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2024, bradley provides merchant with names of several people who he believed had firsthand knowledge of when willis and wade's romance began subpoena them all. bradley says in the text referring to a list of names that included other prosecutors in the da's office, members of willis's security detail and others close to her speculated on some things. >> in contrast, on the stand tuesday, he seemed uncomfortable with a line of questioning for merchant. >> i do not recall any dates of when the of when the relationship started. i'm telling you i did not recall any specific date at this time. i don't recall at this time. i am telling you you that i do not have the date in the tax which spanned months bradley assist merchant from behind the scenes while pushing to remain anonymous. i really appreciate you keeping me out. he says in a text after reviewing a draft of merchants original motion to disqualify willis but i think you need to add me in the footnote 15 because i had a
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contract as well. that way it doesn't seem like i was involved at one point in the text. bradley calls merchant a friend, something that failed to come across during his testimony >> did you have i don't know if >> speculation is lying, but these texts are now being considered as part of the evidence by the judge on whether willis should be disqualified and anderson reading through these text messages, it's pretty clear that bradley intended to remain anonymous, but as the leads, he gave merchant didn't pan out. she pivots headed back to him as her best source of information. but as you read there and saw what he said on the stand and what he read or what he texted in stark contrast from each other. >> anderson, nick valencia, thanks. the news continues right here on cnn outfront. >> next we are following several breaking stories this hour, the supreme court agrees to weigh in on whether trump is immune from criminal charges
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related to january 6, it's the heart of trump's defense. is the doj's case. now, in trouble. also breaking right now, trump on the hook for $454 million. the clock is ticking because a new york it's just ruled that he cannot get out of putting up the full amount and trump is saying he does not have the money will give all you the details and inside putin's decision to use nuclear weapons, the financial times tonight, obtaining secret russian intelligence documents showing putin could resort to using nukes just to stop aggression. it is just stunning think report reporter who broke it will be outfront so let's go >> good evening. i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, the supreme court takes up trump's case. the nation's highest court tonight saying, justices will hear trump's argument that he has absolute immunity for crimes he allegedly committed did an office in the one-page order, just one page. very clear to the point, the court writes that this is the key question that they'll answer, quote, weather and if, so, to
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what extent does a former president enjoy presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office look, nothing matters more than this case before the supreme court. now, this is a major decision, is one-page is a major decision because the court could have simply said that it would not take up the case and simply let the lower court decision stand. something that would have been totally standard in a case where three judges had ruled unanimously and very narrowly that trump was not immune. but that is not what the supreme court has done tonight. and the bottom line of this ruling that they're going to hear the case means delay. >> the >> supreme court will not even hear the case until the end of april that means that the court rules against trump and the justice department's january 6 case against trump goes ahead. it will begin later. it will begin later in everyday matters in the countdown to election day, whether they're even as a full trial and verdict by election day. the immunity claim. now before the supreme
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court is at the core and heart of the justice department's case against trump because if trump is immune from prosecution for acts committed while he was president, then jack smith's case is over done. and trump's lawyers have argued that he is immune from smith's criminal charges because even if trump had ordered the military to assassinate a political rival, they say, if he did it while he was president, he couldn't be prosecuted of course, the three judges in the scathing rebuke from the lower court rejected trump's argument. but now the supreme court's nine justices will have the final say and how the justices decide could have a profound impact on this election. former trump white house attorney ty cobb is standing by first though i want to go to evan perez because he's outfront live in washington. evan, we just get this one page. many had expected that the court would just not take this up. right. and just let that lower court decision stand. that's not what they've done what do you know about why? what do you know about how obviously they took their time to make this decision? >> what do you know?
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>> right in this order, erin, they make clear that they're not making any judgments on the merits of the case. but what we know from this is the fact that it takes five justices to grant this stay, which is something that they did. and that means that there's five justices who at least are trying to help donald trump or at least agreeing to help by donald trump more time, which is after all, the entire strategy by the trials till after the november election. and so with the fact that the justices took at least three weeks to make this decision, they could have made this decision and issued this public of the nation for this, order anytime in the last three for this case to go to trial weeks, they waited this three weeks and they've decided that and for a decision to be they're not going to here oral rendered, it it means that that will not happen anytime soon. arguments, at least for another now, it's not impossible. but what it means is that certainly by the analysis of joan
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biskupic, we're looking king at a decision from the supreme court, perhaps in june and then if you can get a trial restarted, the calendar is extremely crowded. by the time donald trump becomes presumably the republican nominee. we should also note, erin, that the supreme court is also, we're still waiting to hear from them on the 14th amendment challenge in colorado right the ruling by the colorado supreme court. so we widely, everyone expects that donald trump will win that case. so at this point, we should point out also that the supreme court had the option. erin to hear this case if they wanted to take this up when jack smith went to them in december, they decided not to take it up then, but they have now decided that they do want to hear this case. >> and that mean that putting the beginning timestamp on this of december, that you're now looking at arguments not being made until april and a decision in june pointed to joan's analysis that is stunning. six month delay. if you look at
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just at the bottom line of it. >> all right. evan, thank you very much. as evan gets more, we're gonna go to him. i do want to go to ty cobb now, former trump white house lawyer. ty. look, they could have said let the lower court ruling stand. it was unanimous. it was three justices. they took three weeks to say that they're not going to do that. they're actually going to hear this case and decide on the merits. evan laying out that calendar that they could have made that decision in december. this puts a possible you know, decision in june. >> is there any way to >> see this other than as a win for trump in his delay strategy >> well, i think it's i think it's certainly favorable to trump, whether it's a win. i mean, trump appealed as soon as he could now, it's the issue of would the supreme court take it always haunted everybody and, you know, it was they had to balance two things the
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interest that the dc circuit identified and getting that case to trial, and whether the opinion from the dc circuit was adequate from the supreme court's view on the issues that they've now asked to be briefed. and i think that i think probably the most important signal they gave us as to why they granted cert is in the, in the question presented that you read, is the phrase, to wha and if so, to what extent does a former president enjoy immunity? yeah. >> exactly. and i think that's where the dc court of appeals opinion is a little bit light not because of any air that they made, but that they basically concluded rightfully so that the allegations in the indictment were way outside of wherever the line is and they didn't draw a clear line. i think it's understandable for supreme court for our supreme court case of first impression involving not a but deep
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foundational principle of the constitution, which is the separation of powers would, would want to take take a shot at trying to draw that line if they can before a former president is tried however, i'm disappointed, i think would have been possible for them to let that case let that opinion stand and we could have gone to trial in advance of the election, which i do think would have been in the interest of the country. but i do think this makes a trial before for the election unlikely. >> so i guess that's why i wanted to ask you mean it appears to be that that's the bottom line that if you're not going to have oral arguments to the week of april 22, joan biskupic was saying that that would mean a possibly a verdict in june. i don't i don't know if you agree with that or not, but but your bottom line is that that would mean you would not get even if that happened and they rule that he is not immune, you would not have a verdict before election day that's yeah, that's my well,
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i mean, so there are some there are some that is an essence my view, but there are some variables there. i mean, there is. >> so the justice department policy that everybody talks about the so-called 60 day policy right now, doesn't really fly in this circumstance. so that's, that's, that's limited to issuing indictments and opening investigation. there's nothing about a trial in an already scheduled case. so it's conceivable that the case could be set for trial in september, could be set for trial on october, could be set for trial immediately after the election but i think that i think the likelihood is that it's not going to certain certainly in my view, it's not going to go to trial before the election. >> and just to be very clear on this tie it. if they set a date after the election and he wins, he is able to essentially ended that fourth, correct? that's correct. >> yeah. now, he lived so i mean, he may have to endure the trial. i actually i mean yeah,
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because you can't you won't have any powers until january 20, so he could he could he may be forced to endure a trial. >> i still think that's just unlikely. >> if he's if he's the nominee and we'll be back up to the supreme court on those issues when does when does the imposition of the criminal process becomes too great for president to endure as it only after he takes the office or immediately after he's elected. i think that would i think there are issues related to that though, i think would further delay the trial >> all right. ty, thank you very much. i appreciate it. my pleasure. erin, take care. thanks for having me. all right >> good to see you and karen friedman, agnifilo is with me, the former prosecutor who worked with special counsel jack smith and basil smikle chronic strategist. karen. you hear ty going through the analysis of what this appears to mean that you're not going to how do you even respond to
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this and what you see from the supreme court? >> i mean, look, jack smith predicted this possibility, which is why he tried to leap frog the dc circuit and go straight to the supreme court if you recall? yeah. >> yes. exactly. and he said, okay, this is an important issue and timing matters here because if this doesn't go before the election, it might not ever go if donald trump wins the presidency because he appoints the new attorney general who could dismiss the case. he will pardon himself and the thousand other he will call patriots who have been prosecuted and convicted for january 6. that includes people like enrique good tarrio and stewart rhodes. and the case will go away and in some ways, the supreme court knew that. and yet they sent it to the dc circuit, said, no, i want them to opine first. but now what they're saying is either they
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disagree or they changed them mind. i just don't understand why we had to go through this if we were going to go here to begin with because this really means no trial before the election. other than the manhattan da case was has been widely stated that is the least serious of the mall, but now it's really the only case that will likely go before the election. >> that's alvin bragg and the hush money payment to stormy daniels, karen, just a quick follow here to make a point, we won't ever know right. how the court voted on this. we know they needed a majority to decide to take the case up. but we have no we don't know if they had unanimity. we don't know if it was on i don't want to use the word party lines, but on liberal and conservative lines, we're not going to know that right? >> that's correct. we we don't know and we won't know but but at least five people on the court, at least five justices want to hear, want to hear this case and the timing though, of this is really makes it so that
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that case will not go before the election that's that's i think my opinion and many other people who i've spoken to since this came down, literally, i think two hours ago >> exactly. so basil, have you had time to process that? i mean, does this mean that democrats have to stop hoping on a trial and verdict that could eliminate trump even in the eyes of voters, right? who have said that a conviction could mean would massively change things up in terms of how they see trump. does this mean that democrats have to just essentially give that up >> well it does change the strategy, right? because i my concern had always been that as these trials continue, that it was going to be difficult for democrats. they help voters weed through the legal ease as we continue to talk about what, what, what's happening in the courts and how close we are to getting some kind of some kind of verdict or answer about how trump if at all, would be held
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accountable. so this just continues the timeframe where i should say it expands the timeframe in which democrats is still going to have to continue to talk about what's happening, why donald trump is under investigation. by the way of pointing out that all of the folks who heard adam schiff say this earlier, that all of the folks who actually stormed the capitol face justice or, if, or a good amount of them have already faced justice, it's the leadership, it's the people who are pulling this trains that have yet to face that justice. and i think that's an important point that democrats need to continue to hammer home. and i'll just make this quick point. i think i was on this very network, erin, in 2016 when the comey letter dropped i have a very healthy understanding of how important information when it comes out close to election can affect the outcome and so that's what's so concerning about this, that as has been said before, we could have had some
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kind of decision on this a lot earlier. if you are concerned that the supreme court is being political, this just gave you additional fuel for that concern. >> all right. thank you both very much. i appreciate it. next, we do have more breaking news and illinois judge, has just ruled to remove trump from the state's ballot that is a surprise move in the context of fall of this, we are live with the latest details on that next. plus today, hunter biden, just wrapping up his testimony behind closed doors, president's son grilled for more than six hours even though republicans admit that their efforts to impeach president biden are falling apart. and alexey navalny's wife warning her husband's memorial service could turn violent if putin tries to stop his supporters from showing up live to moscow tonight >> more real estate professionals list property produced with realtor.com than any other site. >> really >> really trust the number one
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insurrection ban to remove trump from the ballot >> of >> course, that 14th amendment case in colorado is in front of the supreme court as i speak, waiting for a decision, kaitlan polantz is outfront with more on this breaking news and kaitlan, the thing about illinois as worsening you're talking about a major decision on immunity from the supreme court. and out of left field comes as ruling from illinois. this is a surprise move. what is the illinois judge saying? >> it is, this is about donald trump and his ability to be on the ballot as a candidate because of what he did in the 2020 election. after that election. and on january 6 this judge in cook county county, illinois is writing quite clearly her decision here that the illinois state board of election, shall remove donald j. trump from the ballot for the general oh, primary election on march 19th, upcoming in a couple of weeks, or cause any votes cast for hi to be suppressed. now, there's some things in this decision today that are going to put that on hold initially. but erin, it's quite a clear decision and this decision from
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illinois, it hops on board of what the colorado supreme court has already done and said that case that now is up at the us supreme court where colorado was that state through the court system, looked at the evidence around january 6 and deemed donald trump to be an insurrectionist and someone ineligible to to be on the ballot for president. illinois says exactly the same thing here. >> okay, so now illinois coming, and as i said, in a surprise move saying this as this the broader question about the 14th amendment's in front of the supreme court so what does this mean for that what happens next? kaitlan? >> aaron, donald trump's team is going to need to move quickly to appeal that is the first thing that's laid out here. they have two days as according to this order to get everything paused, having him removed from the ballot are having votes in the march 19th primary not counted for him. so they got to go to the appeals court in illinois for two days. the state is going to continue to look at it and then >> so
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>> much is at stake at the us supreme court. they already are looking at what colorado did to remove him from the ballot, how that could also affect the third state that has removed trump from the ballot. maine that wasn't in a judicial proceeding. that was by the people who oversaw see the elections there. but the us supreme court is ultimately going to have to come down on is this something that states even can do in their primary elections and would someone like donald trump potentially qualify is the office of the presidency something that is applicable when you're looking at the insurrectionist clause of the us constitution. so all of that is at stake here in this decision. it's not on hold. hold waiting for the us supreme court to rule. so if they take a very long time and the illinois state courts say no, he can be removed from the ballot then that may be it. as far as their the primary goes, but there is going to be all eyes on the supreme court and what they do and how quickly they do it to erin. >> all right. thank you very much. kaitlan. i appreciate it.
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with all of this breaking developments. i want to go now to eric swalwell democratic congressman of course, from the state of california, a congressman this decision first here that just came out of illinois was completely unexpected. today. so now you've got three states banning trump from being on the ballot. the colorado cases in front of the supreme court, they have yet to make a decision are you surprised to hear this decision? from the judge in illinois >> knowing the facts of the case, erin and having been on the floor when donald trump incited and aimed the mob that pause the counting of the vote and led to the violence. i'm not surprised that a judge would find that he's disqualified because he committed insurrection, which of course the constitution says, if you you, that you can't be on the ballot. erin, i don't know if your viewers know this, but i was the only member who testified in the colorado case and i did that a little bit. collectively because i'm competitive and i
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want to beat donald trump. and the idea of maga. and i want to do that this november because i think doing that is the best just to reset. we can have for democracy. but a plain reading of the constitution suggests that if you commit insurrection and it seems pretty clear that he did, that we can't be on the ballot. and so i look forward to our supreme court resolving it. and however they decide i will accept that. and we'll move to november. >> so they're going to decide that. and there had been some congressman and obviously you as being on the dish sherry committee, as you say, testifying in the colorado case, the attorney yourself at some had thought that they would pair it to decisions that they would come out and maybe unanimously say that trump actually should be allowed to be on the ballot and put that to the voters. therefore, in colorado and at the same time say, you know what, we don't need to hear the immunity case? we're going to let those three judge's decision that trump is not immune from criminal prosecution stand and we're gonna let jack smith's case go ahead. >> they've not done that. >> right? they have they've chosen not to do that. they took the three weeks to make a
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decision in the immunity case, and now they're not hearing oral arguments till april 22. it appears very clear on the calendar that were being given that that means that there will not be a verdict in the january 6 case before election day. have you had a chance to process this? >> yes. and what this all tells me is that our system, our constitution, our rule of law, was not built for for a legal terrorist like donald trump. and he's a professional litigant. he has been a part of thousands of cases and he knows all of the tactics of delay he delay delay. and we're just not built to respond to someone who threatens our constitution, our democracy, our rule of law. but we have to accept whatever outcome, but that doesn't mean we're helpless to try and legislate and make sure in the future, we're more responsive. so if there's an issue around the 14th amendment and the process in place now we should anticipate that someone may come along and try and do this again and put a process that's
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better and put that process in place. adam schiff, my colleague on the judiciary committee >> yeah. go ahead. >> sorry. that might've been might've been something else that you were hearing, but i do want to ask you something else, congressman, and that is about where you spent your day today. i mean, there's so many development since here tonight, the breaking news, hunter biden, president biden sun emerged he had six hours of testifying behind closed doors, right? he was forced by republicans to sit for a deposition. this was all part part of the republican led efforts to impeach president biden. republicans are now admitting that that effort is not moving forward. but you were there today, you are behind the closed doors for those six hours. what did you learn? >> nothing new in fact, this is the end of the impeachment effort i saw the time of death today because they have nothing and i would be surprised if they brought this forward, but don't take that from me, erin. take that from someone who is in the room on the republican side darryl eissa described it as a big nothing it's time to fund the government fund
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ukraine, the needs in the middle east, and take on the issues at the border and what people really care about and what matter. but there's nothing new here. just a continuation of not accepting joe biden as the president and cruelly trying to go after a son. >> all right. thank you very much, congressman swalwell. i appreciate your time. >> no worries. thank you. >> thank you. >> next our breaking news coverage continues. a judge ruling that trump has to come up with the $454 million from a civil fraud trial trump was trying to avoid putting it out he says he does not have the money. more details on that. >> and biden's >> doctors tonight have come out and said he had a physical today and that the president is fit for duty. but there was no cognitive test why you'll hear what the white house is saying >> when to leave works all day. so i can keep working just 112 hours of uninterrupted pain relief >> i'll leave. >> who do take it for and for fast topical been the lead
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verdict in the trump org fraud trial, rejecting an appeal by trump today to only post $100 million trump arguing that it is quote, impossible to pay the full amount. >> in fact, trump's lawyers actually have gone >> into a court and the court filing and saying that trump could have to sell some of his properties to come up with the money well, keep in mind that he had said that he had liquid assets that exceed the $454 million. so this would seem to indicate he only had a quarter of what he said he had front. now, harry sandick, former assistant us attorney for the southern district of new york, and jonathan greenberg and investigative journalist for the washington post, who has covered trump's finances for years and says trump lied to him when he worked at forbes to get on the forbes 400 lists. so you were front on the frontlines of all of those allegations that he made about what he really had. all right. >> glad that both of you with me. so harry here he is admitting that he doesn't have what he says yet. >> yeah. he's in he's in some real trouble now, what the
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appeals court did today was to say, look, you're appealing the case. you'll get one day to have your day in court on the appeal. but in the meantime, you're going to have to comply with parts of the judgment. and one of the parts the judge said he was going to have to comply with what's the payment of the $454 million which is standard in the case like this, right? that you would have to do that. absolutely. you can either pay it or you can get a bond. and there are some issues with getting a bond, but you have to essentially put something up. you can't just say to the court, trust me, i'll be good for this money. that's just not how it works for him or for anyone. all right. so >> he's being treated just like everybody else that's right. so jonathan i know you're not surprised by the situation, probably the outcome here, you know, we had said he had liquid assets up to $600 million. now he says only 100 million so looking at the properties that he has and they say they may have to sell them. doral, bloomberg visit $305,000,000.40 wall street, nearly 300 mar-a-lago, nearly a quarter billion dollars. do you really think, jonathan, that trump
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will be forced to sell any of these properties? to come up with their money by the deadline next month. and i will point out, but a sale of a property like any of those in a month is that that is an unprecedented thing. >> yeah it is a fire sale and it is a fire sale is taking place with interest rates almost tripled. what they were three years ago. so a lot of the cash flow that forbes and others have estimated these properties are worth and turning up are based upon an assessment that is probably dated in a cash hello. that doesn't exist today. i do believe that he's going to be forced to come up with money, but my sense is erin is that he is going to push this too. he's going to make them make him do it. he his whole career has been a shell game of avoiding accountability and he is going to it's. going to be much harder for the courts to sell a hder for the courts to
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and coming up with this. i see him saying, how dare you make me do this. i'm not that i don't i don't operate like this and you can't make me and i'm going to appeal it and you're going to lose and you can't make me like a child basically refusing to. okay. >> which is, you know just harry to an explanation point on that that's incredible to hear, right? because this exactly strengthens describing it like a child. >> but this is reality. this is a court, this is the rule of law. this is how it works in this country. yes, it's possible that he can just be like, oh, well, it just doesn't apply to me, like me. >> i don't think that'll happen. one of three things i think will happen. one of them is what we were just discussing. he'll say, i'm not going to post the bond. in which case the attorney general will have to start a series of lawsuits to essentially really collect on the judgment by taking his properties, but that takes time and it tastes the leg effort. if you're the attorney general, that's not really what you want to do. you would rather him post the bond
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with a normal the way any normal corporation or person would. but the ban companies may not want to do that. they may if you him as a credit risk >> wow. so then what happens >> well, either he gets a bond or he pays the money himself, or the attorney general will levy against his property. the other possibility is there could be some small delay either from a court or the attorney general at that one, that delay won't take them to the end of the appeal, which could be months the way all right. >> so he plays a delay the delay game here. >> jonathan, you know what's interesting. you talk about trump's net worth and how he you say lied to you about it over the years, he actually called you in the famous john baron call, right when he falsely claimed that donald trump to own all of his father's assets that's it he was trying to inflate his network to make the forbes 400 lists. so that's the context of this conversation that you had this guy john baron, calls you. let me play it once you first name, then most have
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been. consolidated to mr. trump because you have down fred trump and i'd like to talk to you after record if i can just to make your thing easier, they won't become really who's donald trump? now and you can consolidate, i think last year somebody showed me the article and i get 200.200. and really it's been pretty well consolidated now for the most part 200.200 is 400, so i mean, i know everyone would know that's his voice. this is well before ai >> so you knew it was him. you knew that it was this was pretending i >> did not know no one has ever tried this before. nobody else ever gained us. no one would pose is there per person suggesting they're going to tell you what the truth was about there the relationship between them and who in fact, trump didn't have any of his father's assets until 12 years later when his father died. i mean, he literally had zero. he was worth less than $10 million
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when we put him up there at 400 million. >> he is >> he is he and i also want to say in 1980, 90 sent a letter to forbes that i thought was really interested in trying to inflate his net worth before he went bankrupt when he was actually banker saying he had $700 million in marketable securities. that's very similar to the the 400 million that he told the court in his deposition or 600 million, he claimed to have right now or believed he had in that case, that was money that flowed through his account for one week to finance in junk bonds, the taj mahal hotel. so he had an accountant literally write a letter about them like was there that at one week even though it was never there again. and so i think the 400 million everyone says, well, wait, i thought he had 400 million. he never had it to begin with. it was working capital for loans and stuff and fiction, but i do want to say that i do think letitia, james and the new york state court will take his hundred million dollars in cash. the first
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thing they will do is take all the liquid assets and because this is in receivership right now and carefully, he's not going to be able to funnel out. so they'll get that hundred million first and that will be the beginning of the i just wanted to say it's going to take time to collect and it's going to cause me tremendous ego collapse because he is probably not a billionaire and it's he's been avoiding the transparency around his fraud until now. and this will likely bring that about >> all right. thank you both very much. i appreciate it, jonathan, harry next we now have the results of president biden's a physical today, just coming out is dr. saying biden is healthy, active, robust, and fit for duty. but there is something that stands out to dr. reiner. he'll be next. plus leaked russian intelligence documents revealed. putin can resort to using a nuclear weapon just to make his navy quote, more effective. the reporter who broke this story will be
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>> lead with jake tapper, cnn marley for >> and we've got more breaking news tonight. this is just the kind of night it is. >> the white >> house releasing just now the results of president biden's physical exam. now the president's dr. wrote in a report that biden is quote, healthy, active, robust and continued to say that he is quote, fit for duty. noting that the president's gate remained stiff. again here i'm quoting, but has not worsened since last year, blaming that stiffness on quote, degenerative wear and tear of his spine. now, all of that is very clear. black and white and very clear but one thing that was not in there what was a cognitive test? the white house says the dr. decided biden did not need one outfront. now, dr. jonathan reiner, cnn medical analyst, who advised the white house medical team under president george w bush. so you've been in these situations before of how to handle this information, these physicals on their release you've looked at
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this report by the president's longtime dr. dr. by the name of kevin o'connor. i know you know him. well, what stands out to you, dr. reiner >> well, first of all, it's a incredibly comprehensive report. it involved about ten consultants it's the kind of massive evaluation that the white house has really good at doing. and overall, it speaks to the stability of the president compared to his evaluation last year. the one change is that he now is being treated for sleep apnea, very common disorder a lot of people know somebody who uses a machine at night to provide the sort of positive airway pressure to keep, you basically from waking up multiple times during the night and dr. o'connor reported that the president is now using that but obviously, the one element that is not in the report is sort of the much discussed cognitive exam. >> but >> i've known kevin, dr. o'connor for over 15 years and
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before he came to the white house, he was a delta force army dr. and he cannot be bullied. and i know kevin and if he doesn't feel like a cognitive exam is warranted, doesn't matter how many people yell in his ear. he will not he will not do that. >> the converse is also true. if he if he felt that a cognitive exam was warranted no number of political consultants screaming at him would dissuade him from doing it. so my strong suspicion is that he did not perform a cognitive exam because he did not believe the president needed it, which is exactly what they said. well, i mean, so you know, you got abc poll saying 86% of voters say he's too old to serve another term obviously, when you read through what was put out by this dr. it doesn't support that. >> i mean right. i mean, even with the gate acknowledging, yes. it's stiff, but it's not more stiffen. it has been given a reason for it right? >> and you are making it clear that you i believe, and trust
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this dr. when he says he didn't need a cognitive exam so do you do you think they should have just done one because of the political environment >> right? so there's a medical reason to do an exam and there's a political reason. the president's physician doesn't see him twice a year, like like i see a patient he sees them every single day. he position he positions himself every morning in a way that he can walk with the president and talked him for a few minutes. so that gives him a very sort of continuous evaluation of the president and dr. o'connor apparently felt there was absolutely no indication either either his own observation that's up from the president. but the other reason to do a cognitive exam, which has nothing to do with medicine is a political and maybe i would have done that just to quell the shouting and to basically just take that off the table. but kevin again, is sticking to the medicine. >> so he didn't do it >> i'm not sure i would have necessarily follow that path, but i respect him forced to
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sticking to his guns. >> all right. well, dr. reiner, i appreciate your time. thank you. it's great to see you thank you, erin. >> next leaked >> classified documents coming from russia. these are leaked documents and they tonight reveal what gives putin the okay to use a nuclear weapon. and the reasons are chilling there's a lot lower than people would've thought. reporter who broke the story is next, plus alexey navalny's wife with a message for putin tonight. let her husband's supporters pay their respects or risk violence were in moscow next meet the jennifer's gen x and y gen z, each planning their future for the chase mobile app. gen x is planning a summer in portugal with some help from jpmorgan wealth plan. that's got whiskers to unwind hi is working with a bank or to budget for her birthday. >> you only turn 30 once >> and gen z, her credits golden. hello, new apartment three jens getting a head with chase solution fins that grow
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weapons simply to stop, quote aggression as russia defines it. outfront. now the reporter who broke the story, max seddon, the moscow bureau chief for the financial times and max, i'm really glad to see you again. look, it's an alarming report at and you've seen these documents. so what more can you share about putin's threshold to use a tactical nuclear weapon? >> well so the way that russia defines the criteria which it might use nuclear weapons, that's either in response to being targeted or if the existence of the state is at threat and they've never really said what that means and what you see from these documents that though we managed to look at, is really that is terrifyingly low it. so basically if russia doesn't feel that they've won the first stage of any sort of conflict with major power than they might use tactical nuclear weapons to do what they call sober eyes or scare the adversary into stopping their, their attack on russia. so
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it's basically giving the bloody nose and the first stage of a conflict that might be enough and they've trained their, their military in some scenarios to potentially be ready for putin to give that order. >> so when you went through some of its scenarios that could trigger the use of nuclear weapons. you said something when invades russia, okay, fine but then there's other things you report on. again in these documents that you obtained that they could use nukes to quote, stop aggression or even in the instance max, you report to make russia's navy, quote, more effective? i mean, talk about a subjective thing and what appears to be an incredibly low bar >> well, the real, the real bar is either higher or lower than that because something that these documents make make and this is also something that's that russia doesn't hide the sole authority for ordering a nuclear you're starting with a smaller tactical nuclear weapon or larger strategic one that belongs to vladimir putin
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alone. and what we see is that he could order something at the low threshold that is described in the documents that we saw, but he could do that and even lower threshold or the higher threshold and the then an issue ever ever since the full-scale invasion of ukraine started two years ago, is that it's very hard to get into putin's head. we don't really know what, what he's thinking. and that has been something that has really given, given pause to western powers in arming ukraine because the worry is that with these thresholds that that putin could suddenly decide that a line has been crossed. and then it might be too late, right? >> that the absolute authority that he has, the absolute power max, in some senses, countries prepare for a lot of things that seem counterintuitive or might be surprising. and maybe this goes in that category, but nonetheless, i know the documents that you obtained shows scenarios of an invasion of russia by china. china
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obviously is a huge partner for russia right now and providing a lot of weaponry and support for putin's war in ukraine. but yet in the document, you see plans for what they would do if invaded by china. >> what do you read into that? >> well, i think i think we have to be clear that the these documents, they date from 2008 to 2014, and especially since siji and picked up in 2012, russia and china have become much, much closer. russia is abandoned. some of the skepticism on military side, there is some military cooperation is still, still comparatively little did it, but even if it's hard to picture a chinese invasion of russia right now, it's quite clear that you speak to experts who, who study the russian military and you compare these exercises to exercises that we know the russian military still does. they still view china as a threat? otherwise, they wouldn't store nuclear, nuclear weapons have have units in the far east trying just as recently as november, they had
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an exercise near and near the chinese border with missiles that can only hit china. you don't have to be a rocket scientists to work out what the threat they're training for. there's all right. well, >> max, thank you so much. i appreciate it. obviously, you staying up late and sharing that. i hope i want to read the full story is really incredible reporting. >> thanks. yeah >> thanks so much >> and also tonight, alexey navalny's funeral, it will be friday at a cemetery in moscow, according to his spokesperson now, yulia navalnaya, who has not shied away from the spotlight and the 12 days since her husband's death is warning that the memorial service could turn violent if police cracked down on attendees matthew chance is outfront tonight in moscow >> the full europe's parliament. the widow of alexey navalny is continuing his stan jean lawmakers to treat the kremlin as a criminal gang to investigate its financial dealings and punish the financier's employees you cannot hurt putin with nausea,
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resolution or another set of sanctions. that is no different from the previous ones. you cannot defeat him by thinking he's a man of principle who has morals and druze she is not like that. and alex, alex realize that a long time ago the kremlin is yet to comment on the remarks. but tonight russia's president, he's paying his last respects but not to alexey navalny. >> this the funeral of a loyal supreme court judge who passed away last week. navalny's team say the burial of the late opposite position leader will take place on friday amid a struggled to find a venue. >> and putin >> is unlikely to attend nor are his bereaved family yulia navalnaya has already been threatened with jail on
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pro-kremlin media. and even laying her husband to rest on friday. she told the eu parliaments may provoke a crackdown >> the funeral will take place the day after tomorrow and i'm not sure yet whether it will be peaceful or whether the police the arrest those who have come to say goodbye to my husband you who ready human rights groups say hundreds have been detained across russia at makeshift memorials set up after navalny's sudden death
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