>> right, briana, you mentioned those two cases that we're in our paste the script, paul's, and lift an aco in britain. but look, opponents of putin had been attacked in the united states. they've been attacked in asia and elsewhere. he has an immense reach. it doesn't ever seem to really trace back to him personally though >> and as one of your experts noted, he absolutely doesn't care. he's operating with this impunity and it doesn't seem that there's really a way to stop him >> not right now. it does not seem that now he is wanted for war crimes and other things in certain parts of the world. and by certain international bodies. but he has always smart and savvy enough to never travel to those places. he knows exactly how to evade capture or evade accountability here, and even knows very, very well, brianna, how to kind of erase any even slight of fingerprints and any traces of this that lead back to him personally brian todd. >> thank you so much for putting that piece together for situation room. thank you for

watching erin burnett outfront starts right >> outfront next, the breaking news, trump's business taking a major hit, the former president ordered to pay nearly $355 million and banned from doing business state of new york. >> just >> trump have the money to pay this because fani willis is father on the witness stand. and the question got so out of hand today that the judge was forced to refer for man, one of the lawyers, plus what happened to alexei navalny, his close friend, the investigative reporter christo grozev is outfront, been working his sword this is all day and he has new details to share tonight. let's go outfront >> good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, $355 million for president trump and his business empire taking a massive hit today, the judge in trump's new york fraud trial, just deciding trump must pay 300 good, 54 million to be

exact. and then there's interest on top of that that he's also now liable to pay that could add another $100 >> and >> trump has just responded these are corrupt people. these are people that shouldn't be allowed to do the things they do. and they using this as weaponization against a political opponent who's up a lot in the polls for a fine of 355 million for doing a perfect job for having paid back alone with no default, with no problems of course the trial was more than just taking alone. it was about trump manipulating his net worth and lying about it. and it's not just trump who has to pay both of his sons don junior, and eric had been ordered to pay $4 million each and the trump organization cfo allen weisselberg, has to pay $1 million all in it's devastating punishment for trump. and it's not all this part in a sense

for him, psychologically matters just as much. the judge yanking away trump's right to do business in new york for three years. now, the new york attorney general, letitia james speaking just a short time ago the scale and the scope of donald trump's fraud is staggering and so too is his ego and his belief that the rules do not apply to him. >> today. >> we are holding >> donald trump accountable >> this matters to trump in an extraordinary way >> the >> psychology of it, his entire persona, what he defines himself as is being the most successful business person in new york i mean, just remember and listen to this, how he's to find themselves since well before the white house days, the opening of the apprentice my city, my name's donald trump and i'm the largest real

estate developer in new york. i own buildings all over the place well, the part about the developers not true, but the buildings are some of his most treasured possessions. that part is true. >> anyone's that he owns now >> he's at risk of losing them a trump is facing. now, one of the biggest financial crisis of his 77 years, according to forbes, trump has about $640 million that he could use to pay this money, this fine, this decision would need at more than half of that. but then think about it this way. what about what he owes e jean carroll that's at $8.3 million. so when you add that to this, that's $443 million. i'm not even counting the interest here that'd be 543. so for 43 is nearly 70% of his cash and personal assets according to forbes, and again, just emphasize 500 million, there's another hundred million dollars i'm not even counting because of the interest. it is a lot of money. >> and if trump can't >> just pay it out of his cache, you may be forced to sell things like his trump tower penthouse, or as jet or as foams and florida and st.

martin. and by the way, i should say in a deposition with letitia james in this last year, he said he only had $400 million. so this alone would be 90% of his own estimated cash. this is a crippling blow to a man who promised that he would be successful if he just ran the united states like he runs his businesses nobody's ever been more successful than me the most successful person ever to run. >> i'm much richer than it, almost anybody. >> i'm really rich. i'll show you that i'm a great business. i made a fortune and i want to put that same thinking for the country >> well, now, putting that thinking to the rest of the country takes on a whole new connotation. >> paula reid >> is outfront live outside trump tower paul, it's a massive penalty will it force trump to make changes to his strategy and how he's fighting this at all >> erin and speaking with sources and then just listening to the former president in a short time ago but there is no

indication that he is going to change up his combative and remorseless strategy when it comes to these legal cases. now his approach of attacking process it's accusers attacking sex abuse survivors attacking judges, has resulted in hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties and limited visibility to do business in the state of new york york but that is where his interests he seems to think as a defendant and as a candidate diverge. no one in their right mind would attack a judge overseeing a case you're involved in, but he does so repeatedly and deliberately in this larger effort to try to convince his supporters and voters at large that he is the victim of election interference greene's, and that there is an unfair system that is targeting him and them by extension, i'm just really quite stunning are and then he continues to do this, but he must see a political benefit. but the stakes are about to become a lot higher. because in a few weeks he is expected to face his first criminal case. and based on what we saw in court in that case yesterday no indication

that he's going to take a different approach there. but while there, he might be scoring some political points to this approach. a criminal conviction might hit differently but the general electorate, erin, all right. >> thank you very much, paula. and now, erik larson joins me now, illegal or peripheral bloomberg news he was in the courtroom from the entire trial. anyone who watches this show saw a lot of eric. barbara is former executive vice president for the trump organization. she worked with trump for over 15 years. she's the author of tower of lies, and of course ryan goodman our legal analyst and the co-editor in chief of just security. so eric here we are. you were in the courtroom throughout this and i just went through the math so you get between the two cases, 543 million, 643 million. if you count the interest so that's that's that's more than what he says. his estimated caches. he says 400 million, it's actually more than the 600 million that that he's estimated by forbes. i mean, does he have the cash to cover this?

>> well, so far, we think that he might the bloomberg billionaires index puts him at about $600 million in liquid assets, including like you said, around 400 or more million dollars in cash. but the question is if he eats all of that up, having to pay these damage awards he still is going to have some cash on hand, so he might have to sell awesome assets in order to replenish his cash. but a lot of this could be dragged out on appeal. he will have to put up some money, though, in order to do those appeals so i think we'll learn a little bit more about it once those appeals starts, whether or not he has this money, all right. >> and an appeals, what is this? does have a good chance on appeal >> really not at all i would not bet on him and i'm not sure who would part of the reason is that the trial judge gets so much deference from the appeals courts, especially on the facts and especially in this case, the judge has written his opinion time and again, referring to all these witnesses on trump's side, and he says controller? jeffrey mcconney, he was incredibly was

severely impaired for eric trump. his credibility was severely damaged for donald trump his refusal answer questions directly severely compromised his credibility. and for one of their star witnesses, this particular expert at the end, lost all credibility in the eyes of the court. that is something that the appeals court we will have a very hard time overturning because has to be a clear error and there's deference to this, judge. >> right. and we should make always very clear. this is the way the court was handled in one judge having all this power seems odd to a lot of people, both sides had agreed that this was the way it was going to be. they weren't accept this, so it's not as if anything funny or strange happened. this is the way it goes and both sides had agreed on that barbara, how much is the money part matter to trump personally? i mean, just take a step back and say, money matters to everybody. this is a lot of money over here, okay. so that it is what it is. >> but when >> you look at the psychology of it, what do you see? >> well, i'm money i mean, i think she's going contract. is that a bit thousand dollars? i mean, you know, money was

almost a game to him you had to have all the money. but, you know, in this case, i mean, i don't know that he's still going to vine you believe this that didn't really happen? happen. you know, he's, going to. spin it, was already tried to spin it and all those people are going to believe that, that it's a setup and he's being persecuted and everything. so will we have to pay it? i don't know some of it maybe. and we'll have the money. it probably will. he's got still has a lot of assets that he can publish cell, right. >> but i mean to imagine to be in a position addition. i mean, you talk about a fall to have to sell those assets that mattered deeply to him entire persona is wrapped up. well, absolutely. if if you start having to sell assets, then it's going to be big. but until that point, he's still playing it like on the best businessman and the world. and this is all lies and. that's going, to go on until the appeals. >> so erick, how is this going to impact trump's businesses? because you've got not just the fine, but also this ban on

doing business in the state of new york, three years, right? >> so that's just what applies to him for three years and for his son's two years, which is significant. i mean, they can't be a director of any new york-based company it remains to be seen how they'll try to spread around duties to try to get around that and make that work. and they'll also be able to try to get those put on hold during an appeal but one of the bigger problems might be the appointment of this independent compliance monitor that the judge ordered, who's going to be in the company with them looking at every briefing they're doing even more than this independent monitor who's already been doing that during the case. so they're going to have two layers now of outsiders going over everything they're doing with banks, potentially looking at assets that are so tainted that they need to be sold. i mean, this is all laid out in the decision that the judge said was all necessary because of the past it's problems that trump has had even before this lawsuit with trump university and trump foundation and things like that. >> so ryan, how long does it take? and i know you get into

the legal of all this, but it does matter for voters and it matters for trump. how long does it take as this goes through, you talk about the appeals court. much not likely to take this up on his side but when do we know when does this exhaust its appeals >> it'll exhaust its appeals. well after the election say, i knew you were going to say that. but on the other hand, right. i mean, i think that the american public will be sitting with this as the judgment in the case and a judgment that i think by all accounts is looks like it's insulated from reversal on appeal. so it looks as though this is the new status quo. >> so barbara, in 90, some odd page. >> okay. the judge wrote the opinion an insignificant the time was was taken. >> the >> t's are crossed the i's are dotted. the judge writes and grand defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to the accountants resulting in fraudulent financial statements. and when confronted at trial with the statements, the fact and expert witnesses simply denied reality you worked for trump for a long time. we just mentioned that he would care about $1,000 on a

contractor negotiation does that does that make sense to you that when you see this blatantly false financial data, yeah, i've no. she wasn't. it was a process. if you look at my bones over time, he became trump. he didn't start out that way, but i'm just assuming that it's continued in the same way and yeah, he is up to zillions of dollars lying about that. yeah, sure. he falsified it. well, everything that he could get away with and basically he thinks she can get away with anything values of apartments, sizes of apartment, even the height of the you made 68 stores when it was really 50 68 versus 58. wow, even in even when he would talk about bytes, buildings, one could even look at buildings and why. >> now >> the hundred, but that big debts the time. >> all right, well, thank you all very much. i appreciate it. and >> next, fani willis, his father coming to her defense, pushing back against trump's legal team, who have been

putting her love life on trial >> your honor, i'm not trying to be racist. okay but it's a black drain plus top putin critic alexey navalny, dead in jail. it was in good spirits just two days ago. so what happened? investigative journalist christo grozev, who works worked alongside navalny and just left navalny's wife side has new details about the circumstances around the volumes reported death. christo will be out front and the video of notes hello argamani shouting for her life, but she's being taken away by hamas fighters has now been seen around the world isn't it? i'll speak to her father who has a message for her captors. she is still in gaza gaza

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>> to answer detailed questions about his 53-year-old daughters loved life to defend her against attacks and claims that she lied when she said her relationship with wade began after she picked him to lead the probe. they asked him when he first made me met wade and how often another ex-boyfriend would visit willis? >> so relevant. right. >> but the questioning was so intense and wide ranging from the defense that the judge stepped into reprimand one of the lawyers who asked multiple questions about a home that he used to own and washington you own that property when you moved here in 2019 >> yes. >> and you owned it in 2020, correct? >> well that were you now you talk about very complicated issue. i left the property. there was a dispute between me and i'd gotten a reverse mortgage company and there was a dispute between me and divert. and i just i walked away from it. >> okay. you walked away >> from it with almost

$300,000. yeah. what is the relevance of that? >> where he lived and registered to vote? that's what they brought in. so that's what is the money you got. >> that's not relevant at all. >> it's the only proof i have of that he owned that address, so i can move on now. >> michael isikoff is outfront now. he spent extensive time with willis and her team for his new book, find me the votes, a hard charging georgia prosecutor and road president. and the plot to steal an american election. and your name was brought up, of course, many times today, michael. and also with me, stephanie rawlings-blake, the former democratic mayor of baltimore in a foreign public defender fallings, break, you know, i i know i said it with a bit of tone and my voice because i am a little perplexed, i don't know what 53-year-old woman would wear. her father would be the one that knows when she begins dating somebody or what she's doing while she's dating somebody? makes no sense at all, but yet they bring her father to the stand and yesterday she had to go into extremely intimate details about her personal life or love life. and now her father was then asked about those things

as well. is it does it seem incredible to you >> it seems heartbreaking, horrible. i mean, dating is hard, especially for women who choose public service i know that this hearing, these questions, watching her being questioned, watching her father being questioned, is going to be a chilling effect for women who were considering public service. it was heartbreaking to see her father have to answer those questions, especially if you know anything about conservative african-americans in the south, relationships are people keep them pretty close to their vest. i have family i didn't i didn't i never met any of their girlfriends until they pick someone that they wanted to marry. so the questions i think had a cultural bias as well >> now it's just very interesting point important for everyone to hear, because in that courtroom, of course, people would know that, right? that's the culture of where

they live. it, michael, do you think the testimony today? moved the needle at all >> well, i actually thought the father's testimony was was fairly effective and helped his daughter's case here, by the way, the father is quite a fascinating character and we write about them quite a bit in find me the votes so he's a former civil rights activists to became for awhile a black panther. he founded the black panther party of loss of californa of los angeles. he lived for awhile with angela davis, shed his radical beliefs and became a lawyer, raised fani, but i thought he was quite effective on one of the points that did raise eyebrows yesterday. that is the reimbursements in cash, yes >> there was no hard evidence of that there was some skepticism really fani willis

was reimbursing nathan wade thousands of dollars there's in cash. she said that she was taught from an early age by her father to always carry cash around with you at all times, keep large amounts of cash in your home in case anything happens and he kind of supported that with some specificity today and talked at length about it. and so i think that that helped a bit overall though >> i don't think the needle moved a lot today the one witness that the trump lawyers pushed hard, terrence bradley, the former law partner of nathan wade, said head no independent knowledge of the relationship between weight and willis. but apparently he has some knowledge as because he was waves lawyers, so that led to this extensive questioning about the extent of attorney-client privilege. the

judge is going to listen to him in camera and then decide how much, if any, he can testify to at all. >> marilyn's blake, fani willis did say yesterday that her father was the reason why she used cash, right. as michael was just indicating to reimburse nathan wade when they took trips together, it did raise eyebrows. so here's how she had explained it. >> when you meet my father he is until you as a woman you should always have, which i don't have. so let's don't tell him that should have at least six months in cash at your house at all, tom? i don't know why these old black man feels like that, but he does >> all right, so he did talk about that maire today. here's what he said. >> your honor, i'm not trying to be racist. okay. >> but >> it's a black thing. okay. you know, i was trained and most black folks, they hide cash so they keep cash. there was signed said, you know, with

a credit card for whatever reasons the man would not take my american express credit card. so i pulled up my visa card and he wouldn't take my visa card. so then i pulled out my travelers checks. he said, we don't take checks. i've told my daughter, you keep six months worth of cash. always where do you think he helped put any controversy over willis using cash to rest >> definitely think you did. you know, i think he made a point when he said it's a black thing. i think it's a black thing. i think it's an immigrant thing, especially for older black people in this country who've been discriminated did it, who could not depend on banks, who are skeptical of banks? a lot of people keep cash in. my community. it was something that is was pretty normal. that people have stashes in their house friends would talk about the grand moms gone under the bid under the mattress and

helping them out with their tuition money it is a thing. so i think he came across as very credible. he's his testimony. he he's he's likable. he's credible. i think he heard himself a little bit saying that he listened to the test testimony, but i really felt like he came across. well and backed up. fani story. >> michael, obviously, which way do you think the judge is leaning and what are you hearing from? people close to fani willis. >> the judge has been pretty sphinx like on this sees he's very fast they're very judicious, has brushback both sides. but he really hasn't tipped his hand on which way he's going i mean, i have to say i was a bit surprised that he opened the door to this evidentiary hearing, which is devolved into this inquiry into the sex life of the da and and the special prosecutor in charge of the case. and it's

distractive. a lot of people from the underlying core issues here, which are quite serious and quite momentous. and that is the efforts by trump and his associates to overturn the results of the election in georgia >> so we'll say >> it's all up to the judge. it's really hard to know which way he's going right now. >> all right. >> we could hear obviously early next week, we'll see. thank you both very much. and next new video of rush arresting people who are mourning the reported death of top putin critic alexey navalny investigative journalists christo grozev, who worked alongside navalny for years and has been digging into what happened, joins me exclusively next. plus the haunting images of noa argamani is kidnapping shocking the world and her father now, opening up about his wife's dying wish, which is to see their daughter on more time. >> a lot i think working and

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appearance just a day before he died. alexey navalny's seemed in good spirits, seizing the judge at the court hearing where he appeared by video conference your honor, i will give you my personal account number so that you can send me money from your huge salary. he said, i'm running eric, thanks to your decisions in prison authorities say he collapsed on friday after his daily state media says emergency teams called to his penal colony, tried to revive him for more than half an hour still, navalny's family are waiting for confirmation of his death no years. >> the problem >> you have >> which is true, i wouldn't putin and all his stuff everybody around him >> we just can't lose yeah, his government, his friends i want them to know that they will be punished for what they

have done to our country. >> it's not just going >> to my family and to my husband. is my emotion, but we estimate but the vowel is demise, sends yet another chilling message to the russian opposition. >> a few >> braving restrictions to lay flowers amid widespread shock country's most prominent opposition figure has been cited >> can yes, no what calms me >> is that if he really died, his death will make i supporters at a bit stronger. says this woman in st. petersburg, those nolan, when i learned about it, i was horrified and cried, says now i just want to screen share any checks going >> but we'd russian presidential elections just weeks away. vladimir putin seems unfazed by the death of another prominent critic. he's visiting an industrial facility in the city of chelyabinsk,

leaving his spokesman, dmitry scott fields, nearly all could questions according to the rules of all necessary investigations are underway. he >> told reporters later suggesting that much international reaction to the death is unjustified but for many, blame is already being laid kremlin's door prone navalny protests are banned in russia, but in neighboring georgia and elsewhere, mourners are turning out to pay their respects and to voice their anger >> putin >> die, they're chanting. >> but >> it is his critics. it seems whose lives are snatched away well, erin, tonight across russia, it appears that the police are cracking down on those well-wishers that are turning out to pay their respects and to attend vigils and to lay flowers in memorial to alexey navalny, ovn info,

which is a group that monitors repression in russia, says more than 100 people across the country have been detained in moscow, st. petersburg, nizhny novgorod, mermansk in the north and elsewhere as well, just gives you a sense of how broad is the sympathy for alexey navalny across russia tonight? >> all right, to imagine the people who have the bravery to go out and take the risks they're taking. what that reflects underneath >> matthew chance. thank you very much. christo grozev, the investigative journalist, who all of you know, he's been here so many times, he exposed the plot to kill navalny and he is on putin's wanted list, speaking exclusively it outfront this evening. and christo, i'm so sorry for your loss. this was a dear friend, somebody you would worked tirelessly alongside. you exposed russian corruption together. i know that you are doing everything you can to find out what happened here. what do you know at this time? >> let's start with the obvious

i think president biden said it correctly today, whatever the actual granular truth is of how exactly navalny's death came about this morning. if it's true, but we all the evidence points to the fact that it is true then it is really putting who caused the death because they're only two extreme hypothesis here. the most innocent one is that his dad came as a result of three years of torture, three years of of slowly killing. and because of the unlawful anti-constitutiona l solitary confinement that he was put to, that is completely unprecedented in russian, in the russian prison system. just over the last two years, he spent more than 300 days in solitary confinement, whereas the regulations suggest that you will be legal to hold the person even for two weeks since all to confinement. but the putin's system found ways to keep him there more and more. he was the private medical care he was deprived of any balanced

nutrition even from the prison. prison perspective, he was getting one loaf of bread per month and the rest of the time he was getting just snippets, but that is the innocent hypothesis. the most likely one, unfortunately, is that he was poisoned the second time. now, we don't have the evidence yet with what we have is circumstantial clues in that direction. one of them is that if it were true that as the government has stated, that he fell down and killed, collapsed because of a blood clot this morning during his walk in the prison yard then where's the evidence to that? where is the visual evidence? all of the presence in russia are equipped with surveillance cameras. it's been 18 hours since this happened, and we haven't seen a thing. again, this is just circumstantial that at this point everything points to the fact that he was killed. today on purpose we're going to dig into that. we're going to i'm sure that we're going to find out what happened to him. but again, the burden of proof that

he was he died on his own is now on the kremlin's hands because four years ago, we proved they tried to kill him with chemical weapons but with novichok and do you have any sense as to why now if they if it was poison again this time, why now, why putin would want that? now? >> there are many, many reasons why now the elections in russia with the so-called elections in quotation marks are coming in about a month. and what we see is that even yesterday's jocular, abdullah's statement from from jail from the courtroom essentially in a van gogh's making fun of putin, and he continues to be able to send messages ii was continuing able to send messages that would the meeting to put an even from jail. but also what we did see in the last two months was an increasing anti-war protest movement, especially by women wives, and mothers of soldiers. and as we know, one of the strongest, probably the strongest voice

against the war in ukrainian russia was navalny's. so all of these are many reasons for the same outcome put in wanted in debt and, you know, one thing that always amazed me, speaking to his daughter, dasha was his great love for his family, that despite this >> incredible commitment that he had, right. despite that, he went back to russia knowing that that meant he may never see his family again. he was incredibly devoted to them and they were devoted to him. and i asked dasha about the last time she hugged her father. >> and here's >> what she told me >> i don't think i quite understood in the moment that it was the last time, but i would hug him in the near future. >> what would your message be for him? i know he won't see this, but if you were to see you now that we're we're fighting >> and we're doing everything we can to get him out. and then i ms him and i want to i want

to extend the message to everyone else who's watching that fighting for what's right is going to be hard. but it's never wrong. >> it was felt it could only imagine the pride that a father would feel and his daughter doing that and taking those that courageousness that it took for his daughter to speak out. and when you when you spend time with them and he was part of that documentary navalny that aired here on cnn. christo, he talked about going back, why he chose after being poisoned, going to germany, why he chose to go back. he said this >> my message for the situation when i'm killed is very simple, not give up. yesli slow. it does not change. then we near book nivea and let's see my mantras.

>> if they decide to kill me, it means we are incredibly strong what are those words mean to you? now when you hear them from your friend tonight, christo these are probing words and i took them at a time as almost a joke. and now unfortunately, you just saw his own death and he saw the situation in which his words will rip reverb and echo with exactly the meeting that you have to continue this work for me because we've made it we've made it him scared. we've made the small man at the kremlin's and i think what we saw today, his wife actually proved in real time that she take to those words seriously, she went hours after finding out that her husband was killed by the crest of the country that she's a resident country a citizen of. she went to the stage of the munich security conference and she made a powerful speech in which i think she spoke us a future

politician. i think she's focused somebody who will disappoint the people who thought that by removing an navalny from, from the living they're going to remove his his legacy and what he stood for >> christo. thank you very much we all appreciate your time >> again, >> i'm sorry for the loss >> and outfront. next, i'm going to speak to clarissa ward. she's done extensive reporting on alexey navalny, and she tracked down his alleged poisoners and spoke to navalny about the dangers of returning to russia >> you're aware of the risks of going back? >> yes, but i'm russian politician plus she became the face of the music festival that was attacked by hamas militants in a terror attack on october 7 >> tonight think to her father about how his faith is helping him keep hope alive

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years. and then clarissa went to one of the fsb agents homes to question him when used with clarissa ward cnn, my name's clarissa ward. i work for cnn. can i ask you a couple of questions? most of them spreadsheet it at the russia commander at the reveal and navalny, was it your team that poisoned navalny, please? do you have any comment? >> he doesn't seem to want to talk to us >> i'm clarissa is with me now. clarissa, you have interviewed navalny, you know, ben face-to-face, spent time together, done extensive reporting on him, connecting putin to that poisoning you've got relationships with navalny and his wife, yulia. and obviously navalny was in court yesterday. we can see him. >> he >> i mean, obviously he's been through h4 over these past years, but he he was laughing,

he was making comments it was prison officials to vote against putin and the upcoming election. when did you hear the news today? and was your reaction >> i heard the news really just as it broke, it was around noon here in london, early morning us time and i think like so many people, it was this combination of shock and horror. >> but >> also at the same time, logically, not surprise. this is a man who the russian state had tried to kill with a lethal nerve agent, novichok in the past, we know that many of putin's critics have met a girl grisly end. so it wasn't surprising and yet it felt so horrifying frankly, so grim and like such a dark moment in russia's history and particularly of course, for russia's opposition and for the very brave men and women who have risked everything thing to

really put to president putin that they want a better future. they want a brighter future, and they want a freer future and so it does feel like a very grim moment, although i know for a fact, based on having spent time with alexei navalny, that he would very watch, want people to view view this as a moment for optimism as well. and that he would hope his example would be common legacy, and that it would galvanize people to recommit, to supporting efforts to continue the fight for freedom, erin, which says everything about him in a way that people may admire or just be sort of amazed that. but, but it is hard to understand the fact that he would go back when he had gotten out of russia, right? you spoke to him after he was poisoned. he knew going back to russia would be a risk. he knew that being killed again was a possibility in fact, given what had happened to him, perhaps

the likelihood. and when you talk to him about that, here's how that went >> you've said that you want to go back to russia and i will do you're aware of the risks of going back? >> yes, but i'm russian politician and even when i was not just in hospital, i was in intense therapy. and i said publicly, i will go back and i will go back because i'm russian politician, i belong to this country and definitely which i i especially now when this actually crime has cracked open, revealed i understand the whole operation. i would never give putin such it it's amazing to listen to those words right now as they resonate as he is dead. >> do you >> think, clarissa, that we'll ever know exactly what happened? >> i think it's unlikely erin, when you look at the circumstances of his poisoning

with novichok and august of 2020, the minute he collapsed on that plane and his team in siberia found out about it. they rushed to the hotel room where he had been staying. they collected evidence anything that the toothbrush that had left behind the towel that he had used similarly, once he was medevaced out to germany, a team of doctors saved his life, but also did extensive testing, were able to conclude that novae chalk, that lethal nerve agent had been used on him in this day and age and this set of circumstances, it's hard to believe you will have that level of transparency or any kind of autopsy that would allow people to really know what happened clarissa. >> thank you very much next, i'm going to speak to the father of a young woman whose kidnapping at the israeli music festival was seen across the globe. and he has a message tonight the story of sensitivity premiere sunday, february 25, day ten on cnn

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