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navalny? his widow is accusing the kremlin of of saying they are hiding his core plus outrage over his death and the official explanation is now growing. so willem inspire new opposition to vladimir putin's rule and navalny's death comes does russia is making gains in ukraine as kyiv faces critical ammunition shortages and the strain of keeping the ukrainian military on its feet is now being felt by the us army. we'll explain. >> and nasa is looking for some aspiring martians for a radical experiment, a simulated one-year mission to the red planet we're following these stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central >> president biden says that he may hit russia with more sanctions over the death of in prison and opposition leader alexey navalny. navalny's family and his legal team are
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demanding to see his body twice visiting the morgue, were they believe his body is being kept both times though they were turned away, told they will not see it for another two weeks navalny's widow alleges the delay is part of a deliberate cover-up. she says they are trying to let poison flush out of his system. remember it's widely believed that vladimir putin had russian agents attempt to kill navalny in 2020 by hiding a soviet era poison in his underwear listen to her message >> to a lever, and you see just in a cowardly way they're hiding his body, not showing to his mother, not giving to his mother. they are lying and they're waiting for the traces of another of putin's novichok to disappear, which color? >> now she's asking russians to share in her rage. this weekend, there were vigils and protests throughout the country and hundreds were reportedly rounded up by the putin regime. at the same time, russian troops are advancing in ukraine, taking a key eastern
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town after months of fighting, there with ammo and supplies running low for kyiv mostly crickets from the house of representatives. after the senate passed a foreign aid deal to bring $60 billion in aid to ukraine. lawmakers are on vacation with speaker mike johnson casting doubt on whether he's even to bring that bill to the floor let's take you now live to cnn's melissa bell, who's been tracking this. melissa. not surprisingly, it sounds like navalny's family is running into several roadblocks in their search for answers that's right. >> she's been speaking pointedly as you mentioned a moment ago in that video message than nine minutes of video that she's see in which she's seen really, for the first time making clear that she intends to carry on this fight and maybe even take center stage herself. but of course, she's in brussels where she's been meeting with lawmakers in the wake of her husband's death. it is the harrowing images that we've seen of his mother, alexey
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navalny's mother trying to get not just answers, but access to her son's corpse at the morgue in that town of cycle hard, which is about 50 kilometers from the penal colony where we know that lexeme valley took his final breaths on friday. and so many questions, of course, boris about how he could have gone from that last video appearance that we saw him in court make looking gaunt, looking emaciated, but still joking with the judge's without glint in his eyes to looking very much well. and how the next day he could have died. that is the question that the mother was trying to get some answers to what we understand is it is now going to be 14 days before anyone can have access to his body. and of course, this is because russian investigators have launched this inquiry, which gives them an opportunity to hold on to the body for longer that suggestion coming from alexei navalny's widow, that it is in order to allow the traces of the poison to go, that this is cynically but not now of course, novichok is nothing new
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as you mentioned, a soviet era poison that we've seen used repeatedly over the course of the last few years, either with russians who had gotten to prominence and worrisome for the regime abroad, or for people inside the country still. and indeed that was where alexey navalny had alleged that he'd been poisoned last time. it was in russia's far eastern siberia. those traces of novichok then proven by a german lab. and yet he had gone back to face what we now know turned out to be the paying of the highest price by alexey navalny. of course, the outpouring of grief that we're seeing. so tightly repressed over the course of the last few days. i think an important indication of what the kremlin was worried about. boris melissa bell. >> thank you so much for that update from paris, brianna. >> and now for the latest from the front lines in russia's invasion of ukraine, we have nick paton walsh in the southern part of ukraine for us, nic, russian troops capturing bring a town in the
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east, how big of a blow is this for kyiv's war effort >> yeah, i mean, really functions on two separate levels here. abdivka in the east is a place that's ukraine has been fighting to hold onto since russia first invaded ten years ago. but the fight has intensified in recent months as it became the focus of russia's often very brutal tactics, sending thousands of their troops often today death to try and retake a town of minor, moderate, significant, strategic importance. now, clearly it fell over the weekend when ukraine withdrew its forces. much telegraph as a potential place that's lenski, the ukrainian president, would indeed have to make. but it cut in two in the middle of the munich security conference where again, ukraine was trying to make a pitch to the united states. the somehow get through that congressional dysfunctionality in republican led congress to get that $60 moving. and so to ukrainian still waiting for that aid, seeing how the a lack of that aid translates into no
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ammunition on the front lines really slows down all the western support chains that have kept ukraine in the fight here, the fall of avdiivka potentially marks the beginning of something wider and more significant because it isn't just abdivka whether under pressure and we're now seeing potentially signs that the areas round that they've curve russia might be trying to push forward as well to the north around kharkiv in kupiansk town, which was retaken by ukraine just two years ago at the end of 2022, president zelenskyy was there trying to shore up support for the troops, tell them to fight on because there are deep concerns that is the next place where russia is going to push forwards. remember, the focus was abdivka now they have it, they can move those troops elsewhere. also in the south, not far from where i am near zaporizhzhia, a key village called robotyne there that was really one of the major gains are the only gains of a southern counter offensive in the summer, which would be much funded by nato and the west. well, that seems to be under russian pressure to then vuhledar the south of avdiyivka, and also areas around bakhmut, another town,
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russia, through everything out to retake in may of last year. these are also under pressure as well. and so i think there's something here where ukraine is trying to zero point out to the west at this shortage of ammunition on the frontlines is acute and mean something other than the political games that vice president kamala harris referred to in munich, people are losing their lives because of it, i should point out here we are in kherson in the south, but lights are off across the city because people are worried about russian drones and strikes on any light source that they see. so if a daily ukrainian, this is the case of a loss of life and loss of a relative and lots of a friend fighting on the front lines. and that is being accenture we waited as a fear now because of this slowdown or possible disappearance of american aid money, very real consequences here, certainly they're feeling it. and how does russia see? nick is russia likely to feel emboldened and ride what it sees is its current advantage into other battles
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yeah i mean look, it's important to point out that the catastrophically bad russia we saw at the start of the war. and indeed late 2022 has picked itself back up again. it's exceptionally brutal in its tactics. zelenskyy said that in the fight for avdiivka for every dead ukrainian, there were seven dead russians he claimed have no separate evidence that effect, but it's certainly borne out as an idea by the videos we have relentless wave sometimes of russian convicts who are paid to go to the front line and used in full frontal assaults by the russians. but russia has managed to get its military industrial complex running again is getting shells from even allies is as dark as north korea to try and keep its artillery functioning. while ukrainian guns are falling silent because of a shortage of that. so yes putin is seeing both his machine getting back on its feet again and the ukrainians running out of money on their side and their morale slowly chipped away by this extraordinary paralysis in washington. >> nick paton walsh from ukraine for us. thank you for the very latest there. >> boris >> let's get you now to the
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pentagon because we have some new reporting from cnn's natasha bertrand, natasha, you've learned that trying to help ukraine maintain its military footing has been straining the us army financially >> yeah, boris so speaking of that paralysis that nic was just speaking to in the us congress, the army, because there has been no new supplemental hello, passed by congress because there is no budget that has been passed by congress, either. the army has been having to pay really out-of-pocket for the training that continues to be done for the ukrainians, as well as for logistical support to transfer what remaining weaponry is in the pipe why an into ukraine itself. and so we're told that as of october of 2023, have about about a couple of months ago, the army has already spent almost 500, almost $500 million, half 1 billion to support these operations, including the training of the ukrainians and that logistical support. and that is coming from the budget of us us army, europe and africa. and that is
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really not sustainable because according to officials that we spoke to, they only have about $3 billion left to pay for about $5 billion worth of operations that they have to continue over the next several months and all else being equal, we are told they're essentially going to run out of money by may. now, the army is going to have to relocate a lot of the funds to support ukraine continue supporting them in this mission because it has been deemed mission-critical by the president. so essentially what they're going to have to do is they're going to have to shuffle funds around and that means taking money from perhaps ups less important things, but that are still important of course to us army personnel, like barracks construction, like enlistment incentives, like enlistment it recruitment events in order to pay for this ongoing fight, to help the ukrainians. now, army secretary christine warmouth, we spoke to her and she said, quote, every incremental dollar i have, it's a very important where i put that dollar. i'm constantly choosing between do we put it on barracks? do i put it on enlistment incentives?
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where do i put it on exercises? she said i don't have spare cash to just sort of be donating it. this was money that we anticipated to be replenished, obviously, by the supplemental obviously that supplemental is now in limbo natasha bertrand live from the pentagon. thanks for the reporting. >> brianna, we're joined now by retired brigadier general peter zwack. he's a wilson center global fellow at the kennedy and then institute general zwag, tell us why this town of divka that ukraine just lost to russian forces is so important and so symbolic a div has been a def con, has been part of >> ukrainian fight since 2014 when the first russian invasion occurred, i was in moscow at the time we were all tracking this very closely they bigger battles around donetsk the
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russians were pushing into the donbass. and ukrainian and, and were able to maintain a line with abdivka in holding half of a donetsk and lugansk now, ten years later, the russians, for the last nine months especially after the fall of bakhmut, think of vr done when you think of these places, are going all out for abdivka ukrainians have fought hard as they have in bakhmut. they're taking heavily, heavy the losses they are inflicting terrible losses on the russians. but the pressure is heavy. it's increasingly across the front, less ammunition for all important artillery, and less air defense. and the ukrainian defense is straining in creaky and abdivka is not going to be
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the end of the defense by being taken. it's important but not critical. but at the same point, it is a prestige victory especially for, but'm as was a bakhmut and as was mariopul if we all remember a year ago but the ukrainians going to withdraw more defensible lines and fight, but they're under normal strain for all the reasons both on the combat field and and supplies and international aide. >> and obviously there's this fight in washington over aid to ukraine the us army has been using friends from its europe and africa commands and shifting it to the fight in ukraine. but it's getting to the point where if congress doesn't pass aid to support ukraine, the army is going to be diverting money from things like barracks construction, and recruiting incentives.
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obviously, there's recruiting problem for the armed forces here in the us. explain why the us government would make that choice rather than just sort of throwing up its arms and saying, well, we can't send anymore for military aid to ukraine >> first of all, there are defense supplementals that can be passed, can make it a priority. we can do all these things, including the wall >> and if >> one former ex president said, i support ukraine, everything would open up. but he hates ukraine. >> remember trump was called out by by in 2019 on a phone call during the campaign that lead i do is first impeachment when he was trying to put pressure on zelenskyy >> so he has >> terrorized just republican party and their an end. it's blocked and he is this sherill about it. and his imad
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moderation for vladimir putin. i'm sorry to go on a track and it's all related we can do this. i think you would ask most senior american military and policymakers, commanders and policy if it would they support continuing to help ukraine and they would say, yes we are an amazing nation, briana, we all know it and we can make it happen. >> they give up things general like barracks, repair, much, much needed. >> why would why would >> that be a calculation where they would say this would make sense? we need to give up recruiting incentives. we need to shift those funds for now, this is actually more important. can you explain as you would to the american people? that calculation? >> i think we're on, i think we're looking at this as an existential issue. what is remarkable at this time is that nato, just had its ministerial.
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you've had the munich security conference. we have a huge nato exercise revolve i'm involved in god bless navalny was was killed just a few days ago. all of this should play in our domestic debate. the funds are there if they shipped them around or do a sample mental, i believe that can be done. the urgency of supporting ukraine at this time is i mean, we're all seeing it with the fall of abdivka and the increasing russian pressure, the increasing confidence seemingly with putin. and this is to our national interest and that needs to be pulled and sold to r us public of all stripes. again, the military, we need
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the barracks, we need the training and all that believe that we can balance it. but this is a time i don't want us in a year or two years having the big debate domestically, who lost ukraine and a really, really unsettled, unstable eastern europe. and in resurge and lead russia >> and that may be the reality if this doesn't happen general's wang. thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it. >> as always brianna >> i this hour, a sudden string of high-profile house republicans head for the exits, rattling lawmaker there's one gop congressman calling his party's time in the majority foolish. the reasons behind their growing frustration, plus the white house considers easing up on its key goal to get more electric vehicles on us roads. why the about-face and texas police are searching
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aid to ukraine and israel. that speaker johnson refused to take up cnn's melanie zanona has details on the stories of melanie. what are you hearing from house republicans who've decided that their time on capitol hill is up >> yeah. well, there are a lot of different factors that go into the decision like this. it is a very personal one. members have cited family reasons. some members are running for higher office but one thing that me and my colleague, annie greer really picked up on when we were reporting the story is that there is a deep level of frustration with just how dysfunctional this house majority has been. this session of congress from all of the chaotic speaker drama to even just their struggled to pass a basic procedural votes on the house or just take a look at whatat some members told us on the right record. ken buck, he's one of those retiring members said, we're not doing serious things. carlos jimenez, who was an ally of kevin mccarthy, told us, i thought that some of our members would be smarter. and steve womack, a veteran lawmaker, said we are fractured and it's not just the number of republicans who are retiring. it is really the
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caliber of the members who are retiring. there are five committee chairs alone who are deciding to call it quits. and that includes cathy mcmorris rodgers. she is the chairwoman of the energy and commerce committee, and she's not even term limited in that post. it's a very powerful position that many members spend their whole career is working to achieve. >> then >> there's mike gallagher, he's only 39 years old. he was long seen as a rising star in the gop, but he announced that he was retiring shortly after he voted against the impeachment of alejandro mayorkas, the homeland security secretary. so there's a lot of concern, boris, right now about what this means for the republican party a lot of these members have a ton of institutional knowledge that they will be taking out the door with them. >> and >> there's also concern for that governing wing and when you have those members leaving in their place, you have more hardline members like bob good. so just a lot of frustration, a lot of concerns about what this means for the up right now, boris. >> yeah. and yet some of those hardline members that you mentioned are actually thrilled about this. they wanted to see new blood in congress will see how it all turns out in the long term though, melodies no on capitol hill. thank you so
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much. we want to bring in senior data reporter harry enten for a closer look at this. harry, walk us through exactly how many people on capitol hill are headed to the exits yeah. >> boris, you know, melanie hit on the number of republicans they are leaving, but there are a ton of democrats who are also leaving the house. in fact, there are more democrats who are departing the house of representatives, them republicans, 25 democrats, 23 republicans. and that to me is the remarkable thing that's going on here. look, there are plenty of years when more republicans for tyre, a lot of republicans in years in which a lot of democrats retire. but the fact that you're getting a bunch on both sides, that is what so historically unusual here. in fact, i went back over the last 20 years or so and looked back to say, okay, at this point in congress, has was there at least 23 folks leaving on both sides of the aisle wars? this is the first time time it has happened this early since at least 2006. so something is clearly going awry for both sides of the aisle where a bunch of democrats and a bunch of republicans are
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saying, you know what, forget about it. we don't want to be members of the house anymore. >> well, obviously for each individual member, there might be different circumstances, kind of edging them out the door, but i'm wondering generally, is there an overarching theme as to why they're leaving? >> yeah, i mean, it's because congress isn't getting anything done, boris. i mean, look at the number of bills and resolutions that have been passed on right now through the congress. it's only been 39. that is a record low at this point since kong and congresses since 1,973, the prior law a decade ago, it was 83 so we're at less than had that level, right. so a lot of people have often complain outside of washington, washington doesn't get anything done. well, that is certainly being the case this time around. and in fact, it's not just that washington isn't getting anything done. it's that people hate washington and hate congress. i mean, what is congress's approval rating at this point? it's 19 in percent. so they're not doing anything. people hate congress. that's why they're getting out of there. a lot of them are boris,
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eight over two to 44, 44 right now, nearly all of california is under flood alerts. authorities are telling people to stay off the roads as the already silt state gets slammed. yet again with another storm. forecasters are warning that heavy rain damaging wind gusts and even rare tornadoes are possible this week let's get to cnn meteorologist chad myers has been monitoring all of this forest. a chad, what's in the forecast >> another two to three inches of rainfall for places that can't use any of it. there's just no place for this to soak in any rain that comes down today is absolutely going to run off in the snow will eventually be piling up in the scene that's the good news. but this is more of a rain event. and also as you mentioned, even the potential for some severe weather, including those wins and possibly even a tornado or two. now, most of the flooding is down here from santa barbara back over toward venture and even over toward where i was just a couple of weeks ago up here in north hollywood bel-air, still seeing those flood warnings now because even
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when i was standing there doing those live shots for you guys, i would watch a little rain shower or come by and the roads will be dry. but then all of a sudden, ten minutes later, the water was gushing down the street again because even a light rain shower head, no place to go. this is what it looked like in northern california. why do you stay off the roads? because especially at night, that would be very hard to see. there's the main highway right through northern california. so he have to be very careful just because the ground is now is just so, so saturated everywhere we go, we are in places now where we're eight inches above normal for this time of the month in places southern california. northern california, and right up through here you see these thunderstorms that swear some of them boris could rotate today. there could be an ef-1 or two tornado anywhere from napa, sonoma all the way down towards sacramento in that central valley, don't know well yet where, but there's still a possibility. no watches, no warnings for that right now. but the warnings and the watches are down for the
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gutters for good call a33 lee filter, revisit lee filter.com today >> hi, melanie zanona on capitol hill. and this is cnn an urgent search is underway for an 11 year-old in texas who has been missing now for four days, adraee cunningham >> disappeared thursday morning on her way to catch the school bus, a person of interest is now in custody a 42 year-old man who was arrested on friday for an unrelated charge. we have cnn's rosa flores, who was in livingston, texas near the search area. rosa, what can you tell us? what are you learning? >> well, brianna, i just talked to the mom of adraee cunningham and her message was for everybody to please pray and send positive thoughts towards this area, towards her daughter and hopes that her daughter can return home. now, i want to show you around because this is the neighborhood where she was last seen the 11 year-old girl just behind me. she was
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supposed to catch the bus. she never got on that bus, according to police, and she never made it to school. she never made it back home and police and authorities multiple agencies are concentrating their search efforts in this area here to my right, you can take a look. this is a lakefront community this is lake livingston. there are multiple areas on this slake that are being searched by authorities. now, we have a map to give you a sense of what this area looks like. and some of the key places where evidence has been found lake livingston, where you see where i am. this is where the little girl was last seen. but if you look south on that map, you'll be able to see that there's a well that's where the backpack that little audrey was wearing. that's where police found a red bright red backpack with if
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a hello kitty downstream where the trinity river meets i59, that's where searchers we're looking for clues, evidenced anything on sunday, and just to our north in this area is where they have been searching today. so there's been a lot of efforts to try try to find her. now, according to state police, there is a person of interest to 42 year-old man, but they say that while he's a person of interests, he has not been charged or arrested with any charges related to the disappearance of adraee cunningham. he's arrested in in custody on an unrelated he didn't charge for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. now, according to state police, the family of audrii cunningham is familiar with this person of interests that is the only thing that they will actually disclose at this point in time. now, state police is calling this a criminal investigation, but they won't go into the details. heels of what that means. they also say that they suspect foul play. they won't
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go into the details of what that means either. but again, the search here continues actually just also got off the phone with the fbi, brianna, who says that they do have investigators and resources here on the ground to help with the search and just to go back to what audrey cunningham, his mother just told me, she says that her daughter is beautiful. she just hopes that everybody can look at that picture and look at our daughter. and if anybody saw anything, if they can please call police brianna. >> clearly, a beautiful child there. thank you for that report. rosa, from livingston, texas for us now, to some of the other headlines we're watching this hour police in colorado are investigating two shooting deaths at the university of colorado as a >> double homicide the victims have been identified as selye montgomery and students samuel nop. police say the deaths do not appear to be a murder suicide, or the result of a random i'm attack. meantime, former president jimmy carter
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>> because of course, and a lot of it is social or social interactions, seeing how the group works together, see how things go. are there any conflicts and develop. this kind of thing we've been doing over the years, both at nasa and other places too. for example, some years ago the russians, they're big biomedical research institute held up r is 500, 500 day international study with representatives from different countries. and so i believe this is the longest one that we've done to date. we will do to date here at johnson space center in houston. so it'll be interesting. we learn a lot of these, a lot from these simulations. we also study hey, a lot from the analogs in the antarctic and
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also in the arctic circle on devon island, there's a small place there. we do research as well and talk to us about some of the physical and psychological challenges about being in such a closed in space with other people >> well, that's just it is. we learned from the space station experience and the russians learned even earlier than we did since they've been flying long-duration space station flights before we even had skylight girl group for people together in a closed environment for a long period of time and expect everything to work out. so there needs to be some consideration of the personality mix and that's one reason that we pay attention to these things during training, when we're selecting crews, putting cruise together for the international space station. and that's worked very well because even, you know, from your experience variances, maybe in college, when you decided you're going to get an apartment with your best friend and after a few months, your work friends anymore, not
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everyone can live in close quarters with each other. so that's part of what we're looking at. what happens on a mars mission, especially when you're going six months, there are six months back and a small spacecraft what are some of the psychosocial issues? genes that are going to come up. >> yeah, as i was reading this story, i was thinking to myself, it sounds a lot like being in a dorm room with someone you don't really know very well and all the myriad challenges that can come in a situation like that. notably though the requirements in the application they don't appear to be too rigorous. you have to be age 30 to 55 or not a us citizen or permanent resident. it doesn't really sound like they're looking for trained astronauts for this mission right? and that's one of the criticism is probably too harsh or word, but one of the comments on these kinds of studies is, are these people that you're selecting for these studies? it's who can take a year off and basically go be a part of it. are they representative of what you're astronaut community of people
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are going to be like and so another example that comes to mind. this is some years ago where we had the biosphere right in the desert and they had a lie issues with they're not only their facility, but with the interaction of the people inside and it didn't always work out well. so yeah, that's a fair comment on how representative will be volunteers be. you're not volunteers are going to be paid. i'm sure. but you know, how representative of a real astronaut crew will they be? >> yeah, i wonder how much they're going to be compensated. i mean, not be a bad gig if you want to get to learn a lot about yourself and how you deal with other people's in a closed area. leroy on the broader context, how much closer does this actually get us to the first human journey to mars? how significant is this? step along the way >> well, you know, every little bit accrete some knowledge. and so there is some value to doing these kinds of studies. but i
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have to say that probably the best place to do these kinds of studies is then the actual environment aboard the iss. so you've got people flying regularly, six-month missions now it's not the year-long mission that we're a year-and-a-half, at least long missions were envisioning since it takes around six months to get to mars and then say sixth or, or longer month surface de and then a six month return journey, you're talking about a much longer mission, but still, you're actually in the space environment with astronauts, with cosmonauts, with an international crew we're now, we're studying those interactions very carefully. >> like >> i said, we're very good about putting cruise together. we haven't haven't really had any issues any significant issues to date, but i don't want to take away from studies like this to say that they're not as valuable. they do add some value, but again, the cabin the odds of are these people really representative of the folks you're going to send a mars. frankly, you're probably going to send older
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people tomorrow's and not for any other reason. well, for many reasons, but probably the main reason is because of the radiation exposure the crews going to be exposed to on the way there on the surface and then on the way back, you want to send the older people. that's not certainly you don't want to send women of childbearing age and expose them to those levels of radiation. but even younger folks, you don't necessarily want to expose them to higher levels of radiation, whereas older folks, they're likely to maybe pass on from other causes before the radiation causes a problem. >> really fascinating perspective. leroy chiao, thanks so much. appreciate time >> yeah, my pleasure >> of course. >> a major outstanding question following his death, where is the body of alexey navalny? his widow is accusing the kremlin of a cover-up saying they are hiding it the latest details when we come back >> vegas, story of sin city,
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