shoot us in our homes that's actually one piece of advice from former us marshall jim shield to judges and prosecutors on how to protect themselves. in addition to disguising their home addresses, he advises them to always be conscious of their surroundings, especially when they're traveling to and from work and to stay away from social media. brianna, what a lot for them to take on as they deal with it? yes. if it's this isn't what they used to have to deal with brian. not at all. it's really dangerous for them. it's really never been more dangerous for judges and prosecutors especially incredibly alarming brian todd. thank you so much for that report. i'm brianna keilar in the situation room. we thank you so much for spending your evening with us erin burnett outfront starts right now >> outfront. >> next, breaking news, fani willis fighting back the fulton county da taking the stand and

our own defense, and ripping th we'll the judge let her stay on the case. plus trump's first criminal trial date is set beginning just weeks from now with a verdict in a criminal case as early as may michael cohen, central player in the new york hush money case will be outfront tonight new details this hour emerging about what may have caused the deadly mass shooting at the kansas city his super bowl celebration. i'll speak to a man who was shot along with his wife and child. what he saw just before the gunman opened fire. >> let's go outfront and good evening and welcome to a special edition of outfront. i'm erin burnett and the breaking news tonight. i'm ready to go. those are the >> exact words of a defiant fani willis. she is, of course, the georgia da overseeing trump's election interference case and she took the stand for hours today in a high-stakes hearing, which just ended a hearing that focused on her relationship with nathan wade, who is her top prosecutor in

the trump case. >> and it was a show >> trump and his allies, lawyers pride into salacious, deeply personal details and willis his private life. and willis did not back down, turning the tables on them how might feel it's like a woman doesn't have the right to keep our private life private. and i'm speaking on this because there have been all these intimations, you've been intrusive into people's personal lives. you'll confuse, you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. >> that is though exactly what trump's legal team wanted, which was to put willis on trial, hoping that if they can get her disqualified, that will sink her case, which is into election interference to try to overturn an election. now, to be clear, the allegations against willis are serious. if a person hire somebody, they're dating to help them financially using taxpayer money that is serious extremely series. it would be disqualified.

>> the team trump did not provide any evidence that will is did any of that and of course, we do know that willis only hired nathan wade after several others refused the job, but that did not matter when it came to the humiliating questions posed to willis today. >> yes when the romantic relationship ended, as the question that it's sometime in i'd say late summer of 2023, but i don't believe me because with this, what you really asking about this as the salaciousness of all of this, right? >> now i'm just asking about your romantic relationship when you stop dating >> i asked him i think that me and mr. wade so he's a man, he probably would say june or july i would say we had a tough conversation in office so that men in relationships that the end of physical intimacy women in relationships when that tough conference station takes

place, and where when did he come to, i guess the condo. i'm not sure what you call the condo apartment. >> would he >> come and stay at that condo or visit you there? i'm sorry. visit you there. >> what condo would apartment i want to be clear. >> so not your house. i know you classified one is house and one is conduct, so i'm trying to use those terms there has been more than what you don't understand is because of this case, i got to move. and so i could ask him more precise questions, please give me the time period that mr. wade visit you at the place you live? they'd your head. >> when >> has he ever visited you at the place you lay your head. so let's be clear because you've lied and let me tell you which one you loud and right here thank you. live right here. >> no, no, no. this isn't true, judge and a lot mr. santa. thank you. we're going to take five minutes >> trump's team is obviously trying to make the argument that willis financially benefited from the investigation into trump. it should be removed. but willis, again, testifying under oath, said that she did not need wade's money while discussing

the relationship did the forthcoming indictment have anything to do with that law? was it just a coincidence >> mr. let's go on ahead of the conversation. >> i've just asked you >> whether or not it was a co-winner had absolutely nothing to do with this. it's interesting that we're here about this money, mr. wade is used to women it as he told me one time, only thing a woman can do for him as make him a sandwich. we would have brutal arguments about the fact that i am your equal i don't need anything from a man. a man is not a plan. a man as a companion. and so there was tension always in our relationship, which is why i was give him his money back. i don't need anybody to foot my bills. the only man who's ever foot my bills? completely is my daddy >> is there anything else you'd like to add to that >> no. sure. i'm sure we'll talk about it further.

>> well, see what i said to be clear, what trump's team wants to discuss has nothing to do with the actual facts of the case here, right? the facts of the actual case, the heart of all of this is whether trump and his allies it's about election interference, but they repeatedly tried to overturn turn this election in georgia in 2020. nick valencia is outfront. he is live in atlanta to begin our coverage. nick, i think just from what we played there, anybody who didn't have a chance to watch throughout the day understands this was an incredible moment and it is not like something anybody in this country gets to see in a courtroom in a regular basis? a stunning day. fani willis takes the stand and all of this happens. you've got some new reporting. what are you learning now >> and it was stunning to see the da on the stand today and i just spoke to bishop reginald jackson, who spent the morning with fani willis before core. he prayed with her and he said he wanted to offer her words of encouragement and to him. he said fani woke up ready this

morning to testify, an eager to meet this head-on still, it was just so surreal to see the da up there taking questions from defense attorneys, fani willis went out of her way to say that she wasn't the one on trial, but there were certainly moments during today's hearing spring where it sure felt like it nothing very anxious to have this conversation with them today. i ran to the courtroom a defiant fulton county da fani willis, taking the stand today after weeks of fighting allegations that she personally benefited from our romantic relationships she had with nathan wade the special prosecutor. she hand-picked to spearhead the sprawling racketeering charges against donald trump and his allies >> i probably had some choice words about some of the things that you feel that we're honest within this motion? so i don't know that it wasn't conversation. as you know, mr. wade isn't southern gentleman. me not so much willis, >> not hiding her anger over the allegations. at what point being called a hostile witness by the defense.

>> i'm very much want to be here, so i'm not a hostile witness. >> well, both weight and willis have admitted to the relationship they had. they say it began and only after wade took the job, that timeline also a major point of contention in the hearing today before willis took the stand, the first witness of the day directly contradicted. wait. and willis is previous statements to the court. you have no doubt that there romantic relationship >> was in effect from 2019 until the last time you spoke with her? >> no. dow. >> that's three years earlier than with wade said in an affidavit, their relationship started, but wade holding firm to that date when he took the stand, when he 22 was the start of any intimate sexual relationship with the district >> attorney, as did willis. >> when did you start getting when i started dating mr. wade, it was right around then april 2020 22, 20 around the i don't know. like, you know, it's not like when you're in grade school, when you send a little

letter and it says, will you be my girlfriend and you check it. >> but then there's the money trail defense attorneys pressing on whether or not weighed paid for willis, where the two vacation together, trying to suggest that he used money he made from his taxpayer but did call it drag at the da's office on willis. both maintained that they split their vacation expenses. so >> all of the vacations that she took, she paid you cash for yes, ma'am. >> willis confirming the same in her testimony because we went out multiple times that probably went to the level of more than $100 but if we're doing for tat like that, i probably paid for as many meals as he paid for and so i did not receive any gifts from him. >> and at times forcefully pushing back with the defense attorney who first launch the allegations. >> these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial >> today's hearing got deep into the personal lives of both willis and wade with at one point, the district attorney

throwing nathan wade under the bus for allegedly making sexist remarks, willis, his testimony is expected to continue tomorrow in the 09:00 a.m. hour. but erin we are not expected to get a ruling anytime soon. it could be days. judge scott mcafee, who's presiding over this case, is not expected to make a ruling from the bench. erin. all right. >> thank you very much, nick, and incredible de hear. joe cohen is with me a former fulton county prosecutor. he knows both fani willis and nathan wade also with us, karen friedman, agnifilo so ryan goodman and laura coates, who is outside the fulton county courthouse. so dahra, let me start with you because you know, both of them and, you know, fani willis. well, did you expect her to get on that witness stand? and do what she did to be so defiant to push back time and time again. she didn't let anything go they're in this case, never ceases to amaze me. it's a case of first impression that that's lawyers like to say. but the reality is it's never happened before. and i watched fani walk into that courtroom and he was

walking in hot and she pushed back. i'm not at all surprised. i felt like we were watching a heavyweight fight or ashleigh merchant was swinging hard and finally was swinging back just as hard but the bottom line is, does it matter? does this take anything away from the facts of the case? my answer is it does not it's a sideshow that has legs for the moment. >> well, it's important i think, you know, you say that aside so that his legs for the moment and karen, from start to finish, willis called out. she clashed with the defense attorneys. let me just play some more examples, including some of the ones that we just briefly saw there this would be coming to me that the eu glide on monday. and yet here we still ought to lie. that's one of your lives. you've been intrusive into people's personal lives. you'll confuse, i'm not on trial. no matter how hard you try to put me on i'm on trial. no, no, no, no. this is a true judge and get a lot

>> we don't answer it since you said don't be cute with me. and then think that you're not going to get an answer. >> is there anger. justified? >> i think so. i think what was lost today was the legal standard that the defendants have to meet in order to get the case just get her disqualified from the case, which is is there an actual or perceived conflict of interest? one that would have to do with money and a relationship. but we didn't hear any of that. for example, we didn't hear anything about who approved of the vouchers that wade submitted and his time sheets and all of the things that you would ask if you're really trying to discuss the financial relationship and this just devolved into a salacious, private, deeply personal attacks on fani willis that just really seemed irrelevant to such an extent it was i

thought i thought that was a real sideshow and not a lot came out that would actually disqualify where they could have asked a lot of those questions, right? to establish that relationship. but but that none of that any attempt to do that, in fact, correct. seem to be any attempt and laura fani willis also brought up race multiple times during her testimony today. let me just play some of that when you meet my father he is until you as a woman you should always have, which i don't have. so let's don't tell him that should have at least six months in cash at your house at all, tom? i don't know why these old black man feels like that, but he does. the wade had a form of cancer it makes your allegations somewhat ridiculous >> i do >> appreciate the characterization emasculating black man, but i'm, i'm just telling you i'm sorry. what i'm not going to emasculate a black man. did you understand that >> laura, what did you make of

that? and how do you think that played with judge mcafee? >> well, clearly she was intimating >> something about their sexual interactions or lack thereof as a result of some physiological condition. but i think what's clear here they were trying to establish how to define a relationship and sort of the clinton ask, what is, is right, what is relationship wasn't romantic? and taking major, was it personal in nature? was it sexual in nature? there are many times during the course of the conversation where they seem to be skirting around the issue of what it meant to stay the night what it meant to be involved romantically, and she was quite direct eye different times during her testimony. but just think at the weight of this moment. erin, can you imagine? jack smith testifying on the stand while he has an active trial, an indictment against a former president, let alone over a dozen other defendant for an election subversion case, having to testify on the stand about his sexual relationships, and then

seek a jury who is going to be able to be he in and this matter, it's a really stunning development package, took the stand, was a little bit shocking because it seemed as though the judge appeared to be leaning against even forcing her to do so because he was saying, given the testimony you've already had today, please tell me what fani willis to provide them distinct from the testimony, what were the conflicts at issue here at the end of the day? keep in mind erin the standard by which you move to disqualify somebody on a conflict of interests is that their behavior, their conflict, their relationship is such an extensive thing that it would render it impossible to actually give a defendant if their trial. they didn't. ms average the through line today about where the monday was coming from and then there's a singular source or that she financially benefited and that's standard, right? as i said, lord didn't even seem that they tried, but it sounds like from what you're saying when you bring up the can you imagine this happening to jack smith? i mean, just to be very blunt about this, do you think

they were doing this because they felt that she was a target that they could could could hit in this way and disqualified because she's a black woman i think it had its elements of massage anwar, as we say to think about that very intersection, i think they assumed that she is a target. they want her to be i'm targeted in this way. she spoke about her safety concerns, right? certainly they're wanting to shame her as she has said, intimate that she had sexual relations with the man that very the first time she met her, there was a very offensive statement to her. she says they were trying to do i think that at the end of the day as you keep saying, the goal of this hearing does not appear to be i believed to find that through line, but it's trying to discredit them. and i think if you are a prosecutor in front of a jury eventually, do you want the jurors to looking for you? what's your counsel wondering about your sex life? no. you want the facts and the allegations and the evidence stand for themselves? >> that's right. it would appear ryan mean that's that's what they're trying to accomplish. if not, to actually

prove any kind of malfeasance or anything that would have her disqualified. but to humiliate and shame and impact the case. i mean, they did, you know, you'd have to prove as larson there's a through line, you'd have to prove that, she was dating in before she hired him just for this purpose so she could pay him off and they could get them all that. no attempt to prove that the only time they this even happened was a former employee testified willis and wade were involved much farther back than they have both testified to being under oath or any evidence exists of them being involved. and let me just replay play some of what she said >> the situation happened >> that wasn't my fault. and i was going to resign or be like, so you understood that that was the situation you could resign or you could be let go yes. you were not welcome to stay >> no >> so that's that she admitted to leaving the da's office on bad terms she admitted to that

and then she's the one making these allegations this is the only witnesses as even offering to try to say that this started earlier >> is this legitimate? >> it's not a very strong basis. and in fact, funny wellness at one point even says one witness does not make for a disqualification and the witnesses not that good. so she didn't have very many specifics. i wouldn't say many shouldn't have specifics. yes, she had none. yeah. like when did when did you hear about this? don't remember. when did it start exactly. don't remember where were you when you heard about it? don't remember what exactly did you see even at that end point when they get to the idea that she was in fact told she would be fired if she didn't quit, she had to kinda be forced into that because first she was just like i don't want to explain it. i don't want to say that i wasn't necessarily told him that did well at the end, i was told it. well that's the problem. and so you would have even thought that the other side would have introduced that evidence first because they know it's there, but they didn't. so i think she's going to be discredited in all likelihood tomorrow. she's not already it's not as strong case for them. it's all they've got. >> do you think it was smart that fani willis took the stand? chose to do it at when

she first got on the stand. i wasn't so sure it was smart, but i actually thought that she was so raw in a way that it came across as very truthful, very credible. and it was powerful. and in some ways, i think what was happening is as you described it, the optics were she was on the stand and then she flipped that back and said, i am not write cases the case. all right. all >> stay with me because our coverage continues here. one person we are learning watching fani willis and her hearing very closely is the manhattan district attorney, our paula reid, working horse. her sources yes. some new details coming into out front and the date is now set in trump's hush money trial that is now set to begin in just weeks. a verdict expected, possibly this spring and a crucial witness in the case, michael cohen is gonna be here with me tonight also, new details emerging about who police have in custody after the deadly mass shooting at the kansas city chiefs super for both celebration, as there is a vigil this hour honoring the victims >> erin burnett outfront is presented this it's thursday

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disqualified from the case as early as next week? no. look, a ruling in that way would have massive implications. it would set georgia's criminal trial for trump back months or even longer. and one person who should be watching this hearing very closely as the manhattan district attorney alvin bragg, who right now has the first criminal trial for trump on the calendar. our chief legal correspondent, paula reid, is outside the courthouse here in new york, where a judge just ruled that bragg's case will move forward. obviously, paula, on march 25th, so what should brag be watching for >> well, erin, of course, we're all watching today. what was going on in georgia. but for bragg, it could be especially significant because in just a few weeks in the courthouse right behind me, he and lawyers performance from president trump will be selecting a jury for that first criminal case against the former president. today they were in court sparring with the judge about what they should be asking potential jurors, political affiliation, what news they watch any far right groups they

may be associated with? >> and >> trump made it clear in court today that his defense is going to be that he has been targeted by politically motivated, corrupt prosecutors. now, one of the problems for bragg is that the georgia case is the most similar to his these are both state-level prosecutions brought by elected district attorneys and they focus on allegations of election her firenze. so depending on what happens down in georgia, even if willis is a disqualified, i mean, it's a messy situation. it is a spectacle. this could be something that he has to ask potential jurors about. have you seen this? what do you know about it? what do you think of it? it doesn't mean that he can't win his case, but this could be a factor in that difficult task of jury selection. and erin, it's just a reminder that what happens down in georgia has a ripple effect on these other cases. not only actually in the courtroom, but also in the court of public opinion, which is of course where candidate trump is most worried absolutely. >> and the form

>> that, that matters so much in all of these cases to for these juries, paula, thank you very much. paul, of course, in new york, where that hearing was today. and of course, everyone's back with me now. so daryl, as we've said, you know, the judge here, you know, scott mcafee in the georgia case and now you've see what we've seen today. obviously, fani willis, so you back on the stand tomorrow. >> but do you >> think that that he's going to disqualify her from everything we heard today. >> if i were in vegas, i would take odds of about 1,000 to one that he will not disqualify her. and unlike vega's, what stays in georgia, what happens in georgia doesn't stay in georgia. i don't see her being disqualified. what i do see is what happens to morrow, what happened today? it's going to be a microcosm of what's going to happen in the future. fanis office, nathan wade, if he stays is going to be under a microscope. and this is not going to be the first and the

last. it's going to be the first of many things that are unforeseen. and it's going to take on a life of its own. i don't know how we're going to make his go away it's disappointing. i don't like any part of this trials, a trial facts are facts and fani didn't make some of the right decisions. but what she said and how she testified was terrific today regardless of what i may think, either way. >> so karen, that the thing here though is that if she's disqualified, obviously that sets this back massively and that is that that is huge decision. but even if she isn't, this is now out there in the ether. in the ether of public opinion, in the ether of a potential jury, how significant is that? because maybe that was the very close second goal of the trump team and pursuing this to begin with, right? >> i mean, what we had today was a televised hearing. right? so the whole world could see this and could watch it and watch all these details, which doesn't typically happen,

right? you're not going to see the same thing in the manhattan da case or federal cases, but it's unique to georgia where they televise everything. and so you're right, that potential jurors could have watched it and formed an opinion about the prosecution or about whether or not they believe trump is being targeted, et cetera. and so it's just another point that i think the prosecutors and the manhattan da case, we'll keep in mind when they're doing there for deer and asking questions to make sure that they are still fair and impartial to both sides. >> so it's so hard as paul is going through all the questions law that they're going to be asking such personal questions of potential jurors. now, i know that the judge in georgia law does everyone rotation at times for ruling from the bench as and making a very quick decision that is not anticipated in this case, they say perhaps as early as next week to actually get a decision and fani willis. but when you watch the judge today, he did not hold back at times for admonishing both sides here he is he never came there.

>> okay. >> so if you don't come someplace, >> you can live there as well. >> so that's what i have to caution. you gonna be my first time out to caution good to listen to the questions as and if this happens again and again, i'm going to have no choice but to striking testimony. mr. gould, you can sit down now >> i don't believe she answered that question. she answered as to specific individual gifts i'm dr. count, and you're not listening to my answer either. so we're done very well >> very calm and how he handles it. laura, but what do you think when you hear those admonishments, do you think fani willis will be disqualified or not? i don't think they've met their burden of proof to disqualify her based on the conflict of interest that would go to whether the defendants could have a fair trial trial. but i do think what you saw was a judge who is increasingly impatient because you heard people being very redundant. remember, there wasn't just the one attorney bringing the case.

he was different defendants who then wind to have their bite at the apple through their own defense council, trying to make sure that they had a chance to make their case, as well as they had a lot of overlap that just tired of that, there's one moment in time when they were trying to establish prior inconsistent statements that nathan wade had made, and the judge essentially said, look i get it. this now goes to the weight of the evidence, the volume no longer about whether this in fact was inconsistent. so he seemed to have gotten it a great deal. but in terms of the riskier and the weight of all this, erin it is not an easy decision if they disqualify her, if the whole team a difference, a different and subsequent prime that's the qishan team would have to be established. who has no need or requirement to follow the indictment or anything else. >> right. and that at basswood set it back dramatically >> ryan, you >> briefly mentioned, but i wanted to give you a chance to explain. i know it first, you weren't sure if fani willis going on the standard was the right thing and then you were saying noticed, of course, the

incredible emotion that she showed raw emotion and was sort of like, all right, if you're gonna be talking about my sex life, i'm going to get really personal. i'm going to just open it all up and talk to you. do you think that that worked? >> i think it really did. i think she came across as totally human and the wrongness of it was genuine. so i purchased him just credible. and when she was making statements about her life and explaining it, it came across various other i mean, everything about it, father, why she uses cash when she moved into a particular apartment and the fact that nobody visited her cause was a lonely year, which actually just takes out some of the allegations against her. i think it came across very strong at the end of the day because she came on there as herself. >> all right. thank you all very much. and i want everyone to know laura will be back tonight with laura coates, live at 11 and outfront next, trump's historic first criminal trial date is set. it is just weeks away. the hush money trial is set to begin. and next, key witness, michael cohen will join me. does he have any doubt that trump will

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exceptionally stink free and smell as good as humanly possible. >> hi, melanie zanona on capitol hill. >> and this is cnn >> tonight, trump's first criminal trial is quickly approaching. trump today, admitting the quiet part out loud about his strategy in the new york hush money case. and frankly, in all of his cases we want delays. obviously, i'm running for election >> the new york case stems from trump's payments to a porn star. and today a judge refused trump's effort to toss the case, setting a date for the trial to begin on march 20, which of course is right in the

middle of the election calendar, just a few weeks after super tuesday according to the judge, the case could take about six weeks. so if trump is convicted, that would happen possibly in may, right when trump's classified documents trial as of now, is set to begin outfront. now, a key witness in the new york hush money case, the former trump attorney, michael cohen. he is the author of revenge, how donald i'll trump weaponized the us department of justice against his critics. and he is now the host of two podcasts. may a culpa and political beatdown. all right, michael, the trial right now no delays, no throwing it out. judges said it's going ahead on march 25th, year a key witness. so are you ready to once again be in the same room with trump and to testify? >> yeah. i had no problem the last time at the new york attorney general's case of being in the same room as donald. i'm not the only one who has said this i felt nothing. there's no intimidation by him. he's the one that's sitting at the

defendant's desk, not me. i'm just merely a witness and a subpoenaed witness. so i will be there because i'm under subpoena but not because you want to or you're eager to just go in, you're going because you have nobody wants to do this. this isn't fun. likud. well, for example, with fani willis today, they get personal, they get nasty and i expect mine to be as nasty if not nastier than the questions that were thrown at fani willis today. >> so when trump walked into the hearing today, i just played them, but i'll quote him again. >> we want delays. obviously, i'm running for election >> okay. everyone knows that's what they're trying to fiscal years now. so do you have any doubt that he will be convicted in this case, the hush money case, and stormy daniels. >> so knowing the cases, i do this is a very simple case and i agree with judge michelle. this is not even a six-week case. i would say at best it would be a four-week case my understanding is that on the trump side, they only have one

witness and maybe there's ten on the prosecution. sayyed, this case could and should be over in a month with a decision. >> and do have any question about whether he'll be convicted? >> oh, i believe based upon the information that i know and based upon not just the documentary evidence, but the corroborating testimony from so many people, i believe that he will be found guilty on all charges. >> all right, so the nuts and bolts here, this is obviously the first case to go as we know, first-base case to move forward. so if trump is convicted, it could be hugely significant. the monmouth poll that came out today showed a trump wins the republican nomination, but is convicted of a crime before the party convention this summer, which would be the case in this case if he's convicted, right. because he'd already have enough delegates to be nominated. but the convention wouldn't happen. >> 58% of >> registered voters say he should be removed from the ballot only 38% change should be on the ballot but this case,

michael, is a challenging one less, many experts say, look this, what could be the hardest one because in part of district attorney alvin bragg himself and thinks he said when he was running for his job, he infamously said this i'd be hard to argue fact that that's that'd be the most important, most high-profile case. and i've seen him up front and seeing the lawlessness that he could do. >> you believe it should happen? >> i believe we have to hold them accountable >> the he is trump. >> yes. >> okay does that have caused problems possible at this case, backfires. voters say, well, that guy was biased to begin with, and it taints the case why would that be a disqualifying factor >> the jury >> of donalds peers will make the determination not alvin bragg. it's merely his office that brought the case. they brought the case based upon legitimate illegal actions, illegal behavior done by

donald. so it's going to be a trial no different than if it was you, me or anybody. and as a result, the decision will be in the hands of the jurors, not in the hands of alvin bragg. i don't think it makes a difference at all. >> do you do you think it's possible though? i mean, 91 indictments every single time it appears trump's poll numbers go up. that even though people say if he's convicted, that they wouldn't be okay with that, that that he may be able to sway the court of public opinion in this case. claim bias and lo and behold, they say they wouldn't vote for him, but they would. >> so you know, me, i don't believe in the polls. i've oh, i know you've had my helmet skepticism, right? i have very healthy skepticism when it comes to these polls. and proof-positive is just look at all of the special elections, look at what we just went through and district three, look at what took place in sylvania these are democrats that are winning. i do believe that at the end of the day

americans, whether republican, democrat, or independent care more about democracy? over autocracy >> they >> want less chaos. and they want more from our politicians acting on behalf of all america, not on behalf of just one guy. and i think that that's where the polls showed and why democrats won. yet again >> and it was obviously was a significant way. now now it depends attorneys for trump brought up your testimony today in the last civil fraud case, according to a court transcripts, trump's attorney said, how can we possibly go to trial when there's a witness referring to you who committed perjury two months ago across the street, this office should be investigating him now we do understand that the district attorney's office is investigating allen weisselberg, former cfo of trump org. obviously, you know him well off or perjury in the same trial, have you had any discussions with anyone in the da's office about perjury, know >> no. just because donald says something doesn't mean that it's factual. there's no perjury the statements that

they made. the second that they went running out in order to oh, we want our case, we want our case. no, you didn't. and even the judge acknowledged that what they were saying is inaccurate. they took one sentence out of like a 55 page document. right. and instead of instead of providing the additional information on that one sentence, they only wanted to use that one sentence to prove their case. a say, a piece of saying doesn't make a beach and that's what trump's attorneys are trying to do here. >> all right. michael cohen. thank you very much. it's always good to see you. >> and of course we know you'll be testifying again soon. next kansas city police have two people in custody, but who actually fired the shots during the mass shooting at the chiefs super bowl celebration. i'm going to speak to a man who was shot along with him his wife and child all shot. what he saw just before the gunman opened fire. plus an update to cnn's investigation to opportunity dr. who allegedly duped multiple women by him pregnant

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shots. two teenagers are currently in custody and in just a moment, i'm going to speak with a father who was shot. his wife also shot his 13 year-old son also shot all three are out of the hospital and recovering but first, whitney wild is outfront with the latest on this investigation >> a day after it, kansas city super bowl rally erupted in gunfire, new details are emerging about the people being held by police and the terrifying moments that led to one person killed and more than 20 hurt, including half of them children. >> i'll unit thank you with that shooter. >> kansas city police say wednesday shooting was the result of a personal dispute in the area, not an attack of terror on the celebration >> preliminary investigative findings have shown there was no nexus to terrorism or homegrown violent extremism case, >> cpd detained >> three people, including two juveniles. the third person was let go after police determined there was no connection to the

shooting, law enforcement also recovered several firearms. >> we have nine gunshot wounds. >> the 22 victims age range between eight years old and 47 years old. at least half of our victims are under the age of 16 >> lisa lopez-galvan, a local dj and mother of two, was tragically shot and killed. she's remembered by the radio station she volunteered at as an amazing person who gave so much to kk f phi, and the kasie community at lisa leaves behind an incredible legacy. she comes from a very large family of civic leaders actively and regularly engaged in both the latino community or kansas city, to her friends and family we are with you and we are >> working tirelessly to invest the gate her murder witnesses were called the chaotic scene

wednesday were an estimated 1 million people gathered and celebration of the kansas city chiefs back-to-back super bowl wins. >> and all of a sudden and you're like holy cow, what was that? and then all the cops come running out of the building. there were running in the building your first nauta running out of the building. and then they tell us to go go so nothing something you want to be never. >> there are several accounts of chiefs players, and personnel comforting fans and the mayhem, including cornerback luxurious sneed. he told espn he was surrounded by children while seeking shelter in a basement, saw the koch named in that situation is totally everything's ok. no, just rubbing it back in history this will be far later. they're trying to celebrate, though something a bigger calls to mitch for us and we just charged to celebrated with them in for that to happen. >> erin, we're here at a vigil for lisa lopez-galvan, as well as the other people who were injured in this tragic shooting up very close friend of hers just spoke and said that they are hoping for the public to give their prayers to this

family that that would be so appreciated. justice, obviously so crucial in this moment but law enforcement still working through the evidence, as you mentioned, the ballistics are very critical to this investigation is a law enforcement source, tells cnn's josh campbell that they're continuing to walk through that, figure out which guns might've been used. and if there are any other guns that are still outstanding, meaning trying to figure out if there any other people involved who might be at large, erin. >> all right. whitney, thank you very much at that vigil and kansas city tonight jacob jacob goods joins us now, jacob was shot along with his wife and his 13 year-old son at the super bowl rally and jacob, look, i honestly it's hard to have words you go to this to celebrate and this horrific thing and trauma happens to your family. i'm so glad that you're out of the hospital, your families out of the hospital. and i want people to know what you went through. bones in your footer broken because you were shot. your son has a bullet still lodged in his foot. your wife was shot in her calf. how are all of you even feeling right now

>> it's crude. it's just mind-blowing his career. yeah. i mean, it's it expressing their feelings in words is just near impossible, right now but i mean, it's just, it's scary can't. even fathom something like this happening to you. you know, it happens but you never expected to happen either, you know >> is currently there are no words so as you're trying to even process what happened and now you're recovering. and of course dealing with your young child and i can only imagine how that is for you and your wife you were standing on the left side of the stage and you see a group of people dressed in black and the crowd. and i know then jacob that you got a bad feeling so it can you try to explain what you saw, what you heard before the shooting actually started >> i mean, i'm i don't want to get to accidentally mentioned that in an interview earlier,

and i don't want to get too involved with my suspicion is on the people dressed in black because i don't know who it was. >> right. but, >> as it were walking out, what i'd seen was a lady or i didn't see, but i heard a lady saying to a man, not now and this isn't the place. and then the gunshots in the gunshots went off. and i didn't know that they were gunshots. i thought i was looking for fireworks. i'm looking down i felt the debris flying up at me and then i'm hit and i look at it and smoke coming out of my ankle and i'm still thinking fireworks as people are rushing towards my god, i turn to try to and i go straight down, trying to call out of there across i can't even imagine you looked down and to see that it's >> whether you even felt this embodied or what and then your wife and your child your son,

and then your daughter actually saw a gunman firing so when did you realize that the others in your family were hit >> oh man, i mean, like okay. so as i was crawling up, realizing i've just been shot a couple of people came out to me saying what's going on. i told him i'm hit get down, get away, and my girl came up to me at that point and i told her i was hit and she said, you know, where's our son? where's our kids >> and i didn't find out my other son. i've been hit to a we got to the hospital and got the x-ray because he just had a tiny cut on the bottom of its, but we assumed from losing his crocs and running around the socks on but it was a bullet bullet that i understand is still still lodged. there >> jacob. thank you so much for talking. i know words don't yet exist for you to even express or explain this i hope that

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school boyfriend texted me and it was a screenshot of the 23 and me connection. and it said you are my sister why >> were >> siblings all tracing to one biological father, dr. burton caldwell >> the tories mothers fertility dr. from the 1980s, who used his sperm instead of a donors. >> even if my children have 41 first cousins that we know of most which are local. >> so how many could there be all connected to dr. caldwell? >> yeah. >> her life the result of alleged fertility fraud >> people who perpetrated they don't practice reproductive medicine. their predators. >> these three members of congress are among four dozen who have signed onto the legislation with plans to head to the senate >> i'm incredibly thankful for you on your stories because i think that lens what we're trying to do and not for one second. did i ever think when i

went through my ivf journey? that, something like that could have possibly happened. i thought that there was already legislation in place to have my story all over national while television is kind of terrible, however knowing that it's actually doing something, it's actually making meaning and we're actually using it push the legislation has been huge >> even if this proposed legislation eventually becomes law, victoria knows that this may not affect dr. caldwell because he is quite elderly and he is ill. she's doing this for other people, erin. and as far as dr. caldwell, while we did go visit him there's connecticut home. he did not want to talk and his attorney had no comment >> aaron young. thank you so much. it would be incredible though. gosh, if you could prevent those things from happening again, that would be doing good in the world. all right, killing. thank you so much and thanks so much to all of you as always for being with us ac360 begins now