much for the work that you did there to try to save lives and for taking the time out this morning to be with us a new hour of cnn news central begins now cnn breaking news >> here's the quote, the evidence and the president himself put his memory squarely at issue. that is what the now former special counsel, robert hur, is expected to say when he gets into the hot seat on capitol hill at the top of the hour. that is when this begins and lawmakers will be questioning her on his decision to not recommend charges against president biden over his handling of classified documents and her will also face questions about his decision to describe the president and his final report as an elderly man with a poor memory her also now learning exactly what biden said when that special counsel, bob hur, interviewed him, including a section in which the president appeared to forget what year

his son passed away. cnn's evan perez, he read that transcript. he's joining us now. evan talked to us more about what you saw on this transcript and what it shows >> you know, that that episode that interaction between rob hur and the president is the one one that really made all the headlines from that 388 page report. there was released a few weeks ago and what we got to see from looking at this transcript is a bit of the context of how this came to be. and so what we know is that there was a discussion between the president and the interview you're worried about where he kept papers that he was working on when he left the vice presidency. and as he was trying to melt and he was mulling his future, including any political future sure and he is the one that brings up. he says a timeframe is 2,017.20, 18. and then i'll read you just a part of what he says. he says, remember, in this timeframe, my son is

either deployed or die. again, he's the one that brings up beau biden, and then he says, what must didn't bow die. oh god may 30th. and then someone, a multiple people in the room remind him that it was actually in 2015 that beau biden, his son died. again, it's one of those interactions that really stands out because we know the death of jimo biden was something that is of immense importance to the president. >> it's a >> big part of what has gone on in the last two years. and the idea that he didn't remember, it's something that really stood out. but the context i think really shows you a little bit more about that interaction. we also have another interaction where the president is being asked about how materials get moved, or really just a part of that transcript, it says, okay. do you rob hur as the president, you have many idea where this material would have been before it got moved into the garage. this is his garage at his wilmington home. the president says, whatever it was from 2013

and when did i stop being vice president? a white house lawyer in the room says 2017. and you heard president biden says, i was vice president. so it must have been it must have come from vice president stuff. that's all i can think of. what do you see repeatedly, obviously is the president. he's doesn't pay a lot of detail attention to detail about who handles these classified documents, these papers he knows he has aides who handle them. he describes a process whereby if he we wanted to see something, he would ask for it to be brought to him. he says he didn't pack any of these boxes. that got moved from the vice presidential residence to his to his homes after he left the left office. so i think that's going to play a big role of today, which is the idea of his memory and what that means for joe biden, of course, crepe work. >> evan, there on capitol hill, no charges were recommended with the biden's handling of

classified documents. what that means now as he runs for re-election, all of this the report and this testimony today first let's see what happens with this testimony today. it's good to see you, evan. thank you. john. all right. with us now is ian sams a spokesperson for the white house counsel's office. ian, thank you so much for being with us. we have robert hur's prepared opening statement in here, ended. he says, quote, we have identified evidence that the president willfully retaining classified materials after the end of his vice presidency when he was private citizen, the evidence included an audio recorded conversation during which mr. biden told his ghostwriter he had just found all the classified stuff downstairs when mr. biden said this, he was a private citizen speaking to his ghostwriter and his private rental home in virginia. we also identified another recorded conversation during which mr. biden ready? classified information allowed to as ghostwriter. we did not, however, identify evidence that rose to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. i read all of that because it included the issue where robert hur said we had evidenced the

president willfully retain documents, but it did not rise beyond a reasonable doubt. do you have the issue with that characterization >> yeah. i mean, i think it lays bare pretty clearly that the result of this 15 month investigation that was led by a trump appointee, prosecutor who was named special counsel, found that there was no case here. i think that some of those that language that you just laid out is a little bit missiles leading. in fact, later in the report, 200 pages and not on page two, but 200 pages and he says very clearly that the evidence does not fully support the idea that he willfully retained classified documents when it comes to sharing information with others, he says hundreds of pages into the report that the evidence does not support that the president knew that he was even telling him classified information. and so i think that what's lost in the shuffle of all this is that it's the evidence in the facts that were accumulated over a 15-month

investigation, comprehensive, very long, very intrusive actually refuted these theories that the special counsel explored and found very plainly that there was not a case to be made here >> what the special counsel explicitly says is the evidence did not rise the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. he says because the evidence fell short of that standard, i declined to recommend criminal charges it's against mr. biden. you were quoting from the actual 400 page report which i tried to react much of it as i could just go and just take your i was just quoting from the opening statement that he's going to deliver to congress today, it was at this and i think it's important to, i just have it i just have it written down right here actually, on page 215, the report says quote, there is in fact a shortage of evidence on these points. so i think that he's going to have to reconcile those two things. and that's up to him to do. but the report is very clear that the evidence and the facts that were gathered over 15 months show that there is no case

here. and what people are going to see in the transcript that now i heard evan talking about having access to and i believe the justice department has produced to congress this morning the transcript is going to show that the president had very clear and detailed testimony to them the special counsel, that he did not know he had these, that he was unaware. we've said that from the very beginning of this case that as soon as these documents were discovered, we fully cooperated with the justice department to ensure that they were returned. and why did we do that? we did that because the president takes classified information seriously he testified they're the special counsel, for example, that if he had ever found anything, he would have given it back. and that's proven out, by the way, this case has played out in exactly how he handled this from the very beginning by cooperating and making sure that anything was given back in the initial report, the special counsel made absolutely clear how cooperative the president and the white house has been enlisted that as a reason or a differentiating factor between the decision not to charge trump or biden and the decision to charge former president donald trump obviously, robert

hur's inclusion of issues surrounding president binds memory has been a major issue. one that you have not i've been pleased with. i want to read you again. this is from the opening statement that he's going to deliver to congress. her will see the evidence and the president himself put his memory squarely at issue we interviewed the president and asked him about his recorded statement. i just found all the classified stuff downstairs. he told us he did not remember saying that to his gun ghost writer. he also didn't remember finding any classified material in his home after his vice presidency, and he didn't remember anything about how classified documents about afghanistan made it their way into the garage? again, part of his opening statement, what issue do you have with that? sure. >> yeah. well, i guess it's not that surprising that he might not remember something that he testified repeatedly. he didn't know he had he didn't intentionally take and that he relied on staff members like most principals do, especially someone at the level of the vice president, he relied on staff to pack and move his papers in boxes i think also on this issue of the memory, it's been selectively chopped up and

edited and sent around because of the confusing way that that report was written. but also in that report. and again, i wrote this down later in the report, he says explicitly, quote, we expect the evidence of mr. biden's state of mind to be compelling. he said that he it provided, quote, clear and forceful testimony. these are things that he says in the report and in the transcript. he says, uh, one point, he praises the president's quote, photographic memory. and so there's a little bit of a distinction here and a little bit of picking and choosing which issues to criticize the president's memory on. but i think that at the end of the day, it's because the facts and evidence don't support this case. nothing else. nothing about the president's testimony. it's a fact of the facts and evidence over 15 months of investigating prove that there is no case here. >> it is notable that in his opening statement, which is a little bit over four pages long, robert hur spends almost two pages talking about the issue of the president's memory and why he did include that. i have not seen the transcript of the president's

testimony. you said it's it's been released by the justice department to congress. so perhaps we all will see some of it. evan perez has seen some of it. his reporting this morning on the issue. and again, this is something that president biden himself took issue within the original report, bringing up his memory of the death of his son, beau. this is a quote from evan's reporting. the transcript shows that the president brought brought up his son amid a broader discussion about his handling of sensitive documents as he mold his future after leaving public office after five decades, asked for it, kept papers that he was working on. biden began a story framing the context as the 2017, 2018 era, the president brought up the son beau, who he said it encouraged him to remain politically we engage, remember in this timeframe, my son is either deployed or is dying. biden said, according to the transcript, the president brought up his son's death and you remember the month and day, what month did bow die? oh god, may 30. several people in the room interjected to remind him that his son died in 2015, not the 2017 to 2018 timeframe. again, so this is more context about how the death of his son

ever became an issue. it wasn't as if i'm not mistaken. he wasn't asked about the death of his son by the special counsel, was he? >> the president was in fact asked about his work on his book, about his son's passing, about his work after his vice presidency on the biden cancer initiative, something that was so deeply moved motivated by beau's illness and passing. these are deeply personal and emotional issues for the president and he's talked openly about those to the american people for years, about how he overcame that grief and how he worked through it, and how he hoped to find purpose beyond this grief. and that was what he was being asked about. and so anybody who has even a familiarity with the president understands the personal nature of this and that he would talk about his son, beau, and the impact that he had on the work that he was pursuing after his vice presidency on the book and on the cancer world or can i think that the american people can see clearly that the president doesn't need a reminder as to when his son died. he says right there, may 30th, this is something that the president

carries with him every single day. the memory of losing his son families across this country understand the power of loss and grief and the way that, that impact someone. and this is a president he was taken that loss and grief and turned it into purpose. and i think it just goes to show again how outrageous it was for that to even be included in this report. and don't take just my word for it. former attorney general, former deputy attorney general former justice department prosecutors, senior officials, all came out in the aftermath of this report and said this is totally inappropriate. you can make the point without talking about that. so it just shows how outrageous it was for that to be included in the final report. >> it's ams. i know you have a busy day. we appreciate you taking some of your time out of it to spend with us. thank you >> thanks, john >> sir. >> alright. coming up a audit highlights the results of an faa investigation and could have reduction of boeing 737 max if airplanes plus a cnn exclusive, a former longtime trump staff are known only as trump employee number five in

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opening statement where we know it will say i'll have it here. he's going to say i called it like i saw it. cnn senior legal analyst, elie honig is joining us now. first of all, what do we need to know about robert hur? he is now in the capacity of a regular guy, but he was the special counsel, robert hur has kept a very low profile throughout this investigation, but today, like it or not, spotlights going to be on him a couple of important things to know about robert hur. he was a longtime federal prosecutor. he was a trial prosecutor in maryland that he went over to headquarters in dc. he was named us this attorney. he was nominated by donald trump. he was confirmed in 2018. important to note, he was confirmed by unanimous voice vote in the senate. there was no opposition to him from republicans or democrats. and then merrick garland appointed him as special counsel about a year ago in january of 2023. now, let's just talk about what that means that he came became special counsel that means merrick garland gave robert hur the powers of any doj federal prosecutor. lets

special counsel has a bit more independence. the regulation say he's not subject to the day-to-day supervision of the ag and the other important feature is the special counsel at the end of his case has to write a report and that's the report that robert hur wrote. and that's a report that you're going to see a lot of focus on today. >> and also one right that merrick garland reviewed before it went out. >> and he did not touch it. any merrick garland turned it over to congress and hence to the american pollyanna that, alright, can you take us through some of the key and important points of the written report by her that congress has gone over and that we've all yes to tackle reflected in the opening statement that we just received first and most importantly, no criminal charges. robert hur says, criminal charges for retaining sensitive information are not necessary. here. however, robert hur also says in his report that the investigation uncovered evidence that president biden willfully retained and disclosed classified material after his vice presidency. now, you may be wondering, well, how could there be no charges, but

uncovered evidence in the answer is, there's a lot of room between charges must be brought and no evidence whatsoever. and rob, what robert hur seems to be trying to say, there was evidence, some evidence, but not enough to charge him with a crime that's an important distinction in the report. robert hur showed us photos of where some of these documents were stored in joe biden's home and office. and of course, the single phrase that may be gained the most attention is robert hur's characterization that president biden would present himself as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory that's become a very controversial phrase. did it need he to be included? is it relevant? robert hur says it's relevant to assessing his mental state, which is part of the legal calculation here. >> he is going to be on the hot seat in front of congress. you have democrats and republicans coming for, what should we expect to hear in the form of questions? yeah. to her. so we >> are in the house judiciary committee chaired by jim jordan. jim jordan will be running the show today. the ranking member for democrats is jerry. now there, there are 25 republicans on this committee,

19 democrats. i did the math that's 44. they get five-minutes age, so you're looking at several hours also worth noting, they will allow the oversight chair and ranking committee, james comer and jamie raskin, also to speak today. so this is going to be along here. we're going to hear from some big names. matt gates. will you know, try to create fireworks for republicans? we'll hear from adam schiff on the democratic side. they're going to ping pong back and forth for five, five-minutes h. now the key areas of focus, first of all, of course, democrats, we just heard headline. yeah, i mean, that is a big headline. we just heard the white house spokesperson stress no criminal charges, but again, not necessarily a full exoneration. you will hear comparisons to the trump case, robert hur says, in his piece that trump's conduct was worse than biden's. and finally, of course, there will be much about joe biden's age and memory. there will be a lot about all of this as we will hear on capitol hill, and we are waiting just a few minutes and it's from now we are expecting to see her walking down that big hall, straight big to the committee rooms elie

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acosta, up on capitol hill, and i'm wolf blitzer here in washington, a gym, a very consequential day for president biden and for the presidential race. >> that's right, wolf. and we should note in moments, robert hur will face congress as a private citizen, having finished his work with the department of justice, and he just arrived so you're seeing some pictures right there on your screen up on capitol hill. he will argue that he quote, did not disparage the president on fairly. and quote, by calling him in quote, elderly man with a poor memory that political bombshell was dropped in hers damning report that concluded biden did ms handle some classified information? her of course, decided not to pursue charges that enraged republicans who wanted to see the president indicted in the case, and democrats accused her of taking cheap shots at the president's age and argue the biden case was never as syria yes, that's the allegations against donald trump, who was charged over his handling of classified documents. cnn's paula reid and kasie hunt are

here with me up on capitol hill morning, to you guys. but first, let me start with cnn senior justice correspondent evan perez. evan, you just got access to transcripts of president biden's age interview with investigators. i was just flipping through some of this. this is very, very interesting. what did it reveal >> well, jim, i knew what other things completely come away from these obviously the president repeatedly says that he doesn't remember how boxes of documents ended up at his home in delaware and his rented home in verse anya or his private office in in a university of pennsylvania here in washington he said he left it to aides to be able to handle some of these things. but obviously, the big the big thing that stood out from the report, the robb her report, at least a few weeks ago, was a mentioned that he didn't seem to remember what year his son, beau biden died. obviously, that's a big part of the biography of president biden. and i'll read you just a part of what the how that

interaction went to provide the context of it's part. of a discussion of how did he keep track of documents that he was using this as at the time that he had left the vice presidency and joe biden said as you know, it puts the context of 2017, 2018, and then he says, remember, in this timeframe, my son is either deployed or is done hi, again, he's the one that brings up beau biden in this context. and then he says, what month did the bode died? oh god, may 30th. and then someone in the room and several people in from say, 2015 and why it comes across, there is obviously he doesn't he doesn't say today, but he is the one that brings it up and he's also the one on that that says may 30th and as you look through this this transcript, again repeatedly, he says he doesn't know how things got to wear here. they were the fbi found them when they did the searches, he says he does another interaction with rob hur where rob hur says, but did you remember how these

materials got into this box? and. then how that box got into the garage. and joe biden says, no, i don't remember how it got. i don't remember how a beat up box got in the garage. the tone of the interview. jim, i should make clear. again, this is from the written transcript is generally very genial right there and jokes a lot. this laughter in the room, it doesn't really come across as adversarial. and i think that's one of the reasons why there was some surprised by the people around the president at what they saw in the report >> yeah. i mean, we weren't in the room. we don't have audio or video, just a transcript, but it doesn't sound like the way it was initially portray that the president has flat-out blanked on the day that is son died. i mean, i think that that's kind of interesting. and the department of justice, evan has not distanced itself from hers report, including the language that upset the white house. what does that say to you? >> well, look, and i think that's a very, very clear message you're hearing this

report was reviewed by the attorney general. it was reviewed by the time up career people in the justice department, and they clearly defended it when the president's lawyers wrote to dispute some of it and, you know, one of the things that's interesting to me he is going to, you've seen a parade of cabinet officials, people around the president, democrats come out and talk about their interactions with joe biden saying he's very new, said he's very in command, he's on top of things. we haven't seen anything like that from merrick garland, the attorney general, and i doubt you will. it's just not his style, but i think people around the president i didn't have noticed that and i think that the fact that again the justice department has not distance itself from this report, i think speaks loud volumes that they stand by the work of rob hur >> alright, evan perez, thank you very much. we know you'll be in the hearing room. you'll get some of the flavor from inside there. it'll be very interesting do you see all of this plays out, evan, thanks so much and paula, in case you're both of them out here on the