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>> the breaking news, trump's business taking a major hit, the former president ordered to pay nearly 355 million dollars and banned from doing business in the state of new york. does trump have the money to pay this? plus fani willis his father on the witness stand. and the question got so not a pan today that the judge was forced to reprimand one of the lawyers. plus what happened to alexei navalny his close friend, the investigative reporter christo grozev because i've is outfront, been working his sources all day and he has new details to share tonight. let's go outfront >> good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, 355 million. former president trump and his business empire taking a massive hit today, the judge in trump's new york fraud trial i'll just deciding trump must pay 354.8 million to be exact. and then there's interest on top of that that he's also now liable to pay that could add another $100 and trump has just
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responded these are corrupt people. these are people that shouldn't be allowed to do the things they do and they using this as weaponization against a political opponent who's up a lot in the poll calls for a fine of $355 million for doing a perfect job for having paid back alone with no defaults with no problems >> of course, the trial was more than just taking alone. it was about trump manipulating his net worth and lying about it. and it's not just trump who has to pay both of his sons, don junior, and eric had been ordered to pay $4 million each. and the trump organization cfo allen weisselberg, has to pay $1 million colors all in it's devastating punishment for trump. and it's not all. this part in a sense for him psychologically matters just as much. the judge yanking away trump's right to do business in new york for three years. now, the new york attorney general, letitia james,
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speaking just a short time ago the scale and the scope of donald trump's fraud is staggering and so too is his ego and his belief that the rules do not apply to him. >> today. >> we are holding donald trump accountable now this matters to trump and an extraordinary way, the psychology of it, his entire persona, >> what he defines himself as is being the most successful business person in new york. i mean, just remember and listen to this, how he's to find themselves since well before the white house days, the opening of the apprentice who you are my city, my name's donald trump and i'm the largest real estate developer in new york i own buildings all over the place well, the part about the developers not true, but the buildings are some of his most treasured possessions.
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that part is true. >> anyone's that he owns now >> he's at risk of losing them. a trump is facing. now, one of the biggest financial crisis of his 77 years, according to forbes trump has about $640 million that he could use to pay this money. that's fine >> this decision would eat at more than half of that, but >> then think about it this way. what about what he owes e jean carroll that's at $8.3 million. so when you add that to this, that's $443 million. i'm not even counting the interest here that'd be 543. so for 43 is nearly 70% of his cash and personal assets according to forbes, and again, just emphasize 500 million, there's another hundred million dollars i'm not even counting because of the interest. >> it is a lot of money. >> and if trump >> can just pay it out of his cache, you may be forced to sell things like his trump tower penthouse or his jet, or as foams and florida and st. martin. and by the way, i should say in a deposition with letitia james in this case last year, he said he only had $400 million. so this alone would be 90% of his own estimated cash.
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this is a crippling blow to a man who promised that he would be successful if he just ran the united states, like he runs his businesses nobody's ever been more successful than me i be most successful person ever to run. i'm much richer than it. almost anybody. >> i'm really rich. i'll show you that. no, sir. >> i'm a great business. i made a fortune and i want to put that same thinking for the country >> well, now, putting that thinking to the rest of the country takes on a whole new connotation. paula reid is outfront live outside trump tower paul, it's a massive penalty will it force trump to make changes to his strategy and how he's fighting this at all >> erin and speaking with sources, and then just listening to the former president a short time. i'm ago, there is no indication that he is going to change up his combative and remorseless strategy when it comes to these legal cases. now, his approach of attack talking prosecutors,
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attacking sex abuse survivors, attacking judges, has resulted in hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties and limited visibility to do business the state of new york. but that is where his interests, he seems to think as a defendant and as a candidate diverge. no one in their right mind would attack a judge overseeing it. case you're involved in, but he does so repeatedly and deliberately in this larger effort to try to convince his supporters and voters at large that he is the victim of electors section interference, and that there is an unfair system that is targeting him and them by extension, it's really quite stunning. and then he continues to do this, but he must see a political benefit. but the stakes are about to become a lot higher. >> because in a few >> weeks he is expected to face his first criminal case. and based on what we saw in court in that case, this yesterday, no indication that he's going to take a different approach there. but while there, you might be scoring some political point to this approach, a criminal conviction right hit,
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differently with the general electorate. erin >> all right. thank you very much, paula. now, erik larson joins me now to legal reporter for bloomberg news. he was in the courtroom from the entire trial. anyone who watches this show saw a lot of eric barbara is former executive vice president for the trump organization. she worked with trump for over 15 years. she's the author of tower of lies. and of course ryan goodman, our legal analyst and the co-editor in chief of just security. so eric here we are you were in the courtroom throughout this and i just went through the math so you get between the two cases, 543 million, 643 million. if you count the interest that's that's that's more than what he says. his estimated caches. he says 400 million, it's actually more than 600 million that that he's estimated by forbes. i mean, does he have the cash to cover this? >> well, so far, we we think that he might the bloomberg billionaires index puts him at about $600 in liquid assets, including like you said, around 400 or more million dollars in
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cash. but the question is if he eats all of that up, having to pay these damage awards he's still is going to have some cash on hand so he might have to sell some assets in order to replenish his cash. but a lot of this could be dragged out on appeal he will have to put up some money, though, in order to do those appeals so i think we'll learn a little bit more about it once those appeals starts, whether or not he has this money, all right >> and an appeals, what is this? does he have a good chance on appeal >> really not at all i would not bet on him and i'm not sure who would part of the reason is that the trial judge gets so much deference from the appeals courts, especially on the facts and especially in this case, the judge has written his opinion time and again, referring to all these witnesses on trump's side and he says the controller, jeffrey mcconney, he was incredibly severely impaired for eric trump. his credibility was severely damaged for donald trump, his refusal answer questions directly severely compromised his credibility and for one of their star witnesses, this particular
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expert at the end, lost all credibility in the eyes of the court. that is something that the appeals court will have a very hard time overturning because has to be clear error and there's deference to this, judge. >> right. and we should make always very clear. this is the way the court was handled in one judge having all this power seems odd to a lot of people both sides had agreed that this was the way it was going to be. they were gonna accept this. so it's not as if anything funny or strange happened. this is the way it goes and both sides had agreed on that barbara, how much is the money part matter to trump personally? i mean, if you take a step back and say money matters to everybody, this is a lot of money over him. okay, so that it is what it is. >> but >> when you look at the psychology of it, what do you see? >> well, i'm money i mean, i think she's going contract. is that if it thousand dollars, i mean, you know, monday was almost a game to me, you had to have all the money, but, you know, in this case, i mean, i don't know that he's still going to bind believe this that didn't really happen. you know,
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i'm, just going to spin it was already tried to spin it and all its people are going to believe that that it's a setup and he's being persecuted and everything. so will we have to pay it? i don't know some of it maybe. and will he have the money? it probably will. he's got still has a lot of assets that it can publish cell but i mean to imagine to be in a position, i mean, you talk about a fall to have to sell those assets that mattered deeply to him entire persona is wrapped up. well, absolutely. if he's, if he starts having to sell assets, then it's going to be big. but until that point, he's still playing it like on the best businessman in the world. and this is all allies and i'm that's it that's going to go on till the piano. >> so erick, how is this going to impact trump's businesses because you've got not just the fine but also this ban on doing business in the state of new york, three years right? >> so that's just what applies to him for three years and for his son's two years, which is significant when they can't be a director of any new york-based company, it remains
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to be seen how they'll try to spread around the duties to try to get around that and make that work. and they'll also be able to try to get those put on hold during an appeal. but one of the bigger problem ones might be the appointment of this independent compliance monitor that the judge ordered. who's going to be in the in the company with them looking at everything they're doing even more than this independent monitor who's already been doing that during the case. so they're going to have two layers now of outsiders going over everything they're doing with banks, potentially looking at assets that are so tainted that they need to be sold. i mean, this is all laid out in the decision that the judge said was all necessary because of the past problems that trump has had even before this lawsuit with trump university and trump foundation and things like that. >> so ryan, how long does it take? and i know you get into the legal of all this, but it does matter for voters and it matters for trump. how long does it take as this goes through it, you've talked about the appeals court much not likely to take this up on his
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side but when do we know when does this exhaust its appeals? >> it'll exhaust its appeals. well, after the election, say, i knew you were going to say that. but on the other hand, right. i mean, i think that the american public will be sitting with this as the judgment in the case. and a judgment that i think by all accounts is looks like it's insulated from reversal on appeal. so it looks as though this is the new status quo so barbara, in 90, some odd page. >> okay. the judge wrote the opinion and insignificant the time was taken. the t's were crossed the i's are dotted. the judge writes and grand defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to the accountants resulting in fraudulent financial statements. and when confronted at trial with the statements, the fact and expert witnesses simply denied reality. you worked for trump for a long time. you just mentioned that he would care about $1,000 on a contractor negotiation. does that does that make sense to you that when you see this blatantly false financial data? >> yeah, absolutely.
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>> it was a process. if you look at my broadly, over time, maybe champ trump, he didn't start out that way, but i'm just assuming that it's continued in the same way and yeah, he is up to zillions of dollars lying about that. yeah. sure. if falsified it well, everything that he could get away with and basically he thinks you we can get away with anything values of apartments, sizes of apartment, even the height of the you made 68 stores when it was really 15 68 versus 58. >> even in even when he would talk about >> bytes buildings, one could even look at buildings and why. >> now >> the hundred, but that big debts the time. >> all right, well, thank you all very much. i appreciate it. and next, fani willis, his father, coming to her defense pushing back against trump's legal team, who have been putting her love life on trial >> your honor, i'm not trying to be racist, but yes, a black
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ex-boyfriend would visit willis? so relevant, >> right. >> but the questioning was so intense and wide ranging from the defense that the judge stepped into reprimand one of the lawyers who asked multiple questions about a home that he used to own and washington you own. that property when you moved here in 2019 >> yes. >> and you owned it in 2020, correct? >> well that were you now you talk about very complicated issue i left the property. there was a dispute between me and i had gotten a reverse mortgage company and there was a dispute between me and divert that and i just i walked away from it. >> okay. you >> walked away from it with >> almost $300,000? yeah. >> what is the relevance to that >> where he lived in registered to vote? that's what they brought in. so that's one of the money you go relevant at all. >> it's the only proof i have of that he owned that address, so i can move on now >> michael isikoff is outfront now, he spent extensive time
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with willis and her team for his new book, find me the votes. >> a hard >> charging georgia prosecutor and rogue president. and the plot to steal an american election in your name was brought up. of course, many times today, michael and also with me, stephanie rawlings-blake, former democratic mayor of baltimore and a former public defender. mayor rawlings break you know, i i know i said it with a bit of tone and my voice because i am a little perplexed, i don't know what 53-year-old woman would wear. her father would be the one that knows when she begins dating somebody or what she's doing while she's dating somebody, makes no sense at all, but yet they bring her father to the stand and yesterday she had to go into extremely intimate details about her personal life or love life. and now her father was then asked about those things as well. is it does it seem incredible to you >> it seems heartbreaking, horrible. i mean, dating is hard, especially for women who choose public service i know
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that this hearing, these questions, watching her being questioned, watching her father being questioned justin is going to be a chilling effect for women who were considering public service. it was, it was heartbreaking to see her father have to answer those questions, especially if you know anything about conservative african-americans in the south, relationships are people keep them pretty close to their vest i have family. i didn't i didn't i never met any of their girlfriends until they pick someone that they wanted to marry. so the questions i think had a cultural bias as well. >> now it's just very interesting point important for everyone to hear, because in that courtroom, of course, people would know that, right? that's the the culture of where they live. michael, do you think the testimony today moved the needle at all >> well, i actually thought the father's testimony was was fairly effective and helped his daughter's case here, by the
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way, the father is quite a fascinating character we write about them quite a bit in find me the votes. he's a former civil rights activist to became for awhile a black panther. he founded the black panther party of loss of californa, of los angeles. he lived for awhile with angela davis shed his radical beliefs and became a lawyer player, raised fani but i thought he was quite effective on one of the points that did raise eyebrows yesterday. that is the reimbursements in cash, yes there, was no hard evidence of that. there was some skepticism really fani willis was reimbursing nathan wade thousands of dollars in cash she said that she was taught from an early age by her father to always carry cash around with you at all times, keep large amounts of cash in your home in case anything happens
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and he supported that with some specificity today and talked at length about it. so i think that that helped a bit. >> overall though. >> i don't think the needle moved a lot today >> the one >> witness that the trump lawyers pushed hard, terrence brown hadley with the former law partner of nathan wade, said he had no independent knowledge of the relationship between weight and willis but apparently he has some knowledge as because he was waves lawyers, so that led to this extensive questioning about the extent attorney-client privilege the judge is going to listen to him in camera and then decide how much, if any, he can testify to at all. >> so marilyn's blake fani willis did say yesterday that her father was the reason why she used cash, right. as michael was just indicating to reimburse nathan wade when they
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took trips together, it did raise eyebrow here how she had explained it >> when you meet my father he's going to tell you as a woman, you should always have which i don't have. so let's don't tell him that should have at least six months in cash at your house at all, tom i don't know why these old black man feels like that, but he does >> all right, so he did talk about that maire today. here's what he said. >> your honor, i'm not trying to be racist. okay. >> but >> it's a black drank. okay. you know, i was trained and most black folks, they hide cash so they keep case. there was signed said, you know, with a credit card for whatever reasons the man would not take my american express credit card so i pulled up my visa car and he wouldn't take my visa card. so then i pulled out my travelers checks. he said, we don't take checks. i've told my daughter, you keep six
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months worth of cash. always where do you think he helped put any controversy over willis using cash to rest >> definitely think he did. i think he made a point when he said it's a black thing. i think it's a black thing. i think it's an immigrant thing, especially for older black people in this country who've been discriminated david, who could not depend on banks, who are skeptical of banks. a lot of people keep cash in. my community. it was something that is was pretty normal that people have stashes in their house friends would talk about the grand moms go on under the bid under the mattress and get helping them out with their tuition money it is a thing. so i think he came across as very credible. he's his testimony. he he's he's likable. he's credible. i think he hurt himself a little bit saying that he listened to the test testimony, but i really felt
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like he came across well and backed up. bonnie story, michael, obviously, which way do you think the judge is leaning and what are you hearing from? people close to fani willis >> judge, has been pretty sphinx like on this. he's he's very fair, very judicious as brushback, both sides. but he really hasn't tipped his hand on which way he's going i have to say i was a bit surprised that he opened the door to this evidentiary hearing, which is devolved into this inquiry into the sex life of the da and and the special prosecutor in charge of the case and it's distractive. a lot of people from the the underlying core issues here, which are quite serious and quite momentous. and that is the efforts by trump and his associates to overturn the results of the
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election in georgia. >> so we'll say it's all up to the judge. it's really hard to know which way he's going right now. >> all right. we could hear obviously early next week, we'll see. thank you both very much and next new video of rush arresting people who are mourning the reported death of top putin critic alexey navalny. investigative journalist christo grozev, who worked alongside nevada falling for years and has been digging into what happened, joins me exclusively next. plus the haunting images of noa argamani is kidnapping shocking the world and her father other now, opening up about his wife's dying wish, which is to see their daughter on more time. a lot how far would you go to control the fragrance in your home? there's an easier way. dry air wake vibrant with two times more natural essential oils, but up to 120 days amazing fragrance per dual pack. >> now that's a breath of fresh air >> i'm getting vaccinated visors, pneumococcal pneumonia
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sent? laila her money. >> you're >> worthy of more get started at worthy.com cnn saturday mornings starting tomorrow at eight on cnn >> tonight, more than 100 people detained throughout russia for attending vigils and rallies following the reported death of alexia navalny, putin's most powerful opponent, who just days ago urged prison workers to quote,
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vote against putin president biden tonight, laying the blame squarely at vladimir putin's feet make no mistake. make no mistake. >> putin >> in his last appearance, just a day before he died alexei navalny seem to have good spirits, choosing the judge in the court hearing. they appeared by video conference your honor, i will give you my personal account number so that you can send me money from your huge salary. he said i'm running. thanks to your decisions and jumped prison authorities say he collapsed on friday after his daily stake media says
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emergency teams called to his penal colony, tried to revive him for more than half an hour. >> still. >> the valleys family, uh, waiting for confirmation of his death? >> no. usually, at the problem >> which is true, i wouldn't put in and all his stuff everybody around him >> we just keep the regia has government, his friends is an island i want them to know that they will be punished for what they have done to our country. >> it's not just >> going to my family and to my husband would >> is my emotion at we estimate but the vowel is demise, sends yet another chilling message to the russian opposition a few brave being restrictions to lay flowers and widespread can you guess? what calms me? >> is that if you >> really died, his death will
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make his supporters had a bit stronger. says this woman and some pizzas but those nolan, when i learned about it, i was horrified and cried. says another now i just want to screen share >> can you check >> but we'd russian presidential elections just weeks away. vladimir putin seems unphased by the death of another prominent critic. he's visiting an industrial facility in the city of chelyabinsk, leaving his spokesman, dmitry pests gotten to the fields. nearly all good questions according to the rules of all necessary investigations underway, he told reporters later suggesting that much international reaction to the death is unjustified. but for many, blame is already being laid that the kremlin's door prone navalny protests are banned in russia, but in neighboring georgia and elsewhere, mourners are turning out to pay their respects and
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to voice their anger putin die, they're chanting. but it is his critics, it seems whose lives are snatched away well, erin, tonight across russia, it appears that the police are cracking down on those well-wishers that are turning out to pay their respects and to attend vigils and to lay flowers in memorial to alexey navalny ovn info, which is a group that monitors repression shan in russia, says more than 100 people across the country have been detained in moscow, st. petersburg, nizhny novgorod mermansk in the north and elsewhere as well, just gives you a sense of how broad is the sympathy for alexey navalny across russia tonight, right? >> to imagine the people who have the bravery to go out and take the chris. they're taking what that reflects underneath >> matthew chance. thank you very much. >> christo >> grozev, the investigative
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journalist, who all of you know, he's been here so many times, he exposed the plot to kill navalny and he is on putin's wanted list. speaking exclusively to outfront this evening and of course, so i'm so sorry for your loss. this was a dear friend, somebody you would worked tirelessly alongside. you exposed russian corruption together. i know that you are doing everything you can to find out what happened here. what do you know at this time? >> let's start with the obvious. i think president biden said it correctly today, whatever the actual granular truth is of how exactly navalny's dep came about this morning. if it's true, but we boldly evidence points to the fact that it is true then it is really putting who called cause the death because there are only two extreme hypothesis here. the most innocent one is that his dad came as a result of three years of torture, three years of slowly killing. and because of the unlawful
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anti-constitutional solitary confinement that he was put to, that is complete italy, unprecedented in russian, in the russian prison system, just over the last two years, he spent more than 300 days in solitary confinement, whereas the regulations suggest that you will be legal to hold the person even for two weeks in solitary confinement. but the putin's system found ways to keeping their more and more. he was deprived of medical care here he was deprived of any dallas nutrition even from the prison prison perspective, he was getting one loaf of bread per month and the rest of the time he was getting just snippets, but that is the innocent hypothesis. the most likely one, unfortunately, is that he was poisoned second time. now we don't have the evidence yet with what we have is circumstantial clues in that direction. one of them is that if they were chew that as the government has stated, that he fell down and killed, collapsed because of a blood clot. this
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morning during his walk in the prison yard. then where's the evidence to that? where is the visual evidence? all of the presence in russia are equipped with surveillance cameras. it's been 18 hours since this happened, and we haven't seen a thing again, this is just circumstantial that at this point everything points to the fact that he was killed. today on purpose. we're going to dig into that. we're going to ensure that we're going went to find out what happened to him. but again, the burden of proof that he was he died on his own is now on the kremlin's hands because four years ago, we proved they tried to kill them with chemical weapons with with novichok >> and do you have any sense as to why now? if they if it was poison again this time, why now, why putin would want that? now there are many, many reasons why now the elections in russia with the so-called elections in quotation marks are coming in about a month. and what we see is that even
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yesterday's jocular a statement from jay he'll from the courtroom essentially, navalny was making front of putin and he continues to be able to send messages. ii was continuing able to send messages that would the meeting to put an even from jail. but also what we did see in the last two months was an increasing anti-war protest movement especially by women wives and mothers of soldiers. and as we know, one of the strongest, probably the strongest voice against the war in ukrainian russia was navalny. so all of these are many reasons for the same outcome putin wanted him dead and, you know, one thing that always amazed me, speaking to his daughter, dasha, was his great love for his family, that despite >> this incredible commitment that he had, right. despite that, he went back to russia knowing that that meant he may never see his family again. he was incredibly devoted to them and they were devoted to him. and i asked dasha about the last time she hugged her
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father. here's what she told me >> i don't think i quite understood in the moment that it was the last time, but i would hug him in the near future. >> what would your message be for him? i know he won't see this, but if you were to see you now that we're we're fighting and >> we're doing everything we can to get him out. and then i ms him and i wanna i want to extend the message to everyone else who's watching that fighting for what's right is going to be hard. but it's never wrong. >> as it could only imagine the pride that a father would feel and his daughter doing that and taking those that courageousness that it took for his daughter to speak out and when you when you spent time with them and he was part of that documentary navalny that
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aired here on cnn. christo, he talked about going back, why he chose after being poisoned, going to germany, why he chose to go back. he said this >> my message for the situation when i'm killed is very simple, not give up. >> easily. slow. it does not change. then we near book nivea seemingly whether my me and she limine you >> if they decide to kill me, it means we are incredibly strong what are those words mean to you? now when you hear them from your friend tonight, christo these are problem words and i took them at a time as almost a joke. and now unfortunately, you just saw his own death and he sold the situation in which his words will rip reverb and echo with exactly the meeting that you have to continue this work for me because we've made it we've made them scared. we've made
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the small man at the kremlin scared and i think what we saw today, his wife actually proved in real time that she take to those words seriously, she went hours after finding out that her husband was killed by the crest of the country that she's a resident country a citizen of. she went to the stage of the munich security conference and she made a powerful speech, which i think she's poke us a future politician. i think she's focused somebody who will disappoint the people who thought that by removing an navalny from the, from the living they're going to remove his legacy and what he stood for >> christo. thank you very much. we all appreciate your time >> again, i'm sorry for the los >> and outfront. next, i'm going to speak to clarissa ward. she's done extensive reporting on alexey navalny, and she tracked down his alleged poison centers and
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spoke to navalny about the dangers of returning to russia >> you're aware of the risk of going back? >> yes, but i'm russian politician plus she became the face of the music festival that was attacked by hamas militants and the terror attack on october 7 tonight i'll speak to her father about how his faith it's helping him keep hope alive >> i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. now, there's sky rosie, things look in up. afghan. some control. macron's means everything feel significant symptom relief at four weeks
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the investigative website, bellingcat tying that poisoning directly to putin, uncovering the evidence that russia's security service, the fsb, had been following navalny for years. and then clarissa went to one of the fsb agents homes to question him men used with clarissa ward. cnn, my name's clarissa ward. i worked for cnn. can i ask you a couple of questions motion of them spreadsheet at the russia commander at the reveal and navalny, was it your team that poisoned navalny, please? do you have any comment? >> he doesn't seem to want to talk to us >> and clarissa is with me now. clarissa, you have interviewed navalny, you know, ben face-to-face, spent time together, done extensive reporting on him, connecting putin to that poisoning. >> you've got
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>> relationships with navalny and his wife, yulia. and obviously navalny was in court yesterday we can see him. >> he i mean, obviously he's been through horror over these past years, but he he was laughing, he was making comments, >> is telling prison officials to vote against putin and the upcoming election. when did you hear the news today? and was your reaction? >> i heard the news really just as it broke, it was around noon here in london, early morning us time and i think like so many people, it was this combination of shock and horror but also at the same time logically, not surprise. this is a man who the russian state had tried to kill with the lethal nerve agent novichok in the past, we know that many of putin's critics have met a grisly end so it wasn't surprising and yet it felt so
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horrifying, frankly, so grim, and like such a dark moment in russia's history and particularly of course, for russia's opposition and for the very brave men and women who have risked everything to to really put to president putin that they want a better future. they want a brighter future, and they want a freer future. and so it does feel like a very grim moment, although i know for a fact based on having spent time with alexei navalny, that he would very watch, want people to view this as a moment for optimism as well. and that he would hope his example would be common legacy, and that it would galvanize people to recommit, to supporting efforts to continue the fight for freedom, erin, which says everything about him in a way that people may admire hi there or just be sort of amazed that. but it is
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hard to understand the fact that he would go back when he had gotten out of russia, right? you spoke to him after he was poisoned. he knew going back to russia would be a risk. he knew that being killed again was a possibility in fact, given what had happened to him, perhaps the likelihood. and when you talk to him about that, here's how that went >> you've said that you want to go back to russia and i will do you're aware of the risks of going back? >> yes, but i'm russian politician and even when i was not just in hospital, i was in intense therapy. and i said publicly, i will go back and i will go back because i'm russian politician, i belong to this country and definitely which i especially now when this actually crime is cracked open, revealed. i understand the whole operation. i would never give putin such a gift. >> it's amazing to listen to
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those words right now as they resonate as he is dead. do you think clarissa, that we'll ever know exactly what happened? >> i think it's unlikely, erin, when you look at the circumstances of his poisoning with novichok and august of 2020, the minute he collapsed on that plane and his team in siberia found out about it. they rushed to the hotel room where he had been staying. they collected evidence. anything, the toothbrush that had left behind the towel that he had used and similarly, once he was medevaced out to germany, a team of doctors saved his life, but also did extensive testing, were able to conclude that novae chalk, that lethal nerve agent had been used on him in this day and age and this set of circumstances, it's hard to believe you will have that level of transparency or any kind of autopsy that would allow people to really know what happened >> clarissa. thank you very much next i'm going to speak
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minister benjamin netanyahu telling him there must be a ceasefire >> before any more israeli hostages can be released from gaza. it has been 133 days in captivity for the hostages. among them, noa argamani, >> her image. now, one of the most recognized in, the world. she is one of the most recognizable faces of the october 7 terror attacks. twenty-five-year-old noa argamani. and it's this video that haunts the world and her family know on the back of a motorcycle shouting, pleading for her life, saying to her captors don't kill me her father, yaakov, more than four months later, agonizing as he waits for word about his only daughter calling her his sweet child >> how do you >> manage having to hear and see that all of the time eviction i did the ceo, tony, about the tiktok-era when i saw the video, i think that well about the tore me on this are only daughter mining and liora's shut. >> when you >> see a video like this, it's simply crushes you. in this
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