>> how much about kind of getting a lot of the time. >> i actually i wrote my college thesis of all things about these get out the vote efforts that we're trying to make voting seem sexy. and they are >> generally useless they're there glamorous and sometimes self-aggrandizing. and again, she looks great. the close look great. it's not going to make a width of it is because people just don't care about celebrities asking them to vote >> i said that's not a compelling reason to vote. a compelling reason to vote is to feel like you have a stake in the outcome that you understand what the stakes are, what the consequences are if one candidate wins versus another, and that your vote really matters. is this. >> there's also a generational thing about this real quick. i mean, this general gen z or whatever. i mean, they are probably much more amenable to turning this around for monica lewinsky, than older people were. >> well, they didn't live through the era, obviously, when she was the bud of these

horrible jokes, when she was sort of a national laughing stock and went through this horrible, horrible experience. through kids, young, young, young adults living through an era where there is more, there are more opportunities to be sort of publicly shamed for social media. >> yeah, catherine and paul. thank you so much. and thank you so much for watching news, right. laura codes lives starts right now. >> so i've heard of undecided, but michigan's bringing in a new word, uncommitted. >> what's it >> gonna mean for november tonight on lara codes live? have you ever met someone from michigan? >> they all do this thing. you know, what impact will they hold up their hand and they point to where they're from because of the shape of michigan maybe it's a midwest thing. we're all really visual people >> but when it comes >> to some voters, they're refusing to show their hands at

least two biden at the same state who in 2016 broke for trump defeating hillary clinton by less than what, 11,000 votes in 2020 broke for joe biden over donald trump by about 154,000 votes. well now some democrats are using tomorrow's primary to protest the president's handling of the war in gaza by not voting for biden, not for trump but for uncommitted >> now warning to biden and his administration that they need to hear our calls and heat our demands and respond to what it is that we're asking for, which is an immediate and permanent ceasefire now if thousands of michigan democrats actually do vote uncommitted tomorrow, that could be one heck of a sign that >> his handling of gaza may actually cost biden's some crucial votes. >> in november it's not because people want trump. none of no one who he's voting. i'm committed. once trump they want with happening in gaza to stop

well, biden. listen, oral michigan voters now cover >> their own years to him, and it's not just democrats by the way, that have to worry you heard him mention both trump and biden will donald trump might look to be on an unstoppable march. the nomination, but there are actually sign that he has got some vulnerabilities here. the latest clue while an exit polling is after a lyna, a stunning 96% of nikki haley's voters said that they would be dissatisfied if trump wins the nomination and trump is going to meet to make inroads with haley's voters in november now i want to bring in democratic us senate candidate hill harper. you may know him as dr. marcus andrews and abc's hit drama, the good dr. or any of his number one acting roles. but he hung up his scrubs last year to focus on a run for public office where in the key swing state of michigan hill harper joins me now, hill, good

to see you. welcome back. how well they just past few days running all over the state has been pretty incredible topic to a lot of voters and tomorrow is a huge de here. so it's pretty exciting. >> it is a huge day. we've all been watching and waiting to see what will happen then in michigan tomorrow. president biden typically is set to face his most significant primary challenge to date. michigan's quote, unquote, uncommitted voter. we'd be voting for president biden tomorrow i mean, here's the deal. the beautiful thing about the sanctity of one's boat. it's a very private votes. i'm not going to say what i'm what i'm going to vote for, but i will say this is that we need to make sure we get president biden back into the white house. but i do believe that the listen to michigan movement and the uncommitted vote will be relatively significant from the standpoint of the folks i've talked to all over the state and i think it's very important. i think it's very

important because it sends a message that i believe gives president biden the best chance to win in november, the fact that folks need to be heard and folks are suffering, folks are angry. i'm hearing it all over the state. 71% of michigan democrats support ceasefire. i came out for ceasefire about a month, a little over a month after the conflict. now we're five months in. there was a voter laura yesterday, who said to me, hill, i think people have to right-size in their mind what's going on. number one, on gaza is the same. square footage is detroit, basically 2.2 million people were 30,000 have already died to put that in a context of the us, that would be four points 7 million us citizens dead. and the cdc says, this. he said to make, cdc said, we've had 1.18 million deaths from covid with the same death toll. here would've been 4.7 million

deaths. and so folks are hurting and they want their voice be heard and they're going to be heard through that, have committed. >> that's important to think about, but secularly, when i hear the phrase, i'm committed, i think to myself that it should entice a candidate to be all the more responsive, but they don't take for granted. i believe that i need not campaign in or maybe more specifically, that i need not actually they engage in the active listening sessions and present policy as a result, i mean, you have been pushing for a ceasefire since at least november. governor gretchen whitmer says that not voting for biden over the israel-hamas war will lead to a second trump presidency. you've been talking to michigan voters is that how you see it? >> no. no, no. >> this this gives since president biden and the democratic establishment a message in michigan, there are key voting blocs right here in

detroit where i'm sitting right now, a, for instance, you know, folks always say michigan is a red state until black false well, it's true we're if we're talking about democrats, right? >> the way we win is to get constituency groups like african americans involved and engaged in voting. getting the arab and muslim population engaged in in voting, and how you do that is actually listening, not taking their votes for granted. so this gives them it'll be eight months from tomorrow for the dc democratic establishment to really get their stuff together. and listen to because there's a lot of black folks i'm telling you tomorrow, black turnout is going to be quite low advisement. >> think that why do you think it's going to be so low? >> okay. so first of all, for the first time in 57 years michigan does not have a black democratic representative in the federal delegation. that's out of 13 congressional seats in two sentences, 15 seats. so folks feel completely unrepresented and then when

this open us senate, he came came up that obviously running for the democratic leadership did not come to the black community and say, you know what, your unrepresented, let's have a conversation. who would you like to see that? instead? >> they >> hand pick the candidate that they said this is who the establishment is chosen. and that candidate does not necessarily have a relationship with the black community and feldscher like what's going on every year in october, every election cycle on october, the black community said, hey, save us, save us we need black votes, democrats, any black votes to win statewide in michigan. but if they don't feel that they're getting any return for the investment of their vote what they're checking out. so part of my challenge in this campaign has been reengaging them to say, hey voting for me is an investment because you're gonna get paid back because you'll have real representation. >> hill harper. thank you so much for joining us. you got a long way to go to august, then again, it's going to go just like that at the time seems to drive any election year. good luck to you. thank you so much

>> thank you >> i want to bring in former republican congressman joe walsh and cnn political commentator, ashley allison. do you notice national coalitions director for the biden harris 2020 presidential campaign. glad to have you both here. first of all, i've heard him on sided. now there's uncommitted we heard in nevada recently when it came to nikki haley, it was what none of the above candidates, this idea of uncommitted really isn't reaction. we're hearing about what's going on in terms of gaza. i want to play for you a list would happen here when this idea of a warning for biden ahead of november listen to this >> you need to call for a ceasefire because it will save lives and because it's the necessary thing to do politically otherwise, you, president biden will be hunting the white house to donald trump so he has been moving towards this very notion of calling for that. when you look at this, isn't enough at this point, ashley >> well, i think they want to

hear the president say, i want to a permanent ceasefire, and that's not right now where the biden administration is he did say today than they are close to a temporary ceasefire that would also provide for some hostages to come back. but what i ultimately think the voters in michigan are doing is they're engaging in democracy. they're having a discourse about using their vote, about where they think foreign policy should be. and i think now if you're on a campaign, this is not music to your ears, but if you are a believer in democracy, you have to allow people to show up and vote for the issues and the things that they believe in >> now that all being said donald trump cannot be president in the united states. >> so these >> voters, if they do not get to a place where joe biden is someone they can vote for in november. that is going to be a very interesting story for the biden campaign to figure out from the beginning, laura, this is a tough issue for biden

because it divides the democratic coalition he stood pretty firmly with israel from the beginning. if he abandoned that, as far as a general election position, this country is still mostly pro israel, and that's a good thing. so he can't be seen that he's just going to appease one population in one state he's got, he's going to be the democratic nominee generally, he's got to stand with israel. >> i think that there is a way to do both. i think there is a way to say israel has a right to exist that hostages deserved to come home, but innocent palestinians also deserve to live. and i think that the voters who are saying, i don't want to speak for them but i will say as someone who wants this war to come to win in immediately and for good >> i don't, i don't like the >> direction this is going. it is too far and it's not i think that sometimes we're talking about this because it is an election year about just the tactics of polish

politicking and what to say. >> we're talking about people's lives in israel and in gaza. and this is an people's families and so it's easy in washington dc and i don't think you're doing this job, but it's easy in washington, dc to get lost in the tactics of political, political, political politics, and politicking or whatever politicking, politic in. but these are people yes. you're absolutely right. and when you look at that mean, obviously we talk about the polls, talk about the ballot stuck about the outcomes of things, but the issues to people are very intimate and personal and it's not just about sort of a ten foot pole accented and says, yeah, i guess i'll vote for this. it's deeply personal, particularly in a year like this, but it's not just biden usaa with the personal trump also has some vulnerabilities. yes, he went what, 60, 42. nikki haley in south carolina but there was an exit poll that found that 96% of her voters would be dissatisfied if trump wins a nomination. i wanted that to red flag in michigan and also beyond for trump, what do you think in every state? in every state? now, many of those

people will, those republicans, haley voters who will come back home. i think most will they, meaning to the republican party candidate, meaning to trump >> they had a choice. this is a primary, they wanted haley, she's not going to win the realization that he's going to be there nominee is going to set in with most republican voters. he'll get most of them, but he is vulnerable because look, i may former republican who is a never trumper that was four years ago. there are a lot more like me now, this is a problem for trump but you look, i mean, both of you alluded to the idea of the symbolism of making one stan felt right now, whether it's the protests, i'm committed or it's a i'm just satisfied with what you're doing right now. i don't want you to be the nominee. >> wasn't like >> both you believe that no matter why they end the day democrats about democrats and republicans, the same is that it taking it for granted though you may disagree with me. i think >> primaries are like family fight and you fight it out and somebody then represents i'm

getting the look somebody represents the family >> my face best in >> humor. i love sarcasm. no, no. >> i think you're right. like you have the opportunity to have the marketplace of ideas within your party and then identify who you want. and not just maybe who you want, who you think has the best chance of winning a lot of times and this instance, i just think there are a lot of different components at play. and but at the end of day, it's probably gonna be donald trump and joe biden. >> well, we shall see what happens and maybe nikki haley, if she continues beyond to produce it, we had to wait you can see on that as well, joe ashley, please stick around. we've got five days to go until a partial government shutdown in its fourth time before diving for months. i'll ask tank's kevin o'leary, is this any way to run a government? >> laura coates law brought to

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cash and liquid assets, nothing to sneeze at part of roughly $640 million. he holds in personal assets while sort of the money man himself diving in which arc tanks, judge >> kevin >> o'leary, otherwise known as mr. wonderful, and chairman of o'leary ventures. kevin good to see you back. here every time i think about this number, it's beams astronomical to the average person frankly, it is an astronomical figure and between the penalty, in this case, the 83 million to e jean carroll. that's more than half 1 billion. and you got this recent forbes estimates saying that he hadn't had the cash. so how is he going to come up with that money? >> well, even if you're a billionaire having half 1 billion liquid is kind of unusual, but by the way, laura, this bond, like everything else in this case, is unprecedented. i don't recall a bond issuance anywhere near this ever for a personal situation ever. i mean, usually each thing things in real estate and of 2030, $40

and you basically get an aggregate of your portfolio and you stake it. the bond phi itself to put the agreement of places anywhere from one to two-and-a-half percent. so you're gonna lose that right out of the gate so there's our cost to all of this that you never get recouped but i think the narrative on this case has not even politics anymore. it's more about what, what is the risk profile of new york state, given all these unprecedented situations around development because it, new york is one of the primary markets on earth. real estate development. it's, you think about new york city and particularly in commercial real estate or retail or, you know, obviously condos and everything else. it's one of the number one markets, maybe london, maybe abu dhabi, maybe new york. but it's taking on a new risk profile because all of this stuff stuff is unprecedented. the size of the penalties, unprecedented. the

law that was used to garner it. >> before you go on why are you focusing on the risk profile of a state like new york? if the risk profile really is about if somebody has committed this activity or criminal behavior or in this case is a civil matter if the attorney general's office isn't the risk profile for the lens of not making those steps to get yourself exposed this liability. why is the focus on new york itself? >> well, new york's the only state that's ever used this law in this way in 75 years to get this outcome. and we know the outcome of the case and then new york's the only state ever to award this unprecedented amount against a crime that had no victims in the sense that no monies were lost. that's also new and never been done before so at the trial, >> gentlemen, that point though, kevin attorney general does say that there are victims and uthai, we have had

conversations about this in the past. she is saying and i know you take issue with this, but she is saying that even though the lenders did make some money from mr. trump they were the purported victims in this case because they could have gotten more money in this financial penalty reflects those lost profits and you think that that is now only on precedent, which it frankly, in many respects could be, but that that is the real problem in terms of the future of development. and for those thinking about new york, well, that's a valid claim you're making, but maybe they would have made 2030, 4,050 million more is the penalty >> commensurate with that loss? attend x seems a little excessive and undoubtedly will be challenged in the appellate court. but this is not about donald trump anymore. or it's about new york and risk that's the way developers like i'm looking at it. i love new york. my kids have in new york, it's the number one market on earth. but the question is, can i risk

it? can i risk putting 3.6 billion in the ground in new york right now, while things are so oh what i know, i don't want to call this. i mean, it's so toxic, so volatile, so unknown. all of this stuff is just waking everybody up around the world saying, what's going on in new york. and i'd argue that people in new york, and i've said this many times maybe you should think about the management you have that's doing this to you because it's not making you the best place to take risks. that's all i'm saying. it's not all politics, not about trump. it's about risk. >> i hear you, but you know what some people are waking up this realization when you're talking about pudding three or 4 billion the ground in new york, the average person doing business are trying to get alone in manhattan or in new york state more broadly, they're trying to get an interest rates. they can get a 30 year on something and even then they're pulling together resources. it sounds again, to go back to my original point for the average person they're

looking at these laws that are on the books through the lens of what the average person would be held to account for. but let me just go, you struck a chord with me. you talk about the management of things because i can't help. i'm in washington, dc and what i think about the management of things, kevin, i'm thinking a lot about what's happened over on capitol hill and this deadline coming hang up on friday. i watch you all the time on shark tank. we all do and i cannot imagine that you as a businessman would look at something like congress for example, what's going on there and say a lot of debt vulnerable to shutdowns all the time happening multiple times with a span of a year how do you from the business perspective? evaluate a company like congress for example. i mean, you're worried about the risk and investment in new york. what do you make of congress >> well, laura, we've all seen

this movie before dozens of times. the drama that deadline that they're going to shut the government, you know, there not that never happens and that's why the market doesn't care. in the last minute, there's going to be some bipartisan agreement that kicks the can down the road 90 days and we deal with this again in three months what would be a good ending to the stores shut the government down for once, let's get some real drama, but we know you're not going to to do that. congress is so divided. it's so partisan. these are very, very difficult times for anybody that's a lawmaker in washington. and so this they're not they're not going to go home. it's going to be the 48 hours everybody's going to be a way can lab, lab willful for everybody seemed movie before? it's almost getting boring. >> well, i've seen the way before and thank you. do not tell my boss is to keep me up for 48 hours before this all happens, but let me ask you, do you really think kevin, that

the government ought to shut down just for the drama, say, you obviously think that you mean it would mean that if a bluff was called, maybe people would be incentivized i asked to do more to prevent it. >> well but the problem is no, i don't want to see the government shutdown. that's very bad for the american brand. it is. and i've worked in this economy. no, i don't want to do that, but i really like to stop doing this over and over again. we're all tiring of it. we know the outcome, the left asked minute agreement, but it's not a fixed agreement in the sense that has longevity. it's a short agreement kicking the can down the road. that's not the way to run the government. and i think most people would agree with that on a bipartisan basis. >> i >> mean, it really, really consumes a lot of time every 90 days whenever it is. and it's not unhealthy. but the world knows the whole world seen the movie, everybody on earth knows this movie and so that's why they'll sell a lot of tickets to it anymore. it's not going

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come down to, maybe i'm sorry, there's no all of the above option for all of you. remember and bring your entire high school career. but the supreme court is trying to figure this one out. first of all, know, social media companies are not the government. if they were the government, it'd be a different ball game. generally speaking, in the government has to be what they call content neutral, meaning you cannot censor or punish people based on what they're going to say. but there are those who claim that these companies might as well be considered the government. and texas and florida laws say that these companies are censoring conservative voices when deciding what content they can remove from their platforms. but those laws are now before the supreme court and the social media companies argued they in fact violated their own speech rights. now, some justices today appears in pathetic to their argument >> and i wonder since we're talking about the first amendment, whether our first concern should be with the state regulating what we have

called the modern public square. >> and it seems like in barkley in 1976, in a really important sentence in our first amendment jurisprudence, we said that the concept that the government may restrict the speech of some elements of our society in order to enhance the relative voice of others is wholly foreign to the first amendment. >> so who is right? joining me now, carlos able, vp general counsel of netchoice. that is the company acting as the lead plaintiff and challenging both those laws before the supreme court call. so glad you're here are the he didn't reaction people is hold on. how the social media company, the government, that the first amendment would actually apply. your argument is that they're not, and this is out of bounds. >> you're absolutely right. i mean, if the states florida and texas were to take your multiple choice test, i'd say send them back too bad because they clearly do not understand what they're doing the first amendment is pretty clear. it says the government may not force any of us you, me, cnn,

any of us to say something we do not want to say. there are plenty of times that people come up and say, i want to be on your show and you say no, i don't want to have you on my show or you should do the news this way. well, i don't want to do the news that way. >> but the state of florida and texas are saying the exact same thing to websites and no, they can't because that's their first amendment protected speech. and here you have two states, florida and texas that are actually trying to force websites like facebook and youtube. but even sites like etsy to host content that but they don't want to host it is so crazy that even these laws would require etc, to be forced to sell sweaters with swastikas on it. they don't want to sell that why should they be forced to sell that? that's not in their interest. that's a violation of their first amendment. >> this comes down in many respects to the idea of censorship and obviously it's the government who cannot do that as opposed to private individual their arguments we made that and making them now

they should be state actors. trump famously made this argument several years ago. thing that he had been censored when you look at this argument about them being a state actor, isn't really coming down to that. they are our omnipotent omnipresent in places that's not enough to be the government. >> yeah, it doesn't work for a number of reasons. one, it doesn't match reality. so if you don't like what's going on in facebook, you can go to youtube. you don't like youtube. you go to x, you don't like x. you can go to truth social, or rumble conservative platforms so it doesn't match the facts, but it doesn't match the law either because there have been case after case where the famous case miami herald, vittorio, us supreme court said, you know what, even if you are a monopoly you're still entitled to first amendment protection. or you look at a case out of california, pg&e california pg&e, a public utility still entitled to first amendment protections. so there's no way to do an end run around the first amendment. and that's by design. >> let me ask you though, coming out of the oral

arguments, do you feel confident the supreme court will see things your way? it's hard to read the tea leaves sometimes. yeah. i mean, sometimes reading tea leaves is way more clear than trying to read nine justices. but at the under the day, we have 200 years of first amendment law saying it is the right of individuals, the right of businesses to decide what content is appropriate for them and not the government at the end of the day. that's what they'll find that that's what they'll decide, and that protects all of us. >> well, i'm added tea leaves curl, but i'm glad you stopped by. we'll see what they actually end up saying. we know might just take till june. so glad to have you here. thank you so much. while there have been several fertility clinics in alabama. now, pausing ivf treatments. this after just last week's ruling. and now there's new scrutiny on that chief justice of the state supreme of who cited the bible in his opinion, will dig into it >> king charles wednesday at ten on cnn i loved that my daughter is still needs me.

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presenting himself as a religious zealot, which he still does listen we need to find what god's call is on our life and pursue it. so that we can be used of him in his kingdom for his purposes. >> and tom that way of thinking is really clear frankly in his concurrence with the recent ruling on embryos, right? >> yeah. absolutely. time and again, he cited the bible as you noted, christian values and he said that's what alabamians want we believe that each human being from the moment of conception is made in the image of god created by him to reflect his likeness. it is as if the people of alabama took what was spoken of the prophet jeremiah and applied it to every unborn person in this state before i formed you in the womb, i knew you. >> he also said in an all of this the doctrine of the sanctity of life is rooted in the sixth commandment. you shall not murder. and furthermore, he said life

cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy god, who views the destruction of his images as an affront to himself. laura, all of this sounds like a sermon, but this is in an official state supreme court ruling. >> i mean, many people will look at this and say what happened to church and state being separate. and he seems completely comfortable with mixing public duty, his private beliefs, even though he has been elected. >> and then it goes even more than that. he favors what is called the so-called seven mountains mandate. this is an idea that's very strong among evangelicals and pentecostals started the 1970s really took off about ten years ago. what it says is that christians are supposed to dominate families, education, religion entertainment, media, business an importantly government listened to his take >> we have abandoned those seven mountains and they've

been occupied by the opposite side. god created government and the fact that we have, let it go into the possession of others is heartbreaking for those of us who understand. and we know it is for him >> all of this is why some critic say parker is actually arguing, not for a democracy, but for a theocracy in which christians are not merely the majority in the country, which they still are, but that they rule absolutely legally. laura >> it's pretty stunning the way you've broken it down and just seeing it really in an official document, one that has the entire nation wondering what will come next tom foreman. thank you so much. well, there's been a lot of hand-wringing in the republican party in the wake of overturning roe v. wade with that dobbs decision is the

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republican party? well, the gop is top brass are now trying to scramble to get on the side of supporting ivf. >> listen are you comfortable with ivf is a procedure? >> diam you have a lot of people out there in a country that they wouldn't have children if it weren't for that. >> i think it was a terrible ruling. >> i can't speak to that particular case, but surely in favor of that. >> well, i think the court correctly assessed the law, but i believe the alabama law needs to change people well, i want to have a family should have the government and the law on their side. we want to make it easier for people to be able to have babies, not make it harder and the ivf process is a way of giving life to even more babies do i support the ivf procedure? 100%. i do. it should be made available >> a lot of this that off by a letter was sent a republican's campaign arm, urging candidates to support the fertility treatment. i want to bring back former republican congressman joe walsh and cnn football

commentator ashley allison. okay. i've often heard this phrase of republicans what kinds of caught the car. i want to unpack it further though and wonder, do you think that the advocacy in favor of overturning roe v. wade was short-sighted and not contemplating all the different iterations of what it could really mean. >> laura, i see this as a pro-life former elected official. most republicans never thought roe would really be overturned. you and i were talking, did they anticipate what might happen if it was overturned? they never thought it would. it was the way we raised money. it was the way we riled up the base. the base wanted it overturned, but most republican elected officials never expected it to be. so they weren't ready for any of this. >> so mifepristone, the ivf, all considerations. that's interesting because it sounds like to your point, it's easier to campaign than legislate on the issue well, you would know what your party was thinking better than i would, but i don't necessarily a group believe it. i think that when

you make up 30 year plan and you work decade after decade, you might thought was going to take 50 years, not 30, but it took 30 and then you overturned it. it's no surprise prize that right after that, we started to see bans on six weeks. criminalization of doctors, criminalization of women, prevention to travel to different states. and now with ivf, many abortion rights advocates, many reproductive rights advocates have said long the fall of ro, means the fall of reproductive freedom and all that, that is encompassing of now, whether or not you knew how it was going to happen, whether you thought it was gonna be through this court case or this governor or this state legislator is a different way. but there was a theory to take away the woman's bodily autonomy in every form. and what the fall of roe, and now we're just seeing it play out. >> let me ask you, joe on that and you are right to identify the two different terms. there's the idea of abortion

and reproductive rights in terms of how it's being discussed republicans seem to be quite fearful that they are being associated with anti reproductive my gosh listen to them, run front this ivf thing because this is antilife, this is anti allowing, >> letting men and women, women have babies literally have families. they're scared to death in this so should be how do they course correct. >> stay out of our doctor's office. >> that's how that's how you course-correct that you actually like. stay out of women's doctor's office, let them make choices for their body and we would all be good, but they don't want to do that. i'm >> going to embrace ivf as much because they can't, but i think it's too late. >> it's too late because they have shown their cars, they have shown themselves for who they are. i said to a friend this weekend, i say, i think that the republican party probably put a memo out on the plan to do after roe and somebody forgot to tell the supreme court justices, don't make this ruling unless donald trump wins in november, it's a

little conspiracy theory, but in but like they pulled the trigger a little too fast. but this was always going to be the plan. they just did it nine months earlier. if donald trump ends up being president, i mean, abortion remains on the ballot even if in some places in invisible ink. but this issue very important now reproductive rights, we'll see how it all affairs. jill, ashley, thank you both so much and thank you all for watching our coverage. which continues >> do you know why i selected you to crush what makes you weak? >> anyone who dares insult me or my country shall feel my good >> streaming exclusively on max do you have missing teeth reset smile is a life-changer, a semi afraid to smile. >> and now i can't stop smiling >> reset smile isn't affordable way to replace your missing teeth from hamas at a fraction of the cost of dental implants you get an impression kits sent to your home and you mail it back. no trip to the dentist whatsoever. they

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