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you deserve, 800 to eight to 44, 44 all right. >> you are never going to believe why donald trump thinks that black voters, like friday night, unlocked marco is live >> it's been a crazy week ingests when you think you've heard it all tonight, donald trump says this >> i got indicted for nothing for something that is nothing they were doing it because it's election interference. and then i got indicted a second time, third time, and a fourth time. >> and a >> lot of people said that that's why the black people like because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against. they actually viewed me as i'm being discriminated against can you get more

insulting? >> do you >> do you really think that people like you because you were indicted because there is some suggestion that's being made here that people see themselves in you. he's just like me, i too, have been indicted that discrimination and all that accompanies it can be reduced to what your experience has been i guess stereotypes might be the new platform here. forget a family man, forget a businessman, forget actual policies you might hold and want to put out into the universe. know, you must like me because you to have had a run in with the law well, why isn't that the pitch for all voters, right he has said that he is the outside of the consummate outsider outside the establishment why is think that only appeals maybe or that's why black voters like you cannot make this up. you realize it's coming from a political front runner. he's hoping to get more votes, not

alienate voters. it tells you what is wrong with where we are today you know earlier today, president joe biden's campaign made this statement calling trump. >> well, the poster, the proud poster boy for modern racism. now, i'm going to let you decide whether he is in fact as advertised that's up to you to make that conclusion or not. >> but what he is selling, he hopes black voters are buying, but they are a monolith that they too face indictments that they think of discrimination only as it relates to the cases perhaps against him. and that's enough for them that that is his final pitch in the wee small hours of the morning to voters, at least hours before the polls open in south carolina, to which you have to say what the friday is this? >> i want to bring nikki haley's campaign manager, betsy ankney. we've got a lot to get to, but first, i wanted to talk about obviously, you're

a candidate. nikki haley, and who you support. and of course, the trajectory of her potential success in south carolina. but i have to get your reaction to this suggests that trump made just moments to go at a rally. by the way, around alley where black people and many were in the audience, that they liked him because he was indicted and that he is the poster child of discrimination as a result, what is your response to that? >> well, first, thank you for having me and i think what you just showed is exactly why 70% of americans do not want a trump-biden rematch. >> this >> is just more of the same chaos, more of the same drama, more of the same baggage. and it's exactly why 70% of americans want something different and want something new that's what nikki haley has to offer. so we are running through the tape here in south carolina nikki is taking her message to every corner of the state and i think what you just showed shows the fact that there's just more chaos and more of the same with both

trump and biden as relates to president biden, he made the statement of the campaign about the poster child comment about one donald trump. i do wonder what you make of the president, and i'd say it's making that statement. and though his campaign, of course. >> again >> donald trump i think it shows that joe biden does not want to run against nikki haley. i think he very much wants this very quickly to be a rematch against trump. he beat him once he can beat him again. and so i think that he's trying to focus all of his fire on donald trump right now because he wants this to quickly become a race between him i mean trump, but nikki haley is continuing to fight. we know that there is a better way joe biden and the democrats have said that nikki haley is their worst nightmare because they know that she can win. and so that's what we're focused on, and that's what we're fighting for every day >> let me ask you, just while we're speaking about these comments tonight that have emerged really today and tonight about race nikki haley has had some difficulties with

the race issue and answering questions and a variety of ways, particularly about the civil war com, i need not remind you of what that is but i'm wondering, why do you think this continues to be top of mind for many voters as it relates nikki haley and not what she is hoping they will focus on. >> so nikki haley is the daughter of indian immigrants. she was the first female minority governor in the country >> and she led the >> state of south carolina through some very tough times. she brought down the confederate flag. and so i think that nikki haley understands more than anyone what these issues mean. and i think she is someone who can unite the country the way that she united the state of south carolina and really bring us together and move forward in a positive way, in a way that's focused on the future and a positive vision >> well not to belabor the point, but that is better. maybe your answer has been one that is much more resolving in some respects than she's been able to accomplish. what are the voters, judge that very

notion from race to the actual race tomorrow though, let's talk about that. shall we? because this is an opportunity for nikki haley to prove that she's got deeper support than what the poll say. and i'm i'm not someone who only looks at the polls. i want to know what the actual voters have to say, but the polls right now have her trailing by 35 points behind trump. >> i >> am wondering if there is concern in her campaign and with you tonight about that gap at the polls currently suggests that actually translates to the election. and she doesn't take her own state. can she stay in the race >> so nikki haley gave a speech on tuesday talking about that very issue. we are moving forward. we are moving on to super tuesday. we are headed to michigan the day after south carolina and look, 200,000 people have already voted in the state of south carolina and we are focused on making sure that we sprint through the tape here. and again, this is about

who can ultimately win a general election and bring together the country and so we are focused on the fight ahead. we are clear-eyed about the challenges this is, as nikki said, david versus goliath, but she has them the underdog her entire life. she has defied expectations, her entire life, and throughout this entire race. >> and >> so we will see you in michigan on sunday night and beyond that. >> well, i want to talk to you about an issue that obviously has a very big part of the conversation and she herself has brought up i've recently it's about what's going on an alabama obviously not her home state. but the issue in a post-dobbs world of abortion and of course, reproductive rights is very top of mind for voters across the aisles. alabama ivf ruling. former governor, first appeared to back it, saying that she believes frozen embryos are children but then there was backlash, of course, and then it seemed that she qualified her remarks and this is what she told jake tapper just yesterday >> i think that the court was doing it based on the law, and

i think alabama needs to go back and look at the law. this is incredibly personal to me because i had both of my children with for until it we don't want them to stop doing ivf treatments. we don't want them to stop doing artificial insemination. we want to make sure that people are able to have these blessings. but i think this is and needs to be decided on the people in every state. i personally believe an embryo was a baby, not everybody's going to agree that an embryo was a baby, but that's why parents need to be able to have the decision on how they're going to handle those embryos so if she tried to have it both ways when she believed the law needs to change >> i think what you heard nikki say is what she has said on these issues all along, she approaches it from a place of compassion. she went through issues, having her two children, she understands those those challenges, and she also understands the importance of making sure that women and families have ivf in those treatments available to them.

so no, it's not about having it both ways. it's about making sure that you are approaching these issues with compassion and consensus and understanding that everyone has a storied italian, everyone has their own issues. and nikki is someone who both did have issues having two children understands the importance of that and wants to make sure that women and families across the country have that available to them as well. >> i think it's really important the way that she has personalized when she has responded about this issue and has really been eye-opening for so many people on a similar journey. but speaking of consensus she has said that she would back a nationwide abortion ban, but then she also said that it's not a winning issue. is there a disconnect there between what she would believe and what she would support and what she thinks voters actually want no. >> nikki has said that she is unapologetically pro-life. again, she is a mom. she had issues having her two children, and she wants to approach this issue from a place of

compassion and standing. and so she is not about demonizing this. she is not about putting certain benchmarks on it. he's. about how do we come together and save as many babies and help as many moms as possible. and i think that if more people approached it from that perspective, we would be in a much better place as the country, while her main competitor, as you know what donald trump and he is speaking and talking about embracing ivf. he has been calling on alabama lawmakers to now protect it. >> looking ahead, the general election, which is where she wants to be, is his support and clarity on this issue outflanking her >> donald trump lost women by 15 points in 2020. he lost independence by 13 points. he has done nothing over the past several years just to change that trajectory. he lost not only in 2020, but in 2022, his losing streak continued. we just republicans just lost a

house seat in new york. we previously held, so no, he is not someone who was able to bring back that coalition of suburban women and independence. it is why nikki haley is defeating joe biden by double digits in most national polls and why trump is within the margin of error. there is one candidate in this race who can win a general election and that is nikki haley. and that's why we're continuing to fight. we know that there are huge stakes and we know that there's a lot of sake in this country and there were a lot of issues that we face and nikki haley is the only one who can ultimately win a general election and get this country back on track. so that's what we're focused on and that's where we're headed. >> betsy egg. that's almost showtime as they say that there's been early voting already happening, but tomorrow really will be the true test. we're all waiting with bated breath. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me take care. >> you too. >> now, i want to bring in cnn senior data and political analysts, the great harry enten on a friday night, no less,

harry, always good to see you. my friends are telling me does nikki haley have a real shot in south carolina tomorrow? >> where else what i rather be than right here right now with you, laura. now, i mean i mean, come on an answer your question. look, here's the choice for gop nominee in south carolina. we have to recent polls, cbs news, yougov, look at this down trump at 65%. nikki haley elliot, 30%. that's a 35 point lead. if cbs news doesn't do it for you, how about winthrop university? look here, donald trump was 65%. nikki haley at just 29%, 36 points back. and i will note, laura, i have gone back through history, looked at every single primary possibly could, and i have not found an instance in which and that it was able to come overcome such a deep deficit that nikki haley had in the final policy and gone on to win that primary. so look, history sometimes can be made, but at this particular point, it doesn't exactly look good for the former governor of south carolina. >> well, look at those numbers. that's pretty unbelievable. how about if is past prologue

here? i mean, has anyone ever lot us their home state and gone on to be the nominee? >> yeah. so this is one of my favorites and we have a do not enter a stop sign right here nominees who lost lost their homes saying the primary zero is zero, it has never happened, it has never happened before. remember marco rubio lost some state back and back in 2016 florida to donald trump and marco rubio left the race. now, nikki haley says that she would in fact continue on, but zero history doesn't look too kind. and if you look at the polling fluoro, look here, choice for gop nominee nationally among the potential gop electorate look at this. this is even worse polling for nikki haley than what she sees in south carolina. donald trump up. now, i'm not exactly a math genius here, but this looks like 63 points to me according to quinnipiac, how about this? i guess a slightly closer margin, 58 points according the market university law school poll. so if nikki haley loses tomorrow, which by all accounts and

purposes the poll suggests she will. that is just the start of a very rough journey, not just historically speaking, where no one's ever come back after losing their home state to be the nominee. but looking at the polling ahead nationally, it just gets even more rough for nikki haley going forward i mean, i i'm an eternal optimist. i'm a glass half full kind of person. would she have to be that for her chances to even continue if they really are so dire. >> yeah. i mean, look, here's the real question. if she loses tomorrow in south carolina, i think the question is, why do you continue on given this and given the history right here? well, it could just be as simple as the fact that maybe she doesn't like donald trump because a lot of her voters don't like donald trump how haley supporters feel about donald trump. just an 18% favorable rating. there we go with the pen right there, 18% favorable 75% unfavorable. so now she could continue on just because she doesn't like the die, even if she doesn't have much of a real shot. the fact is i do a lot of things

continue to do. a lot of things just because i don't like somebody else. so nikki haley, maybe in the same campus i am. >> oh, wait. let's >> not m this segment names some of the things you do because you don't like someone else. please be as specific and detailed as you possibly can. >> you know, let me just tell you this. if i say those things, i can be in real trouble with my mom and i know better than to be in trouble if my mom, especially on a friday night, what a good son, harry enten. thank you so much. wiggle out of that one. >> i try my best. >> he tried as hard as we could, but there's more bad news today for donald trump. you know, he was already on the hook for $355 million in his fraud case in new york. what hold on. >> he's got an additional 99 million in interests that could continue to occur. you know what let me do the math. >> i got a pen >> that's what $355 million. >> okay. add that to what, 99 >> million a west fat hold on. and carry the two that's 454

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wallet, even as he vowed to appeal that decision. and of course denies any wrongdoing. i want to talk about it now with former dekalb county officer general robert james. good to see you. robert tonight. this is heck of a set of a number. first of all, you've got 30 days to pay or post the money. what are >> his options? >> well, he doesn't have many options. he can appeal. but but ultimately, you know, if that judgment stands and he does not pay if i'm the attorney general, i'm going to start seizing assets. and i look for that to happen she has said as much and intends to do so. we'll see i don't pan out. i want to turn now to the georgia case, though. you and i have talked about this in the past. a private investigator working for trump says that he has information that could incriminate the fulton county da fani willis. now, according to the investigator, their cell phone data that somehow shows that the lead prosecutor in the georgia election subversion case, nathan wade, made late night visits to the area where she lived in late 2021. now,

they of course testified that their relationship and start until early 2022. how damaging is this new revelation? if true? >> well, there are two different courts, right? there's a court of public opinion and then there was a court of law and in the court of law, it's a nothing burger. it's not damaging at all that only proves what we already know and what they've already testified to. being. nathan wade and the da is that they had a relationship that predated or pre-existed him coming to work as a special prosecutor with the question is, when did a romantic relationship started? and i don't think him going to her house shows that it was romantic into shows that there was a relationship >> they talk about the volume of a year over according to the attorney, over 2000 voice calls, around 12,000. what they're calling interaction jones, i guess i didn't include text messages before he was appointed to the case. you focus on a very important issue here, and that is what the judge is going to be looking

at. this motion was filed to disqualify fani willis, and of course, ultimately her team, if she is as qualified based on whether there's a conflict of interest based on their relationship yep. that she got a personal benefit from the addition of this information in your mind prove that burden. they have to actually show well, look, it doesn't move the needle at all on whether or not there was financial benefit on the part of the fani willis i mean, ultimately, what you're looking at is a situation where yes, they took trips together and yes, he paid for some of them, but she testified that she paid their money back. and even if she did not pay the money back, ultimately, what you have i have to analyze will approve and i don't think that they can. is that the money that he used to pay for it did not come from his outside business business, outside of work with fulton county versus the money that came from fulton county pay and without a forensic accountant, i don't think that you can show that it came from one side of the ledger versus the other.

>> that's a really important point. and i again, i'm wondering why we want haven't heard from the judge yet, but also whether all of the sort of salacious details of accompany the entire proceeding. if he's focused on the singular that you're talking about, are not always great to have your perspective so well-informed. thank you so much. >> thank you >> yeah. the fulton county da's >> office, they are pushing back by the way, they issued a statement saying at the cell phone data shows nothing up next, he's an oscar nominee and he is here tonight. jeffrey wright from american fiction, very is. he joins me next emma. >> we need a mattress, right >> yeah >> doing a little research little saw soft classic has two layers of springs that contour to your body. >> nice, but it has a three >> inch euro pillow top dan.

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with world. it seems to want nothing but stereotypical stories about black people. and then he decides to do something about it. >> your books have good, but then all popular editors, they want to black they have a black book. >> i'm black and it's my book. >> you know what i mean? look at what they publish >> look at what they expect this to write >> i >> just want to rub their nose, isn't it? >> should i be standing outside in the night? >> deadbeat dads, rappers crack. you said you wanted blackstone >> black, right? >> i see what you're doing we all see what he's doing and what he's doing is being an incredible artists joining me now, tony, me golden globe >> winning actor, and now oscar nominee, the incomparable jeffrey wright. i'm so glad you're here. how are you >> know, i'm i'm doing well, laura, i'm so glad to be with

you. thank you. >> i mean, you know, you're the kind of incredible artists that different walks of life will tell you that they're the ones that have discovered. you might say, oh, i know him from boardwalk and but i know him from west. well, i know him from this movie. i know for matt and you go this is the man's career. just how many people know him? no, your work and appreciate your artistry. and here you are an oscar nominee. after all this time, has a feel oh, it's wonderful. these nominations are made by our peers, our colleagues, and it's, it's been really gratifying that they have looked at our work in this film, not just mine, but everyone involved because the film is nominated for best picture as well. but they've looked at our work and they said, yeah, yeah, we like it and as well. to your point, i've had people who've seen the film from the academy and they've said, i've liked your work for awhile and yeah, that's really touching. it's

really a times surprising. i don't know who sees what. i don't know who see you hey films, but i'm really appreciative of it, and i can tell you this. it's better than the alternative when you do work and nobody has interests. so yeah, this has been really cool, particularly for our small film that is american fiction well, for an artists like yourself, i can't imagine anyone not liking your work, but you know, it was so fascinating. i was losing a little research and all of my fandom for you and had no idea that one of your first scenes, first single scenes was across from sidney poitier. is that right? >> yes >> in a mini-series called separate but equal, that was about the brown versus board of education case. sidney played thurgood marshall. i was about 24 years old and it only recently started acting in college. i had no idea what i was doing. it shows if you watch the movie but i think i got the role because i had a

political science degree, so they were like, yeah, throw him in there. he might be reasonably smart. there wasn't a close-up because they're like don't get too close i single for a single shot was opposite mr. poitier, who was just the most gracious generous patient, and supportive man, and he was just so naturally elegant. and of course, he was the captain of the ship for an actor like me, he gave you a word of advice. the word he used was irony. >> here you are nominated for a film that's poking fun quite ironically at the cliches of what it is to be black, black life, black >> culture, poking fun at what is expected of mainstream america and what would be enticing. and it's earned you an oscar nomination imagine that, yes yes. i think i may have listened to him. he was at the end of the experience with

him at the end of the production of course, i want it over to him and i said, mr. poitier, you know, do you have any advice for young knucklehead that i was and he said he looked at me. look data because he was so tall, he looked down, he said irony, and i understood what he meant. certainly this film, american fiction is laced with irony, not only in the way we tell the story, but in the, in the character of the story itself and it's it's been really it's been really you know, we've all been really pleased with the way audiences have received it, and it's because of those ironic tones, because these are complex issues that we deal with in the film but they're also incredibly relevant right now. we're having conversations about race and representation and inclusion, conversations that are at the very forefront of the national dialogue right now. but conversations that we don't necessarily have well, what we're able to do in this

film is have these conversations at the same time, have a laugh while doing it. and i think that provides kind of an open window for people across backgrounds who want to engage. but are fearful at times, are traumatized at times. but we allow at least for two hours that this film is running for people to come in and wrestle with these difficult things, and have a good time while doing it. so it's a nice recipe >> jeffrey, don't go anywhere. we've got so much more to talk about. >> we'll be right back to be a headline, wars vegas. >> that's what i'm we wanna do >> they had the biggest entertainers in america >> vegas >> is always marketed itself on its naughtiness and the only way you find out what you can do is if you do it it's unlike

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>> back now with oscar nominee jeffrey wright talk about the way i this film. i mean, you've got erica alexander, who have got isa re you asked her link k. brown mean you have got tracee ellis ross. i could go on. you have got quite a community in this movie well, i'll go on one further and lesly adams, well, let me give her her flowers. we've got a clip from one of your scene. let's play it. >> awesome >> coraline, why don't you sit across from >> i'm happy you're not white me too >> all this movie makes you laugh, but that, that line those scenes. every part of this film made me lean in and it seems it's gotta be very important to you, just knowing the cast of characters you have

embodied, building lease comes to mind from angels in america to this. it strikes me, must be very important to you to have the characters you embody and portray really hone in on what is relevant and what is timely and what is deep well, i want to tell stories that have some type of meaning outside of the theater. i that's just the way i like to work. i like to tell stories that have relevance to the days, issues and i like to work with writers who were very smart, who can help us shine light in some of the dark corners of these issues. writer like tony kushner, who wrote angels in america and chord jefferson, or writer director on american fiction. he adapted this from personal efforts, novel eraser, super fluent guys on these issues, super smart. and at the same time they're able to do it in a way that buoyant and that again, makes

it digestible. i want to tell stories that are interesting to me. and i hope interesting to someone else and important to someone else, moving to someone else. and entertaining i'm pretty simple. >> i knew were going to happen. now i like you even more >> oh, well, it's mutual. is mutual or yeah. >> but i you know, i i'm glad you say that because while our film focuses focuses on the publishing world and the film world to some extent, it really is a story about representation across the board. maybe a personal inroad for me into this story in terms of the importance of representation importance of the humanizing of our stories is i have kids and i want my son to be seen for who he is. i want him to walk down the street and not be seen relative and my daughter as

well relative to some caricature are some limiting portrait of who he or she might be in the media i want them to be perceived as who they are. and so i think that the ways in which representation in the media effects that is deeply, deeply important. and it has been from the beginning of storytelling on film. and in the theater in this country our film touches on a bit of that. and i hope again within the two hours at the film runs, that we elevate the conversation a little bit, that we shine some light that that broadens the understanding of the humanity of who we are as black folks, as who we are as americans ultimately so i'm really again, i'm pleased that the film is being received again, we're small film. we the budget for our film was probably the catering budget for the last batman movie that

i did. we shut in 26 days. but we think it's a small film with big ideas and it's really gratifying that audiences are responding to it in the way that they have. it's wonderful that is wonderful. 26 days, that is unbelievable to think about. and i'm so glad that you are thinking about and using art as that safe vicarious experience, where we can better understand each other in this world. and i hope that's one of the ways that we get to wherever the there is. i know that's very important. do you even outside of the art space that as americans, that perhaps things like equality things like justice are not american fictions that's exactly right. i mean, i think we're all i know you're concerned about that and if we again, if we look back to our history, if we look back who though those who came before us, they pushed ward they won victory is for us that sometimes we take for granted

and that's the idea at the founding of this country that we push toward a more perfect union. and i think very much that media plays, plays a huge role in our ability to do that. i think sometimes we're stunted by it. by the media but it doesn't have to be that way. and so yes, if we can use these tools, particularly now at this incredibly divisive time divided time, if we can use these tools to bring us together and to push us toward, toward a better, better things on the horizon. yeah >> why not? >> why not? well, listen, i'm a leader with this because i never had a chance to meet sidney poitier, even though my daughter's name is sydney, it's not a coincidence. so you're gonna be my sidney poitier for a second. i'm going to ask you as this young person and i am young. do you have any advice for how we get this done, mr.. >> well, you know that's a tall order for me to play sydney, but i would say just

keep doing what you're doing, laura. i mean, you you know, i'll do my part. you do your part. and if we all recognize that we have, we still have the agency that this country is ours and our responsibility as is our democracy then we will win well i hope you win and your name is engraved on the bottom of that oscar. what a pleasure to speak to you. i've been such a fan for so long. now. it is elevated. good luck to you, everyone in the room with you will be pleased to see you as i will be to watch. thank you so much for joining us tonight. jeffrey wright thank you so much for having me, laura >> well, she was a daytime star and now she's back on tv in a controversial new documentary. why her legal guardian tried to stop the wendy williams ems documentary. >> next united states of

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>> it's giving a little desperate energy you are an ala celebrity. you are bigger than this. you are better than this. you are smarter than this. you are stronger than this. >> the wendi i know that has instilled in me how to navigate this crazy business that we're in this isn't it >> this come just a day after the world's found out, wendy williams has been diagnosed with aphasia and dementia the four part docu-series provides a painful, really candid depiction. it seems of william's life today as she is struggling with health issues and perhaps else hochul hall abuse is executive produced by williams for self and includes on-camera participation from her own family lifetime did declined to comment on the contents of the lawsuit. now, for some perspective, let's bring in attorney tamar monarch, who who excuse me, armagnac who represented amanda binds and her parents in her

conservator ship. >> tamara. thank you so much for being here. break down for us. what sort of position wendy williams is guardian is in in terms of the control? >> well, when you're under a guardian ship, like windy is laura, you're essentially a minor under the law. so her guardian is essentially in the role of a parent. a parent for even a ten-year-old child, controlling almost the most minute details of a person's life financially speaking, i ever in 2022, i remember seeing this reporting that wells fargo successfully petitioned to have wendy placed under a temporary >> financial guardian of an after they froze her accounts, by the way, how rare is it that this request would come from a bank instead of say a family member? >> extremely rare, extremely rare. i have never seen it in my years of practicing conservatorship and guardianship law something important, something severe and urgent was going on with her

accounts to have the bank of all of all people will entity step in and ask the court to have someone take over her life, essentially. >> imagine what that must have been for the bank to be so alarmed. and wendy's nice, told cnn's elizabeth wagmeister that the family has been shut out, that wendy is healing and a facility it's an undisclosed location but they have no idea where she is and have no way to reach her how outcome is that type of guardianship? >> it's extremely rare, extremely rare it's the immediate family that goes to the courts and ask for a guardian ship and takes control and cares for their loved one. in this situation. and from what we've seen from the documentary bits and pieces, it seems like the guardian ship is there almost to separate wendy from her loved ones? >> variances, various selling to think about, i mean, just

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