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for watching newsnight. laura coates live starts right now a tale of two courtrooms, okay. maybe three. >> and what it all means in the race for the white house tonight on laura coates live all right, there's no legal drama. you probably ever seen that could match this moment. and today. but this is no real housewives of the courtroom. this is much, much bigger than all of that. the fulton county district attorney, fani willis suddenly surprising there she is popping up in front of the camera, just about everybody striding to the courtroom to take the stand today in atlanta, in the middle of a hearing of whether she should be disqualified from the georgia election subversion case, and firing back frankly, with both barrels hi, object to
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you getting record to van intrusive into people's personal lives. you're confused, you think i'm on trial these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. >> i'm as not all her fiery testimony about her romantic relationship with the prosecutor, nathan wade was my ctv we would have brutal arguments about the fact that i am your equal. i don't need anything from a man. a man is not a plan, a man is a companion and so there was tension always in our relationship, which is why i was give him his money back. i don't need anybody to foot my bills, don't only man who's ever put my bills completely is my daddy. >> now as riveting as her testimony and it was riveting as riveting as it was i don't want to lose track about why they were in that courtroom and what this is all about. i mean,
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the sprawling georgia election subversion case over unprecedented alleged efforts by the then president of the united states to overturn the 2020 election in georgia. and now trump and his co-defendants, the remaining ones who have not pled guilty are trying to remove the da and also get the entire case possibly dismissed. it's going to continue to an end tomorrow. but 09:00 a.m. for part two and of course, that brings us to the other big case today, the so-called other white meat. donald trump and the adult film star, a judge throwing out his attempt to dismiss the new york hush money case. and they have set a trial date and its next month. and it's march 25th. and matt is the trial date by which it's time for a president could already be the presumptive gop nominee. by the way, only in trump world could a case that might cost him 370 million bucks be an afterthought. >> but here we are, america
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case number three donald trump might just find out tomorrow how much a judge will order him. and by the way, his business to pay for what fraudulently inflating his financial statements that's the latisha james case, the ag in new york. and she is asking for a whopping $370 million. but let's just start where we began with fani willis taking the stand during me now, we're not a mariotti, a former federal prosecutor and host of it's complicated podcast james shelter if former trump white house lawyer and portray salton, an attorney and professor at george washington law school. i'm glad to have all of you here today. first of all, raise your hand. if you were surprised to see fani willis suddenly appear in your screen to testify. here's my hand going up. i probably can't see all of yours, but i know they're all there. jim schultz, you to i see it. it's all happening. no one can be, no one can deny it. all right,
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we're not there you go. thank you for trees. renato, i'll begin with you because you were the first to raise your hand it was a dramatic day today in georgia and the big question here, of course, is, and the question why they were actually there was not about the salacious details, but whether she financially benefited from this relationship, did they make that connection for you? >> not at all. and that's the thing this is. i'm sure very cathartic for the defendants. look a lot of defendants would love to have their lawyer cross-examining the prosecutor rarely happens, but there's a lot of smoke and not much fire here. a lot of salacious detail. but ultimately the question here is whether there's a conflict of interest i don't think they prove that here. i mean, there is something to the fact that there was a lot of payment in cash. right. so that there were some questions early on. okay. why is she saying that she paid him back in cash in era where most people are using venmo or zelle or something like that. >> but >> she answered that and that
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was i think a very powerful part of her testimony explaining your new play. a clip a minute ago, laura, of why she has that money, why she pays back a man she's dating, and also why she has cash and something that her father it's hotter, so i thought it was powerful. i just do not think that this is going to ultimately end up helping the defendants where it matters in terms of getting being a disqualification. >> i mean, portrays on that point the way that you get a disqualification, you've got to show a conflict of interests. but it has to actually go to the defendant's ability to get a fair trial, that the connection as well as the financial payment and reimbursement. and of course, the benefit and that through line. but a lot of the testimony today of nathan wade centered on these cash reimbursement that willis made for things like vacations, late expenses. but here is he is explaining why there was no record of these payments i did not deposit the cash america. >> you don't have a single
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solitary deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by mrs. willis and cash. >> do you no, sir. >> not a single >> solitary one. not a one >> i wanted first of all, countries, how you, how you viewed his demeanor, his bilingual, it could probably read both ways, maybe to a jury. but was he persuasive in that moment? >> you know, i didn't >> hear anything today that sounded like recusal was required or that sounded like the defendants in this case, we're prejudiced, but i did hear from both witnesses some bad choices being made, and i think we should want our prosecutors to we'll be beyond reproach and instead of focusing on the case at hand, the court is now dealing with this sideshow and this is especially troubling at a moment in time and in a case where the integrity of our
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institutions is being challenged there is a question about whether what happened here was legal or lawful, but i think there's also a question about whether it was wise whether it was avoidable, and today's hearing did not make me proud of our legal profession in that regard. >> i think unwise and avoidable are the ways you could characterize as entirety of all that we are seeing today. and yet, does it go to his qualification? i mean, james i gotta tell you, i have been a prosecutor for trees. renato do is we all have in terms of being in trial attorneys, when you go before a jury, the very last thing you want your jurors to think about is your sex life. let's just be real here. you'd be looking at you, giving you the evidence, trying to tell them the arguments through count through the actual witnesses and they're wondering about your motivations. they're wondering about your personal and private life. i mean, that's not what you ever want
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to happen yet here we are, james. and in this moment you've had this notion of fani being very angry from the outset because she was i'm sure recognizing this very moment in time and how this is being and presented. listen >> as he ever visited you at the place you lay your head. >> so let's be clear because you've lied and this doesn't tell you which one you loud and right here. thank you. live right here >> no, no, no. >> this is a true judge and get a lot >> they lie >> what did you make of her entire testimony? >> look, i think this entire situation right former litigator, i agree with the right. you gotta get before a jury has to be credible before that jury. and this whole thing is just really messy, right? really messy. and a lot of bad
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decisions. and it starts with one thing that was pointed out, did you disclose any of the steer co-counsel in the case? the answer wasn't affirmative. no >> did she have an opportunity at one point in time once they had this romantic relationship and it was acknowledged, there's there was one witness said it began earlier. she says it began later, but once it began, she had an opportunity they say, look, it's time for him to go, right. it's time for him to not be on this case anymore. it's not like he was a hot shot prosecutor that had tried a bunch of cases and brought a lot and brought a lot to the case to begin with. so why is he there? that all those questions need to be raised, but then you have this whole issue of the cash, right? and i don't think she did a very good job explaining that. i think she went on tangents at times and when she went on tangents, she didn't help herself. she talked about taking out a bunch of money during your campaign and use that money to the as a kept that money as cash. and that's
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why she had so much cash. she spent a lot of time explaining while she why she had the cash. i kinda disagree with renato on that. i think >> you want to play questions weren't asked. hold i get i want to play for you what she said, and i want to get your action because i don't know that everyone listening today understood why there was such a focus on the bash. listen to what she said >> we would run up. my daddy had three safe enough my father's bought me a lockbox and i always keep cash in the house for many, many years. i have kept money in my house that money in my worst days has probably only been 500 or thousand dollars at my best days, i probably had $15,000 in my house and kate cash at all times, there's going to be cash in my house or wherever i'm so james, on that point because he's talking about the background that you were alluding to. but why is there an emphasis from the council bringing this as
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qualification action against her? why do you think they're so focused on the amount of cash or the presence of cash here because they're trying to establish to this judge that it's just not a credible defense in this case, right? that it's not credible at all. i'll quote, when i took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, i kept some of the cat i kept some of the cache of that is her quote that just smacks. now you have is she talking about campaign cash? is she talking about hurkacz? i mean, it just muddies the whole situation because all to defend a relationship where he's going, she's going on trips with folks and, you know, izzat believable that she's paying that money back. that's what they're trying to establish in front of that, judge. is that it's not a credible it's not something that is credible that a careful prosecutor in that matter, where you have a relationship with someone who's working on your team, you should be crossing every t and dotting every i she
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certainly didn't do that here. >> let me go back to you, patrice. i ms i mean, as our resident defense counsel expert, who's been more than a thorn in the side of many a prosecutor myself included. i think i still have some pain in my side from you girl and thinking about it, it is not on fani willis to be the one to proceed and bring this motion, right? this is not her burden of proof to actually suggest that she didn't, but she does need to answer for it according to the judge who called this hearing allowed it to go forward. when you look at what they had to show that it would go to the prejudice and the inability of the defendants in this case what are they lacking >> i think there's very little there so far and the testimony has not concluded. so maybe there's more there for us to learn later. but so far there really wasn't anything that showed a prejudice to the defendants based on the testimony that was elicited about the nature of the relationship and the funds that
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they spent together as a couple on one another. but to your point earlier, it's the credibility of this person matters when they are going to be in front of a jury trying this case later. and that's why we have i've standards of credibility for ordinary people and a heightened duty of candor for prosecutors. and we have outside of the legal rules that are at issue today, we have ethical rules that really encouraged prosecutors to err on the side of disclosure, we have aba standards that would suggest that this is something that should have been shared with other people in the prosecutor's office. and on the team that's working on this case. and there really hasn't been any about that was done and would hate for the jury to be distracted by that when they're supposed to be deciding something else >> well, on that point, we're not oh, they have both said it was what? it was. >> private not a secret. trying to draw that let's take their distinction today to suggest that they were just private people who whether her
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notoriety within georgia cause them to be all the more reclusive in their expression or not while they, in fact, we're in relationship. the judge, though, let's talk about this, judge, because the judge was pretty frustrated at points today with not only defense counsel, but also with fani willis. >> listen to listen to the questions as and if this happens again and again, i'm going to have no choice but to strike your testimony. >> letter sent >> you're not going to talk to answer that the question, let's keep going. >> we've covered this. let's move on. >> he still unanswered the question as well as i'm sorry, what was the question in, your honor? >> i don't think >> mr. sadow next question, trying to, your honor. all right. mr. mcdonald, you can sit down now. >> i don't believe she answered that question, your honor. she answered as to specific individual gifts >> and you're not listening to my answer either. so we're done i mean, we're out. firstly, i don't think that he was even leaning to force her to testify before she walked into the courtroom. >> but as
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>> anyone helped by this judge's reactions, obviously there are poking a bit of a bear here you know, i actually think the judge did a great job today held both sides to a high standard, took them to task, made sure to try >> to force both sides to ask good questions to listen to his rulings, and to ultimately not retread ground that had already been treaded early clare in the hearing. so i thought he did a very good job ultimately, laura, he's creating a great record here i mean, candidly, we all agree everyone in this panel agrees that maybe fani willis, mr. way, didn't make the best choice here, but ultimately the legal standard is we've all discussed is very high and they're not really that close to it. and ultimately, he is giving the defense a lot of rope to ask a lot of questions. but when they keep asking the same questions over and over and it's apparent that they're not make their points are not going to get to where they need to go in this motion. he is doing a very good job of shutting things down
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because as you pointed out in the beginning, this is basically desperate housewives sort of thing, right? this is a real ultimately a salacious salacious hearing that's going to potentially influenced potential jurors. so once we get past the useful point of this it's his job to shut this down so that ultimately we don't have further taint that's on a jury pool because first of all, i need you to know desperate housewives and then the real housewives were not one was starring eva longoria. the other one is because we're in georgia, nene leakes. okay. i said what i said. thank you so much, everyone, please stick around. we have more to talk about and all these bags, coming up. the man who says fani willis woke up, ready to testify and meet it head on. the bishop who prayed with her this morning is next >> nothing very anxious to have this conversation than today i ran to the courtroom united.
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did you tell only pay for what you need >> lucky. >> i'm evan perez in washington. and this is cnn it was the moment that stopped everyone in their tracks >> omega >> okay. so >> the position of the district attorney at this point is that she's no longer contesting the subpoena. ms merchan's callers next witness? >> the camera was even ready for when she appeared. i'm sorry, it was always an out of focus for a second because i didn't expect you to be right there and a defiant and fiery fulton county district attorney, fani willis, took to the witness stand, hitting back at misconduct claims, it could threaten the very future of the election subversion case in georgia and her oversight of it is ridiculous to me that you lied on monday. and yet here we
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still ought to lie. that's one of your lives. you've been intrusive into people's personal lives. you'll confuse, i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. no, no, no, no. >> this is a true judge good he has a lot >> we don't answer it since you said don't be cute with me. and then think that you're not going to get an answer. >> i'm not sure if they were ready for her i want to bring in the person who met with da willis before court began today, ami bishop, reginald t. jackson. bishop. thank you so much for being with me this evening. you say that the da willis she woke up ready to testify today? what was going through her mind, her demeanor this morning, what did she tell you >> well, i think from more than a month, she's endured this and i think this morning when she came to the courthouse, she was ready for whatever happened and i think she demonstrated at the court when she came, man, that she was more than ready.
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she was eagerly waiting this opportunity to respond to all this been saying, i mean, bishop and so you i was surprised that she took to the stand because there had been opposition to her doing so and then she appeared thank i'm ready to go. and yet, bishop, she's got a lot on the line disqualification potentially pending as it concern you that today's testimony in its entirety between nathan wade to herself, to a former friend are there concerns about its implications on her credibility and standing in the community >> but what we've seen over the last month is really an effort to destroy her reputation. and in fact, it's important for the people to understand that this is really about distraction and delay hey distracting from what the indictment is all about, and trying to delay this until after the november election. if you listen the day, there is
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very little substantive that they have brought against the district attorney and this is just all about china sea, but we can do to put this trial off and to get her eye from giving leadership to it >> i'm going the intention certainly was to put a very big spotlight and microscope on her. and you met with her this morning? >> so i'll >> be back on the stand tomorrow. it will begin again in the morning. have you i'm curious. spoken to her since she testified >> and >> do you have any advice for her going forward for tomorrow? >> well, my advice to her tomorrow is again don't be afraid. be courageous and speak truth. and i think truth always brings you out on top. i think, you know, i think the full questioning, how are determined
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the child to make her look bad. but i think fani willis, if she is herself, she would do well today. i think you saw somebody who was eager to respond and i think tomorrow you'll see somebody was eager to respond and to address the challenges they present before her. my advice to harry's de self-view are good at being itself. >> has all you can be, as they say, right? but you know, you are absolutely right about a particular point bishop, we didn't talk about the underlying factual allegations as they relate to the indictment themselves. so in the word distraction, it's certainly was illustrated today bishop reginald t. jackson, what a pleasure to speak with you tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. have a gouldman hope to see you tomorrow. >> thank you. we >> will up next. save the date. put it on your calendar, put it
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only 30 $9 a bottle. if you order within the next 24 hours, the lead with jake tapper, cnn tomorrow it for >> all right. mark your calendars maybe cancel your spring break because i don't want trump his first criminal trial date is now set today. a judge in new york denied his request to dismiss the case entirely and told him he will have to take the stand and have a trial on march 20 oh, well, not have to take the stand by
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the way, because it's really his choice to do so. ultimately. but on march 25th, over hush money payment to adult film star stormy daniels remember he is charged with falsifying business records with the intent to conceal illegal conduct connected to his 2016 presidential campaign. back of b. now we're not a mariotti, james schultz and portrays salton and so it's pretty unbelievable. it took all of what, two minutes. two minutes with his judge, we're not out to make a ruling as going to go forward. it's knocking dismissed. it's coming in 39 days. what was your takeaway? >> i think the. bottom line is that unless donald trump gets very sick or does something else that's extraordinary we're going to have a criminal trial very soon. and it's going to be before the election. i think the judge made very clear that this is going forward. he was really not interested in any of the atmospherics he really would essentially brushed all that aside. and
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ultimately, laura, i think i am along with other others have been critical of this case from time-to-time. but you know it is a very serious thing to be facing many different felony counts. and that's where donald trump is and there's a lot to deal with here in a lot to explain away it is never a good situation for a defendant to be facing this many charges because the jury has to check not guilty many times in order to get him off scot-free and one conviction means he's a convicted felon and flipside of infantries. you got to prove your burden of proof for each of those counts and it can be very problematic to do so. but one of the key witnesses going to be michael cohen he is problematic as a witness. >> he is problematic as a witness, but i think that's irrelevant to what the court had to decide today with respect to the many motions to
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dismiss that were included in this sort of like omnibus filing that was was there and what i loved about the written opinion in this case is that the court besides that, it isn't just physical harm that matters when we think about dangerousness that the allegations in this case are severe. and so to have michael cohen there to testify about what happened, i don't think will unnecessarily undercut the seriousness of the charges are the seriousness of the weight of the evidence against trump in this case. >> i mean, james, one of the things that trump was trying to argue to this, judge was that look, the trial can happen because he's supposed to be out campaigning. i'm of course that's not a legal argument. but here was trump's reaction to the judge that poo-pooing it essentially we want delays, obviously, i'm running for election. i get up when you run for election to be sitting in courthouse in manhattan all day long i'm so mostly been in south carolina right now towards the judges actually
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say, well, that's not my problem, right? michael cohen served jail time for his involvement and yet you see this cut this conversation from trump about, well, wait, i'm trying to campaign. did he really was going to hold some water for this court? >> no. i think that's more for the benefit of the constituents that he's trying to appeal to there that's more of a political statement than anything else his lawyers know it. he knows it knows the judge wasn't going to go for it, but he's going to make that argument anyway, because what he's doing is trying to make this argument that these cases our election interference and that's that's been his mantra the whole time. so these are really political grandstanding on his part. he's gonna be sitting in a courtroom, men. he's likely going to be sitting in a courtroom again in may because i do think the supreme court is likely to take up with jack smith, asked them to do, which is to say that they'll just agree or just not take up that the immunity case which would let the appeals court case stand and the case go forward. so he could very well be facing case in march, case
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in late may, leading right into the conventions gosh, you know, there were i remember not so long ago we all do. right. there were so many complaints over da alvin bragg bringing these charges that how could he go first? why isn't jack smith going for as well as undermine jack smith's attempts to do anything. gosh, alvin bragg is going first, he's overreach erato, i guess the early bird might actually get the worm, which is the first trial date after all >> absolutely. i got to say i was one of those people who's critical of bragg. and i think, but here's the thing, laura i think is challenged is gonna be to convince the jury that this is important that these charges matter, and i do think he's going going to focus is fani willis has on the impact on the election and he's going to essentially be talking about how these false statements in books and records were being made in furtherance of campaign finance crimes. so i do think that's gonna be his argument.
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and at the end of the day, the problem for trump is there are false statements in those books and records and explaining that away is going to be challenging. and as you pointed out a minute ago, he has the choice to take the stand. the question is, does even want to criminal defendants often are in a minefield if they take the stand, i don't really know if he can win this case and get the not guilty verdict without out taking the stand. and that has its own pitfalls for him because as you pointed out a minute ago, he's facing another criminal trial in anything he says could be used against him in that case as well. >> james, you would agree what's going on? >> so now, i don't think he does take the stand in this case. i somewhat disagree as it relates to michael cohen. he is going to be front and center and they're going to attack michael cohen, old every day as someone who's just angry that he wasn't given a position to whiteouts, angry that the president turned on him and using all all of that information against him to make him out to be a biased witness. so i'm not sure in the eyes of
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a jury that trump needs to go and testify in this case. and we all know like he's not going to be controllable on the stand. if you're his lawyer, i'd be hard pressed to say yes, donald go testify well, b-trees james renato i wish you the comfort of not being his lawyer in this case tonight. thank you all so much. i appreciate it. >> now, >> the question could justice delayed the case of justice completely denied? that's what special counsel jack smith is hoping to avoid. on sunday's the whole story with anderson cooper, i'll take an in-depth look at former president donald trump's federal election subversion trial and we'll break down the stakes of pushing the case past the 2024 election there has been a sprint by the prosecution to have this trial heard as soon as possible.
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>> i think jack smith probably leaves that the american public deserves an answer before they go to the ballots and decide who they're voting for. >> and while there is an argument for the public to know the verdict before they cast a ballot. khaled >> there is also the issue of what happens if the trial is delayed and trump is re-elected. >> the president could simply command the department of justice, closed down this case. i don't need to give you a reason. >> so if a trial is going on and donald trump is inaugurated the department of justice could simply dismiss the case, even in the middle of trial. >> not only could they they would be ordered to the plug is pulled all power goes down. it's over >> don't ms that all new episode of the whole story and united states versus donald j. trump. sunday at 08:00 p.m. only on cnn. up next, republicans have long been touting uncorroborated claims from a former fbi informant as
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>> indictment says alexander smirnov, a former fbi and formate made up. now discredited stories about guests who president biden and president biden's son's involvement in business dealings in ukraine joining me now, former fbi deputy assistant director peter strzok. he is the author of compromised counterintelligence and the threat of donald j. trump, peter good to see you. it's been a long time and i gotta tell you when i saw this news too. day among all the other news coming out, i thought you're a former federal agent. you also know what it's like to be at the center of controversy. and frankly conspiracy as well. what was your reaction to these charges tonight? >> well, laura, unfortunately, it was not surprised, sadly, i mean, look, they lay out the department of justice over 37 pages charging two counts, an fbi source, apparently as early as 2010, working for the fbi.
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and then in 2014, at least as early as that engaging in otherwise illegal activity to build criminal cases. so this is a source that has been on the fbi's book books for over a decade. who the charging document lays out lied about information he provided, allegedly about the bidens and various ukrainian figures, burisma folks may remember that from four more years ago, but the funny thing is one, it's a concern for the fbi because you want to understand if this source went bad, if the source was lying to you when that began, did it began just recently or is there a pattern of bad conduct that you need to understand whether or not there's more there. but to the broader point, this was one of the highlights between james comer and kevin mccarthy and chuck grassley and ron johnson this, was one of the sources that was trumpeted is going to bring down the biden crime family. and the sad part law is he's not the first just over six months ago, there's an individual another one of their star witnesses, gal luft, who was indicted for acting as an unregistered agent of the
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government of china and sanctions-busting against iran. so this is truly to raid on the congressional sayyed. it's sad to see it. it's sad to see the involvement of people who are working with foreign powers, who are not, who don't have american interests at heart. >> well, you know, it begs the question and obviously, it's gotta be a concern. we were talking about informants. their credibility is probably always being questioned trust but verify perhaps although i'm not sure, the intelligence committee has a luxury to do that with every single scenario. i mean, in this case, this was an fbi informant, right? should the fbi have done more vetting? >> well, that's a good question. i mean, look, i think any investigator approaches sources with a great deal of skepticism. there's always a consideration about whether or not they're providing you accurate information, whether they're shading the truth and their mechanisms built into assess that sort of reporting as you go along now of course, folks may remember that there was a great deal the of information that the doj's inspector general and congress and john durham and bill barr
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and all kinds of other people paid into the fbi's dealing with sources, providing information that was adverse to donald trump. the question is now that the shoes on the other foot and you've got a bad source providing information about a demo a credit, whether or not there's going to be that same level of scrutiny. but certainly the mechanism is there to take a look at this and i do hope just for the good governance, for good investigative purposes, that sort of hard look is done. >> i didn't want to share with you because hunter biden's lawyer released this statement to cnn tonight saying, quote from month, we have warned the republicans have built their conspiracies about hunter and his family on lies told by people with political agendas, not facts so i wonder does the dynamic between the fbi and congress need to change? >> well, i think that's always going to be a fraught relationship. i mean, the fbi is not despite what people may think is not at all a political
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organization, if anything, you see every time director wray goes in front of congress taking great pains to not say anything which might be perceived as leaning one way or the other in terms of political tone in congress. on the other hand, is by its nature and very political entity. so i think anytime you see something where you have this conflict between the pursuit of a criminal investigation and trying to bring somebody to trial versus a set of folks who have a political agenda, unfortunately, and what we're seeing here willing to take invest information from anywhere. i mean, rudy giuliani and then ron job consonant chuck grassley, we're taking information from a guy named andre derich, katya, the us government has said is an active russian agent. when you get political players who are willing to take information from foreign governmental entities and agents that becomes really problematic. but i think that conflict between doj, the fbi, on the one hand, and congress some of the other. it's been there forever and i don't see it going away anytime soon. >> a glass half-full tonight, i see peter strzok. i don't know
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