that room behind closed his doors with a judge that he happened to a point, aileen cannon, and the judge met with trump's team. he was there and also with jack smith's team. jack smith's team. and right now this seems to be focused and we don't know what happened behind closed doors, right. but on whether the trump team will have access to the names of people involved in some of these some of these documents. what do you think, judge cannon will do?

>> so there are two tracks running in florida right now. one is on the motion to reconsider her decision to permit trump and the public access to unredacted documents that would would reflect names. but those were interviewed susan of witnesses and other things that would reveal witnesses and not necessarily classified information, then there's the meeting today which was held behind closed doors, which specifically focused on classified documents i think that this judge has no intention of allying this case be tried before the election. in any event, i think her ruling last week was clear air as jack smith has highlighted in the motion to reconsider i think think if she doesn't reconsider or if she

reconsiders and stays the course on that ruling, that the special counsel will mandamus are on the 11th circuit, will reverse or quickly and perhaps even remover. certainly if she grants access to classified documents that the government doesn't believe is appropriate. under the classified procedures act, the government has a right to an interlocutory appeal to go straight to the 11th circuit and seek seek relief on that. and also likely to seek her removal. >> also be fascinating to see whether we whether we do get better removal. >> all right. ty, thank you. as always my pleasure. thank you. >> all right. >> the next the breaking news, a top biden official tonight, warning that america's credibility is at stake as trump threatens to abandon america's allies, former cia director of the retired army general david petraeus weighs in next plus biden today, joking about his age and memory problems. >> they know where i know. i don't look like i've been around awhile i do remember that. >> and an exclusive dispatch

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comments encouraging russia to attack any nato ally which does not spend enough on its own defense. it is quote, solely in the interest of russia, according to the german chancellor olaf scholz. >> and in the united states, the >> joint chiefs chairman cq brown, trying to reassure allies about america's commitment to them tonight us credibility at stake. each of our alliances and us leadership is still needed. want it and watch >> well, the reason for all of this is because of something that trump said which has sent shockwaves around the world after he said this about nato one of the president of a big country who stood up, said well sir, if we don't pay and were attacked by russia, >> will you protect us? i said you didn't pay. you're delinquent he said, yes, let's say that happened. no, i would not protect you. in fact, i would encourage them to do whatever they held. a while. you got to paying all right,

well, obviously just to be clear what that means to encourage them to do whatever the hell they would want. i mean, the way it is right now is that nato considers an attack on any member country to be an attack on all, including the united states. so in giving that anecdote, if it occurred, trump is either signaling his intent to abandon nato, a crucial military alliance which is defined and the world after world war ii or he is potentially inviting world war three. so outfront now, the former cia director and retired army general david petraeus. >> so >> general petraeus obviously weather an incident like this actually occurred as it's, as he relays, it is highly suspect, but the point that he's saying, if i if you don't pay your >> delinquent, i would not protect you. in fact, i would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. >> you got to pay. what's your reaction when you hear that? >> well, it's concerning. in fact, of all day long i've been fielding emails from old colleagues and i actually had assignments where i was dual-headed as a us and nato officer at the 13 and four-star

level. so a lot of experience with nato and the number of earlier assignments as well. and everyone is seeking reassurance just as was the chairman of the joint chiefs and i agree very much with him and what he said. there's a particular irony about this too. and that is that the europeans have really been stepping up in recent years, particularly of course, after the russian invaders version of ukraine, he had a point when he was in office, as did all of his predecessors. again, i heard this from president obama adding new nato summit when i was a nato commander, i heard it from president bush secretary gates in his final gathering of the nato defense ministers, railed on the subject. so there is absolutely a point here. but there has been actually considerable progress and we're talking about the 2% of gdp on defense, where we're not including, again, what europe is doing for ukraine in all the different areas, by the way? they've actually, you point out the pledge or more, even in security assistance than we have now, we've done about 44

billion. that's over a two-year period in which we had annual defense budgets of over 800 billion each year? >> yes. this is easily affordable, but at the end of the day, this is really about our cold hard national interests. keep in mind that russia, first of all, would never stop if they achieved their objectives in ukraine, moldova, and lithuania, nato member was the nexus of an explanation point on that. >> you're saying is they would not stop this? no, they be happy if everyone would negotiate and settle for a couple of process come the nonsense he has never stopped his goal since taking office increasingly has been to reassemble as much of the former soviet union or russian empire as he can remember. this is someone who said that the worst geopolitical catastrophe of the previous century, which included two world wars in the great depression was the dissolution of the soviet union. and by the way, he holds us are responsible for that. so his grievances are not even just with his name where's and former soviet union republics. it's with the united states and we should recognize that. >> and >> recognize that we do not want him to succeed. because

again, it won't stop. and that's the real question before our congress right? now. this is not just about donald trump and overly populist rhetoric on the campaign trail, causing all signs of concerns with our nato allies and undermining deterrence at the end of the day, therefore, as well, or at least creighton, some doubts about that, right? this is about what's going on in capitol hill right now where if this $60 billion package together with the additional funding for israel in for the indo-pacific region. ukraine is in serious trouble you mentioned israel. >> we now understand that about 100 gazans were killed by israeli airstrikes is part of that operation to free the two hostages, which happened over the weekend. this is according to israeli officials, so they're saying this, i'm sorry, according to local officials, just to be clear, but they're saying 100 people were killed cnn is reporting that president biden's growing increasingly frustrated with prime minister netanyahu and the possibility of slowing this down of a ceasefire or anything of the sort >> i'm curious. you know, that

he's he's, he's really frustrated. apparently the call yesterday, it was 45 minutes any he got off and he was feels that he's being ignored ignored by netanyahu. >> and i wanted to ask you about this general, because the united states has spent about 300 billion on economic and military aid to israel. of course dwarfing the aid any other country in the region can you explain why biden does not have more leverage over prime minister netanyahu, why he would feel ignored. >> well, i'll leave that to those that study domestic politics in the us, but let me actually just comment on the bigger issue here because i actually believe that print prime minister netanyahu is right to want to destroy hamas. i don't believe if this is an organization with whom you can reconcile or you can leave them still alive and keep in mind by the way, destroy doesn't mean every single last leader and member. it just means to render the enemy and capable of accomplishing his mission without reconstitution, keep your eye on that task. i believe they have to dismantle the political wing again as he

believes they need to obviously to get their hostages back. and it was great to see that they did get two of them back here in the last 48 hours. the problem is that how you go about this matters? and we used to have a sign on the wall of what the command centers you had five combat commands and this sin was staring me in the face and it asked, will this operation take more bad guys off the street than it creates by its conduct. and you've got to really think that through because isn't that this seems to be an obvious answer to that in this case it may be again it unless you really know what's the target, what's the i mean, i don't really case of, two hostages for 100? i mean, what's happening with the israeli operation in gaza? >> well, i think the president's reservations and secretary of state's and others are founded. there is substance here it doesn't mean that you shouldn't destroy hamas. and that's where i find the disconnect and i'm concerned that even in northern gaza, where they have clear to considerable portion of that area, you see hamas trying to

reconstitute. remember, you have to keep them from reconstituting. we learned the hard way after we withdrew our combat forces in the rockies, took their eye off the islamic state, that they can reconstitute that was the first ever islamist extremist caliphate. so how they go about this is critical and they've got to get many of these more than 1 million palestinian civilians down in southern gaza back into their homes in northern gaza, even if heavily damaged and show them that life will be better and secure them from hamas. >> all right, general petraeus. thank you so much. i appreciate your time. good to be with you. thank you. >> and next, in just hours, polls open in the crucial ways to replace george santos. this is a crucial race and the question is whether democrats can win it back. democrat credit candidate tom suozzi says yes and he will be outfront next. >> and >> disturbing details emerging tonight about the mother who opened fire, joel osteen, mega church. we're now learning that he had a second weapon

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polls opening in just hours in the race to replace the disgraced former congressman george santos democrats think they have a chance to flip the seat as former congressman tom suozzi takes on the republican newcomer mazi pilip now the race is tight. the results could be a huge indicator of what is to come in november. miguel marquez begins our coverage outfront >> you want a company the final porch democrat, tom suozzi, going old school, handing out pastries at neighborhood bakery st. rocco's election eve. how are you feeling? >> i feel fantastic. this is been a great election. we've run a fantastic campaign has been the best campaign i've ever been involved in what crisis? >> the minus crisis, republican mazi pilip reaching out to her voters through national conservative media these shows where we are seeing right now the border crisis and vetted migrants coming here, attacking our police officers on the streets. this is exactly the formula when you are weak on crime, early voting. >> now done

>> nine days of early voting plus absentees. so far, 80,467 voters out of more than a half million active voters there isn't a district have cast their ballots over 37,000 registered democrats, over 25,000 registered republicans, and nearly 15,000 with no party affiliation with turnout expected to be low. any major snowstorm forecasts for election day many of the votes in this race may already be cast are still campaign volunteers in the thousands from both parties knocking on doors, targeting likely voters, making sure they get to the polls >> hearing a lot voters here bombarded with ads from both campaigns. suozzi making the pitch that he's a trusted centrist and steady hand santos to after the chaos of george santos hello, ups pitch to voters. she's a new voice who can make a difference her

opponent to tie to joe biden and the national democratic establishment. >> tom suozzi voted with biden every single time democrats have far-out spent republicans $13.8 million to republicans 8.1 million. for some voters, it doesn't matter as put it a problem from washington he's been he's been down here and here. he voted 100% with biden every time you want to see an outsider, i wanted to see some new. we don't need the same has been going on. >> others here see high stakes and an overwhelming desire to return to the political center. >> i am registered in one direction, but i'm generally an independent at this point. wyhe, so >> important to come out here and vote today i was concerned over our last representative we've had no representative focused on integrity this time around so what you're looking

at here behind us is the vanguard of the republican party here in nassau county. they just had their final rally four mazi pilip, before election start the election starts tomorrow. >> they had >> luminaries from across the state of the republicans want to hold this seat congress is so narrowly divided. democrats certainly want to pick that seat up because then they'll really be even more razor thin that snowstorm tomorrow. republicans here say, if voters can't get to the polls, they have monster trucks at the ready to pick them up. and get them to the polls. all right. >> that's gonna be fascinating to see how this plays out, right, miguel, thank you. >> and >> outfront now is the democratic candidate in this race, the former congressman tom suozzi, obviously just saw him there in miguel's reporting, talking to voters in these final hours before election day. and i really appreciate your time. i know you are looking right now to flip this seat back to demo that's obviously the trend and the district that has been the other direction. it's been a bit of an uphill climb. so do you feel like you can do it

right now? and what your polling shows and given the anticipated bad weather yeah, i feel great. >> you know, the polling shows us ahead the public polling shows us four points ahead, three points ahead. our private polling shows the same thing. the bottom line is, people are sick and tired of washington dc. they're sick and tired of everybody attacking each other and i want to try and bring an antidote to that. i want to try and get it that we focus on delivering for the people, people working together across party lines, democrats and republicans, trying to find common ground. we see that happening with this bipartisan bill in the senate that got killed because trump dove in and said, we don't want to give biden a victory because we're not doing that bipartisan bill in the senate we're keeping the border open, were endangering israel. and we're empowering putin. that doesn't make any sense. and as mitt romney says, that's appalling. so we've got to get people working together to try and solve the problems we face in our country again. >> all right, so in your district of the headwinds that i'm referring to, when joe biden won your district easily,

eight point thanks. in 2020, right. i mean, i was that was not close. but a recent poll now shows him losing to trump if the election were held now by five points, right? so that's obviously huge swing and in your district specifically, of course, people are watching nassau county, which flipped to elect a republican as its top official and the majority leader, chuck schumer, law us there to a republican in 2022, right? so there's some data points that could be quite troubling. how do you overcome that >> this is a very tough seat for any democrat, but the polling shows it. i'm still ahead because people know me and i'm not running this race as democrat. vote for me. i'm a democrat versus republican i'm saying vote for me because i want to change what's going on in washington dc and get people to work together, you know, from before erin, i was the vice chair of the problem solvers caucus 25 democrats, 25 republicans working together to try and find common ground. my opponent of the other hand is the same old extremist viewpoints, just taking the same talking points straight

from the top. she's anti-choice she's pro guns. she won't support the bipartisan immigration deal. i mean, by not supporting that deal, you're keeping the border opening, you bringing more migrants to new york by not supporting that deal, you're endangering israel by not supporting that deal. you're empowering putin. >> people are sick of that. people want us working together i think that when you look at a race like this, you've got to figure out what's the message that the people want to hear. and fortunately, my message is the same message i've had for 30 years, which is i just want to get stuff done. i want to help people. i want to fix problems. that's what i'm about. >> the influx of migrants is obviously huge problem around the country. country, but specifically in new york and new york city. new report in axios today details serious infighting and the biden administration over the crisis is and i know you've been campaigning, so i wanted to read it to specifically, it says it was a meeting on air force one on the way to tour the border late last year, president biden then quote, lit into his team. he demand ended

obscure immigration data points and vented when he staff didn't have them handy, continues to say, quote, people in the meeting later told others and frustration that his winding process and irritability, we're making it more difficult to reach decisions about the border, the time you didn't appear with the president was he was in new york last week at his fundraisers. >> your party affiliation doesn't appear on lawn signs which are staked across the district. do you believe that president biden is a liability for you >> i think the president biden is underwater in my district, but president trump has also underwater my district. nobody's popular coming out of washington, dc these days because they're not getting enough stuff done i said to the president in through the new york times and to some of his staff back in august of last year, the president should do what bill clinton did, take the issue they're attacking you on, make it your own, propose a bipartisan solution if the republicans go along with you, we can finally fix a problem. we've had for 35 years in our country if they don't go along, you can say, oh, they're just playing politics and of this

issue. it didn't go the way i said, but it's the same result. the president supports the bipartisan deal in the senate right now, that would close the border, that would hire more immigration judges that would put more border police on the border, that would build a wall that would give money to new york city in new york state that would do all the things we want to do. but it's being stopped by president trump and the republicans and speaker johnson, just because they want to win political points. >> hi tom suozzi. thank you very much. i appreciate your time >> thank you so much. all right. next first lady, jill biden, coming to her husband's defense what she's telling democrats tonight that is actually raising a lot of money for the biden campaign at this hour as these numbers puts them and new details about the mother who opened fire and joel osteen, mega church police now saying they have uncovered anti-semitic writings we're here to get your side of the store >> fares bribery, prostitution. why do we keep ending up here >> you can't write this stuff >> united states of scandal

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jill, biden, making a much more serious argument, she writes, quote, believe me, like anyone who has lost a child bow and his death never leave him. i hope you can imagine how it felt to read that attack, that email from her is now the second most lucrative email since president biden's a campaign launch announcement outfront. now the foreign biden white house communications director kate bedingfield, and former illinois republican congressman adam kinzinger, congresswoman. just start with you on the point of obviously joe biden being very serious in her response, but the president himself trying to defuse the situation with humor, right? you may not notice it, but i've been around a long time, at least i remember that is that is it a laughing matter? is that the way to handle this >> yeah. i think it isn't the way to handle it. i think they need to flip. >> this >> isn't something that is going to go out of the minds of voters. it's not like if you talk about something else, people are going to forget that he's advanced age. i think the best thing he can do struck it. you think back to ronald reagan

in his debate where he said i'm not going to use my opponent's youth and inexperience against him. and that actually was it was huge, was a huge line. >> joe biden, i think can be pretty funny. and i think it's it's, you know, talk about it, be serious, be a serious man which he is. but i think fine times to joke about it. and then obviously pivot back to the fact that his opponent is not just losing his memory, he is also in saying, well, they're manna to cave here trump did though, to the point that the congressman just said make some pretty incredible and confusing gaps himself, right? this is not just kind of stumbling around. these are actually things that often for the current president. he got slammed for, let me play a few >> is a man, viktor orban, did anyone ever hear of him? he's probably like one of the strongest leaders anywhere in the world and he is the leader of right. he's the leader of turkey. nikki haley. you know.

do you know they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything deleted a destroyed all of it all of it, because of lots of things like nikki haley is in charge of security, kim's younger and leads 1.4 billion people and there's no doubt about who the bosses and they want me to say he's not an intelligent man >> obviously >> okay >> that's not the president of turkey that of course is erdogan, nikki haley and nancy pelosi are different people. and kim jong un is not to be confused with chinese president xi, all right, but this happened again and again, kate, i will be honest if this happened with president biden, there there's coverage of it but there isn't so much with trump. i put these together for a reason. what does it say about trump? does it make a difference? >> well, this, erin, i think this is exactly why age is not actually going to be the defining issue in this race? is it going to be a factor? yes. of course. we know that we see it in the polling. obviously

both candidates are on the older end of the spectrum. it's going to be a piece of the discussion, but it is not actually going to be the defining issue in the race, in the way that i think that a lot of the press is trying to make it out to be right now. and i think what you have to do is take a step back and look at the substance of what trump and biden are saying when they're out in the campaign trail and you had trump this weekend saying that if he were president and nato allies weren't paying, he would allow russia to do whatever the hell they want to come in, start world war three free. he essentially said, i'm not going to stand up to our adversaries when i'm president, that's an incredibly serious and frightening thing that's also the kind of chaotic leadership. if you want to call it leadership, that people are rejected about donald trump in 2020. so this notion of who's going to recall a specific name in the context of the conversation that's not the defining thing. it's what is the what is the conversation there say, what is the actual content around, and totally get it kate and i totally understand, congressman, how

many want that to be the conversation and sometimes it is, but it does seem with president biden and certainly from the polling while there's concern about both being older it is focused on him it absolutely is focused on him and what can democrats do, congressman to turn that around where every conversation with him isn't somehow get into that space. >> i mean, look, it is about him. he's the president, right now and he's the one making the decisions and fair or unfair. and i think it's unfair, obviously, in comparison to donald trump, but donald trump appears very energetic. and frankly, as we've seen with his base, he can literally change what he believes in a rally from one day to the next. and it doesn't matter because what they want to do is just belong to this light maga thing. so what can democrats do? i think you've got to get joe biden out there. he doesn't have to run a marathon, but i think get out there, he should have done the super bowl interview. i don't understand that.

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is outfront with new details tell us moments before a spanish language service was set to start >> paying >> those are gunshots >> you want i believe that it's something different so you hear the second shots and then you see the fear in people's eyes is when you realize that there's an active shooter woman wearing a trench coat and a backpack had walked into celebrity pastor joel osteen, mega church with her seven-year-old son and an ar-15 in rifle and opened fire. >> there's a few minute gone battle for lack of better term, a gun battle with to off duty law enforcement officers working security at the church these two officers held their ground they held their ground in the face of rifle fire at point-blank range. >> police identified the shooter is 36 year-old genesee

moreno. they say she had a second weapon in her backpack. she said she had a ball. >> she eventually falls to the ground the seven-year-old child falls to the ground as well from gunfire. one gunshot wound to the head, junior people down we need to have those for the child. >> what we need to do for him is pray. he's still and critical condition fighting for his life. >> i want to thank all these gentlemen because, you know, i can only imagine if it would have been during the 11:00 service. >> that's when posture ostia was preaching. >> god bless you. it's quite to be with you today. it's have gathered to hear this prominent pastor televangelist, businessmen and author preaches that wealth is a sign of divine favor. >> god wants you to not only have all your needs supplied but plenty leftover. so you can be a blessing to others officials say the shooter had a history of mental health

issues. apparently, she bought the rifle in december >> legally, there was a sticker on the but stock of the rifle that stated palestine a sticker simply stated palestine investigators say they have found anti-semitic writings and believed there was some kind of dispute involving her ex-husband family, some of whom are jewish warning she targeted this christian mega-church remains unclear >> so >> investigators are still trying to piece together the life of the shooter or divorce, custody battle. a fairly lengthy, but fairly minor criminal history, possession of an illegal weapon, possession of maryland one, a forgery assault, and also there is one known connection to the church back in 2020, the shooter posted on social media a picture of a letter from the lakewood church thanking her for a donation >> erin oh, it's just so tragic

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