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leaders condemned the death of a man who knew he was risking his life for the sake of his country donald trump apparently just couldn't resist making it all about. >> well, you know who >> sharing an article on his social media comparing himself to navalny. and going on a rant claiming that navalny's death made him quote aware of what is happening in our country, unquote, to take a look at a couple of key their word that may tell you what's really getting underneath donald trump's skin. judges, grossly unfair courtroom decisions. >> could >> that possibly have anything do with a 35 creativity 5 fine that he was hit with the new york fraud case combined with the $83 million judgment against him for defaming e. jean carroll only in trump world could the former president doesn't make navalny's death about him. >> i am talking in the perfect

>> person to weigh in on navalny and what it's like to speak truth to power or speak the truth about power as well. >> i want to >> bring an nba >> player. and as kanter freedom, he has an outspoken critic of human rights abuses in a big defender of democracy is called out. vladimir putin, as well as other leaders around the world, including the president of turkey, the country where he was raised and has faced backlash for speaking out and there. thank you so much for joining us this evening. just thinking about what you must be feeling when you hear about navalny's death, even he repeatedly said up to putin, never gave up his fight for democracy and his wife is vowing to continue that fight. what is your reaction to his death and his legacy? >> and forward >> you know, first of all, thank you for having me know along these spoke truth to power. i mean, he returned to russia after putin tried to poison him. and he knew he will be arrested. but he wanted to

set an example for millions of russians and others who are fighting for freedom and the most important thing we can do to honor navalny's legacy is to support ukraine because victory for ukraine can lead to freedom for russia when you look at this ns and think about how people are reacting, not just in terms of other >> foreign policy decisions and beyond, but there are those who are protesting, who have been trying to speak out to a, to the powers that be looking at the screen right now, people getting arrested in the snow violently apprehended and taken into custody city today, according to an independent russian human rights group, nearly 400 people have been detained, reportedly across russia for attending vigils and rallies in honor of him and the protests themselves. i'm wondering from your perspective are these feeling futile if putin is not held accountable we need to hold

>> dictators. and what i predict there is accountable and condemning this kind of dictated, dictatorships is not enough. we have to take concrete actions and pulling out all the western countries, nato allies, and democratic countries to actually start taking actions against dictatorship. a because they do not care about, are condemning. so we have to take concrete actions. >> i wonder without those actions look like have you given any thought to what that means? because i'm who protests might say why? >> i >> do the speaking out. i stand here and i protest because i can't have the weight of another government behind me what is the concrete movement look like? >> you know, we need to actually what i say concrete action is we need to put sanctions on individuals. maybe we can use some sanctions to individuals around putin and we can use magnitsky act to put pressure on somebody's people

around put them >> in a recent days now, you've probably heard former president trump sharing an opinion piece on social media. he, he actually compared himself to navalny. and if you saw that he also shared a video of hungary's authoritarian leader, viktor orban saying that he wants trump to be president when you think about the impact of that, just having the rubbing elbows are having those statements be made. what comes to mind for you? >> i think firstly, it comes to my mind is we need democracy around the world, that we need democracy, we need freedom all around the world. so we cannot euros dictators in wars anymore >> i'm wondering from a personal standpoint because i know i really started to follow your career all the more because of how outspoken you had become. you faced opposition, you faced threats

for taking a stand against anti democratic governments. even turning you into someone who was not welcomed by the government in a country where you were raised, right? i wonder personally what it feels like to speak up, knowing the consequences could be either being banned, so to speak, or even hurt met alone, injured and killed you know, freedom is not free and it definitely comes with consequences. and just because of i talked about the problems are happening in my home countries, turkey, they revoke my passport. they put my name on interpol list, and now i have 12 for us, warning for me in the last nine years. and just recently, turkish government put a bounty on my head and and my family had to publicly this one me, so they will leave them alone. but my dad was in jail, but huge. thanks to american government that put so much pressure from here to turkey. they had to let them go there are a lot of people are out there as

struggled and so we need to be their voice. so what i'm trying to do is i'm trying to be the voice of all those it's innocent people out there who don't have a voice and the one thing that i think the one word, one word, i'll our world is missing is empathy. so we need to definitely put a word more. >> how have you kept yourself safe? because it's grabbing it. you can't go to many countries, will make 20 or so countries are able to even get interpol. you said arrest warrants, a bounty on your head at one point in time. i mean, how do you keep yourself safe >> yeah. well, i have to actually be in touch with fbi in every every day and every country i go to, i had to let them know where i'm going. every city, every state i visit, i had to let fbi know where i'm going to actually fbi came to my house and they set up this thing called panic button and they said, whenever you feel uncomfortable, push that button will be there in two or three minutes. i mean, like i said, again, it comes with some consequences, but we have to stand up for this

authoritarian regimes out there i mean, just thinking about what you have to go, check, knew what the fbi panic buttons you you've spoken out against. corruption, you've spoken out in favor of democracy. i can only imagine the consequences for others who've spoken out with dreams, who are intending on really harming someone as well. what, what word of advice would you give to navalny's now widow, who has been continuously speaking up and also identifying putin as the reason for her husband's down you know, first tool, his family. i felt terrible. i feel terrible because the hardest thing about going against the dictator is the pain. you know, your family has to go through through to all his kids. you know, tarrio, the car and he sees his wife, yulia. i cannot imagine what you're going through, but you need to understand that the whole world

is with you and print for you guys and your dad's bravery is strength. we're unique in this world and so he inspired millions of people and we're just praying for, for you guys, for sure. >> i really inspiration as you see from those who are showing out for protests and vigils. but i wonder if the inspiration is enough for you to not feel afraid for her safety yeah. >> i mean, like i said, again, you know, all we have to do just keep standing up against the dictatorships because the freedom caucus with consequences. so whatever happens, we can never, ever give up and kanter freedom. thank you so much for joining. i can't imagine what it is like for you. we talk about speaking truth to power. i wonder if anyone anticipates their risks and the sustained ones that you've experienced. and so many others. thank you so much. >> no, thank you. to cnn found before gear media platform to talk about human rights violations. i appreciate that.

>> thank you and in the midst of all of this, let's not forget, we've actually gotten election going on and talk about democracy abroad. democracy in action here in the united states and what it means, it's particularly after former president has claimed that we don't have free and fair elections while he is going to be a part of a primary and a state called south carolina on saturday, the big question will nikki haley stay in the race even if she loses in her home state? what she's saying about all that tonight, we're gonna talk about next the story of sin city. sunday at ten on cnn

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overwhelming margin i think trump is mentally diminished. everything he touches. we lose, we're seeing all these things happen, and trump's doing late-night rants about his court cases. he's going to be in court for the rest of the year. we can't be distracted. i don't know why he keeps getting weaken the knees when it comes to russia, how many more times? do we have to lose before we say maybe he's the problem >> well that primary is coming this saturday, this saturday. i want to bring in republican strategist, shermichael singleton former deputy chief of staff of housing and urban development under president trump, also here. so there's liberal commentator ashley allison, who served as the national coalitions director for the biden harris 2020 campaign. okay. everyone is monday. >> saturday is the big de the real question. of course. >> she waited until now and the last month or so to really ramp up all of her attacks against trump. of course, you got to wonder what took so long. she said in the past, well, now

he's my focus. everyone's out of the race she's going to deliver a state of the race speech tomorrow. you've been talking to activists in south carolina. what's happening on the ground is their support for not a lot of support at all. >> almost all of the elected officials statewide, locally, federal have all endorsed trump most of the senior recognized passes of mega churches in south carolina and i have also sort of instructed their parishioners to get behind the former president >> why is that? why not? haley >> nikki haley for many of those conservatives don't speak the type of language in terms of politics traditionally speaking, that they want. and by that i mean they want someone to take a complete wrecking ball to the political establishment and they see trump as being that individual they recognize that trump has some false on a whole host of issues. if you really talk to many of the evangelicals, but they will say, i don't particularly care about those things because i am relevant. again, because of donald trump and there is a level of truth to that, if you will. so nikki haley, she's viewed as one

person, said, she's a global plus and those of us in south carolina where tide of republican globalist. so we're just not getting behind her >> you know what, you're saying that i've always kind of chuckled thinking about who would be the quintessential establishment person, ms the president of how much more established. but can you get them being the president doesn't ease the former president and yet it doesn't seem to stick on him for whatever reason. but if you're wondering, i think you, haley ashley is going to step down after saturday if she doesn't win, she is vowing tonight to stay in the race because you for tuesday, less and less >> i promise you this. on sunday, i'm headed to michigan and then we're going to super tuesday states and we're going to keep ongoing while, she's promising you this, what do you make of that promise >> i don't intend to hold nikki haley accountable for any of her promises because i don't really think that's our track record. >> look, if nikki >> haley's donors stay behind her through super tuesday, then she'll probably stay in the race. most folks who can't win a primary all right, our caucus

drop out because they're funding dries up and they can't afford their staff in the apparatus to actually win. but that's not the case when nikki haley, right now, most donors would have bailed at this point, but they're still supporting her and they're still so stay in the race >> but what's behind that, that that's what kyiv trying to understand. >> is it because as xi in the race, because she thinks that look, she's kinda the alternative olympian here and maybe somebody i don't know might have a doping thing. they might have an issue that might break a leg. and then you've got her in the actual olympics again, that was happening, perhaps, but i think that there is portion probably not the majority, but a portion of republicans who really do want to walk away from donald trump and nikki haley is their best shot. now as a democrat, looking at this, i want to see what happens in michigan then if she's still in the race on for that primary or what happens in super tuesday because it can give a tell a little bit of where the republican electorate it is and for the general than what democrats need to do to speak to folks in particular battleground states.

>> but at >> the money is there nikki is probably going to stay at it doesn't seem like she's going more blows now than she ever has before just not really focused on party unity and the republican party isn't compromised. >> her chances for the future. if, if she were, i know everyone's always think about the next it's race. yeah, it's talking about get out now while you have some level of political respect, if you're not really winning, because maybe in 2028 you got a better deal going on. is that her issue? >> what >> leverage, which she have gone into 2020. i mean, i think someone should pension nikki haley's so wicker from your dream and live in reality the reality is, there isn't a path for you. most of her megadonors have already pulled away from route, believe there's only only two or three from my understanding that are remaining and at least two out of those three are saying after south carolina, they're moving on. the donald trump because they recognize it's a waste of money and eyes of many gop, likely primary voters, she has become a nuisance candidate. they see her as someone who is standing in a way from the guy that they want to give another opportunity. and if i were advising office but look, we should start focusing on 2028 go ahead and do what we have to

do this are building up the apparatus, write some books, get on the speaking circuit, join some boards or whatever we can, the best position you because it's gonna be a very competitive fill on the republican side, she's not thinking about those things. >> that's hard though, that is really hard to stay in the limelight if you are a republican candidate who is not in office, and that is what nikki haley is right now. so she is trying to i understand the maybe the nuisance right now, but there are still some republicans who want an alternative and could give her the benefit of the doubt when donald trump can no longer be a candidate because he's behind bars because he has one and is not able to have a second term or term or because the republican party has done him to the wayside eventually, and that she could they say, well, she stood in there, she held her weight and i'm going to now pop pop behind her. but for years is a long way to tell. >> i bet if donald trump were to call her and say after south carolina, i'm willing to consider you to be my running mate. i bet nikki haley was say, okay. >> i'd put money on it. >> yeah. >> but she was talking about

because i got i gotta carry republicans right now. but what i she would probably say, i need a guarantee, i need a public guarantee, not even contention. i you know, why would i do that? >> all right, what we're gonna take a commercial break, i'm going to count up how much money was talking about right now. and that's what i would bet anything on politics >> sure. michael ashley. thank you both so much luck. former president trump is facing a hefty legal bills. we can about a lot of cash after his new york civil fraud trial to two-and-a-half, 300 million plus interests >> how's he going to put it all? >> you've got harry enten at the magic wall to explain next very sorry to hear about your father. father, mother. thank you. well, that's a little better. >> that's so let you go >> you always have to be the center of attention. >> i have to accept that you're

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>> king charles, wednesday, it's on cnn >> well to the surprise of precisely no one donald trump is vowing to appeal this after in new york judge ordered him to pay 300 there are 55 million plus interest for fraudulently inflating the value of his properties. now, he's also barred from serving in a top role in any new york company over the next three years. so what exactly does he owe? >> and >> maybe the big question, how will he pay for all of it? cnn's harry enten is at the magic wall hoping you'll answer that question where it's a huge financial penalty. so break this down for us. i mean, where is it coming out of whose pocket? who's going to have to pay? is it really trump? >> well, you know, laura, you mentioned that interest and you mentioned the recent ruling, of course, against trump in new york, but also add in the e jean carroll, and now you're looking at recent legal judgments that trump may have to pay $500 million or more.

now you look at his net worth per forbes, its 2.6 billion with a b, now 500 million is less than 2.6 billion. but even for somebody like donald trump, that is a pretty significant if it can chunk of change and it comes at a time. i've been looking at the forbes list, were in fact his net worth is down a little bit less than $1 billion from where it was a year ago. so the fact is he's been losing wealth and now it looks like he may lose even more wealth >> so will he be able to raise this money? i mean, there's no requirement he has to be the person to be the supplier exclusively of this money. could he raise it because every time he has a legal issue, he seems to raise money and it's exactly right. i mean, take a look at during the campaign, all right, what do we see here? trump's two biggest fundraising days he raised about 4 million on each day when trump was arraigned in manhattan court. and also when trump was booked in fulton county jail, remember that infamous mug shot there. so the fact is trump has been able to raise a lot of money

during his campaign when he has been in legal problems. we'll see if this is the latest example of that, or perhaps, perhaps he's run out the well as run a little bit dry. we'll just have to wait and see, but he has raised a lot of money before from from his donors when he's in legal trouble, had you not said well, i was going to quote voice demand and not wait for that water to run dry. it's a heck of a song, but there is somebody else in his future right now. i hear that he has dare i say a new venture. i mean, forget real estate he now has sneakers. >> yeah, he has sneakers, laura, so you know, you mentioned the idea essentially. okay. how is trump going arrays all of this money? how about selling some never surrender high cops, golden 399 compared to nike switch sell on average for $80. so this seems like a lot more money and this is just generally in line with what trump has done historically speaking, other merchandise trump assault. remember trump stakes. i'm raising the stakes. trump cologne, trump ice water, trump mattresses, and trump vodka, which after this segment, i might need a

little bit of. so he's done a lot of fundraising and a lot of raising of wealth through perhaps some untraditional means for a former president i would like to know which pair of nike's that my son keeps buying only cost $8 i'm curious if i'm those nike's, but we'll see what's have maybe i'm missing a sale rack of some kind and 11 got a size and 11 and-a-half shoe. so maybe i'm just bitter. harry enten. thank you so much. my pleasure. ninth, the air jordans is it sure is not tell you that right now. harry has always talking to you by well, let's bring in the chairman of o'leary ventures shark tank, judge, kevin o'leary. kevin, so good to see you this evening. i mean, let me just jump right in here. last time you and i spoke about the possibility bility of what the fine could be in this case. we now know what it is. >> it's more than >> 350 million bucks. that's a huge financial hit and i'm wondering, where is he going to get this money >> actually, it's closer to

half billion with a 9% interest. assume it'll take 18 to two years actually settle this in an appeal which i think it should be appealed. hill work hard to raise it. i think he can do it. >> but what i don't think this >> case is about trump anymore at all because you heard the governor of new york come out yesterday and say, look everybody, don't be scared about doing business in new york barack because the only people we prosecute, our people like donald trump, who don't behave well. that didn't go over very well with the investment community because we're all asking each other who's next this was a victimless crime. nobody lost any money. and a judge out of nowhere put on a $355,000,000 penalty. i mean, who's next? >> so if you say i don't want to cut you off, but i hear about the so-called victimless crimes, but the laws on the books falsifications of business records and

second-degree issuing false financial statements, insurance fraud, conspiracy, and all these different acids effects of it. those are actual crimes. i take your point is that these should not have been prosecuted >> know my point is there's never been a case like this is 75 years. everything you just listed off as done by every real estate developer, everywhere on earth in every city. this has never, ever been prosecuted. but here's the real point that people in new york concern themselves with. you can put your money anywhere. i'm a real estate developer. do you think there's a chance i would ever take a chance on new york again new york is turning itself into a flyover state i have to build data centers now, i'm not going to go to new york. new york has power it's got fiber optics, it's gotten niagara falls. but no, we're not even thinking about it. we're going to places that have the exact same thing where we have rational governors that have never done this to investors this is about new york and its people. if i were

new york today and i was living there, i would ask myself, maybe we should hire better management. why is this happening to us? why are we becoming a flyover state? why are concerned about putting their money there? >> but sudden you ask that those people also we take those first of all, i do wonder how many people take issue with the idea that every investor is engaged in falsifying business records at every investor is engaged in what has been accused of donald trump and the trump organization because there's probably a lot horror saying themselves. i've never falsified my business records. i know what a square foot looks like. i know what back and ask for and what i have the money to support. so i wonder to what extent that really is true when the second point wouldn't there be many companies who would not want to do business or loan money that people like yourself for investors. if they know that they can get away with fraud and there's no recourse to check them >> excuse me, what fraud? this

is not about trump anymore. when you get a developer, when you get a developer that builds a building and he says it's worth $400 million and he wants to borrow 200 million from a bank which happens every day everywhere on earth, including every american city. every developers and entrepreneur, they shine the light on their building and they say it's worth 400. the bank does its own due diligence, as was done in this case, because they're very good at at the banks are very good and they say no, it's worth 300. were only going alone you 150 million that haggling has gone on for decades. that's how it works. >> and >> then in this case, even the bank that was supposedly defrauded testified and said we didn't lose anything. we want to do business with this guy again we'd like to, but the judge said no, no, no, no, no, no. let's penalize this developer for 355 million and we're going to do that let's penalize all the developers, all across america. they've all done the same thing. all of

them should go to jail and we should stop building buildings that's what the messages from new york, even the governor herself is concerned about what this looks like to investors all around the world. it's not just us domestic, all around the world. people are talking about what happened here. you really think people want to invest money in new york after this. how about we go somewhere high bar to who would i don't want to cut you off, but i want to converse. is dead. it's only because i want to have a conversation. you know what we're i respect to because you're a lawyer, you're a lawyer. you understand exactly what i'm talking about. >> i gotta tell you. i'm respectable for a number of reasons. kevin o'leary, but being a lawyer is one of those issues, but i'd tell you when i when i hear your conversation and i do want to converse with you about this point i understand that there are legitimate concerns that were raised during the trial and will continue to be raised about who the quote, unquote what, who is actually bringing the suit wasn't the banks who

were saying that we as consumers are unsophisticated, feel this way. but letitia james, the attorney general, and i know you want expand beyond trump, has suggested well, it's about making the playing field level for those who are not the major and billionaire investors, but for those who are supposed to put business records out there, want to get alone. the idea of making sure that they have to have the same is true statements included as those who have a lot more money. is there any weight to that for you? >> well, i asked you, who lost money i make it even clearer you and i were developing a data center together and i say to you, we can go to new york where this just happened. it's your money now. you're now an investor and you're taking risks, are an entrepreneur with me right beside me were together on the deal or i can show you oklahoma, north dakota, west virginia, where the governor's actually ran businesses let's go there where this never happened before. they have power, they have permits, they've got

legislation that's supportive of much of an worship why would we go to new york? why take the risk? my only point is, did we just diminish the great state of new york and the great people of new york, and shouldn't they ask for better management? so they don't become a flyover state. remember, new york has the highest taxes in the country, the worst regulatory environment. and it's incredibly mismanaged and pointing out now on top of that, you get this insanity. a victimless crime at forget about trump. it's not about trump. i don't care about trump in this i care about america, and i care about entrepreneurship. and i care about democracy and the fairness the judicial system is now being criticized. people are asking themselves the bar of new york is this judge rational to charge 355 million in a case where no one lost any money. is that good for the people of new york? should the people of new york wake up to this and say what's happening

to us? why is this becoming so perverse? why are we the focus of this injustice? and i've nothing to do with trump. i'm not supporting trump. i'm supporting american entrepreneurship and new york is slowly becoming the number one loser state in america i'm sorry, that's what's happening. >> well, that's news to the city that doesn't sleep, but i'll tell you what the governor has said that legitimate business operations have nothing to worry about ai as an attorney, i'm looking at this issue wondering what the appeals process will look like because they're going to delve into that very topic that you have raised are going to talk about perhaps the novelty of this being as you described i'm not brought on behalf of unsophisticated consumers who may have been do, but decisions made by loan entities who wanted to engage in business with this particular organization, that would be my god, put my hand. i want to put up my hand and ask governor

who's next, who are you going after next? >> what's your hand up for that? kevin put your hand down and that's the question. >> what do you mean every, every entrepreneur in new york is saying, am i next? who's next? >> well, let me ask you this because i you want to talk about trump, but i have to ask you because you're a businessman who likes talk about licensing. >> do >> you currently own or will you be buying one of these gold sneakers? >> thank you >> it's very expensive. but you have to hedge >> okay >> you have to, and i collect watches two of them right here, i'd rather buy a watch >> do you have to watch? okay. well, you know what time it is, all right, fine. kevin o'leary, like you and your two watches go. we'll talk again. there'll be other times for us to speak. thanks, kevin jake, care about my next and intense three point shootout. i should've mentioned dame time de him dealing her time like this that the next

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boundaries he wanted to shoot me >> she's >> been a ball wnba called the smaller she shot with the who shot from the live here dolphin as a men's team >> i should know if it cnt and cnn shared the same parent company. it's not went out with jemel help contributing writer at the atlantic and hosted the jamil hill is unbothered podcast. so gmail, were you bothered by the comments are unbothered by them? >> great to be with you. >> this >> i know kenny a little bit and he doesn't have the reputation as far as i'm aware of being some raging or undercover sexes but just like any broadcaster sometimes you can say things that i thought listen, i thought what he said it was pretty thoughtless. and i think for it immediately to pivot to this point automatically. and maybe this wasn't his intention of undermining what she did right there in what should have been a celebratory moment, i also couldn't really follow the

logic. >> you, sabrina >> by her own admission when she practices she practices from the mid three point line. >> okay. >> and a lot of women's players who play in the wwe to be they practice against men shooting, a shooting and this was her opportunity on a relatively level playing field to show how she'd measured up against one of the best or excuse me. let me correct myself. the greatest shooter in nba history. and as we see, she came pretty close. now here's the thing actually done with kitty city it had been at the wnba line and let's say she'd beads stuff. everybody would have undermined that or even with her coming within a few points, a lot of people would've said, well, she only can be looked up within a couple of points because she was playing from a different line. it's like sometimes women can't win for losing its height. you never have you do, you're if we know but i thought she represented the wnba and women's players and women's basketball over wall. very, very well. >> i thought she did it again, she said that bar pretty high

wasn't that around the same points that dame also got me, lillard in terms of how he won the competition. obviously, it was a different set of events i'm there but still it's a significant number, but i do want especially given the whole point gml was to really showcase and i thought staff was deferential to her. she's deferential to him. they had a mutual level of respect. it was jarring not to hear that coming through the commentary as well. so what happens now? what should happen now? >> well, i think we also have to remember, i mean, not only was her score easily equal to or in the territory, damon lillard it to win the three-point contest this year i believe it was last year where she said a record or a man or male or female player with 37 points in the wnba? three-point contest, i just think going into the commentary, as we get to a point, we see the popularity of women's basketball continue to explode a star like caitlin clark is taking game in a new direction,

is that we have to get more commentators. and this is no disrespect to kanye spits kenny smith, but candace parker is celebrated wnba player hall of fame level player in cwa champion is right there and is at&t broadcaster. there has to be more women if we're going to continue to have these events. and stephen, sabrina talked about doing this again next year when the nba all-star game is in san francisco i think it would be in their best interests if they had a women's player there who played in the wnba, who is able to offer analysis and critique of what we're seeing >> or maybe just a commentator who appreciated the expertise, skill, athleticism of everyone on the court at each moment. jamil, i nominate you >> and listen. i will gladly take that job a voluntary right now right here is tribute

>> at the nba all-star game next year. and they'd run it back. i will happily volunteer has kind of a stroke onward, but i happily offer my services >> well, something tells me we would have heard a very different comments. eight again, you and i in this business, we know full well that when the mic is on, they're going to be moments that you're proud of and moments that you're not as proud of. i hope at any point though, it's a learning opportunity, i had my daughter and my son listening and they had questions about the commentary and i want him to focus on what happened on the court and that was the problem. jamil hill. thank you so much >> we'll be right back >> vegas the story of sin city. sunday at ten on cnn. >> why choose asleep numbers, smart bet, and keeping warm when i'm cold. >> wait, no, i'm always hot. >> sleep number doesn't match. >> can i make my side softer >> i think my side firmer speak number. does that can i help us sleep better and better

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no down now you may have seen biance rocking a cowboy hat for a while. now, let's could be wife. queen bee has released two signals, singles now from her new album at two that have a bit of wealth twain to them. yeah, biance is going countries i would say, she's going back to country and has not come without some controversy. a radio station oklahoma, initially denying a fans request to play her new song, texas. hold him saying, well, their country music station, the new york times reports station manager ended up playing the song after backlash on social media, joining me now is michael eric dyson, professor of african-american and diaspora studies at vanderbilt university and has even taught a few biance classes. so michael, so good to see you tonight. glad you're here. look, black artists have been sidelined from country for years, which is interesting

given the history of country music. will this move the needle in some way? >> it's great. to be, here laura, i think so. you know, i'm a big country music fan. karla winfrey and henry giles 20 years ago made a documentary waiting in the wings and i participated in that. my dad is from albany, georgia, mother from his abella bama, there was country music all in our home and there have been many country musicians. think about ray charles, who really transformed country music, modern sounds of country and western. they would refuse to play him on the country music stations. >> and >> yet he articulated to the broader society, the noble aesthetic at the heart of what used to be called hillbilly music. so there are many other black like artists who deserve to be heard, receive palmer or think about the great group of the duo, war and the treaty i think those figures will be served well by biance being played on these country music stations, most of which are playing her only a few have

decided not to. but i think she will open up a huge wall and create an opportunity for other artists who have been doing this for years and decades to be heard there's and think about how there are other artists who go from >> country to say other genres with fluidity. taylor swift comes to mind as but one example. >> why >> do you think the other way around seems to be so difficult? is it because it is a black woman who's doing it? >> well, yeah. >> i mean, her husband, jay-z, stood up in reprimanded the academy of recording music for not awarding her the ultimate prize now the irony is the paradox is that she's been the most awarded person in the history of the grammys, but it's been kind of ghettoized you can do dance, you can do other kinds of things, but you can't really be rewarded for the great prize of great artistic achievement. so, yeah that's to a degree true. but

the great nia mcneil, who is the director of industry relations and diversity at the country music association, invited me to a black excellence brunch during country for country music association and the country music fest had a bunch of black artists who white audiences were clamoring to here. so i think yet some of the prejudice, some of the bias in some of the not being used to the fact that this is old black music, the fiddle, the banjo deriving from african antecedents this is black music and look, i listened to the oh hank williams. hey, good looking what you got cooking house about cooking something up with me, patsy cline you know, i went to see george strait and almost got an electric storm here here in nashville. so yes, i think it will open up some minds, some eyes, and some hearts to the fact that this is american music at its best in an artist should be able to go from jazz to pop the blues, the hip up, and to country music. after all, black folk guard the heart

and soul of that music as well. >> let me find out. michael eric dyson got a whole cowboy boots collection is house >> i >> michael eric dyson, always a pleasure. >> thank you so much for having >> well, thank you all for watching. i'll be live on instagram at the laura coates is a couple of minutes and my after show, i will not be seeing country, but be sure to tune in nonetheless, and we have more of biance is new sound you hear as our coverage continues >> 160 dr. gave me breaths tree for my copd. >> things changed for me, brace >> treat me better breathing symptom improvement and reduce flare-ups. >> restaurant what replays a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems, it is not gerasimov. tell your dr. if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it, don't take breaths, train more than prescribed restaurant history may increase your risk of thrush pneumonia and

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