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hour, russia's space nukes the house intelligence committee chairman sounding the alarm on a quote, serious national security threat. cnn now learning the us has new information on putin's nuclear capabilities. >> and this hour we're following more breaking news out of washington. the special counsel, jack smith, pressing the supreme court to deny trump's total claims of immunity just hours before trump's back in court. for the new york hush money case. >> let's go outfront >> and good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, a deadly mass shooting at the kansas city chiefs super bowl rally according to police, 21 people were shot and injured. that includes children and at least one person has died. gunfire erupting at the end of the chiefs victory parade were more than 1 million people had gathered at least three people are now in custody and under investment in a moment, i'm going to speak to a father and daughter. they witnessed the shooting and sent us this video of the father. his name is paul. you're going to meet them in a moment tackling what he says is one of the alleged gunman. so you'll hear exactly
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what they saw and did here and the video coming out of this event shows an absolutely chaotic scene, as i said, there were 1 million people there. and in this moment, you've got hundreds of people running for their lives. nick watt is outfront live in los angeles to begin our coverage tonight. and nick police just wrapping up their press conference what's the latest about what happened? who did it, where they are? >> well, erin, earlier today, the police have said that there were two people detained and they were described as suspects. they now say that there are three people in custody and they are quote, under investigation. the police are appealing for the public's help to try and figure out exactly what happened and how it happened. and if perhaps there were other people involved, erin, this is still clearly a very active investigation >> this should have been a >> celebration in honor of the chiefs back-to-back super bowl
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champion instead, yet another mass shooting in america, one dead and at least 21 injured by gunfire just west of union station in kansas city as the rally wrapped up, unclear how many were actually shot. there was panic. fire department personnel giving life-sustaining treatment on the streets >> everybody started running. there were screaming. we didn't know what was happening, but this day and age when people run, you run, three people were detained according to police. >> there. >> now under investigation. >> we did see our two police officers, least someone away in handcuffs, or a jump like a red? yes. >> i'm angry at what happened today >> the people >> who came to this celebration should expect a safe environment. we had over 800 law enforcement officers, kansas city and other agencies at the location to keep everyone safe. >> the people were not safe and
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hundreds of thousands were on the streets. kansas city schools had closed for the day but an event like this is almost impossible to completely secure. it is a massive open space. tickets are not required. there are no gates and admission areas. so combine that with the fact that missouri is a state that does not control the carrying of firearms essentially, anyway, one can carry a firearm. you have a huge crowd and likely a large because significant portion of that population and carrying firearms. so any conflict or dispute can easily turn into a shooting >> still unclear if the parade was actually targeted the chiefs say all their players and staff are safe, as are the governors of missouri and kansas who were both at the celebration. chiefs star quarterback patrick mahomes posted on x praying for kansas city. >> this is absolutely a tragedy. the likes of which we would have never expected in
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kansas city and the likes of which we will remember for some time >> now, the police chief, who you just saw in that report, she was actually out on the street. she heard the gunshots and she described watching her officers and others weapons drawn, running two the danger. the police are also looking into another piece of video which appears to show chiefs, fans in that parade chasing an apprehending one of the suspect's, the chief says they're not sure if that is one of the suspects, but they're looking into that right now to see if there are also heroes amongst the fans. >> erin, all right, well, neck, thank you very much. and outfront now is paul contraries and his daughter, alyssa marsh, a contraries. they witnessed the shooting and help tackle someone to the ground who was taken into custody. >> and paul and alyssa. thank you so much for being with us. what a terrifying day okay. >> paul >> you were there and you shared video here of the moment that you help tackle this person. what can you tell us
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about what happened in matt moment >> i just heard somebody yelling to stop this guy tackle him and he was coming in opposite direction. so i just you don't think about it. it's just a reaction he got close to me. i got the right angle on him and i hit him from behind and when i hit him from behind i either gerard the gun out of his hand or out his sleeve because as i'm taking them down to the ground, i see the gun on the ground. so i take them down and i'm putting all all my body weight on him. and then another good samaritan comes over and is helping me because i kinda got them high. and the other guy get them around his waist. and where is putting our weight on him? and he's just fighting to get up, but we're we're fighting to
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keep him down. >> and >> another samaritan comes over and put his weight on us and we're waiting for the koppe to show. they finally they get there >> and >> the second koppe guests there, the third koppe case there, then they pretty, much takeover and i am standing there for about a minute or two you know, many of the cops didn't even have like one or two words well, once they had them and got him cuffed i sat there for two minutes with all my three daughters, and then we just walked away. we headed credit card i mean, it's incredible on your end, you're there with your three daughters mean obviously alyssa's with you now. paul, can i just ask when you say that the gun you don't know whether it fell out of his hand or maybe out of his sleeve. right. and when he went down then the gun goes on the ground. did you see him fire the gun >> no. no. >> i did not say clearly gone.
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i just when i tackled him, i've seen what i seen like i said, out of his hand or out of his sleeve and taking them down. i think the gun on the corner and alyssa, you're there with your dad and your sisters. i know you took this video after when when your dad had tackled this man with the other good samaritans as he describes it. and then the police officers come as your dad just walked through. so now we see the multiple offices stars have this man pin to the ground. what did you see during all of this? and what would you were you even thinking watching your dad do this >> i mean, it all happened so fast. i think the most alarming thing was when we saw cops chasing people and then seeing young painter kid just completely coming at us and then i noticed just everybody in the crowd just kind of scatters and runs. so from that moment on, i knew okay. something wasn't right. and so see my little sister along with my older sister just completely
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run and i didn't want to leave my dad's side because who knew what could've happened? first, they needed help. so i was just there to make sure his hat, his phone, his wallet did go missing in the process of him getting this offender down. >> i'm paul, i know police at this point, don't really have any details. i mean, they say they've got individuals and i guess it's unclear if one of the individuals that they are holding right now is the man that you tackle, but we don't know yet unless unless you know, but we don't know a motive. i mean, did you hear anything from from this this man as when you got him to the ground, did you do say anything >> and what did he look like >> when i tackled him and i took her to the ground. he was wearing like a big, bulky like work jacket. so when i got into the ground, he was face down and his hoodie was on. his hood was on. he was faced down and i was on top of them, keeping them down a town. like i said,
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another good samaritan was holding him by the waist down what his body on him so i really did not get a good look. but as i was holding him down, i didn't know if he tried to bite me or this tried to call out my hand. so i took my hand and put it outside to hold them down with a jacket in between us because he was you know, i'm holding them down. were fighting each other. he wants to get up while i'm holding him down then another guy helps me. and then, it just seem like a long time, but his party like 15 or 30 seconds i can yeah. he was fighting the whole time. fighting the whole time and we were fighting him to keep them down. we didn't want to let them and it takes off ron him he had one gun. he may had another one in that big bulky jacket, right? right. you couldn't even tell now. now it gives some context what you're saying that it could have been in his sleeve, right? i mean,
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when you talk about this bulky jacket, alyssa, this happens and your father runs to tackle this man because you hear shots at this guy is disguised running, right? was bulky jacket. can you describe what the shots sounded like? >> so from the moment it all happened so fast, like i've said, but it wasn't long after the celebration was all done and everybody was kind of dispersed in and going back to their cars probably a minute or so later. and you just hear pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. >> like i said, we're at a celebration and i >> think a lot of people thought were fireworks there's nobody really ran or anything. and i assumed that people, you notice it was gunshots or something. then we all would have been out of there really quick but then as soon as we see people getting chased and then cops running and then not long after my dad's tackling somebody who is assumed k too. >> okay. those were fireworks for the celebration and was gunshots well, it thank you both so much for sharing this. i can only imagine just sort of
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how traumatic that was. thank you for sharing and incredible to imagine paul at you who are unarmed, i guess, right? that you would run and chase someone who had a gun and it's, incredible >> i didn't know he had a gun and tell a talcott. and that's when i seen it on the ground yeah. so i don't know. >> it was just a reaction well, thank goodness for people like you thank you both so very much. >> thank you. thank you. >> chris swecker is with me now, the former assistant director the fbi's criminal investigation division. so chris, you know, you hear them talk about what happened and paul running at somebody. then when the gun comes out there trying to hold this guy down until the police come and we don't know if this is one of the individuals who's now currently being held but you hear this description, 22 people were wounded from the shooting that happened. and as i said, three detained what do you think happened here from
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the best you can tell? >> yeah. well, first i saw that video. it's extraordinary. this guy took him down and had had the presence of mind to do that i think that advances the investigation when you have somebody in fresh pursuit and catches somebody with a gun coming from a shooting. there'll be able to match the ballistics. and so he this guy is a true hero and those that helped him, >> this, let's first thing >> this rule out terrorism, the fbi would be front and center if this was even suspected or any shred of evidence of a terrorist student. so i think we can put that to the side. so this is appears to be a criminal act. and there are three suspects in custody. this was a sort of a spontaneous event. if you will. it sounds like if they were planning something, it seems like and they were trying to inflict mass casualties. they would have done it on the parade aid itself for maximum impact. so kansas city downtown, amongst 1
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million people, mingled in there are probably some pretty bad people, perhaps some gang members. and it sounds like this might've been a dispute and every single shot that was fired because of the density of the crowd hit somebody and that's why we may have those casualties. i don't have inside information. right after 40 years, you get a little sense of things and that's what it seems like here >> well, in terms of what happened, again, they were 1 million people at the parade and this was as it was ending, right. so as you point out, we understand there were more than 800 lines enforcement officers present, but obviously from what paul happened to paul, right. you had citizen hero run in and apprehend one of these individuals what's your take though on what we understand the ratio to be here that there were 800 law enforcement officers present at this giant event. >> well you place 800 against 1 million and a dynamic moving
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event like this that really they only had one or two days or three days to plan it right there. it's not like super bowl, the olympics where you can spend months and years planning with all inter-agencies coming together. this was an impromptu type event, which is the highest risk type event. it's open, it's wide open. so it's good that they had 800 officers out there. but that wasn't enough. i mean, i'm not saying that it wouldn't happen if there were a cop every five feet. i think the type of people that do this have no respect for law enforcement and it would happen anyway. >> it's just >> it's a difficult event to plan for. and afterwards, i think a lot of information goes flying into different directions and it doesn't go into the one place. you had a pre he said established command post, for example, an intelligence analyst sitting there waiting to grab the information the fog of war and chaos does rain in this type of situation.
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>> all right, well, chris, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you >> still incredible thing about paul running towards and taking down somebody to think about what it would take in such a moment to make that choice outfront next, the breaking news after the house intelligence chairman, cryptic warning about a national security threat cnn is now learning that the us has new intelligence on russia and putin's efforts to launch nukes in space. also breaking special counsel jack smith, just responding to trump's efforts to delay the federal election case. this coming just hours before trump is back in the courtroom. this time for the criminal hush money case in new york. and infighting inside the white house. there's new reporting this hour on the finger-pointing over how the administration he handled biden's response to the investigation into his handling of classified documents >> one, reading sabbath city >> that's not good. happen
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on russian state television nine months ago. as found by russian media analyst julia davis there's two >> i think it's time to turn up the human flu. cbs. we understand that all drones and everything else worked for americans only while starlink exists so if we carefully launch our nukes and space there will be no starlink left >> jim sciutto is outfront and jim, what more are you learning about this intelligence? >> so this is what we know at this hour, its new us intelligence, it's about a new russian military capability, specifically an anti-satellite capability bloody with a nuclear components. so the idea to target us are partners satellites in space, including surveillance satellites, nuclear or early warning satellites, with a nuclear component, which of course would expand the ability to destroy those capabilities in space considered serious enough that the us shared it with its five eyes partners, its closest
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intel partners, including the uk, canada, et cetera. i should note this as well, and i've spoken to three people who are ready in on this latest intelligence, including two lawmakers. and they told me one, this is not a clear and present danger. this is something that russia is experimenting with looking into designing it is not currently deployed and not considered something that will soon be deployed. that's key. second of all, erin, they've all said to me that this is highly sensitive intelligence, including the sourcing involved. so they were surprised that you have a member of congress that was going so public with this. if this time. so that's very important, as you said, it was mike turner who started with something cryptic about a new threat to the us. and it was reporters who dug into figure out exactly what he was talking about. but then later in the day you saw even one of his republican colleagues, the speaker mike johnson saying in his words, there is no cause for alarm right now so it's serious serious enough that they're sharing with their
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partners, but not one that is considered a serious threat today. >> all right, well, jim sciutto, thank you very much. of course. when other thing jim points out there, the sourcing is very crucial, right? if this is something that could threaten a crucial intelligence source that's providing the us information that is hugely significant as well. the democratic congressman seth moulton joins me now, and i appreciate your time, congressman. so what can you tell us about this threat? what you've learned about it? >> well, look, i think the speaker is right. this is a serious issue, but it's something that we're working hard to address and defense intelligence to defense officials, some of whom i spoke with again today are working on how to address this to make sure we keep americans safe it's important to understand that what the chairman of the house intelligence committee has done here, mike turner is fundamentally leak information. he's he's he is an intelligence leaker because what he did is he decided to take highly sensitive
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compartmented intelligence. that means that even if you have a very like a top-secret clearance fair enough. or something, you only have access to the intelligence if you have a need to know and he shared it with every member of congress, people like marjorie taylor greene, who of course, we all know cannot be trusted to keep the secret. and indeed it only took a few hours for the details of this weapon system to come out. so he may think he has very principled reasons to do this, but he's put our national security at risk. he's put the sources of intelligence at risk he's raised a lot of questions with our allies who of course count on us to keep the safe and he's really inhibited our ability to respond so do you believe that he should face penalties >> oh, yeah. look, i certainly don't trust him. i certainly don't trust him. i think the house republican leadership has to really address whether he can continue sharing this committee. look, if you asked edward snowden, one of the most infamous american leakers why he leaked? that intelligence. that of course put our national
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security at risk. he would give you very principled reasons in his mind for doing so. and i'm sure that mike turner believes he has very principled reasons for releasing this intelligence. >> but i tell you what a lot of us really disagree. a lot of republicans disagree, and certainly the defense department officials who are working to respond to this disagree as well. >> and you know what >> aaron he did it because he was offended. apparently he was offended that he wasn't told about this by the biden administration. so in other words, he has a partisan reason for doing this. but there's a problem with that. he and i both sit on the house armed services committee and i was briefed about this two years ago. i haven't had a problem keeping a secret secret but if he just found out about this apparently he wasn't paying attention >> right. because you're pointing out you knew you were all briefed two years ago >> not that not all of us, but those votes needed to know and certainly, chairman turner could have found out himself, right? would have been on that list that's right. and it's
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interesting, you're talking about the reasons that you understand, but he may have done it, obviously, as you know, there's discussion out there that maybe another reason he did it was to try to get his own party to support aiding ukraine and realizing that russia is a clear and present danger. obviously that's complete speculation and you're giving an informed view, but it does it does raise the questions about where that bill they'll is ukraine funding bill passed the senate bipartisan vote. you had a 22 gop senators supporting it. but in the house, you got enough and speaker mike johnson says he has no intention of bringing it to the floor. obviously, you want to get this done. you've been very clear about it from the very beginning, congressman do you see any possibility that senate bill ever passes the house >> well, erin, let's be clear, there are actually a lot of republicans, a lot of smart, reasonable republicans who care about our national security, who recognize that supporting ukraine today is an investment in our national security now. and for the future they want to support this as well. they want to vote on this bill. it's
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just the speaker who of course is controlled by these extremists in the republican conference, who refuses to bring it up for a vote. you know, he's worried that just by bringing it up to a vote for allowing democracy to work for us to actually do our job and vote yes or no on legislation shan he's worried he'll lose his job. >> right? that's the problem. >> congressman moulton, i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> good to see you, erin. all right. me to >> and next the breaking news, the special counsel tonight urging the supreme court to reject trump's efforts to delay as 2020 election trial that means of course, a ruling from the court could be imminent. plus new details tonight about the blame game erupting among biden allies president's legal and communications teams under fire after that scathing doj report, that question biden's memory >> introducing ned's black psoriasis. he thinks it's flaky
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public interests in a speedy and fair trial. then they also tell the give the court and options. if you do want to hear this case on the merits, can sidr this the petition to do that and have oral arguments in this case next month because they obviously want to go to trial before november. erin >> so kara, when dow is just hours trump's gonna be attending a major hearing in his hush money case in new york, where of course you are right now. you're going to be in the courtroom for that tomorrow. what are you expecting >> yeah. i mean, this is a crucial hearing and it's with all of it comes as all of trump's criminal cases had been colliding this week. we're expecting the judge to make some key rulings in this case, including the trial date we'll soon know if the first criminal charges against donald trump, the hush money case involving stormy daniel's will go to trial before the 2024 election. state felony charges filed last year in new york alleged she falsified business records to cover up a hush money payment to adult film actress stormy
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daniels, trying to stop her from going public about an alleged affair just days before the 2016 presidential election under new york state law, is a felony to falsify business records with intent to defraud and intent to conceal another crime. >> manhattan district attorney alvin bragg says, trump tried to interfere in the election, alleging he would do anything to reach the white house prosecutors allege the payment to stormy daniels was part of the catch-and kill scheme trump device with longtime friend and then national enquirer publisher, david, and executed by trump's former fixer, michael cohen, who pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations in 2018 i pled guilty in federal court two felonies for the benefit of at the direction of an in >> coordination with individual number one and for the record individual number one is
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president donald j. trump. >> the case involves a $130,000 payment cohen made to stormy daniels days before the 2016 election >> no >> prosecutors allege cohen and trump then plotted the cover up in the oval office cohen issued a series of false invoices to the trump organization saying it was for illegal retainer. and trump's and monthly checks for $35,000 reimbursing his former lawyer, according to the indictment, the trial l is scheduled to begin next month. if convicted, trump could face up to four years in a new york state prison. >> this was his >> first attempt to steal a presidential election based in back in 2016, when he wanted to suppress information from coming out and hide it from the election dritan, the voters. so it's a lower level felony, but it's still a felony. and he could get prison time if
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convicted, but it is not mandatory. >> the trial is a test for alvin bragg, a democrat, who's tenure is district attorney, has been met with criticism including his handling of this investigation. >> i bring cases when already having now conducted a rigorous, thorough investigation, the case was ready to be brought, and it was brought trump is expected to be in court tomorrow when the judge will make the decision of whether this march 25 >> trial date six in trump's suite not guilty to the 34 counts of falsifying business records and has denied any affair with stormy daniels, erin. all right, kara, thank you very much. and now to our battleground, syria he's looking at the effect of trump's legal troubles outfront. now, john king at the magic walls plural, waltzo. all right, john big moments in these legal cases are coming. and there is so much to keep track of here. i mean, sometimes, you know, you'd have to give a long sentence so people understand exactly what case it is that you're talking about. but it's now all coming
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to a head. >> it is. and qarrah, i think here's the right word, erin, a collision. a collision not only have all these legal cases with each other, but with the presidential campaign calendar, five cases. take a look here. federal classified documents case that trial will be in georgia, federal election interference case. that's based in dc, the georgia election interference case, obviously, fulton county, atlanta to new york trials, karen just mentioned the criminal trial, the hush money case in informed involving stormy daniels, and then that business fraud trial, which is moving along as well. the president already found guilty of fraud. the question so just how much will the judge says he have to pay. so you see all of those happening, erin, and they coincide right now, you have a presidential campaign calendar, right? the president won new hampshire, he won iowa. he wanted nevada. well, guess what, as he's trying to become the republican nominee and he's on a pretty good path to it right now. look at all of this going bang the president tonight, former president, a rally in south carolina is kara noted in new york, hush money hearing tomorrow probably get a trial date. there's also a georgia hearing. other defendants, not the former president, or trying to allege there's a conflict of interests between the da and her lead
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prosecutor. they say there's a personal relationship. they want that case either thrown out, are delayed in some way, that hearing tomorrow. a civil fraud ruling could come. how much does the president have to pay? hey, the trump organization have to pay that could come friday. jack smith's deadline was monday. he filed tonight. he's trying to move the supreme court along as quickly as possible on the question, does donald trump, because he was present at the time, have some blanket immunity? the special counsel moving that forward. and as we wait for all these legal developments, ten days from now, nine days from now, the south carolina presidential primary era. and it's all coming boom, all coming to a head. all right, so hearings essentially, every day you got a day or two. wow. yeah, maybe one or two days here and there where you don't and trump's going in a lot of these courtrooms, right? so he's going to be we anticipate in a courtroom tomorrow he's doing that by choice, but still going there and then going to rallies so will there be answers anytime soon >> maybe some answers about dates, maybe some answers about procedures. will this go away anytime soon in a word? no. and let's walk through some of
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that as you go through it, this is going to be with us for weeks and weeks and then likely months and months. and so let's just look up some dates to watch. forgive me for turning my back. just in march, we do expect unless something big happens tomorrow, that that new york felony criminal hush money trial will take place in march. guess what? there are 30 count 30, republican nominating contest playing out in that same month. so will the president being the courtroom, willy be going to michigan and california and somewhere else or back-and-forth there you have it. the classified documents case in florida is son post to start in may. that trial we'll see if that sticks. there's efforts to delay it by the trump team. but if it started in may, they think that'll be about a two-month trial. erin, two months. that would be may and june. guess what's in the middle of july? that's the republican national convention. if you think that's it. oh, that's a lot, but that's it. no, there's even more if you come up again, stretch this out for you we are still waiting for when will the georgia trial be when will the us january 6 case b. and we're waiting, of course, for the supreme court big ruling on presidential immunity. again, the special counsel wants that as soon as possible. and the question some
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states have raised, colorado particularly, should can you rule the president ineligible to be on the ballot because of january 6? so you have all these trials and you have some big questions for the supreme court. again, all is the campaign plays out. >> yeah, and those to be determined are perhaps the most important. >> but >> yet john trump has turned this so far into a political advantage, right? is not hurt him. in fact, when you get news of another indictment, it has helped him. so you've got 91 counts and you know, it helped him 91 times essentially. i mean when you look at how voters see this, is there a way to actually ascertain how people really feel about how how they'll vote if he is found guilty of anything so let's take that in slices one, the here and now and one a little bit looking forward in the here and now in the here-and-now, look, everyone knows all the voters know as they go to >> the polls in iowa and new hampshire in nevada and south carolina ten days the president faces it's 91 charges at all. what do you lumped these cases together and yet look at the
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trump bread. he won iowa convincingly. he wanted to hampshire convincingly he wanted to nevada caucuses convincingly. why? listen to these trump voters in iowa, in new hampshire, in nevada, in virginia, in iowa saying donald trump's being set up no, i don't i don't worry. i don't worry about those indictments. i don't think they're i don't think they're fair i think trump has been pushed into a corner. i think he's got he's got lots of targets on him and i think he's doing a great job of deflecting every one of them. >> person who is accused of something always has to prove t should be on state or the federal government, prove i'm guilty. that's where it should be in in public opinion. he has been tried dried. >> convicted >> and executed you know, >> it's like a which aren't from time to man got in there and, you know, if you went in
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or pardon himself and then resigning, went home, it won't bother me a bit. >> yeah. >> i won't leave any sleep over it. >> i think if we look at every single president or potentially politician, if you dig, you might find some things personally. i think the way they're going after him versus some of the other players doesn't seem to it's just doesn't seem to be imbalanced. but that's my personal opinion. >> so you hear it there, erin trump has persuaded his base, his voters. this is nothing thereafter me. they're out to get me and when they get me, they'll come for you. but if you look into the polling, there were some deep warning signs for the former president. look at this poll. this is our national poll. only 11% of republicans believe he acted illegally, but 80% of democrats do 45% of independents do after unethically, 40% of his own party. republicans say he was unethical democrats. they think it was illegal, so they don't call it an ethical, a lot of independents think it was unethical half of republicans say did nothing wrong, but almost no democrats or independents, tiny number. so this is what the biden campaign will use as a character issue
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come general election saying you cannot vote for this man. you think he acted illegally, you think he acted unethically. and so erin, one last point to bring up a number, these are the, these are among republican voters when you look at these numbers, this is the entrance polls going into the iowa caucuses does the exit polls in new hampshire primary, people who voted in republican contests, right? 31% in iowa said he's unfit, 42% of new hampshire said he's unfit. expect that number to go down. this is the day they voted for somebody else. that's what the biden campaign will try to take care of. you might think, i'm too old, you might disagree with my politics. you do not want this man back in the white house? >> we will say, and of course, until these rulings really come in, you never know how people feel, right? they're only telling you what they think they will feel. >> we just don't know. all right, john, thank you. >> and >> we have breaking news. cnn is learning a blame game is now engulfed. biden's administration after the special counsel's report that describe the president as an elderly man with a poor memory plus a woman makes a chilling discovery >> i'll just put it other i mean, i was intimate with my
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the president's handling of classified documents. the white house still reeling after the special counsel's report described the president as a quote, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. jamie gangel is outfront and jamie, what more are you learning? >> so what we're seeing here is the political fallout. erin is continuing, as you said, the blame game. and the fingers you're getting pointed at both his legal and his communications teams for what we're being told, we're missteps that everyone thinks made the political situation worse, that even though as you said, the special counsel declined to bring any charges, that the white house response was completely bungled politically. and it won't surprise you, erin, that a source close to the biden team pushed back on the criticism saying, quote, after a hostile prosecutor investigated the president for 15 months trying to find something to charge the
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biden legal team strategy ended with zero bro indictments and total exoneration. that is an unequivocal when end quote, nevertheless, aaron, the knives are out. >> it's, it's so amazing though what you say, jamie, is that getting zero indictments? should be a win, right? it should have been when it should have been a good day for the white house. and there were no charges filed. but then we were all sitting here, right. 730 eastern 15 minutes of presence is going to be coming out and speaking to reporters. >> no warning. and he >> comes out and he's angry, extremely angry, and there's been intense scrutiny us ever since. what are some of the specific things you and your team have uncovered about that? >> so no question. the decision to have that press conference in that way with reporters standing there was considered by is considered by a lot of people to have been a disaster on the legal side, look, the biden team felt and we reported
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on this that from day one, their mission was to cooperate, cooperate with the national archives, the fbi, and then the special counsel of course, in stark contrast to how former president donald trump handled his response to the classified documents case. but these are biden allies who say the legal team may have over cooperated by allowing the interview to be recorded allowing it to take place, right when president biden biden was also dealing with the aftermath of the october attack in israel. hindsight is 2020. but this isn't over erin, there are concerns that report those recordings. they're going to be released, there are real concerns about how it will read and sound yeah absolutely. >> and as you >> point out, i my understanding is right. those interviews were depositions where the eighth and ninth of october so literally in the hours. so he would not have
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>> two teenagers growing up in wallingford, connecticut suburb like any other where victoria hill met her high school boyfriend. >> this i think was junior here. >> obviously, you're dating here what vittoria didn't know then my husband and i tried for awhile and it wasn't working. >> well, this the infertility world, like back then, back then, everything was quiet. let's kissed, not really secret, secret, but it wasn't advertised. >> her mother merely hill turn to a new haven, connecticut fertility specialist, dr. burton caldwell. she says dr. caldwell told her he would inseminate her using an anonymous medical students sperm hill got pregnant. >> there's baye of me >> i kind of erased it in my mind that they weren't my husband's biological children until recently when victoria took a commercially available dna tests, curious about her health history to her shock, she found half-siblings. she never knew this is a stood one of them reached out revealing their biological father is dr.
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caldwell. >> when i opened it up, it basically just kind of put out there what you're seeing, some half siblings because we believe that the dr. did your mother's fertility treatment might be our biological father and i just i just remember sitting there just being like >> quiet. >> what is happening >> victorious high school boyfriend who asked his identity be concealed, was also donor conceived. his parents also use dr. caldwell boyfriend took a dna test. >> he texted me and it was a screenshot of the 23 and me connection. and it said you are my sister >> why? >> we're siblings >> so she continued to find more brothers and sisters all discovered through dna, all connected to dr. caldwell yeah. >> i've slept with my half
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sibling. there were four of us that we know of in the same high school and other half sibling, we went to the same elementary school and that's just in the 23 that i know are you going to go boom, you're going to my children have 41 first cousins that we know of most which are local to how many could there be >> victorious story is a worst-case scenario in the fertility field. the fda regulates sperm and egg donations but doesn't limit the number of donations nor the amount of offspring vastly behind some western countries with tighter controls. and when it comes to doctors using their own sperm without patient consent, there's currently no federal law and only 13 states with existing fertility fraud laws. >> i consider you guys sister, as you say, like half sisters, a lot more people than we know, struggle to conceive. and that's why all of our moms did what they did because they wanted they wanted babies. they would do anything for my kids sake. >> i hope you get the tall gene, victoria and to over half sister say they are caldwell's biological children are born
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within four years in the 1980s, it's only through commercial genetic tests that they can track their growing numbers. >> none of us knew and every single time it comes up, we end up having to relive what that experience was like. so jeanine, you went >> and saw dr. yes. >> you >> snapped a picture. why did you take a picture? >> i wanted proof, but i still when i see that picture, it's this sick feeling. i felt strongly that i had to meet him to make him and the whole situation real. you try to make it make sense. >> jeanine pearson filed a civil lawsuit against caldwell last year. it's all she can do for some sense of justice. >> we don't want this to happen to anybody else, right >> dr. caldwell stopped practicing sometime in the early 2000s but he still lives here in connecticut so we decided to stop. can see if we could chat with him okay.
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>> so i saw dr. caldwell. he appears to be frail, quite elderly. i chatted briefly with his wife, who did not want to talk the law is frankly way behind technology in this area >> attorney matt blumenthal represents victoria hill, her high school boyfriend, and hills mother. there are dozens of reported cases like this up other fertility doctors accused of impregnating their patients hundreds of offspring who only recently discovered the truth because of dna testing. >> it's been kept from them for so long. they can't do anything about it because the legal system may not provide them a remedy. >> it's insane to me that there's just no justice, there's no recourse. the reason why i'm telling this story. i mean, for me coping, i need to make meaning of this somehow, i am happy to be alive, but i don't want to be the product of a fraud and. >> victoria is trying to change things for other people. she is here in washington and tomorrow joined by activists, they will
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be on capitol hill talking to lawmakers, trying to make fertility fraud illegal in a federal bill air in this law has been written as proposed legislation that is sitting in the house. and they hope to have some success tomorrow we will follow them on their journey here. >> we did >> reach out the caldwell's attorney, aaron, he did not have any comment erin. >> all right. cowling. thank you very much >> thanks for joining us. king charles starts now moving forward with node positive breast cancer is overwhelming, but i never just found my way. i made it ended. all i could to prevent recurrence for his neo reduces the risk of recurrence friends of hr-positive her2, negative node positive early breast cancer with a high chance of returning as determined by your dr. when it added to hormone therapy, diarrhea is common, maybe severe, or cause dehydration or infection at the first sign, call your dr. started antidiarrheal and drink fluids before taking resenting, you tell your dr. about any fever chills are other signs of infection for is anya